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Why do the "aspect" spells and some of the "form" or "body" spells have the polymorph subtype, when they don't seem to meet the burden or utilize the rules inherent to that subtype?

Specific Spells and Some Evidence:
The polymorph subschool says "each polymorph spell allows you to assume the form of a creature of a specific type", "your base speed changes to match that of the form you assume", and "you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form [...], as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form", among other relevant things.

The following spells were printed with the polymorph subtype, despite not appearing to use its rules or align with its purpose:

Animal Aspect (Ultimate Combat, pg.222)
This spell says "your base form is largely unchanged [...], but some of your body parts are altered". You don't actually transform into any of the listed animals, which fails to meet the polymorph burden, and if you try to apply the polymorph rules to this spell, it just becomes a mess (no base speed to adopt, etc.).

Animal Aspect, Greater (Ultimate Combat, pg.223)
This functions the same way as above.

Aspect of the Bear (Advanced Player's Guide, pg.203)
Again, "you take on an aspect of a bear" (emphasis mine), but you don't actually take the form of one.

Aspect of the Falcon (Advanced Player's Guide, pg.203)
This functions the same way as above.

Aspect of the Stag (Advanced Player's Guide, pg.203)
This functions the same way as above.

Aspect of the Wolf (Advanced Player's Guide, pg.204)
This functions the same way as above.

Dust Form (Ultimate Combat, pg.228)
This says "upon casting this spell, you keep your relative form", which again fails to meet polymorph's burden. Further, fiery body (Advanced Player's Guide, pg.221), ice body (Ultimate Magic, pg.224), and iron body (Core Rulebook, pg.302) work in much the same way, but (correctly, I believe) don't have the subtype.

Frightful Aspect (Ultimate Combat, pg.230)
I'm on the fence about this one. It says "you become a larger, awful version of yourself," but seems compatible with polymorph rules even if it doesn't totally seem like a polymorph spell.

Paragon Surge (Advanced Race Guide, pg.48)
This spell says "you surge with ancestral power, temporarily embodying all the strengths of both elvenkind and humankind simultaneously, and transforming into a paragon of both races", which doesn't really sound anything like taking the form of a creature of a particular type, and then immediately goes on to explain that this spell doesn't really use any of the polymorph rules.

Shadow Body (Occult Adventures, pg.186)
This appears to function the same way as dust form, above, but is less clear about it. Does this actually turn you into a shadow, as the creature? If so, maybe it is a polymorph spell.

Sonic Form (Advanced Class Guide, pg.193)
This functions the same way as dust form, above.

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Question: Do alternate classes count as their parent classes for archetypes and prerequisites?

In most cases it doesn't matter because there are few if any feats with specific prerequisites that you have levels in cavalier, paladin, or rogue, and most alternate classes are different enough from their parent classes that archetypes don't stack with them anyway. But there are a few rogue archetypes that could be applied to a ninja, there's equipment that cares about specific classes, and honestly it's just an interesting question to know the answer to. I always assumed they did count as their parent classes, but then is the reverse true? Could samurai archetypes be taken by cavaliers, etc.? Ultimate Combat's rules for alternate classes are silent on this issue.

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Question: If a limb has multiple natural attacks associated with it, does it get to use each of those attacks during a full attack or does it have to choose between them?

Between templates, spells, traits, feats, etc., it's possible to get multiple natural attacks each associated with a single limb (for instance, two claws and two slams on a creature with two arms). There's some rules text in the Bestiary listing on natural weapons that says you can't use a claw attack if you're holding a weapon with that hand, which implies that you also wouldn't be able to double-dip claw and slam. What about gore and bite? Talon and hoof? Or is that rule unique to combining natural and manufactured weapons? After all, it's possible to attack more than once with a single manufactured weapon during a full-attack.

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Question: Is natural armour its own type of bonus?

I ask because it always seemed to me that the answer was "yes", but recently I found that both a rules-knowledgeable friend and the developers of Hero Lab believe the answer is "no". The terminology is fairly inconsistent, with many texts stating "+X bonus to natural armour" and others stating "+X natural armour bonus to AC".

The Hero Lab developers and my friend both believe that natural armour is some sort of abstract component of a character's AC that is usually modified in the form of untyped bonuses, and sometimes enhancement bonuses. My own understanding was that enhancement bonuses are a weird type of bonus that sometimes modify other types of bonuses. Why this matters? Because if I'm wrong, then most natural armour bonuses stack with one another. That isn't likely to come up very often, but it seems worth knowing. is pretty clear in its glossary that natural armour is a type of bonus and that it doesn't stack with itself, but there's no citation in that glossary and I honestly haven't been able to find much to support either position in any rulebook, let alone the Core Rulebook. The only thing I found was on page 134 of Ultimate Magic where natural armour appears on the bonus types chart. Enhancement also appears on that chart, though, and enhancement bonuses are weird, so the chart in and of itself doesn't preclude natural armour also being weird, I guess.

Any thoughts?

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I had a PFS character number that had been run through We Be Goblins and Silverhex Chronicles with pregens and was a single xp away from 2nd level. I decided to put together an earth kineticist with an eye toward melee combat, and with the ultimate goal of using butterfly's sting and two-weapon fighting to pass crits from a keen rapier to my kinetic blade. Here's my build at 1st level:

CG Human Kineticist (earth) 1
Init +5; Senses Perception -2
AC 17, touch 13, flat-footed 14 (+4 armour, +3 Dex)
hp 13 (1d8+5)
Fort +6, Ref +5, Will -2
Speed 30 ft.
Melee kinetic blade +3 (1d6+5) or MW rapier +4 (1d6+1; 18-20/x2)
Ranged earth blast +3 (1d6+5)
Special Attacks earth blast, kinetic blade
Str 12, Dex 16, Con 19, Int 13, Wis 7, Cha 7
Base Atk +0; CMB +1; CMD 14
Feats Combat Expertise, Weapon Finesse
Traits Heirloom Weapon (proficiency), Reactionary
Skills Climb +3, Knowledge (dungeoneering) +5, Stealth +6
Languages Common, Terran
SQ burn
Gear MW chain shirt, MW rapier

Party Composition arcanist 1, medium 4, occultist 1, occultist 1, psychic 1

Combat 1:
Our first combat was against two first-level druids, their dire rat animal companions, and two other dire rats. Our medium sent one or two dancing lights creatures around the corner and the dire rats attacked, while the rest of us readied actions to do various ranged attacks or cast spells against enemies when they entered our various ranges. The rats came around the corner, followed by the druids. I missed with my blast, but on the two subsequent turns I proceeded to use a move action to lessen my burn, five-foot step into melee range, spend a burn to use kinetic blade, and then successfully hit with my rock sword. I am at +3 to hit here, which is pretty abysmal but we were up against AC 13 or 14 across the board, and being bad at hitting is a 1st level tradition. I could have hit more reliably for less damage with my rapier and saved myself the hit points, but I really wanted to hit them hard. With rocks. Up close. In their faces.

Combat 2:
Before our second combat, I scouted ahead since I had a pretty decent Stealth modifier. Unfortunately, it wasn't decent enough and a small earth elemental put me down with a single crit. Luckily for me, I had a 19 Con and didn't outright die from the 22 damage. I spent the rest of the fight trying to stabilize while ruing the bitter irony of being a geokineticist bested by an earth elemental.

Combat 3:
Our third combat was against a ghast, bottlenecked in a hallway. I had no way to get into melee range, so I spent every round of the fight trying to shoot into melee through cover. It's hard to hit AC 18 with a -5 to hit. This combat was really boring, but ranged combat is my back-up and I don't have any of the go-to ranged feats like Point-Blank Shot or Precise Shot which is my own fault.

Combat 4:
Our final combat was against a derro and two mites. This was basically over before it began as one of our occultists had a derro-bane longbow. I didn't contribute meaningfully.

1) [These thoughts have been redacted, since my reading comprehension is apparently awful, and I playtested two levels overpaying for the core ability of my build.]
2) I had to spend one of my bonus languages from Int on learning Terran. (: All of my class abilities revolve around earth. I feel like knowing the language should come free with the commitment.

See you at 2nd level!

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In the Advanced Class Guide, the Extra Hex feat has been updated to have the following wording (emphasis mine):

Extra Hex wrote:
You gain one additional hex. You must meet the prerequisites for this hex. If you are a shaman, it must be a hex granted by your spirit rather than one from a wandering spirit.

By RAW, that would rule out taking one of the non-spirit-specific hexes available to all shamans, but it reads like it's only meant to rule out hexes from wandering spirits. FAQ?

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How does the naga shape ability granted by the naga aspirant druid archetype (pg.196 of the Advanced Race Guide) "work like and replace wild shape", given that it says wild shape is "gained at 4th level, as normal"?

The only reading I can arrive at that seems like a fair trade in power level without completely gimping the ability is that naga shape replaces the forms a druid would normally have available through wild shape from 6th level onward, but continues to progress the duration and number of times per day the druid can change form. Is that correct?

Advanced Race Guide wrote:

Naga Shape

At 6th level, the naga aspirant can use her wild shape ability (gained at 4th level, as normal) to assume the form of a true naga. This effect functions in a similar manner to a shapechange spell with the following exception. The druid's true naga form is unique, representing her personal evolution. When taking naga form, the nagaji's body transforms into that of a large serpent, though she keeps her own head. The naga aspirant loses her limbs and her size increases by one category, granting her a +4 size bonus to Strength and Constitution, a –2 penalty to Dexterity, and a +2 enhancement bonus to her natural armor bonus. She gains a +10 enhancement bonus to land speed and a bite attack that deals 1d6 points of damage. She can cast verbal spells in this form, but cannot cast spells with other components without metamagic or feats such as Natural Spell.

This ability otherwise works like and replaces wild shape.

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If I have both Anaconda's Coils (pg.208 of Ultimate Equipment) and Final Embrace (pg.101 of Ultimate Combat), both of which are granting me constrict, do I get to use both constrict abilities every time I succeed at a grapple check? Or do they overlap, giving me only the version with the better damage?

For that matter, Anaconda's Coils says the constrict ability it grants deals 1d6 damage (with no mention of size category). If I'm wearing this belt and I grow by a size category, does my constrict damage scale with size or does it remain 1d6 as the belt specifies?

Ultimate Equipment wrote:

Anaconda's Coils

This snakeskin belt’s buckle is shaped like a serpent’s head.

The wearer gains a +2 enhancement bonus to Strength and a +2 competence bonus on grapple combat maneuver checks. Treat the enhancement bonus to Strength as temporary ability bonus for the first 24 hours the belt is worn. In addition, the belt grants the wearer the constrict ability for 1d6 points of damage plus the wearer’s Strength modifier.

Ultimate Combat wrote:

Final Embrace

Prerequisite: Str 13, Int 3; naga, serpentfolk, or creature that has the constrict special attack; base attack bonus +3.

You gain the constrict and grab special attacks. Your constrict attack deals damage equal to your unarmed strike or primary natural weapon melee attack. Further, you can grab and constrict opponents up to your size.

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The hexcrafter archetype of magus found on pg. 48 of Ultimate Magic opens up a special magus arcana called Accursed Strike:

Ultimate Magic wrote:
A hexcrafter magus who can cast bestow curse, major curse, or any spell with the curse descriptor can deliver these prepared spells using the spellstrike ability, even if the spells are not touch attack spells.

Most spells with the curse descriptor happen to be touch spells, so it's easy enough to figure out how those work with spellstrike. However, there are a few good curses out there that aren't touch spells and it's a lot less clear to me how those work.

Would they need to be cast in one round and then delivered in the next, since they aren't touch spells and thus don't normally get a free touch to deliver?

The wording for spellstrike is tricky, as it assumes it's only being used to deliver touch spells. The only other way to "trick" spellstrike into using other spells that I'm aware of (the Close Range arcana) is clear that it allows you to use ranged touch spells as melee touch spells, so it doesn't create these kinds of complications.

Any thoughts?

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On page 196 of the Advanced Race Guide is a nagaji racial druid archetype called the naga aspirant. It has an ability called Naga Shape, that reads as follows:

Advanced Race Guide wrote:

At 6th level, the naga aspirant can use her wild shape ability (gained at 4th level, as normal) to assume the form of a true naga. This effect functions in a similar manner to a shapechange spell with the following exception. The druid's true naga form is unique, representing her personal evolution. When taking naga form, the nagaji's body transforms into that of a large serpent, though she keeps her own head. The naga aspirant loses her limbs and her size increases by one category, granting her a +4 size bonus to Strength and Constitution, a –2 penalty to Dexterity, and a +2 enhancement bonus to her natural armor bonus. She gains a +10 enhancement bonus to land speed and a bite attack that deals 1d6 points of damage. She can cast verbal spells in this form, but cannot cast spells with other components without metamagic or feats such as Natural Spell.

This ability otherwise works like and replaces wild shape.

My naga aspirant just got to 6th level and I need to have a handle on all of this, but this description raises a number of questions.


1) Naga Shape states that the druid "can use her wild shape ability (gained at 4th level, as normal)", but goes on to say "this ability otherwise works like and replaces wild shape". Does using this ability consume usages of Wild Shape?

2) If Wild Shape is gained as normal at 4th, but this "otherwise replaces" it at 6th, does that mean the final result of this ability is Wild Shape once per day that can only be used as beast shape I (to transform into a Small or Medium animal) or Naga Shape? Or does it only replace the 6th level form, basically skipping over beast shape II and elemental body I but eventually giving more usages of Wild Shape per day and the other more advanced forms?

3) Naga Shape states both that it works like shapechange and that it works like Wild Shape, and then stipulates a number of exceptions. It never specifies which aspects it borrows from Wild Shape and which it borrows from shapechange (if any). Shapechange lasts for 10 minutes/level and allows you to change forms as a free action during that duration. Wild Shape lasts for 1 hour/level and allows you to change form as a standard action that doesn't provoke. Neither allows you to take the form of an aberration or stipulates what benefits you gain from doing so. My assumption is that Naga Shape's additional text specifies all the known benefits of the ability, but what's its duration? Does shapechange actually have anything to do with the ability?

4) Nagaji have a number of racial traits (armoured scales, resistant, serpent's sense, and low-light vision) that would seem to depend on original form. The flavour of this ability is such that it represents an evolution of the druid, though, so it seems strange to lose these abilities. How does this work?

5) Aberration is not among the types listed in the polymorph rules as causing your gear to meld into your form. Does this mean the naga aspirant's armour continues to function without the wild property? What about rings and weapons since the druid loses his or her arms?

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My girlfriend and I are going to be playing in a new home game soon, and she got the notion at some point that she'd like to try playing some sort of parasite race. She was inspired by the trill from Star Trek, but after thinking it over from a Pathfinder mechanics standpoint we settled on a concept closer to the parasites from the season one Next Generation episode "Conspiracy". I cleared the basics with the GM and put together a first draft of the racial traits, but I figured I'd bring this to the internet to see if anyone had any thoughts on its balance or could see any obvious exploitable loopholes. We haven't chosen a name for the race yet, so they're somewhat awkwardly just referred to as "parasites" in this write-up.

Player Race Parasite:
+2 Wisdom, -2 Charisma, -6 Strength, -6 Dexterity, -4 Constitution: Parasites are intuitive and aware, but have abrasive personalities and frail, clumsy bodies not intended for survival without a host.

Aberration: Parasites are aberrations.

Fine: Parasites are Fine creatures and gain a +8 size bonus to their AC, a +8 size bonus on attack rolls, a -8 penalty to their Combat Maneuver Bonus and Combat Maneuver Defense, and a +16 bonus on Stealth checks.

Slow Speed: Parasites have a base speed of 20 feet.

Darkvision: Parasites can see in the dark up to 60 feet.

Attach: Parasites are parasitic creatures that require a host body for sustenance, taking control of that host to manipulate it as they slowly feed. As a standard action that provokes attacks of opportunity, a parasite can attach itself to the brainstem of any living creature with the pinned condition. To do so, the parasite must know the location of the creature’s brain. This ability is ineffective against creatures with immunity to mind-affecting effects.

Once the parasite is attached, the host creature and parasite become indefinitely conjoined, functioning as a single creature with the personality, mental activity, alignment, number of hit dice, base saving throws, mental ability scores, base attack bonus, feats, traits, class skills, skill ranks, and class abilities of the parasite, but the race, size category, creature type, armour class, hit points, movement types, physical ability scores, and racial traits of the host creature. A creature who is aware of the parasite can choose to target the parasite instead of the conjoined whole. When targeted in this way, the parasite uses its own stats as unmodified by the host body, but it receives a circumstance bonus to Reflex and AC equal to the host creature’s Dexterity modifier (minimum 0) and a shield bonus to AC equal to the host creature’s base attack bonus. If the host creature takes hit point damage from a spell or ability with an area of effect, the parasite takes an equal amount of damage as though targeted separately.

When attached to a host, bonuses from equipment worn or wielded by the parasite only affect the conjoined whole if they apply to its mental ability scores, class abilities, or Will saves. However, equipment worn or wielded by the host creature always affects the conjoined whole.

A parasite can detach itself from a host creature as a standard action that provokes attacks of opportunity, dealing 1 point of bleed damage to the host and leaving it unconscious.

Host Dependent: A parasite feeds off the body of its host. Parasites can only survive without attaching to a living host for a number of hours equal to twice their Constitution score.

Languages: Parasites begin play speaking Common and Aboleth. Parasites with high Intelligence scores can choose any languages they want (except secret languages, such as Druidic).

Design Decision Notes:
1) The physical ability score penalties are so the player has to at least think about those scores when assigning values. If they dump all their physical stats down to 7s, they end up with Str 1, Dex 1, and Con 3 (giving them 6 hours total between hosts). This means any time spent between hosts is a big, big deal (13 AC, -4 hp per hit dice, ability to carry virtually nothing, etc.). Without these penalties, a player could quite happily dump all physical stats to 7 and have 32 points to spend on mental stats in a 20 point game, which seemed too good.

2) It is intentionally difficult to attach. The host creature needs to be pinned. As a fine-sized creature with a -8 to CMB, it's very, very unlikely that the parasite is able to successfully grapple and then succesfully pin just about any worthwhile host on its own. This means the parasite either needs an ally who's willing to pin the prospective host, or the host needs to be unconscious or otherwise helpless to ensure the parasite's success at pinning it. This seems good for balance, because the party will generally need to best any potential host body before it can be utilized. And the better hosts are going to be better at resisting grappling and pinning in-combat too.

3) Right now, as written, hit points are derived from the host. This was a decision made to reduce the need for confusing calculations involving using the parasite's hit dice but the host's Constitution modifier. I realize there are already similarly confusing calculations inherent to this design in the form of skills, but I felt that was more or less unavoidable since the ranks have to come from somewhere, and the physical ability scores and mental ability scores were coming from different places regardless. I'm open to having my mind changed about this, though. It does have the consequence of meaning some bodies will have way above or below average hit points for whatever class(es) and level the player is.

4) At the moment the base attack bonus is completely derived from the parasite, but I keep wondering if the BAB should be derived from a combination of the host's racial hit dice and the parasite's class hit dice. That would probably be too good, right? And more unnecessary calculations? I feel like this race is already so much better served by attaching to weird monsters than it is humanoids (assuming there's no social reason not to do so) that this would probably be overkill.

5) The languages section of the write-up is just a placeholder until we figure out the fluff of the race and I have time to delve through all the languages to think about what's appropriate. I kind of hate that any race is limited to particular starting languages, though.

What do people think? Any obvious balance issues? How do people see this playing?

Mind you, I've seen this thread, but haven't read through it all yet. I searched for "parasite" in this forum after writing up my race, but decided I'd go ahead and post what I've got before delving too deeply into other people's work.

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I just finished reading through Jason's thread on the point of hybrids, and I have to say that I'm really disappointed with the way much of the community is handling this playtest. A few things about these classes are not going to change, most notably that they exist and that they are each going to be mechanically rooted in two existing classes. I know a lot of you don't like that (and frankly I'm not sold on hybrids without significant blending, myself), but there are only two productive ways to handle your frustration:

1) Sit this playtest out. If new classes aren't your thing, accept that this playtest isn't for you and plan not to purchase the book. If you find the concept of hybrids irredeemably repugnant, do likewise. They're happening, and all complaining serves to do is increase the volume of text the designers have to wade through to get the useful feedback. If you think these concepts are awful, it's childish to actively contribute to making them worse by gumming up the data. You've written them off. Let people who haven't have their shot at helping to improve them.

2) Playtest. Endure for the greater good, and provide feedback, suggestions, and data that will help improve each of these classes. I happen to quite like the concept of hybrids, but I believe many of the new classes as-written need some mechanical massaging to help their individual components more seamlessly integrate. I've picked my favourites and I'm diligently working to provide useful (not pointlessly critical) opinions, feedback, and suggestions to help make these classes the best they can be. It's the only sure road to meaningfully improve anything about these classes. I'll admit that I'm struggling to stay positive with the investigator, but I'm trying. Maybe for some of you who really aren't taken by these classes, working to improve your least favourites would be more productive? Just try to focus on improvement since "tearing down" isn't an option.

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We know that the ACG is going to have archetypes for each of the new classes. List some suggestions you have for archetypes so Paizo knows what the people want!

Arcanist 1) a metamagic specialist, 2) a tinkerer

Bloodrager 1) a dedicated debuffer, 2) a shapeshifter that focuses on polymorphing to augment combat capabilities, 3) maybe a version that skews more toward sorcerer than barbarian and can use actual sorcerer bloodlines, so that some of the more martial and obscure bloodlines (Orc, I'm looking at you) can have their day in the sun

Shaman 1) a build focused much more heavily on augmenting and improving the familiar, maybe with early access to improved familiars or an alternate list of improved familiar options (I'd love to see a similar option for the witch for that matter), 2) a more druidy shaman with a few unique nature spirits and access to the druid spell list (or at least witch) instead of cleric, 3) for that matter, a creepier or more witch-doctor-like shaman

Skald 1) a debuffer, maybe who inspires rage in enemies instead of allies, maybe as some sort of modified Antagonize/tanking plan

Slayer 1) a sniper/gun-oriented slayer

Swashbuckler 1) obviously a gun swashbuckler (which they've already said is happening), 2) a more rogue-like/skillful swashbuckler

Warpriest 1) a debuffer (I know, I know, I like cursing, hexing, and debuffing way too much)

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I just did some combats with a 10th level bloodrager, and I have a few observations. First of all, I love the concept and I think the class is a great start. As the author of epic thread "Dear Paizo, please give us a gish base class!" I think I've demonstrated my love for the arcane warrior niche. I'm a big fan of the magus and have played many of them, but I've been super stoked to play a class that trades the magus's more learned and tactical style for something a little more primal and instinctive. Here's what I learned:

1) The spells feel sort of stapled onto a barbarian. The ability to cast while raging is awesome, and the bloodline powers are really cool and interesting, but the bloodrager gets so few spells and seems so focused on hitting things, that the spells get lost in the shuffle. I rarely had occasion to use them. This leads to the class playing almost exactly like a barbarian with way more limited rage powers that don't allow for rage-cycling. The magus gets Spell Combat and Spellstrike which allow it to combine its casting with its combat in a way that feels seamless. Those methods feel more tactical, though. I don't think a bloodrager should drink from that well, but it should have some way to blend casting with its fighting style that still rewards it being a combatant primarily, maybe akin to the following:

Example Ability wrote:
The bloodrager has a pool of points that begin at 0 each day. Whenever he confirms a critical hit or takes damage in excess of 1/2 of his hit points, he gains 1 point. The bloodrager can spend any number of points to cast a spell he knows of a level equal to or lower than the number of points he spent as a swift action.

2) They're really MAD. The magus can get away with being a little more MAD because it lowers its need for Intelligence by use Spellstrike to take advantage of touch spells that don't allow for saving throws. The bloodrager has no such benefit, leaving the need for good physical stats across the board and good Charisma.

3) The spell list is also a little awkward, though I understand why it was chosen. This leads into the first two points, but bloodragers just don't have the Charisma or the action economy to support this list, which was designed for a class with Spell Combat and Spellstrike. I don't know what the solution is here, though. I understand that a whole new spell list sucks from a perspective of backwards compatibility.

4) They don't necessarily need all the barbarian abilities they have. They desperately want some way to blend their casting with their combat better than they currently are, so I can see Uncanny Dodge (Improved or otherwise) or Fast Movement getting the boot to make space.

Those are my early observations, and I'll keep reporting as I keep playtesting.

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Here is the text of the Prehensile Hair hex (emphasis mine), found on page 81 of Ultimate Magic:

Ultimate Magic wrote:
The witch can instantly cause her hair (or even her eyebrows) to grow up to 10 feet long or to shrink to its normal length, and can manipulate her hair as if it were a limb with a Strength score equal to her Intelligence score. Her hair has reach 10 feet, and she can use it as a secondary natural attack that deals 1d3 points of damage (1d2 for a Small witch). Her hair can manipulate objects (but not weapons) as dexterously as a human hand. The hair cannot be sundered or attacked as a separate creature. Pieces cut from the witch’s elongated hair shrink away to nothing. Using her hair does not harm the witch’s head or neck, even if she lifts something heavy with it. The witch can manipulate her hair a number of minutes each day equal to her level; these minutes do not need to be consecutive, but must be spent in 1-minute increments. A typical male witch with this hex can also manipulate his beard, moustache, or eyebrows.

Is the hair actually a secondary attack or does she just "use it as" one?

Or asked another way:

Normally, when a creature has no other natural attacks and attacks only with a secondary attack, it forgoes the secondary attack penalty and applies 1.5 Strength to damage. When a witch with no other natural attacks uses only his or her hair to attack as a standard action, does that witch take the -5 penalty to his or her attack and apply half Strength (really Intelligence) to damage, regardless?

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The way I'm reading the spellslinger archetype (Ultimate Combat, pg.74), when you use your arcane gun, you don't actually shoot your gun or use your gun's stats in any particular way. You merely use your spell as normal, but add the gun's enhancement bonus to either the attack roll or the DC of the spell, but add the caveats of 1) possibly misfiring and 2) having a x3 crit multiplier on your spell if you only have one arcane gun.

So, is there ever a reason to have two arcane guns? Is it just so you have a back-up gun in case you get disarmed or something? Shooting a spell doesn't seem to use the gun in any conventional sense. It's not an attack action, you don't need to load any bullets (and you don't deal any extra damage from bullets being part of the equation), you don't care if you're within any particular range increment in terms of figuring out whether your attack roll is against touch AC, and you don't even need to make an attack roll unless the spell calls for it. The rules therefore don't seem to support being able to two-hand a pair of pistols and shoot two spells in a round unless I'm missing something.

I just can't see why anyone would ever choose two arcane guns instead of getting the x3 crit multiplier on the single one. Am I misreading, or missing something?

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How does the spell storing magical armour property actually work? It's listed on page 122 of Ultimate Equipment and states "anytime a creature hits the wearer with a melee attack or melee touch attack, the armour can cast the spell on that creature as a swift action if the wearer desires". However, usually it isn't your turn when you're getting hit, which would make spending a swift action impossible.

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Is a bladebound magus automatically proficient with his or her black blade? It seems there are a number of exotic weapons that meet the black blade's requirement of being a one-handed slashing weapon, and it would be awkward not to be proficient with your bonded intelligent item.

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If an animal companion has a type other than animal (such as magical beast or undead), does it use the statistics (HD, BAB, saving throw progressions, etc.) appropriate for its actual type, or is the Animal Companion Base Statistics chart on page 52 of the Core Rulebook the final arbiter of companion statistics regardless of type?

This is relevant with regard to the Celestial Servant feat found on page 88 of the Advanced Race Guide.

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I've read the FAQ regarding animal companions and familiars and their ability to wear magic items. It makes sense to me, but I have a gripe with it.

The idea of uniformly allowing neck and barding options I like, and I don't at all mind having to own Animal Archive or take Extra Item Slot to gain access to additional item slots (even though I'm pretty much never in favour of house rules, since they're frequently hard for players to remember and they needlessly complicate an already complicated game).

What I do mind is that by campaign RAW (table variance not withstanding) snakes are the only animals not benefiting from neck and barding options. As an owner of the Animal Archive, I can infer from the FAQ that piscine, serpentine, and verminous animal companions/familiars would all fail to benefit from the barding and neck slot rule, but this leaves people in the peculiar pickle of having to own Animal Archive in order to know that their animal companion is not capable of wearing armour or necklaces.

I realize the intent of the FAQ is to ask players and GMs to make reasonable educated guesses about which anatomies can support which item slots, but I think that's a taller order than it may at first blush seem. For instance, even with the explicitly stated snake example, there's just no part of my being that believes a neck slot for a snake is less realistic than a belt or headband slot (both of which appear on the Animal Archive item slot list for serpentine bodies, opening them up for Extra Item Slot availability in PFS). I mean, how is a headband in any way realistic for a snake? They don't have foreheads. And in what way is a belt different than a tight-fitting necklace? Or for a snake, isn't a headband effectively the same as a necklace or belt? Magical items explicitly resize themselves to fit their wearers, don't they?

Looking through the animal companion lists, there are precious few animals whose anatomy seems incompatible with being able to wear a necklace. The only ones I'm seeing are manta rays, stingrays, and crabs. And I can't think of a single animal that couldn't wear armour specifically fitted for them.

I guess I'm just saying that the FAQ as-written is pretty ambiguous, and I think the main reason more people haven't voiced confusion over the issue is because most people don't realize they can't just equip their animals however they want, and haven't seen the FAQ. I also think it's always in the interests of the campaign to be as clear, concise, and uniform as possible. A specific list of which animals can't wear barding and neck-slot items would do the trick, but I honestly think it would be a much healthier ruling (not to mention a smaller workload for the campaign staff) to just fully uniformly allow neck and barding slots. The few cases which would test suspension of disbelief would be well worth the fewer player headaches and table variation that would result.

John, Mike, et al.: as always, I think you're doing a great job, so I hope you read this in the spirit of helpful feedback and not mean-spirited griping and nit-picking. Thanks!

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I have a nagaji naga-aspirant character in PFS. He's a GM-credit character who I only began playing upon his reaching 4th level when his animal companion bumped up to Large size. I've played him exactly once. I won't bore you with the details of his build and character, but needless to say he's all about snakes, up to and including worship of Ydersius.

I already knew about the alternate summoning lists in various adventure paths, but I was on the PRD the other day and noticed that summon nature's ally actually has an alternate list that allows you to summon some sort of snake at every spell level. Imagine my surprise at how perfectly this slotted into my character concept.

Looking over the additional resources list, though, it seems Serpent's Skull, Vol. 6: Sanctum of the Serpent God (AP.42) isn't a legal source for PFS and I'm trying to understand why. The following appears to be all that could possibly be legal for PFS from this AP volume:

Belt of the Snake King (pg.28, but legal already from Gods and Magic)
Snakescale Armor (pg.39)

constricting coils (pg.71)
customized summoning list (pg.71)

And I recognize this isn't a whole lot, but it's honestly on par with the quantity available in many of the other volumes of Serpent's Skull (and other APs), many of which are legal for PFS. So, I guess I just wondered whether this was intentional and whether it would be possible to have this book added as a legal source.

The only reasons I can think why this book wouldn't be allowed are:

1) Ydersius is an evil god, and not just a little bit evil either. Nevertheless, he is a legal PFS deity, and I feel like a player willing to come up with a creative solution to worshiping an evil god without being (or acting) evil shouldn't be denied access to rules like these, especially when they're comparable to rules open to worshipers of several other gods.

2) Grandfathered source selection from the Josh Frost era. And if this is the only reason, could the current campaign leadership please take a second look at this book? There's so little material in this book, it would only take ten or fifteen minutes to give it a thorough look. I'm sure in the grand scheme of things it's not adding much to PFS, but even if only a small handful of people benefit from its addition, it's probably worth it at that sort of a time investment. And this alternate summoning list would really add a lot to my character and his story, if nothing else.

Thanks in advance!

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I live in Philadelphia, but I'm going to be in London from September 25th until October 4th and in Dublin from October 4th until October 8th. Does anybody know of any regular PFS games in either city that would be open to a walk-in or one-time out-of-towner? Maybe two of us? My girlfriend plays Pathfinder too, and while she hasn't played PFS in a long time, she'll be with me and may prefer to just do what I'm doing that day rather than figure out stuff to do on her own.

I'd love to play a game while I'm out of the country, though!

I have the following characters I could play:

Baku Tazzi half-elf undead scourge paladin 2/oracle of wind 7
Chumbo Pummelhammer aasimar barbarian 1/oracle of life 2
Gob Bluth human illusionist 5
Kahn Ragamoto nagaji naga-aspirant druid 4
Khertet Osiris aasimar druid 7
Koft Meekonam human witch of deception 13
Seth Khaldun human magus 9

My girlfriend has a bard, but I'm not sure what level. Probably somewhere around 4 or 5. Anyway, any tips would be great!

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I need some modern gun stats. I'm not half bad at coming up with custom stats, but I know nothing about guns. I figured if anybody would know a thing or two about guns it was the internet, so here are some existing Pathfinder gun stats that seem relevant:

Double-Barreled Shotgun* 1d8, x2, 80 ft., misfire 1-2, capacity 2, 15 lbs., B+P, scatter, move action to load
Lawrence 1917 Flamethrower** 4d6, no crit, capacity 6, 20 lbs. (plus 40 lbs. of tanks), fire damage, 60 ft. line that works more or less like the automatic weapon quality but each shot uses only one of its 6 bursts of flame (as opposed to 10 bullets) and creatures hit must make a DC 20 Reflex save or catch on fire (2d6 fire damage each round until extinguished) plus the tanks add -4 to armour check penalty and a ruptured tank explodes (hardness 10, 5 hp, 6d6 fire damage to wielder, and 3d6 within 20 ft. radius with normal Reflex save)
Madsen Light Machine Gun** 2d6, x4, 100 ft., misfire 1-2, capacity 20/30/40, 20 lbs., B+P, automatic, swift action to load
Maxim M1910 Machine Gun** 2d8, x4, 120 ft., misfire 1-2, capacity 250, 140 lbs., B+P, automatic, usually mounted but if it isn't -4 penalty on attack rolls and knocked prone after firing due to recoil, has a shield that provides cover to firer, if aided by a loader get a +2 bonus on next attack roll
Mosin-Nagant M1891 Rifle** 1d10, x4, 80 ft., misfire 1, capacity 5, 9 lbs., B+P, move action to load
Nagant M1895 Revolver** 1d8, x4, 80 ft., misfire 1, capacity 7, 4 lbs., B+P, move action to load
Pepperbox Rifle* 1d10, x4, 80 ft., misfire 1-2, capacity 4, 15 lbs., B+P, move action to load
Revolver* 1d8, x4, 20 ft., misfire 1, capacity 6, 4 lbs., B+P, move action to load
Rifle* 1d10, x4, 80 ft., misfire 1, capacity 1, 12 lbs., B+P, move action to load
Shotgun* 1d8, x2, 80 ft., misfire 1-2, capacity 1, 12 lbs., B+P, scatter, move action to load

Automatic Weapon Quality A weapon with the automatic weapon quality fires a burst of bullets with a single pull of the trigger, attacking all creatures in a line. This line starts from any corner of your space and extends to the limit of the weapon's range or until it strikes a barrier it cannot penetrate. When an automatic weapon attacks all creatures in a line, it makes a separate attack roll against each creature in the line. Each creature in the line can only be attacked with one bullet from each burst. Each attack roll takes a -2 penalty to account for recoil, and its attack damage cannot be modified by precision damage or damage-increasing feats such as Vital Strike. Effects that grant concealment, such as fog or smoke, or the blur, invisibility, or mirror image spells, do not foil an automatic weapon's line attack. If any of the attack rolls threaten a critical hit, confirm the critical for that attack roll alone. An automatic weapon misfires only if all of the attack rolls made misfire. A single attack with an automatic weapon fires 10 bullets. An automatic weapon cannot fire single bullets that target one creature. When taking a full-attack action with an automatic weapon, you can fire as many bursts in a round as you have attacks.

Scatter Weapon Quality A weapon with the scatter weapon quality can shoot two different types of ammunition. It can fire normal bullets that target one creature, or it can make a scattering shot, attacking all creatures within a cone. Cannons with the scatter weapon quality only fire grapeshot, unless their descriptions state otherwise. When a scatter weapon attacks all creatures within a cone, it makes a separate attack roll against each creature within the cone. Each attack roll takes a –2 penalty, and its attack damage cannot be modified by precision damage or damage-increasing feats such as Vital Strike. Effects that grant concealment, such as fog or smoke, or the blur, invisibility, or mirror image spells, do not foil a scatter attack. If any of the attack rolls threaten a critical, confirm the critical for that attack roll alone. A firearm that makes a scatter shot misfires only if all of the attack rolls made misfire. If a scatter weapon explodes on a misfire, it deals triple its damage to all creatures within the misfire radius.

* Ultimate Combat
** Reign of Winter, Part 5: Rasputin Must Die

Using these stats as the comparative basis, and bearing in mind that the Reign of Winter guns are all World War I era and the Ultimate Combat guns are all earrrrlly versions of those sorts of guns, I need present day versions of the following:

Assault Rifle
Grenade Launcher
Machine Gun
Pump Action Shotgun
Sniper Rifle

And really any other common modern handheld weapon I might be missing. What sorts of guns are modern day gangsters, mercenaries, and militaries using?

I feel like the fundamentals are all designed by Paizo already. What I need to know are how modern guns compare to these early guns. Does a modern handgun do more damage than a World War I revolver? Does it have more accurate range? Etc. If those of you with extensive real world gun knowledge could help me tweak all these numbers to get stats for modern weapons, I'd really appreciate it.

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I run PFS games at my store every week. We have over 50 regular players, and we've gotten to a point where we're running eight tables per week on-schedule, and usually another two to six tables off-schedule. I recently announced to our Google Group that I was going to begin cracking down on people not owning the books they were using for their characters, and unfortunately this has generated a bit of an issue.

I understand that if someone sits down to a table and they're using a feat or a piece of equipment from a book they don't own, they should just switch that feat out or get their gold back for that piece of equipment. That makes total sense to me. But I apparently have customers (and I'm using the term loosely here) who don't own a single Pathfinder book, and I'm not sure what to do about them.

Can someone who's using ten different books he doesn't own for a character effectively rebuild nearly every aspect of his character to be core only? Or does he have to make a choice between buying the books and losing his character? What am I supposed to do about this?

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I'm putting together a shadowdancer for Pathfinder Society. My main draw to the class is the ability to have a shadow companion, so I've been trying to figure out what else to do with the character to support that aspect of it. This is what I've come up with so far:

Magus as my main base class Magus has decent BAB and hit points to support the shadow, has access to darkness as a second level spell to help with hiding in plain sight, and gets a bonus feat at fifth level to help with how feat heavy this build is.

Chill touch as my main spellstrike spell I know there's some debate about how chill touch interacts with spellstrike, but it seems pretty unfounded to me, and the rules as written currently support this working favorably. I have to take Combat Reflexes anyway and I like the idea that I could cast and deliver, then deliver three or four more times with attacks of opportunity to get the most Strength damage for my buck to help support my shadow. Going into shadowdancer from 6th level on will leave me with precious few spell slots anyway, and I like that I'll get a lot more hits out of each casting than I would with the more traditional shocking grasp.

Combat Patrol as a vehicle for delivery. Combat Patrol has prerequisites in common with shadowdancer, and just seems so good if I can find or make an area of dim light, as it will give me way more options for making attacks of opportunity. The way I'm reading it, every time I move I can make a stealth check, so I should be able to re-hide using hide in plain sight every time I move to take an AoO. Expeditious retreat is on the magus spell list too. It just all feels so cohesive, and I've never seen another character that operates like this before.

1) Is there any reason to stay in shadowdancer after level 8? My shadow doesn't seem to care what levels I'm taking, and this would give me the option of taking more magus levels for more spells, levels of fighter for more feats and better BAB/HP for the shadow, or levels of ninja for sneak attack and pressure points since I'll have a reliable flanking partner.

2) I have a wayang boon and was planning on using it, but is there a compelling reason I should go human instead? I'm feat tight, but am I that tight? I need Dodge, Mobility, and Combat Reflexes for shadowdancer. Counting my magus bonus feat at fifth, I can take all that and Weapon Finesse in time, plus Dervish Dance at seventh, and Combat Patrol at 9th. Can anyone think of a reason I'd need more feats before then? Or a class level I should take instead of magus 5 that would leave me a feat short?

3) How important are my spells? Right now I'm in need of ways to be faster, ways to generate dim light, and chill touch. Obviously I'm in need of some pearls of power, but right now my only reasons for taking that fifth level of magus are more spells, the ability to enhance my weapon on the fly, and the bonus feat. If I went fighter instead I'd still get the feat and I'd qualify for Combat Patrol two levels earlier, plus my shadow'd be a little better. Are my speed and dim light needs accomplishable enough with fewer spells and the right equipment?

4) Is hexcrafter worth it? I was going to go that route for some hexes, but I'm action-starved enough that I'm having doubts. Which hexes are even worth it if my plan is to kill with Strength damage? I was considering Fortune and Cackle, but I just don't see having the actions free.

5) Does anyone have equipment recommendations? Or other recommendations? Or see complications I'm missing? I just want to make sure this character is fun, so I'm trying to be careful.

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If a character's Intelligence modifier improves, either through ability score increases every four levels or through a permanent bonus from a Headband of Vast Intelligence, does it result in the sudden and mysterious learning of a new language?

I'm not much interested in an argument about this, and I'm pretty sure I understand how this works, but I need an official (and specific) response from a Paizo staffer in order to either 1) get Hero Lab fixed to reflect the way I believe this works, or 2) add additional languages to many of my PFS characters.

Please mark this post for FAQ inclusion, so we can lay this years-old issue to rest!

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My birthday's in early May. I'm turning 30, so to celebrate how responsible and adult I am, I'm organizing a birthday Pathfinder PvP team battle where everyone's playing an X-Men character. Rather than try to use existing classes, I'm basically putting together monster statblocks for each character that reflect the actual power sets and characteristics of each individual character. My plan at the moment is for everyone to have between 3 and 5 hit dice, and to keep the relative power level low so that the heavy hitters feel like heavy hitters, etc.

As a starting point, I decided to look at the "stat-blocks" Marvel publishes for each of their characters and see if I could port those numbers over to Pathfinder stats. So, the numbers listed after each character are their Intelligence, Strength, Speed, Durability, Energy Projection, and Fighting Skill, respectively (on a scale of 1 to 7).

Blink 2 2 3 2 1 4
Deadpool 2 4 2 4 1 6
Gambit 2 2 2 2 2 4
Juggernaut 2 7 2 7 1 4
Magik 4 2 2 3 6 4
Magneto 5 2 5 2 6 4
Marrow 2 3 2 4 1 4
Mystique 4 2 2 4 1 5
Nightcrawler 3 2 3 2 1 3
Psylocke 2 3 2 3 5 6
Rogue 2 6 3 6 1 3 (clearly these are 90s stats)
Wolverine 2 4 2 4 1 7

How much weight should I give these numbers? Some of them feel a little weird to me. And do people have suggestions on how to implement these numbers? My gut is that the intelligence and strength scores listed should actually just be the characters' Int and Str modifiers. Maybe do the same with speed and durability? Just port them directly as Dex and Con modifiers? I had some ideas about using fighting skill to figure out BAB, but nothing's clicking so far. What do people think?

Once I have the basics worked out for the system (and I do want to stick as closely to actual Pathfinder rules as possible, not reinvent the wheel), I'll start posting my first drafts of stat-blocks here for people to critique and help me balance. I think we're going to actually play on May 12th, so I've got until then to get everything done!

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I have a garuda-blooded aasimar druid with a celestial roc animal companion that I don't really want to play until the roc's big enough that it can serve as my mount. So, I've been dumping GM credits on it and I'll start playing the character once he hits 7th level. In the meantime, I have a 7th level character to put together. Here's my starting point:

Ability Scores: Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 21 (includes bonus from headband), Cha 8
Feats: Celestial Servant, Mounted Combat, [insert feat here], [insert feat here]
Notable Equipment: +1 bronze dragonhide breastplate, +1 scythe, headband of inspired wisdom +2, acrimony veil (from GM cert)

Ability Scores: Str 22, Dex 19, Con 13, Int 2, Wis 13, Cha 14 (includes bonus from headband)
Feats: Light Armour Proficiency, Combat Reflexes, Power Attack
Tricks: Attack (x2), Come, Defend, Down, Fetch, Guard, Heel, Stay
Notable Equipment: +1 chain shirt barding, headband of alluring charisma +2

And tactically, my plan is not to really wild shape often (if ever), but to ride around on my mount, letting it take full attacks when possible, and raining down lightning from the sky in the form of (sometimes empowered) call lightnings and ball lightnings. I like that I can move ball lightning as a move action, and call down lightning bolts as a standard action, allowing me to do both while either remaining mobile or letting my mount do even further damage.

It's more a concept build than a power gaming strategy. I like the idea of stormy heavenly bird druid guy, riding around on his great big heavenly bird. Consequently, I'm a little stumped on the feat slots. Celestial servant is a non-negotiable, and mounted combat makes a lot of sense since I plan to pretty much always be mounted, but after that I'm at a loss. Natural spell seems like an obvious choice since I'm a druid and I can wild shape, but it's not really a cornerstone of my strategy. And I considered ride-by attack and possibly spirited charge, but I just don't see myself charging very often. Ride-by attack isn't very clear, but it doesn't necessarily seem to involve my mount being able to attack too, and frankly my mount's the one that wants to be making melee attacks, not me. And my mount would rather be full-attacking.

I don't know. Does anyone have recommendations for feats that advance or synergize with my proposed strategy?


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I have a few GM certs on a character I have yet to build and I want to put together a Hellknight Signifer. I've always been into mixed martial and magical characters and this class just seems awesome. I've looked into some options and it seems like cleric 5 is the easiest and most effective way to get into the class. Unfortunately, I'm just not that into the idea of playing this as a cleric.

I'm 99% sure I want to go wizard or witch (though feel free to try to change my mind), and the more I've looked into the two options, the more confident I am that wizard is probably the route I want to go. This is for two reasons: 1) I compiled a list of spells without somatic components and/or with swift or immediate action casting times, and the wizard just has the better list than the witch (and these spells seem important additions to the character, so I can attack and cast in the same round, and so I can cast without always having to activate those terrible arcane armour feats); 2) arcane bond just seems the better fit than a familiar (having spontaneous access to one situational spell a day seems useful, and being able to enhance my own weapon in PFS where NOBODY can normally enhance their weapons seems massive).

If I'm going wizard, I want to go teleportation-specialist wizard for the swift dimension door ability, but 15-foot teleporting is a huuuuge step-up from 10-foot teleporting, which makes me want to take 6 levels of wizard. Unfortunately, given that this is PFS, I just can't fathom taking more than 6 levels of anything before I start my prestige levels, so I can actually get decent play-time with the prestige class. And unfortunately, I'd have to take two armour proficiency feats and a weapon proficiency feat to reasonably play the character and qualify for the prestige class. This leads me to think a level of fighter is pretty much a must-have, but again--I don't want to do fighter 1/wizard 6 because that's 7 full levels before I get to start up with the prestige class.

So, what I need is PFS-legal suggestions or ideas for traits, spells, equipment, or anything else that will either allow me to cheat an effective additional wizard-level onto my swift dimension door ability with only five actual levels or ways that I can avoid the fighter level without having to have four terrible feats somehow squeezed into 6 levels.

I also have a wayang boon and was considering using it for this character.

Any help?

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I'm a huge fan of teleportation. The last time I played a duskblade (before Pathfinder arrived), I got approval from my GM to add a bunch of teleportation spells to the duskblade spell list. Currently I'm playing a magus going for the dimensional feat tree. Given that I want teleportation to be a major part of what my character does, and the magus can't do it until 10th level, I began to look at additional spell options to try to add to my character, and found that many of Paizo's options seem available only to strange class choices and mostly seem underpowered (especially when compared with the travel domain and teleportation specialization wizard options), almost all of the third party options out there seem either over or underpowered, and that most of the old 3.5 spells seem pretty overpowered. So, with GM approval, I'm authoring some of my own, taking into consideration all of the preexisting options I found.

Here are some reference spells:

Paizo Pathfinder Spells on the Magus Spell List
Dimension Door
Walk Through Space

Paizo Pathfinder Spells Not on the Magus Spell List
Hostile Juxtaposition
Jester's Jaunt
King's Castle
Litany of Escape

Third Party Pathfinder Spells
Dimension Hop
Teleporting Strike

D&D 3.5 Spells (Not OGL)
Baleful Transposition (Spell Compendium)
Benign Transposition (Spell Compendium)
Dimension Hop (Player's Handbook 2)
Dimension Shuffle (Player's Handbook 2)
Knight's Move (Spell Compendium)
Regroup (Player's Handbook 2)

I know I want a 2nd level spell and a 3rd level spell, and I want one of them to be usable offensively in conjunction with spellstrike, so the following are what I came up with. I wanted very basic spells as my starting point, but I'm open to more interesting ideas in addition if people have any. I'm looking for power level feedback mostly (since existing spells are all over the place and hard to gauge)!

School conjuration (teleportation); Level magus 3, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V
Range touch
Target creature touched
Duration instantaneous
Saving Throw Will negates; Spell Resistance yes

You teleport the target (and all objects it's wearing or carrying) a distance of 25 feet plus 5 feet per two caster levels to an unoccupied space you can see.

Dimension Gap
School conjuration (teleportation); Level bard 2, magus 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, summoner 2, witch 2
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V
Range close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target you
Duration instantaneous
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance no

You teleport yourself from your current location to any other unoccupied spot you can see within range. After using this spell, you can't take any other actions until your next turn. You can bring along objects as long as their weight doesn't exceed your maximum load, but not additional creatures. This spell counts as dimension door for the purposes of qualifying for or benefitting from the Dimensional Agility feat and feats with Dimensional Agility as a prerequisite.

School conjuration (teleportation); Level magus 1
Casting Time 1 swift action
Components V
Range personal
Target you
Duration instantaneous
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance no

You teleport yourself to standing position from lying prone. You must begin and end in the same space.

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Hey there! My GM and I recently began work on an arcane ranger archetype because it fits the character concept of a fellow player who's brand new to the game and who started off taking levels of ranger, but has decided she wants to go a more arcane route. Neither my GM nor I is the most experienced ranger player, but we're both reasonably experienced players, and this is our first stab at an arcane ranger. The basic concept is to remove the really druidy feeling aspects of the ranger and replace them with more wizardly feeling parts instead. Please be honest about this and open with feedback! I can take critique and constructive criticism, but I'm not even going to acknowledge scathing remarks or posts to the tune of "this is a stupid concept and you shouldn't even bother with it." Our mind is at least made up that we are going to put forth this archetype as an option to the player. We just want help making sure it's not too over or underpowered. Thanks!

Transcendent Wayfarer Ranger Archetype

Class Skills

A transcendent wayfarer’s class skills are Climb (Str), Craft (Int), Intimidate (Cha), Knowledge (arcana) (Int), Knowledge (dungeoneering) (Int), Knowledge (geography) (Int), Knowledge (nature) (Int), Perception (Wis), Profession (Wis), Ride (Dex), Spellcraft (Int), Stealth (Dex), Survival (Wis), Swim (Str), and Use Magic Device (Cha).

This replaces the standard ranger class skills.

Weapon and Armour Proficiency

A transcendent wayfarer is proficient with all simple and martial weapons and with light armour, medium armour, and shields (except tower shields). She can cast transcendent wayfarer spells while wearing light armour without incurring the normal arcane spell failure chance. Like any other arcane spellcaster, a transcendent wayfarer wearing medium armour, heavy armour, or a shield incurs a chance of arcane spell failure if the spell in question has a somatic component. A multiclass transcendent wayfarer still incurs the normal arcane spell failure chance for arcane spells received from other classes.

This replaces the standard ranger weapon and armour proficiency.

Detect Magic (Sp)

A transcendent wayfarer can cast detect magic as a spell-like ability at-will with a caster level equal to her ranger level.

This ability replaces wild empathy.

Transcendent Wayfarer Combat Style

A transcendent wayfarer gains access to the following combat style. She may still only choose one combat style to pursue.

Arcane Combat Style:

If the ranger selects arcane style, she can choose from the following list whenever she gains a combat style feat:

Arcane Armour Training, Arcane Strike, Spell Focus, Spell Penetration, and Spell Specialization**.

  • At 6th level, she adds Arcane Armour Mastery, Arcane Blast*, Arcane Shield*, and Greater Spell Specialization** to the list.
  • At 10th level, she adds Destructive Dispel*** and Spell Perfection* to the list.

Arcane Bond (Ex or Sp)

At 4th level, a transcendent wayfarer gains an arcane bond, as a wizard equal to her ranger level minus 3.

This ability replaces hunter’s bond.


At 4th level, a transcendent wayfarer gains the ability to cast a small number of spells exactly like a standard ranger does, except her spells are arcane and drawn from the transcendent wayfarer spell list and she uses Intelligence instead of Wisdom when determining the highest level of spells she can cast, her spell save DCs, and any effects of her spells normally determined by her Wisdom. She must also choose to specialize in one school of magic, adding all ranger and sorcerer/wizard spells of 4th level or lower from that school of magic (that are not already on her class list) to her class spell list at the same spell level a standard ranger or wizard would receive them (whichever is higher). This choice must be made at 4th level, and once made it cannot be changed.

Each day, instead of meditating, a transcendent wayfarer must spend 1 hour communing with her familiar or studying her bonded item (depending on which she chose) in order to prepare spells for the day, though she may still prepare any spell on her class spell list, provided that she can cast spells of that level.

Transcendent Wayfarer Spell List

1: abundant ammunition***, air bubble***, alarm, ant haul*, anticipate peril**, bowstaff***, cloak of shade*, dancing lantern*, deadeye’s lore***, delay poison, detect aberration*, detect animals or plants, detect poison, detect snares and pits, diagnose disease**, endure elements, feather fall, feather step*, glide*, gravity bow*, hide from animals, horn of pursuit**, hunter’s howl*, jump, keen senses*, know the enemy**, lead blades*, liberating command***, longshot***, longstrider, negate aroma*, obscuring mist, pass without trace, read magic, residual tracking*, resist energy, returning weapon***, sun metal***, tireless pursuit*

2: accelerate poison*, acute senses**, allfood*, ant haul (communal)***, arrow eruption*, badger’s ferocity**, bear’s endurance, bloodhound*, brow gasher***, bull’s strength, campfire wall*, cat’s grace, chameleon stride*, create treasure map*, cure light wounds, eagle eye*, effortless armour***, endure elements (communal)***, forest friend***, fox’s cunning, glitterdust, guiding star*, hide campsite*, hunter’s eye*, locate weakness***, protection from energy, protective spirit*, reloading hands***, ricochet shot***, slipstream*, snare, stone call*, versatile weapon*, wind wall

3: blessing of the mole**, burrow**, burst of speed***, clairaudience/clairvoyance, cloak of winds, cure moderate wounds, darkvision, delay poison (communal)***, dispel magic, feather step (mass)*, fickle winds**, instant enemy*, life bubble*, named bullet***, neutralize poison, protection from energy (communal)***, remove disease, resist energy (communal)***, tireless pursuers*, venomous bolt*, water breathing, water walk

4: blessing of the salamander*, bow spirit*, commune with nature, cure serious wounds, darkvision (communal)***, darkvision (greater)**, dispel magic (greater), find quarry***, freedom of movement, named bullet (greater)***, nondetection, stoneskin, terrain bond***, tree stride, water walk (communal)***

* Advanced Player's Guide
** Ultimate Magic
*** Ultimate Combat

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Is there a PFS ruling on how to calculate your animal companion's CR for the spell resistance gained from the ARG's Celestial Servant feat?

I just assume that the spell resistance never progresses beyond 5, since it's 5+CR and PCs and their pets don't really have CRs.

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Thanks, guys!

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I played part 1 of Rats of Round Mountain the other day. I plan on playing part 2 with the same character before playing any other scenarios with that character. The chronicle sheet quite clearly states that the special reward is only available so long as my next chronicle sheet is part 2. Does that really mean that if I had taken a holiday boon as part of part 1, or if I GMed a different scenario for credit on this character between parts 1 and 2, that I wouldn't be eligible for whatever additional benefit is available for playing them back to back? I understood the point to be that the benefit was for having your character remain in the field between scenarios, and as far as I know GMing or taking a holiday doesn't have any bearing on that.

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I have a ninth-level witch with Improved Familiar and a quasit by his side. I understand the risks of having my spellbook wander into battle, but I chose the quasit for its resilience (my spellbook has fast healing 2!) and I know when to use him and when to hold him back. Unfortunately, the quasit basically does nothing, and I have a feat invested into him. Solution? Time to turn my piles of gold into "equip my quasit."

Anyone have any suggestions for items that would make the little devil (I mean demon) a little more useful? He doesn't currently have UMD, but if he needs it I can get him up to a +9 next time I level up. Right now, he just has an Amulet of Mighty Fists that bestows vicious on him.


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I know about, but it seems like that site hasn't been updated since November or so, and it seems like the owner of that site decided to dilute its purpose by adding in all the hardback content too, which just isn't necessary since it's available so many other places, and arguably isn't even really desirable since it clutters the resource quite a bit.

Has anyone else stepped up to bat since Archives of Nethys stopped updating? Amongst other things, there's an item a friend recently saw in a newish paperback book that was something to the tune of Shackles of Truthfulness, and neither of us can find it now. It was an item similar to Manacles of Cooperation but more focused on forcing the wearer to tell the truth. And I'm also on the hunt for an item or feat that will give my 9th-level witch access to greater invisibility.

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I have a ninth-level witch who could benefit greatly from the addition of greater invisibility to his repertoire. I have my ninth-level feat slot open, so a feat would work, and I also have about 23,000 gp so an item would work too. Right now I'm leaning toward a Staff of Stealth from the APG, but I wondered if people had other suggestions before I commit to that. Thanks!

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A customer really wants to build a druid who grows these things. I assume the answer's no, but I told him I'd take it to the source.

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So, I went to Paizocon 2010, and had a really fun time playing a variety of different games over the course of the event. However, only one of those events was part of the Pathfinder Society (Echoes of the Everwar, Part IV). The character with which I played that event was 7th level, and after I got back from Paizocon, all the games I played were with lower-level characters.

Well, tonight I'm playing in a higher level mod and I decided to dust off the old character for the first time in over a year. Unfortunately, somebody at Paizocon reported the character as having played in Silent Tide too. I don't know if other people can see the sessions for each other's characters but here's a link to the page, just in case:

Koft Meekonam

It's super weird. It's listed as not having a GM, but it's showing up as part of my character nonetheless, and I received 2 prestige for (not) participating too!

I know I've reported this issue at least once in the past, certainly to Josh Frost, but maybe also to one of his successors, and I don't remember if they just never got back to me or if they told me there was nothing they could do about it, but what do I do?

I'm more than happy to ignore it and just accept that my chronicle sheets will always show me (correctly) having 1 less XP and 2 less prestige than my online records, except that this little oversight is going to prevent my character from ever getting credit for playing Silent Tide in the future. Actually, that might not be an issue because I believe one of my other characters played Silent Tide before the replay rules were changed, but still it's annoying that my online records are wrong and what if one of my other characters HADN'T played that particular mod?

What do I do? Anyone else ever have a similar problem?

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Hey there. I'm making a new PFS character for the first time in a long while, and I decided to go with an undead lord cleric, as it seemed like a lot of fun. I have a really good non-evil premise for the character.

Anyway, I did some thread searching and I saw that a few other people had asked about corpse companions and how they worked. To me, the ability reads pretty clearly and I have no doubt that I can animate any fallen creature with discernible anatomy in-game as long as the result doesn't end up with HD exceeding my own.

What I'm curious about is: can I begin with a 1HD skeleton the very first game I play with this character? As in, can we assume that as an undead lord he has come across some sort of corpse in the past and animated it? Or do I have to wait until something dies in the first adventure and stall the game for 8 in-game hours?

I would hope I could begin play with a companion, but I need an official ruling before I begin playing the character.


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Is there an official ruling on whether or not Spell Combat is a full-attack action? I'm building a magus as my new character for an existing 9th-level home game, and the GM and I are having a disagreement about the way this ability is worded. I'll happily defer to him if there's no official ruling, but I believe he'd happily defer to me if there is an official ruling that says I'm right. It's not a huge deal either way, but I figured I'd ask.

The way I read Spell Combat, it functions like two-weapon fighting, which DOES use a full-attack action. It then goes on to clarify exactly what being "like two-weapon fighting" means, during which it notes that you need to use a full-round action. I read that as being explanatory, and not as superseding the original statement that it functions like two-weapon fighting. A full-attack action IS a full-round action, so it doesn't seem to me to be problematic that it uses only the full-round terminology. The full-attack action seems inherent to the ability since the ability works "like two-weapon fighting."

My GM, on the other hand, believes the fact that it doesn't explicitly state that it's a full-attack action means it isn't, and that the "works much like two-weapon fighting" terminology is meant only to draw comparison mechanically, not to set a rules foundation. He believes the text that follows that statement is the rules, and that the two-weapon fighting reference is just a helpful way to remember how the ability works. Again, I believe the opposite: that the two-weapon fighting reference sets the foundation and that the following text clarifies that foundation.

Any verdict? That actually matters because if it's not a full-attack action, I'll get no bonus attack from haste, won't be able to use Dimensional Dervish in conjunction, etc., etc.

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Two questions pertaining to my new magus:

1) I'm assuming the answer to this is "no," but if I have the maneuver mastery arcana for disarming and choose to disarm for each attack as part of my full attack, do I get iterative attacks based on the increased BAB? Again, I assume this is "no" based on the way it reads, but I figured I'd ask the internet for a second opinion.

2) Secondly, I'm using a cape of the mountebank to qualify for the dimensional feats from Ultimate Combat. There's no problem there, right? I understand that things that are "like" or "as" dimension door would seem not to qualify you for the feats, but the cape is quite explicit that you're actually just using it to cast dimension door, rather than generate a similar effect. I feel like qualifying for feats via equipment is sort of a gray area, but I haven't met a person yet who feels like belts and headbands of +2/+4/+6 stat can't help you meet the minimum requirements of feats like Weapon Finesse, Power Attack, or Two-Weapon Fighting. If stat-boost items can do it, then the cape can do it too. Plus, it seems to be the only way to make those feats usable at a relevant level.

What do people think?

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I can't find information about this anywhere. It seems to me it shouldn't work.

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I'm trying to put together some zombies to update the 3.5 summon undead spells, and in using the Pathfinder template, I couldn't help but notice that the phrasing is different with regard to the natural armour the zombies receive. In 3.5 the template increased the creature's existing natural armour, and in Pathfinder it reads as though it flat-out replaces the creature's natural armour. This is a pretty substantial nerf, and I wondered how intentional people believe it was. This isn't just a misreading of the 3.5 version either, because the statblocks in the old MM all support the increased natural armour. I feel like these zombies are all going to be terrible, despite CR, if I go by the letter of the law with Pathfinder on this one. Thoughts anyone?

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The language is really imprecise, so there's been some debate on my end, but they read to me as though they're combat-trained by default, right? I'm not talking about as an animal companion or anything, or even as a summons. Just as a regular old PC purchase, they come pre-combat trained?

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I don't want to go into too much detail, but I'm playing a summoner in a game. In-game, however, he doesn't think of himself as a summoner, he thinks of himself as a fighter descended from dragons. His eidolon is a dragon (and his closest confidant), and he has never, ever used one of his summon monster spell-like abilities, because they just don't fit the flavour of the character. Well, there's another player in the group who's playing a dread necromancer (the 3.5 class) and we (by "we," i mean, she, the GM, and I, collectively) recently decided to go ahead and update her summon undead spells to include CR-appropriate Pathfinder undead, since a lot of them are really cool. And while I was contributing to helping her with her summoning lists, it occurred to me that my summon monster ability could absolutely be in-character if we just re-flavoured it so it was a little more dragon-y. The GM consented, and now I'm off to work on authoring my own custom summons list. For low CRs, this is what I've been able to find in Pathfinder books:

CR 1: Pseudodragon (Bestiary)
CR 2: Crystal Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary 2), Faerie Dragon (Bonus Bestiary), White Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary)
CR 3: Black Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary), Brass Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary), Brine Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary 2)
CR 4: Copper Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary), Forest Drake (Bestiary 2), Green Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary), Magma Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary 2), Very Young Crystal Dragon (Bestiary 2), Very Young White Dragon (Bestiary)
C5 5: Blue Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary), Bronze Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary), Cloud Dragon Wyrmling (Bestiary 2), Flame Drake (Bestiary 2), Very Young Black Dragon (Bestiary), Very Young Brass Dragon (Bestiary), Very Young Brine Dragon (Bestiary 2)

The problem? Well, summon monster I tends toward CR 1/3 or 1/2 creatures, with summon monster II tending toward CR 1, III tending toward CR 2, and each spell level above that focusing on the next two CRs above the previous spell level (3 and 4 for IV, 5 and 6 for V, etc.). And there just aren't any dragons below CR 1, with only one dragon at CR 1.

So, what I'm asking is this: does anybody know of any templates (preferably Paizo-published, but third party is cool too) that might be appropriate for lowering the CR on some dragons to help me build summon dragon I and summon dragon II up a little? Or does anybody have any other ideas or stats that they think might be appropriate? I was thinking about stealing the celestial hawk stats and just dragonizing them a little bit if I could do so without affecting power level, etc. Any help would be appreciated, though! Thanks, guys!

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Silly question, I realize, but I have an ability that refers to hellcats going up on a wiki and I'd like to cite the page number for the most recent stats. I won't be able to own Bestiary 2 until its street date, but I'm sure I'm going to forget to go back and edit this if I just don't do it now while I'm thinking about it. Can any subscribers help me out? Thanks!

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