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Really? I love Pathfinder and I have been playing since 2E. Additionally love all of the rules-lite clones and run them when I can find a full group. Almost all of my friends play 3E of some type and they all seem to love the game. I don't find it "dumbed down" at all. In fact, I am not sure what that even means. Maybe because they got rid of situational modifiers for the disadvantage/advantage mechanic and rolled commonly taken feats into specializations? I happen to like those features. The few friends I have that enjoy playing rules-lite rpgs are coming back into the D&D fold after years away from it.
Given the sales figures of 5e so far I think the pricing seems about right to me.
I suppose. However, if you look at their competition I think it is about $10 too high. That isn't a huge deal. I expected it to be about $39.99. There are definitely people who are refusing to buy it because of the price though and many more opting to not purchase it at their FLGS because of the price difference with Amazon.
This is the key argument I see...people are already too invested to switch. That makes sense. My entire pathfinder collection was lost when I moved along with some other stuff that makes me want to cry in a closet so I don't mind buying these new books.
I think it is a bit unfair to suggest that they would switch editions in a few years. 4E lasted 6-7 years? That exceeds my definition of a few. Pathfinder has been out for about 5 years right? Also, a 6-7 year tenure for a game that was hated by a huge chunk of the community is not bad. I guess you are referring to 3/3.5E. I would argue thought that many consumers wanted something new. There were things that were perceived as broken with the game. It just turned out that 4E wasn't what many of them wanted and they were willing to play a game they thought was broken over that particular edition.
Well I love Pathfinder. I plan on still being a customer and playing in games and I still run a game. I just will also play in 5E and run 5E games. It isn't a religion - you can pick more than one.
I completely disagree about 2007 Deja vu. It is so different this time around. No irritating build up, no secrecy as far as the design direction and no shock. When 4E came out there was an instant backlash. I remember watching the reviews pop up on Amazon - one bad review after another. That week the youtube reviews starting coming out and they were just hostile. The community instantly reacted poorly. I recall this because I was super worried about the fact that I had just dropped all of that cash on new books. I stuck it out for just under a year and abandoned it - but I knew it wasn't a good fit for me on the first game. This time around the reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Additionally, people have been testing it for over a year. This time around seems totally different.
Of course people have the same complaints about 3.5E that they did when waiting for 4E. They are REAL problems. They didn't go away. They just weren't as bad for some people as 4E was. I have heard those same issues about 3.5E discussed for the last 10 years or so. People wanted a new edition. A great many just didn't want 4E.
Just to be clear...you are talking about 5E D&D right? Not some other game?
The entire premise of 5th Ed seems to be to dumb it down, make combat take longer, and continue to bend the curve towards martials away from casters.
Have you played 5E or read it? I am curious because I didn't get this impression when I played or read it. Additionally, combat was very fast. I played in a game last night and the speed of the combat was one of the features that stood out to me. Additionally, 5E essentially just got rid of all of the various situational modifiers and replaced them with the disadvantage/advantage system - you call that dumbed-down but I find it elegant.
Not sure what you mean here. Class flexibility, combat flexibility, spell flexibility? You aren't saying anything specific here.
This does not equal:
...they don't even have an idea of how to do a campaign guide for FR yet.
The PHB just came out. The MM is coming out soon. The DM guide is still in the works but coming out in November. When a new edition of D&D comes out does the campaign setting typically come out at the same time as the PHB? I don't remember it ever being like that. Also, I would imagine that putting together a campaign setting from already existing source material takes much less time than designing a new game. I think your statement is an overreaction.
I couldn't think of any American jokes about Americans - we need some! There are plenty of jokes about specific areas of America. I searched for some jokes about Americans but most of the ones I found were probably derived in another country. They were really funny though. I liked this one:
That is pretty much how I felt. I finished my doctorate at 33.
Josh M. wrote:
You must be playing with people who have been your friends externally to the game for some time - your tolerance is more understandable if that is the case. The people I play with I have met through gaming. The ones I have now are my friends because they weren't inconsiderate jerks who repeatedly canceled on our group - we weeded those people out.
Also, the medium for the social activity may simply be a game, however, the preparations to GM it and host it equal time and in some cases money. Additionally, the GM and other players may have had opportunities to do something else the night of the game and are now left sitting at home without plans if the game falls through.
Actually I meant replacing them using a hit man. There is a lake near my house that is full of the bodies of inconsiderate tabletop gamers :D
Ellis Mirari wrote:
Pretty much. Though I am not GMing in a store the structure is similar. I met my current group by throwing up an advert for players. I live in the DC area so there were lots of responses. We became friends through the regularly scheduled game.
Josh M. wrote:
Well I am pretty flexible about which "circumstances warrant it". However, I have allotted my very limited time to planning the session as well as turned down other social activities so that I could be available to GM. If people aren't turning up for petty reasons and potentially ruining games I would look for people who are more reliable and get rid of those who consider the game to be "something to do if nothing better comes along".
Also, I have done this with friends and we are still friends. I just tell them that I am going to replace them with someone who wants to play more frequently and maybe they can play every now and then if someone is unable to make it or I think and extra player works for that session. Typically players who are flaky aren't really devastated by losing their permanent spot.
Justin Rocket wrote:
If it is me you are referring to than I apologize for asserting that. It wasn't what I meant. You were implying that the PPACA was part of the resolution that failed Monday. We were trying to tell you that it wasn't and I mentioned that this move was unprecedented and was not a failure on the Democrats part to not negotiate. From your posts you seem to believe that the PPACA was funded through the resolution and that the house was simply removing it. I said that what the GOP was doing was unprecedented, meaning to make it clear that laws have not been defunded prior to implementation on financial resolutions that they are not part of. Looking back at it what I said was much more muddled.
Can you give an example of one that was defunded before it was implemented and failed?
Yes government programs whose cost exceeds what is available in appropriations or funds. The PPACA is funded through its own tax.
Justin Rocket wrote:
Congress already passed the PPACA. It has to be funded until it is repealed. Laws cannot be repealed by refusing to sign funding bills. Additionally, concessions and negotiations were already made 3 years ago to such an extent that Obama is criticized heavily for compromising too much with conservatives. I am sorry but you clearly just do not understand what is going on here.
Justin Rocket wrote:
So do you support creating a new legislative mechanism to repeal laws by attaching provisions to funding bills that defund what was democratically agreed upon? Regardless of how you feel about the PPACA - doesn't that strike you as undemocratic and a step in the wrong direction for your big picture goals discussed above? Imagine if it worked. The democrats will use it on the republicans. It would be chaos.
Justin Rocket wrote:
They weren't negotiating on the PPAC. It was enacted 3 years ago and became law. It has to be funded unless it can be repealed. That is the process. What is happening now, to my knowledge, has never happened before. It is a political pathway that bypasses the democratic process. It cannot be allowed to work regardless of what it is about.
Justin Rocket wrote:
But the PPACA was already enacted by both chambers of congress 3 years ago after heavy compromise from the left. There is a legislative process to challenge established laws - the Republicans have failed 41 times (I think?) to repeal the PPACA via this process. The next step would be to win future elections and to continue to challenge it.
The PPACA was not part of the spending bill. The spending bill is being used as a last attempt to stop the PPACA through unprecedented strategy based on extortion.
Damn that sucks.
Justin Rocket wrote:
I am not sure I follow this whole "both parties are to blame" rhetoric. The PPACA was enacted by congress after much compromise from both parties. The current spending bill has nothing to do with the PPACA other than the fact that some conservatives have used it as a hostage to defund the PPACA.
Yes I guess it depends on what kind of contractor you are. I am a postdoctoral researcher so things are definitely different for me.
I am a contractor at a government lab. We are still open, however, it is uncertain whether or not we will be during the duration of the shutdown - it depends on how long it is shut down. I still get paid even if I am told not to come to work (one of the few perks of being a contractor vs. government employee). I have been told that I am to work at home but I am not allowed to use my personal computer (security reasons) even though 99% of my work involves a computer. Brilliant.
Licensing. To get a license you must undergo an extensive background check that includes your mental health history and the mental health histories of those living with you. Also, it includes a criminal background check. If the automated process catches something it should be flagged and reported to a person who can decide to decline, pass, or bring in for an interview. If you are declined a detailed report should be sent to your and you should be allowed to request an appeal.
I finally got in touch with someone at the USPS Recovery center. They told me that since I was mailed the label that was on my box she was sure that the box and the books became separated (box busted open). If that was the case, the books would be grouped together and sent to the Mail Recovery Center to be processed. However, that particular department is still working on received items from June. So there is still hope that they will find my items when they get to them. It just might take awhile.
I am fairly surprised that the box busted open. The box I used was from my work and is used to ship scientific equipment with - very thick and sturdy. Additionally, I used tons of tape. The whole box was pretty much covered with tape that wrapped several times around each length. Since it was media mail I am inclined to think that they opened it to make sure that it was books and then did a s@*! job taping it back up.
I can see how you would think that. However, she plays in my group frequently. Additionally, I landed a job and we had to move in 2 weeks so we were both stressed out with all of the packing and cleaning we had to do. We have the ability to weigh packages and print labels from home so we sat there and did it together. We had a few at the end that were media mail and she just didn't click the button for insurance when we were on the last one. To be honest it was a bit my fault too because she didn't ask about the value and I didn't notice (even though she had for all the other boxes).