|AvenaOats Goblin Squad Member|
I don't believe Ryan ever understood the analogy of my arguement when I tried to explain, he was trying to create a nascar event, but was also handing out speeding tickets. It is not fun to watch a race at 40mph on a simple oval track. It is even less fun to be a driver in that event.
Yeah, there was too many different markets for the same idea, it became very confusing. Don't work off market data imo: Use gaming intuition for what works and what does not and use other tools to feedback on that "works" criteria.
I read a lot of Ramin Shokrizade's stuff. I think he's been very useful for structuring some ideas. Odd to see he's working on a new project a sort of floating islands minecraft type thing. Anyway one idea of which was:-
PvV (Player vs Victim) compared to PvP (Player vs Player).
I think therefore really you have to remove the former and work towards the latter, and more so the more the latter is a form of cooperative or social combination. In fact I think it's possible to do something with PvV but in such a way that the "victim" actually finds it rewarding! Not only that but the top PvP is massively social is the pinnacle of game play for the PvP players.
I will try to labour on with things, I'm not so good working under pressure and have too many projects on atm. A final write up would clear these ideas up.
On another note, just saw some early footage of Crowfall. It looks better graphics than PFO but it also looks like yet another old mmo, the same conventional mmorpg platform curse again. At some stage without a kind of innovation of core ideas, the appetite for playing these games I think diminishes, the experience is just too desiccated.
And on yet another note, there's another Baldur's Gate game out that looks very immersive story and world stage wise. I bet a lot of people who like PF would like that sort of thing. Probably get Paizo writers to drum up some stuff too.
But the idea I have is Kingmaker, different, but if you look at internet games I think that too could be very lucrative.