paizo.com Favorited Posts by Arnim Thayerpaizo.com Favorited Posts by Arnim Thayer2024-03-19T00:25:17Z2024-03-19T00:25:17ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder Second Edition: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Brave the Elements!Arnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sid2?Brave-the-Elements#392023-07-15T11:46:18Z2023-07-15T04:15:14Z<p>I am loving the subtle hints within the planar descriptions to how magic will be redefined without the current schools of magic as we move from the OGL to ORC.</p>I am loving the subtle hints within the planar descriptions to how magic will be redefined without the current schools of magic as we move from the OGL to ORC.Arnim Thayer2023-07-15T04:15:14ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder Second Edition: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Tian Xia: Coming 2023–2024!Arnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6si92&page=5?Tian-Xia-Coming-2023-2024#2192023-03-05T20:27:43Z2023-03-04T01:07:43Z<p>I have been waiting for this campaign setting since the Dragon Empires Gazetteer came out over ten years ago! And we are getting TWO BOOKS? Fantastic! I can't wait to see what there two hold!</p>I have been waiting for this campaign setting since the Dragon Empires Gazetteer came out over ten years ago! And we are getting TWO BOOKS? Fantastic! I can't wait to see what there two hold!Arnim Thayer2023-03-04T01:07:43ZRe: Forums: Starfinder Society: Paizo Blog: Ehu Hadif’s Mandate Fulfilled! First Seeker Elections On The Horizon!Arnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6si69?Ehu-Hadif-s-Mandate-Fulfilled-First-Seeker#252022-11-07T19:52:17Z2022-10-28T20:32:28Z<p>I wish this was something that could be considered for Pathfinder Society play. There are a lot of players from 1E with the Venture Captain boon, following completion of Eyes of the Ten. It would be nice to see those characters make it into official cannon.</p>I wish this was something that could be considered for Pathfinder Society play. There are a lot of players from 1E with the Venture Captain boon, following completion of Eyes of the Ten. It would be nice to see those characters make it into official cannon.Arnim Thayer2022-10-28T20:32:28ZRe: Forums/Rage of Elements Playtest: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Kineticist Playtest AnalysisArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6si5l?Kineticist-Playtest-Analysis#62023-02-01T10:15:13Z2022-10-05T21:19:33Z<p>I find it amazing the amount of insight you garnered from such a limited playtest. It looks like the new 2E Kineticist will be more streamlined than its predecessor, and that means more fun/less bookkeeping. To me, that is the right path to take!</p>I find it amazing the amount of insight you garnered from such a limited playtest. It looks like the new 2E Kineticist will be more streamlined than its predecessor, and that means more fun/less bookkeeping. To me, that is the right path to take!Arnim Thayer2022-10-05T21:19:33ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: What a Long, Strange Trip It’s BeenArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6si4u?What-a-Long-Strange-Trip-It-s-Been#262022-09-07T19:52:21Z2022-09-02T21:45:01Z<p>For all you have done, thank you Lisa! Enjoy your retirement... you have more than earned it!</p>For all you have done, thank you Lisa! Enjoy your retirement... you have more than earned it!Arnim Thayer2022-09-02T21:45:01ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Paizo Blog: Pathfinder Society Year 4 Rule UpdatesArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6si35?Pathfinder-Society-Year-4-Rule-Updates#92022-07-08T19:08:36Z2022-06-30T23:48:53Z<p>I don't know which of these announcements I'm more excited about, the reduction in AcP cost for those three Ancestries, or the new Backgrounds!</p>
<p>I'm loving that these new Uncommon Backgrounds are tied to Season 3 events and storylines, and hope that we will see more adventures from those Venture-Captains/lodges/allies in the future, making that "kicker bonus" more worthwhile in Season 4 and many more to come!</p>I don't know which of these announcements I'm more excited about, the reduction in AcP cost for those three Ancestries, or the new Backgrounds!
I'm loving that these new Uncommon Backgrounds are tied to Season 3 events and storylines, and hope that we will see more adventures from those Venture-Captains/lodges/allies in the future, making that "kicker bonus" more worthwhile in Season 4 and many more to come!Arnim Thayer2022-06-30T23:48:53ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder Second Edition: General Discussion: Treasure Vault Hype and Guessing!Arnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs43mia&page=2?Treasure-Vault-Hype-and-Guessing#682022-06-01T13:19:50Z2022-06-01T02:45:39Z<p>I'm hoping we see the return of Throwing Shields... Captain Andoran needs to exist in PF2.</p>I'm hoping we see the return of Throwing Shields... Captain Andoran needs to exist in PF2.Arnim Thayer2022-06-01T02:45:39ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Staff Change Update from Paizo President Jeff AlvarezArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs43h04&page=20?Staff-Change-Update-from-Paizo-President-Jeff#9972021-09-21T15:18:19Z2021-09-18T12:16:44Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">zeonsghost wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Ripley Riley wrote:</div><blockquote> Better plan would have been to remain silent. Let the internet rage machine tire itself out. Twitter will move on to the next nontroversy in a week. </blockquote><p>Sure, if you think Paizo has the attention of the greater whole of Twitter discourse. I'd bet my bookshelf nobody outside of Paizo fans and maybe some of the larger TTRPG community has even heard about it, much less cares. Most of the D&D community seems tied up in some Critical Role thing. So outside of here, a couple of hashtags, and a handful of discords, nobody cares.
<p>It follows that every sub cancellation is lost money that was guaranteed direct sales. Every lost PFS GM represents lost sales in scenarios, maps, minis, books, and the good will built by engaged GMs. Every beloved employee or freelancer is talent that at best represents lost production value and passion. Every content creator who doesn't wanted to be associated with the brand after silence in the face of multiple accusations is a huge loss in free advertising. </p>
<p>Good will is hard to earn, harder to keep. Silence just confirms that everything damning thing was true to their strongest supporters. </blockquote><p>Considering that the first I heard of this was from a university student who isnt a gamer, I think it is naive to think only Paizo customers are concerned about this. It was a point of discussion in a class about publishing.zeonsghost wrote:Ripley Riley wrote: Better plan would have been to remain silent. Let the internet rage machine tire itself out. Twitter will move on to the next nontroversy in a week.
Sure, if you think Paizo has the attention of the greater whole of Twitter discourse. I'd bet my bookshelf nobody outside of Paizo fans and maybe some of the larger TTRPG community has even heard about it, much less cares. Most of the D&D community seems tied up in some Critical Role thing. So outside of...Arnim Thayer2021-09-18T12:16:44ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder Second Edition: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Save the Date for a New Pathfinder Class Playtest!Arnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6shsb&page=2?Save-the-Date-for-a-New-Pathfinder-Class#722021-08-26T03:29:28Z2021-08-24T02:10:02Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">keftiu wrote:</div><blockquote> I also do think there’s a slim chance it’s a genre book, rather than a setting element, because I can see a horror supplement with Inquisitor (for monster-hunting) and Occultist (for delving into terrible secrets) as the new classes. </blockquote><p>While everyone else is clamoring for another themed book, I still have high hopes that we will finally see a comprehensive source book for the Tian Xi region, complete with a 2E archetype for the Kensai, Samurai, Ninja, and Wujen. The success of the Mwangi Expanse hardcover further bolstered that hope. I doubt this is going to be that book though.keftiu wrote:I also do think there’s a slim chance it’s a genre book, rather than a setting element, because I can see a horror supplement with Inquisitor (for monster-hunting) and Occultist (for delving into terrible secrets) as the new classes.
While everyone else is clamoring for another themed book, I still have high hopes that we will finally see a comprehensive source book for the Tian Xi region, complete with a 2E archetype for the Kensai, Samurai, Ninja, and Wujen. The success of the...Arnim Thayer2021-08-24T02:10:02ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Paizo Blog: The Growing Pathfinder SocietyArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6shqo?The-Growing-Pathfinder-Society#212021-07-17T09:40:18Z2021-07-16T00:20:21Z<p>I'm liking all of these changes. I just wish we would see a similar AcP pricing change for Tengu. According to canon, they are found pretty much throughout Golarion. To me, that justifies (at the very least) a reduction.</p>
<p>With the success of the Mwangi Expanse book, my hopes are raised that we will finally see a comprehensive Tian-Xi campaign setting... and the return of the Wayang and Nagaji, since Kitsune have already been covered in The Lost Omens Ancestry Guide!</p>I'm liking all of these changes. I just wish we would see a similar AcP pricing change for Tengu. According to canon, they are found pretty much throughout Golarion. To me, that justifies (at the very least) a reduction.
With the success of the Mwangi Expanse book, my hopes are raised that we will finally see a comprehensive Tian-Xi campaign setting... and the return of the Wayang and Nagaji, since Kitsune have already been covered in The Lost Omens Ancestry Guide!Arnim Thayer2021-07-16T00:20:21ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Community Blog: Autism AwarenessArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6shnf?Community-Blog-Autism-Awareness#202021-05-04T21:48:08Z2021-05-02T04:11:29Z<p>As the father of one child with high-functioning autism and another with oppositional-defiance disorder, I can attest to the positive impact a tabletop roleplaying game can have for someone with neurodiversity. Both of my children have benefited from playing Pathfinder, learning how to communicate with others acceptably, as well as other social cues that are often far more difficult for those within the spectrum. </p>
<p>Thank you for letting me know that there is an organization dedicated to utilizing tabletop games to help others find acceptance within our greater community!</p>As the father of one child with high-functioning autism and another with oppositional-defiance disorder, I can attest to the positive impact a tabletop roleplaying game can have for someone with neurodiversity. Both of my children have benefited from playing Pathfinder, learning how to communicate with others acceptably, as well as other social cues that are often far more difficult for those within the spectrum.
Thank you for letting me know that there is an organization dedicated to...Arnim Thayer2021-05-02T04:11:29ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder Second Edition: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Society Writ LargeArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sheo?Society-Writ-Large#112020-10-21T03:43:43Z2020-10-06T22:53:17Z<p>I am so looking forward to the release of this book... and for the sanctioning of it's content for organized play! This hardcover has been a goal for many years, and PF2 is the right edition to finally see it released!</p>I am so looking forward to the release of this book... and for the sanctioning of it's content for organized play! This hardcover has been a goal for many years, and PF2 is the right edition to finally see it released!Arnim Thayer2020-10-06T22:53:17ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Paizo Blog: Character Options for Pathfinder Society and Guide UpdatesArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6shbu?Character-Options-for-Pathfinder-Society-and#92020-08-03T20:51:04Z2020-07-30T23:16:57Z<p>Will the newest versions of the Guides be available as a pdf again? Looking at the Second Edition Guide in particular.</p>Will the newest versions of the Guides be available as a pdf again? Looking at the Second Edition Guide in particular.Arnim Thayer2020-07-30T23:16:57ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Paizo Blog: The Scales of FateArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6shaf?The-Scales-of-Fate#472020-07-15T17:11:39Z2020-07-10T01:14:05Z<p>•Straight out jaw drop•</p>
<p>That is the best news I've heard since the release of 2E! I was... not a fan of Goblins becoming a Core race. I felt it was a hard transition from the "burn everything/murder midgets" of past canon to them being a semi-civilized race. I campaigned early on for Kobolds to be that new race instead, citing how they have had positive interactions with other races in known history (the Sewer Dragons being among them). Alas, Goblins won out... and as the unofficial mascot of Paizo, I understood. I fully expected Kobolds to be released as a playable race, but I also figured we would have to earn that right, much like we will for those found in other source books.</p>
<p>I am pleasantly surprised! This is a GREAT move!</p>*Straight out jaw drop*
That is the best news I've heard since the release of 2E! I was... not a fan of Goblins becoming a Core race. I felt it was a hard transition from the "burn everything/murder midgets" of past canon to them being a semi-civilized race. I campaigned early on for Kobolds to be that new race instead, citing how they have had positive interactions with other races in known history (the Sewer Dragons being among them). Alas, Goblins won out... and as the unofficial mascot...Arnim Thayer2020-07-10T01:14:05ZRe: Forums: Paizo Products: Paizo Blog: iPathfinder Beginner Box/i Announced for NovemberArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sh5f?Pathfinder-Beginner-Box-Announced-for-November#302020-03-23T16:44:27Z2020-03-23T16:42:09Z<p>I'll post here what I did on Facebook when Know Direction announced this:</p>
<p>"My biggest question for Paizo's Beginner's Box products has always been "Why the delay?" It seems like a product like this could really help skyrocket the sales of the line, especially at the beginning of that product line. Personally, the long delay for the Starfinder Beginner's Box made me less inclined to buy it... and without it, I was less invested in the Starfinder RPG altogether. Products like these are the gateway drug for tabletop RPGs; they should be at the forefront of the line!"</p>I'll post here what I did on Facebook when Know Direction announced this:
"My biggest question for Paizo's Beginner's Box products has always been "Why the delay?" It seems like a product like this could really help skyrocket the sales of the line, especially at the beginning of that product line. Personally, the long delay for the Starfinder Beginner's Box made me less inclined to buy it... and without it, I was less invested in the Starfinder RPG altogether. Products like these are the...Arnim Thayer2020-03-23T16:42:09ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Lost Omen Guide PF2Arnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42v42&page=2?Lost-Omen-Guide-PF2#672020-01-11T15:29:55Z2019-12-24T00:45:15Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tonya Woldridge wrote:</div><blockquote> ...answered about the difficulties the OPF/Paizo separation has created in broad strokes... </blockquote><p>I, for one, would much prefer the pdf of the Guide revert back to being produced by Paizo. While the website is fine, it is hardly intuitive to peruse, and is significantly difficult to search through. It was a good stop-gate answer at the time, but it needs to come back to Paizo for a couple of reasons.
<p>1) Official Production: The PFS Guide being produced by Paizo makes it feels more "official." While I appreciate the hard work that some of the VOs have put into creating a printable version, it is still rife with errors and artifacts of having been lifted from the website. These are errors that would (hopefully) not exist in an official pdf version, having gone through an extensive developer overlook before passing. Most importantly though, it lacks the style and feel of Paizo products. This has the effect of...</p>
<p>2) Professional Presentation: The Guide is the first look at PFS that some players get. They don't buy scenarios. If they are solely players, they have no need for the Bestiary. And with the delay of sanctioning of the Lost Omens line, they have no burning need to purchase other 2nd Edition products either. The Core Rulebook is really all they need. Again, a lot of hard work has been put into creating a printable version, but (for legal reasons) it lacks the design qualities we have grown to expect from the PFS Guides previous. Because of that, it looks... cheap (no offense meant) by comparison. </p>
<p>I understand that the workforce on PFS has been hit hard, and the lose of your webmaster has hurt as well. Because of this, I can see that producing a pdf wasn't as much of a priority as just getting the info out. If possible, this needs to be addressed as the team rebuilds and regrows. Having a link at the OPF website is fine (it's working for PF1 and Starfinder!), but ultimately, I'd like to see an "official" Guide... and have it hosted by Paizo once again.</p>Tonya Woldridge wrote:...answered about the difficulties the OPF/Paizo separation has created in broad strokes...
I, for one, would much prefer the pdf of the Guide revert back to being produced by Paizo. While the website is fine, it is hardly intuitive to peruse, and is significantly difficult to search through. It was a good stop-gate answer at the time, but it needs to come back to Paizo for a couple of reasons. 1) Official Production: The PFS Guide being produced by Paizo makes it feels...Arnim Thayer2019-12-24T00:45:15ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Lost Omen Guide PF2Arnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42v42?Lost-Omen-Guide-PF2#182020-01-09T16:38:00Z2019-12-14T01:52:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lau Bannenberg wrote:</div><blockquote><p> @Michael, I'm not questioning your motives, but I'm not convinced of your methods.</p>
<p>I get that there have been technical difficulties getting AcP to work. But aren't you guys letting the perfect be the enemy of the good?</p>
<p><b>Instead of waiting until you had the infrastructure for enabling some uncommon options, you could have already said "well, the uncommon is coming Soon™, but the common options from LOWG and LOCG we can enable right now".</b></p>
<p>Put together with Starfinder which hasn't had an AR update in a <i>year</i>, and it starts to look like you're betting on one ginormous update. But we'd be pretty happy if we had a small manageable update every other month. </blockquote><p>This actually sounds like a fair compromise. It fulfills the need for new sanctioned content without having to wait on the initiation of the AcP.
<p>Like others have reported, the PF2 is slowly losing steam. Not because they have exhausted scenarios or the options of the new CRB, but because some of the options in the Lost Omens sources are <i>so damn GOOD!</i> Players are used to having their toys and are spoiled by the previous iteration of PFS. Throw us a bone. As I've been saying for months: help US help YOU!</p>Lau Bannenberg wrote:@Michael, I'm not questioning your motives, but I'm not convinced of your methods.
I get that there have been technical difficulties getting AcP to work. But aren't you guys letting the perfect be the enemy of the good?
Instead of waiting until you had the infrastructure for enabling some uncommon options, you could have already said "well, the uncommon is coming Soon™, but the common options from LOWG and LOCG we can enable right now".
Put together with Starfinder...Arnim Thayer2019-12-14T01:52:29ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: T-Shirts, Sweatshirts, Hoodies and More!Arnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sh02?TShirts-Sweatshirts-Hoodies-and-More#292019-11-06T17:06:25Z2019-11-06T03:06:39Z<p>We need hats! Baseball caps, to be exact!</p>
<p>(Hats the otyugh approves this message)</p>We need hats! Baseball caps, to be exact!
(Hats the otyugh approves this message)Arnim Thayer2019-11-06T03:06:39ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: PDF pricing and PFSArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42rmq&page=2?PDF-pricing-and-PFS#522019-09-18T02:03:27Z2019-09-18T00:48:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Donovan Du Bois wrote:</div><blockquote>... a lot of relevant things articulately... </blockquote><p>I feel your pain, my friend. This subject has been discussed in another thread <a href="https://paizo.com/threads/rzs42quz&page=3?On-PDF-pricing#148" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> HERE</a> with varying levels of success and far more vitriol. Quite a few of the PFS player base in my region have decided to not purchase the Lost Omens World Guide based on what they perceive as a "poor price for value." Regardless of whether the merging of the two lines will save money in the long run (which is up for debate), they have expressed their opinions that this merging takes away some degree of agency in their purchases. Before, a person who was merely a player could choose the Companion line, and even avoid those issues they felt they would never use. Likewise, A GM could purchase only those Campaign Setting books pertinent to the game they were running. Now, we have an "all or nothing" option, one that comes quarterly for the foreseeable future (as Vic Wertz has confirmed) that encompasses both lines.
<p>To be completely fair, most of my players were more distressed by the pdf price, which we now know is based off of a percentage of the cover price. They rely on digital product, since it is more convenient for portable play, such as conventions and game days. It is a product that only Paizo benefits from the sale of; no one else had authority or access to sell Pathfinder or Starfinder pdfs.</p>
<p>I've expressed multiple times the opinions of my constituents. Many people at Paizo have responded (notably Sara Marie, Michael Sayre, and Vic Wertz) with insight into the industry in general and the process of pricing in particular. While I have no idea how wide-spread the decisions Paizo has made will impact Pathfinder Society play worldwide, I can share how it has impacted the microcosm of my own region. Some are willing to give Paizo benefit of the doubt. But far more are expressing content with just continuing playing PFS with Pathfinder 1st Edition until they run out of material.</p>Donovan Du Bois wrote:... a lot of relevant things articulately...
I feel your pain, my friend. This subject has been discussed in another thread HERE with varying levels of success and far more vitriol. Quite a few of the PFS player base in my region have decided to not purchase the Lost Omens World Guide based on what they perceive as a "poor price for value." Regardless of whether the merging of the two lines will save money in the long run (which is up for debate), they have expressed...Arnim Thayer2019-09-18T00:48:40ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: On PDF pricingArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42quz&page=3?On-PDF-pricing#1482019-09-13T16:37:58Z2019-09-13T05:42:52Z<p>Wow! I leave this thread for a few days and it explodes!</p>
<p>I'm not going to argue that the print price of this book is too high; I concede that I do not know enough about the overall cost of producing a book such as this to make that judgment call. As others have pointed out, the cost for the pdf of this book is set by a (rough) consistent percentage of the actual cost of a physical copy. I've given other industry comparisons, and admit unarguably that Paizo cannot compete in same price range with 5E Dungeons & Dragons, simply because Hasbro can afford to take the hit in much that same way that Walmart does: they can spread the lose to other departments if necessary. Paizo is a much smaller company. They are the #2 tabletop RPG publishing company in the world presently, but the gap between them and the #1 RPG publisher is fairly huge... and they have years of branding to help them. In short, I'm not going to tip my lance at this particular windmill anymore.</p>
<p>Yes, in the publishing industry the terms "sold out" can consider a number of factors. The largest one that creates a false impression of popularity/scarcity is "purposely underprinting." The comics industry does this a lot, especially after the devastating effect of "overprinting" in the 90's.I have enough faith in Paizo however to believe they wouldn't resort to such a tactic. Because of this, I give congratulations to you on selling out on this newest of tomes! You have earned it!</p>
<p>I do implore Paizo to take a look at the effect this could have on the organized play community, a community that is <b>required</b> to own the appropriate source material to use options provided. I also ask that they stay committed to their announced printing schedule of "one per quarter" to help belay the lose of the easily affordable Companion line. As I've said before, I don't know what the solution is. I've just reported the problem, that perceived problem being that the pdf price seems comparatively too high to my local/regional player base. It is up to Paizo to find that balance that pleases their digital customers and their own financial needs.</p>
<p>Of note: I noticed that the 5E D&D Starter box comes with a unique coupon code that gives a discount on buying the digital Player's Handbook. Could something like this be considered, a discount given for purchasing a physical copy? Just a thought.</p>Wow! I leave this thread for a few days and it explodes!
I'm not going to argue that the print price of this book is too high; I concede that I do not know enough about the overall cost of producing a book such as this to make that judgment call. As others have pointed out, the cost for the pdf of this book is set by a (rough) consistent percentage of the actual cost of a physical copy. I've given other industry comparisons, and admit unarguably that Paizo cannot compete in same price range...Arnim Thayer2019-09-13T05:42:52ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: On PDF pricingArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42quz&page=3?On-PDF-pricing#1112019-09-05T05:49:06Z2019-09-05T00:37:27Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Steve Geddes wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Arnim Thayer wrote:</div><blockquote>...many Venture Lieutenants and Venture Agents feel compelled to purchase products to stay "up to date." While the requirement puts the onus of providing proof of game mechanics onto the player, a large majority of the VOs like to understand these in advance of being blind-sided with the latest feat, equipment or archetype at their table. Perhaps even more so than your average casual player, these VOs are the target audience for those pdfs. </blockquote><p>Repeating my confession of PFS ignorance above, I don’t understand this bit.
<p>If you felt compelled to buy these to “keep up” hasn’t your cost/year gone down? The Lost Omens subscription is going to work out cheaper than the Player Companion subscription was, isn’t it? (And definitely cheaper for those who were getting both the player companions and campaign setting books).</p>
<p>I can see why players who only bought one or two companions over the course of a few years might feel like the price has gone up, but if you’re a “get everything” person, my calculation has been that the overall cost of collecting is now less. </blockquote><p>In the past, GMs and VOs could keep up with the amount of content through two methods: 1) cherrypicking, or 2) the extremely affordable nature of the pdfs. In the first, it came down to content. If you never run a scenario in Kaer Maga, there is little need to purchase the Campaign Setting book detailing it. And on the rare chance you do, you can either purchase that sourcebook (in either physical or digital form) or do a web search and see whaat information you find. The latter might produce a workable knowledge of the region, but purchasing the sourcebook allows the GM in inject a little more detail, scoured from the pages of Paizo’s impressive writing. In the second method, a GM/VO can have an much more portable copy of the exact source material at their finger tips, trading in pounds of pages for a far more accessible digital format. When it came to soft-bound books, sometimes having that physical copy made sense. I mean, how often is Kaer Maga going to come up? And besides, it supports Paizo. With the hardcovers however, portability is king. Looking to my right, I have over 25 tomes of Pathfinder rules; it would be ridiculous to think I would haul all of those to a convention or game day, just to insure I have every possible source for every possible mechanic that might show up at my table. Yes, the burden of that is on the players to present—far too often, they are relying on HeroLab or Archives of Nethys, places where shorthand for those mechanics leave a lot to be interpreted by the reader.
<p>Honestly, the cost of the hardcovers isn’t the big issue to my constituents: It’s the cost of the pdfs. And since the cost of the pdfs is directly derived from the print cost, it becomes an issue only because of that impact. Vic Wertz is right to point out that printing costs and volume have impact on deciding that final price as well. While Paizo has a educated guest as to their target sales projections and potential audience, every print run is a risk. My players have let me know they aren’t sure this new price model is for them. I’m only presenting the perspective brought to me because I don’t want Paizo to fail. </p>
<p>Again, I appreciate everyone who has been civil in this conversation, asking questions of viewpoints they don’t understand without passing judgement first. I also appreciate the responses from Mr. Wertz who has takenthe time to address this issue within this thread.. I hope that he understands that we both want the best for Paizo: continued success!</p>Steve Geddes wrote:Arnim Thayer wrote:...many Venture Lieutenants and Venture Agents feel compelled to purchase products to stay "up to date." While the requirement puts the onus of providing proof of game mechanics onto the player, a large majority of the VOs like to understand these in advance of being blind-sided with the latest feat, equipment or archetype at their table. Perhaps even more so than your average casual player, these VOs are the target audience for those pdfs.
Repeating my...Arnim Thayer2019-09-05T00:37:27ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: On PDF pricingArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42quz&page=3?On-PDF-pricing#1082019-09-06T16:45:46Z2019-09-04T17:02:58Z<p>As an aside, I just visited my local gaming store and did some comparisons of other products from industry competitors. </p>
<p><b>Troll Lords Games</b>
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The Book of Familiars - $29.99 - 208 pages - Cost? $.14 per page
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Player’s Handbook - $29.99 142 pages - Cost? $.21 per page
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Monsters and Treasures - $19.99 - 128 pages - Cost? $.16 per page</p>
<p><b>From WotC:</b>
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Ghosts of Saltmarsh - $39.99 - 256 pages - Cost? $.16 per page
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Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes - $39.99 - 256 pages - Cost? $.16 per page</p>
<p>The Lost Omen’s World Guide falls in comparison more with the books that WotC produces than those of other companies, having full color art and hardcover print runs. And yes, I’ve stated previously that Hasbro has the money to take a lose on the D&D brand while practically printing money with the cardboard crack that is Magic: the Gathering. But nether of them are coming close to the $.25 per page that Paizo is asking for each entry in the Lost Omens line.</p>
<p>If the goal is to stay within reasonable reach of their competitors, then an adjusted price point would better reflect that.</p>As an aside, I just visited my local gaming store and did some comparisons of other products from industry competitors.
Troll Lords Games
The Book of Familiars - $29.99 - 208 pages - Cost? $.14 per page
Player’s Handbook - $29.99 142 pages - Cost? $.21 per page
Monsters and Treasures - $19.99 - 128 pages - Cost? $.16 per page
From WotC:
Ghosts of Saltmarsh - $39.99 - 256 pages - Cost? $.16 per page
Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes - $39.99 - 256 pages - Cost? $.16 per page
The Lost Omen’s World...Arnim Thayer2019-09-04T17:02:58ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: On PDF pricingArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42quz&page=3?On-PDF-pricing#1052019-09-04T21:46:47Z2019-09-04T00:31:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Vic Wertz wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Arnim Thayer wrote:</div><blockquote> Of equal interest (and chagrin) is that the new Lost Omen Campaign line is quarterly—for now. But the Companion line and Campaign Setting line were once bi-monthly. Will Paizo commit to that quarterly schedule? </blockquote>There are currently four books scheduled in the Lost Omens line in 2020. It's too early to say anything for sure for 2021, but I don't expect that pace to change. </blockquote><p>Thank you as well, Mr. Wertz, for taking time to respond. I appreciate that comment of commitment to the quarterly schedule model of sales for the foreseeable future.
<p>Please understand that my perspective comes from a place of well-meaning concern. I want Paizo to succeed. And I am seriously impressed with what Jason, Michael, and the others have developed with Pathfinder Second Edition. I’d like to see Paizo continue in it’s success for ANOTHER decade or more! </p>
<p>Unlike WotC, Pathfinder can’t hide behind the money of a big parent company, taking a lose in one line such as the D&D brand while raking in the profits from Magic: the Gathering. It’s David to their Goliath... and I always root for the underdog. Standing up to Goliath in this case means listening to your customer base, in much the same as I am to my player base. And the core of my player base are Pathfinder Society Players who are rightfully concerned about the pdf pricing of this new line. This is something that only Paizo can address and an issue that can not be addressed if no one expresses that concern.</p>
<p>I am reminded of one of the pieces of advice I give my children: If you never ask, the answer is always “No.”</p>Vic Wertz wrote:Arnim Thayer wrote: Of equal interest (and chagrin) is that the new Lost Omen Campaign line is quarterly—for now. But the Companion line and Campaign Setting line were once bi-monthly. Will Paizo commit to that quarterly schedule?
There are currently four books scheduled in the Lost Omens line in 2020. It's too early to say anything for sure for 2021, but I don't expect that pace to change. Thank you as well, Mr. Wertz, for taking time to respond. I appreciate that comment of...Arnim Thayer2019-09-04T00:31:26ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: On PDF pricingArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42quz&page=2?On-PDF-pricing#992019-09-05T05:31:02Z2019-09-03T04:50:05Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Steve Geddes wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I don't play PFS so have no baseline, but what did the average• player tend to buy?</p>
<p>It seems to me that the new approach means things aren't as modular as they used to be, in that you can't break them into thirty two page chunks anymore, but those who used to buy a lot of companions will actually end up getting more content per dollar with each 128 page-ish hardcover.</p>
<p>Was it common to just own the CRB and one or two Player companions, maybe? I could see someone balking at that, if that was their past habit. </blockquote><p>Yes. It was absolutely common for players to only purchase what was needed for their character build. For some, that might be the CRB and a few Companions. For others, it might mean the whole library of products. And without that “modular” feel to the line, it’s a much harder sell now.
<p>I understand the math, about how the balance point of the page count works in the favor of the players now overall. But while you are looking at the total amount of mechanic content in LOWG, those same players are only looking at the page count and seeing it as a mere 22 pages of material they will use. Comparative to your normal Companion book, that comes across as a lose—and the rest of the page content of the 160 page hardcover are irrelevant. Of equal interest (and chagrin) is that the new Lost Omen Campaign line is quarterly—for now. But the Companion line and Campaign Setting line were once bi-monthly. Will Paizo commit to that quarterly schedule? The answer is “No” and good business says that is understandable. If the demand for more content is there, then they would be silly to not amp up their production... as they did in the past with the two lines this one is replacing.</p>
<p>I’m not trying to say that Paizo is cheating anyone—far from it! I’m just acting as the voice of my constituents and expressing their perspective. And to them, the new pdf price point seems too high.</p>Steve Geddes wrote:I don't play PFS so have no baseline, but what did the average* player tend to buy?
It seems to me that the new approach means things aren't as modular as they used to be, in that you can't break them into thirty two page chunks anymore, but those who used to buy a lot of companions will actually end up getting more content per dollar with each 128 page-ish hardcover.
Was it common to just own the CRB and one or two Player companions, maybe? I could see someone balking at...Arnim Thayer2019-09-03T04:50:05ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: On PDF pricingArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42quz&page=2?On-PDF-pricing#902019-09-03T16:01:35Z2019-09-02T01:42:44Z<p>I want to thank <a href="https://paizo.com/people/MichaelSayre" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Michael Sayre</a> for addressing things from the Paizo side of things. I also want to personally thank both <a href="https://paizo.com/people/TriOmegaZero" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">TriOmegaZero</a> and <a href="https://paizo.com/people/Joana" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Joana</a> for keeping focus on my main point. Much appreciated.</p>
<p>My main concern is primarily 1) how this impacts PFS, and 2) how this will effect overall sales, in that order. I don't think Mr. Sayre is being dismissive when saying "Playing Pathfinder Society is it's own reward." I do however think it is short-sighted and ignores how much impact Pathfinder Society Organized Play impacts those sales.</p>
<p>In my area, 5E D&D is still king: it has brand recognition, bolstered by being nostalgically featured (albeit, in its original form) in Netflix's <i>Stranger things</i>. Pathfinder has stood its ground for the last 11 years mainly through the thrust of its sponsored organized play. In my time as a coordinator, I've seen certain lines (such as the <i>Companion</i> line) sell out in the first week it is released... with a second run likewise selling out when content is sanctioned from it. As the mass of source books reached critical, players increasingly turned to digital and found the prices to be comparable and affordable, especially for those backbreaking, hardcover books. Because they were so affordable, most <b>STILL</b> purchased "dead tree" versions of those books; they just didn't see the need to cart them to game stores. </p>
<p>Pathfinder Second Edition is an absolutely stunning system! AS a former silent detractor, that in itself is a huge compliment. I want it and Paizo to succeed and produce many more books for years to come. But the price point for these 130-160 page books gives even veteran players pause. And when the pdfs are equally daunting in price, they will start looking elsewhere. No amount of free tidbits on a Chronicle sheet will bring them back if they feel slighted or "gouged" by those prices. </p>
<p>Arguably, Paizo sets the price for their print books comparative to competitors. Whether those prices seem fair or equable is an argument with room for debate. However, Paizo makes 100% of the pdf sales—pure profit. There is no competitive market for these products; no one else can sell them. And yes, setting that price too low could impact the print sales negatively. Why would you by a hardcover in print if it is considerably cheaper in a preferable digital form? And therein lies the problem: for most of the modern Pathfinder PFS players, digital <b>IS</b> that preferred form. We are already conditioned to expect future rules blat and the need to convert to a convention-friendly format. We <b>KNOW</b> that it is required to own the product to us it in organized play.</p>
<p>Already, I am getting feedback from my players (and some of my VOs!) that they will be unable to continue playing PFS with Pathfinder Second Edition if the current pricing persists. They are finding the content-to-price value too high to high to consider. And with 11 years of previous PFS content for Pathfinder 1st Edition, they can afford to let their wallets speak their discontent by not buying anything until they feel an adjustment has been made. I am speaking only of my own region, but I can't be alone in this concern.</p>
<p>I ask of you Mr. Sayre to please address this with persons such as Erik Mona (who I know is a huge proponent for organized play) and see if a solution can be made. I don't want Pathfinder Second Edition to fail... but it could, simple because of a perceived disproportionate difference in its pricing model.</p>I want to thank Michael Sayre for addressing things from the Paizo side of things. I also want to personally thank both TriOmegaZero and Joana for keeping focus on my main point. Much appreciated.
My main concern is primarily 1) how this impacts PFS, and 2) how this will effect overall sales, in that order. I don't think Mr. Sayre is being dismissive when saying "Playing Pathfinder Society is it's own reward." I do however think it is short-sighted and ignores how much impact Pathfinder...Arnim Thayer2019-09-02T01:42:44ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Lost Omens: Character GuideArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/products/btq01zt4/discuss&page=3?Pathfinder-Lost-Omens-Character-Guide#1362019-10-08T20:40:40Z2019-09-02T00:33:10Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Luis Loza wrote:</div><blockquote><p> We've confirmed that the only new ancestries in this book are hobgoblins, leshies, and lizardfolk. There may be a spot for drow in a future book in the Lost Omens line or in a future rulebook, but there are no current plans for that. </p>
<p>We're trying to get everyone's favorite ancestries into second edition as quickly as possible, but that will be an ongoing process for a while. Let us know what ancestries you want to see and we'll do our best to get them in as soon as we can! </blockquote><p>Then where is my Grippli?Luis Loza wrote:We've confirmed that the only new ancestries in this book are hobgoblins, leshies, and lizardfolk. There may be a spot for drow in a future book in the Lost Omens line or in a future rulebook, but there are no current plans for that.
We're trying to get everyone's favorite ancestries into second edition as quickly as possible, but that will be an ongoing process for a while. Let us know what ancestries you want to see and we'll do our best to get them in as soon as we can!
...Arnim Thayer2019-09-02T00:33:10ZRe: Forums: Lost Omens Products: Paizo Blog: Love 'Em Or Leaf 'EmArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sgwj&page=2?Love-Em-Or-Leaf-Em#512019-09-05T18:22:02Z2019-08-31T22:43:39Z<p>I’m surprised that Leshy were chosen over Ghoran. In the past, Leshy were associated with druids, often as a plant-based replacement for animal companions, so I’m sure my perspective is skewed. Having just run PFS 7-05 School of Spirits, I would have loved to have seen them opened up, especially this early into the development of PF2. So much lore to explore!</p>I’m surprised that Leshy were chosen over Ghoran. In the past, Leshy were associated with druids, often as a plant-based replacement for animal companions, so I’m sure my perspective is skewed. Having just run PFS 7-05 School of Spirits, I would have loved to have seen them opened up, especially this early into the development of PF2. So much lore to explore!Arnim Thayer2019-08-31T22:43:39ZRe: Forums/Paizo: General Discussion: On PDF pricingArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42quz?On-PDF-pricing#502019-09-12T21:12:31Z2019-08-31T13:30:00Z<p>First off, thanks for moving this to another thread as requested by Paizo’s customer service. Hopefully this will not be ignored simply for being moved off of the product page discussion. Since Joanna was nice enough to repost my own opinion toward the top of this discussion, let me chime in further. </p>
<p>I was extremely skeptical of Pathfinder Second Edition. The play test left me concerned about the future of Paizo, much like D&D 4E did to those diehard players. It seemed to be change for changes sake, with no clear unifying idea behind the design except what NOT to do. I was considering dropping out of Pathfinder altogether, the newest edition giving me an excuse to leave... and that’s a terrible thing for a Pathfinder Society Venture Captain to admit after playing, supporting and yes, shilling for Paizo and Pathfinder for over 10 years. And I wasn’t alone. While I kept my personal feelings private, putting on a brave face and cheerleading in my region, most of my players expressed the same discontent. Then the final reduction released.</p>
<p>Locally, we ran a intro event that combined playing through a Quest with pregenerated characters followed by a character creation session. The response was overwhelmingly positive. My local store sold out of CRBs in the first day, and turned around and sold 6 more within a week. They sold almost as many copies of the Bestiary; not a single person complained about price or quality of the books, though most of them noted that they might have to resort to buying digital copies of future books to save their backs. All of this background provides context for why I made my original post.</p>
<p>I number of my players are balking at buying the new World Guide. Anticipating the same level of excitement for that hardcover, the owner of my FLGS purchased an initial order of 10 of these, less than half of what he ordered for the CRB, but not knowing how well they would move, he considered that a conservative number. Of those, he has only one guaranteed sale: myself. I’m a firm believer in supporting your local game store, especially if they host our organized play games. Already though, I’m hearing complaints from my player base about the value of that book. It is roughly 160 pages of content, of which less a quarter of which is actual mechanics; the rest is fluff about the campaign world. Essential fluff, but fluff nonetheless. In answer to this apparent disparency between prize and product, a number of them looked to Paizo for a digital copy... and found the cost there too high to justify as well. Now some of them are talking of staying with PF1, drifting into home games, or dropping out altogether. As much as Paizo doesn’t want to admit it, Pathfinder Society is the life-blood of Pathfinder: simply put, it is the marketing arm of the product. Right now, I am in danger of losing 1) my player base, and 2) continued store support over the cost of one hardcover book. Both are looking down the road and seeing this as an issue, with more product to come and no guarantee that the price point will skew toward what they consider a good value.</p>
<p>The breakdown of pricing is what causes the biggest issue. The hardcover of the new Core Rulebook has a value of roughly $.09 per page. Likewise, the Bestiary breaks down to roughly $.11 per page. Both of those are acceptable to my players and they didn’t even bat an eye on purchasing either of them. The Lost Omens World Guide though has a cost of $.22 per page... and not a lot of value when you consider that roughly 25 pages of that are useful for character building. And the Players Guide doesn’t look to be much better for the value, though I suspect the actual rules/mechanics to take up far more space. In most cases, this wouldn't be much of a worry; a chunk of the players would just purchase pdfs of the books direct from Paizo, the store would order less (based on pre-order information) and life would go on. The expense of the pdfs though will lead to players either 1) using the FREE sources such as Articles of Nethys, or 2) downloading pirated copies. Neither of these will help PFS play since a player is required to own the actual source materially, either in physical or digital form. </p>
<p>This isn’t a new problem either. We saw a similar dip in interest in Starfinder print sales based on much that same issue: too little content/page count for too much money. At least in that, the pdfs were still affordable—something that keeps it hanging on despite a seeming lack of product support.</p>
<p>With Pathfinder Second Edition, this problem seems to have escalated. There is no more affordable Companion line to appeal to a “for player’s only” ideal. Like Starfinder, the Campaign Setting is all there will be be. And apparently, it will be all hardcovers. At an escalated price.</p>
<p>I implore Paizo to consider the impact their pricing has on their overall sales BEFORE it has a detrimental effect of their ability to produce more. Pathfinder Second Edition is a FANTASTIC system, and one I have no problem promoting. But not at this price point—especially for digital/virtual product. Please reconsider.</p>First off, thanks for moving this to another thread as requested by Paizo’s customer service. Hopefully this will not be ignored simply for being moved off of the product page discussion. Since Joanna was nice enough to repost my own opinion toward the top of this discussion, let me chime in further.
I was extremely skeptical of Pathfinder Second Edition. The play test left me concerned about the future of Paizo, much like D&D 4E did to those diehard players. It seemed to be change for...Arnim Thayer2019-08-31T13:30:00ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Lost Omens: World GuideArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/products/btq01zoj/discuss&page=9?Pathfinder-Lost-Omens-World-Guide#4132019-09-06T04:27:27Z2019-08-31T03:03:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Sara Marie wrote:</div><blockquote><p> <span class=messageboard-ooc>The product discussion thread for "Lost Omens World Guide" is not the place for a discussion of PDF pricing. Move on from that in this thread, and if you want to have a discussion about it, or inquire as to why PDF prices are set the way they are, please start a new thread. </span>
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<span class=messageboard-ooc>I would recommend however, to not lead with accusations of price gauging, etc. Paizo staff have a history of being fairly forthcoming and willing to engage on some of our policies and business practices, but that willingness is going to evaporate really quickly if the conversation starts by saying our pricing structure is tantamount to stealing from our community. </span> </blockquote><p>Scanning through, I just saw this post and apologize if my recent post needs to be removed. Is there another thread discussing this that my post can be redirected to?
<p>I want to be clear—I love the new World Guide. I have no idea how Paizo decides its pricing. My only concern is that this will affect sales and cost us players right out of the gate, especially for Pathfinder Society Organized Play. I wouldn’t have said anything if it wasn’t a concern of my constituents.</p>Sara Marie wrote:The product discussion thread for "Lost Omens World Guide" is not the place for a discussion of PDF pricing. Move on from that in this thread, and if you want to have a discussion about it, or inquire as to why PDF prices are set the way they are, please start a new thread.
I would recommend however, to not lead with accusations of price gauging, etc. Paizo staff have a history of being fairly forthcoming and willing to engage on some of our policies and business practices,...Arnim Thayer2019-08-31T03:03:39ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Lost Omens: World GuideArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/products/btq01zoj/discuss&page=9?Pathfinder-Lost-Omens-World-Guide#4122019-09-04T16:46:28Z2019-08-31T02:59:05Z<p>To Erik Mona, James, Jacobs, or Mark Moreland: A moment of your time, please?</p>
<p>I’ve not read through all the posts (400+) on this product, but can we please address the elephant in the corner?</p>
<p>This book is $36 for 136 pages of content. That equals out to roughly $.22 per page. Comparatively, the Pathfinder Second Edition Core Rule book contains 640 pages and goes for $60, a break down of about $.09 per page. And the pdf for the new CRB is only $15 compared to the $25 for the pdf of the World Guide... for less content.</p>
<p>I love the direction PF2 is headed. I was a skeptic during the play test, but the final product really turned me around. It is incredible and flexible, a joy to both run and play. I want to help sell this game (and the product line that follows!) but that is hard to do when the price point seems so out of whack. From what I’ve been lead to believe, the Campaign Setting line and Companion line have now been merged into this new Campaign Setting line, and all future products will be hardcover... I think that’s a fair idea. But the Companion line was what most player’s bought, often getting subscriptions since the print run for that was known to be much smaller than the more “evergreen” hardcover books. this was balanced out by the affordability of the hardcover books in pdf form.</p>
<p>If this price point continues, I’m afraid the push-back will be players either sticking with PF1 or leaving for other games. this is especially true of charging so much for the pdf products, a virtual book that costs nothing extra to produce that that isn’t already accounted for in the print model. I implore you to consider lowering the cost of these books. At the very least, look at lowering the price point for the pdfs. </p>
<p>I’d hate to start losing players over this when it can be addressed and adjusted.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time.</p>To Erik Mona, James, Jacobs, or Mark Moreland: A moment of your time, please?
I’ve not read through all the posts (400+) on this product, but can we please address the elephant in the corner?
This book is $36 for 136 pages of content. That equals out to roughly $.22 per page. Comparatively, the Pathfinder Second Edition Core Rule book contains 640 pages and goes for $60, a break down of about $.09 per page. And the pdf for the new CRB is only $15 compared to the $25 for the pdf of the World...Arnim Thayer2019-08-31T02:59:05ZRe: Forums: Lost Omens Products: Paizo Blog: Such a Lovely Place, Such a Lovely FaceArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sgut&page=3?Such-a-Lovely-Place-Such-a-Lovely-Face#1322019-08-23T03:49:55Z2019-08-23T02:53:16Z<p>I just hope we see more Ancestral weapons. Right now, pickings are thin in the PF2 CRB; elves can only pick Elven Curveblade. And I don’t relish waiting another full year for a PF2 equivalent to Ultimate Equipment after the long wait for one for Starfinder. I’m STILL waiting for a Starship Guide for that system!</p>I just hope we see more Ancestral weapons. Right now, pickings are thin in the PF2 CRB; elves can only pick Elven Curveblade. And I don’t relish waiting another full year for a PF2 equivalent to Ultimate Equipment after the long wait for one for Starfinder. I’m STILL waiting for a Starship Guide for that system!Arnim Thayer2019-08-23T02:53:16ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Changing Positions on the Organized Play TeamArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42o8o?Changing-Positions-on-the-Organized-Play-Team#92019-08-05T16:59:52Z2019-08-04T16:32:44Z<p>Sad to see you leaving as Lead Developer overseeing Organized Play, but happy not only for your new role within the company but also with the choice of your successor. Congratulations to both you and Linda!</p>Sad to see you leaving as Lead Developer overseeing Organized Play, but happy not only for your new role within the company but also with the choice of your successor. Congratulations to both you and Linda!Arnim Thayer2019-08-04T16:32:44ZRe: Forums/Lost Omens Campaign Setting: General Discussion: Paizo Blog: Tales of Lost Omens: Blood FateArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sgps?Tales-of-Lost-Omens-Blood-Fate#242019-07-27T00:47:42Z2019-06-15T00:23:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">GM Aerondor wrote:</div><blockquote> Actually I'd kind of like to hear how this particular story ends. </blockquote><p>Aye! An if Paizo ever gets its novel line running again, I look forward to this tale... and others.GM Aerondor wrote:Actually I'd kind of like to hear how this particular story ends.
Aye! An if Paizo ever gets its novel line running again, I look forward to this tale... and others.Arnim Thayer2019-06-15T00:23:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Paizo Blog: Pathfinder Society Second Edition Preview: Envoys' Alliance & Verdant WheelArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sgnv&page=2?Pathfinder-Society-Second-Edition-Preview#562019-05-31T22:18:51Z2019-05-31T01:34:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Sebastian Hirsch wrote:</div><blockquote> Also, when did lizardfolk become such a big deal? They will be one of the early playable factions, but I am pretty sure that a lot of players are looking forward to other races. </blockquote><p>I'm with you on this. So far for PF 2E, we've seen Paizo embrace Goblins and Lizardfolk, and in PF 1E we had a menagerie of creatures available as open-source for character creation (Tengu, Nagajai, Wayang, Kitsune, Oread, Sylph, Ifrit, and Undine, and—for a short period—Tieflings and Aasimar). What about Kobolds?
<p>It has been established that the Pathfinder Society has ties to a tribe of Kobolds (the Sewer Dragons), first featured in the FIRST EVER Quest of Society play, and then in a series of scenarios—one of which let you play as a Kobold pregen. When are Kobolds gonna get some respect?</p>Sebastian Hirsch wrote:Also, when did lizardfolk become such a big deal? They will be one of the early playable factions, but I am pretty sure that a lot of players are looking forward to other races.
I'm with you on this. So far for PF 2E, we've seen Paizo embrace Goblins and Lizardfolk, and in PF 1E we had a menagerie of creatures available as open-source for character creation (Tengu, Nagajai, Wayang, Kitsune, Oread, Sylph, Ifrit, and Undine, and--for a short period--Tieflings and...Arnim Thayer2019-05-31T01:34:11ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Wilderness Pocket EditionArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/products/btq01vlg/discuss?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Ultimate-Wilderness-Pocket-Edition#212019-05-25T10:33:38Z2019-05-24T17:23:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Steve Geddes wrote:</div><blockquote> This has been their policy since the company came into existence. There are many who don’t like it but it isn’t a second edition issue. It’s come up many times over the years that PF1 was being supported and the advanced class guide was the only time they made an exception. </blockquote><p>An exception made once could be made again. The fact that there is an exception shows the policy is not written in stone. As a consumer, I feel this was a poor choice, especially after talking about this exact issue with two developers for Paizo at GenCon last year. It’s not like they were unaware of the issue of the consumer response.
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They have made a choice... and that choice was to do nothing.</p>Steve Geddes wrote:This has been their policy since the company came into existence. There are many who don’t like it but it isn’t a second edition issue. It’s come up many times over the years that PF1 was being supported and the advanced class guide was the only time they made an exception.
An exception made once could be made again. The fact that there is an exception shows the policy is not written in stone. As a consumer, I feel this was a poor choice, especially after talking about...Arnim Thayer2019-05-24T17:23:25ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Ultimate Wilderness Pocket EditionArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/products/btq01vlg/discuss?Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Ultimate-Wilderness-Pocket-Edition#172019-07-11T05:04:03Z2019-05-20T03:34:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">David knott 242 wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Dragon78 wrote:</div><blockquote> So any word if this book will have the updated version of the Shifter? </blockquote><p>It won't. The way they make these pocket editions is by printing the latest hardback version in a more compact softcover form. Since there has been no reprint of the original Ultimate Wilderness hardback, the contents of the pocket edition will be the same as those of the original. And given that these pocket editions are about to ship, time has run out for there to be another hardback printing in time.
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</blockquote><p>Sadly, this means I won’t be purchasing either one. I’ve been holding out on buying either of them, waiting for a second edition of this book that included the errata before buying it. i was told at GenCon last year thatt a second printing wouldn’t happen until all of the first print run was gone. I knew that was unlikely to happen, based on the substantial errata for the Shifter class. I had hopes that the pocket edition would update the text. I have the pdf and the errata. Why would I buy a substandard product?
<p>This saddens me, the idea that Paizo has decided to not fix this issue when putting out a newer version because their focus is completely on Pathfinder Second Edition. It gives a message of abandonment for those who have supported Paizo for all these years. Come on, guys; this edition isn’t even dead yet, and you’re throwing the body in the ditch.</p>David knott 242 wrote:Dragon78 wrote: So any word if this book will have the updated version of the Shifter?
It won't. The way they make these pocket editions is by printing the latest hardback version in a more compact softcover form. Since there has been no reprint of the original Ultimate Wilderness hardback, the contents of the pocket edition will be the same as those of the original. And given that these pocket editions are about to ship, time has run out for there to be another...Arnim Thayer2019-05-20T03:34:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Paizo Blog: Pathfinder Society Second Edition Preview: Earned BenefitsArnim Thayerhttps://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sglh&page=3?Pathfinder-Society-Second-Edition-Preview#1492019-05-16T23:08:26Z2019-04-30T13:29:41Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Hillis Mallory III wrote:</div><blockquote><p> I am kinda worried about the Factions at this point. I was hoping the Starfinder confusion would not be taking up space in the Guild Guide as it does in the space counterpart. </p>
<p>Will we still have Faction cards? My guess is that it is unlikely.
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Will we have to waste fame on Faction boons? Likely outcome.
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Are boons going to be slotted like it is in Starfinder? I hope not. </blockquote><p>Ideally, it would be nice if the earnable rewards for factions were still available on Faction Cards, with a player able to apply multiple faction cards to a character. I have a love of the Faction Cards as a tracking tool, one I think is lacking in Starfinder. This is an opportunity to find a blending of the two, perhaps testing the waters for a change for Starfinder Organized Play as well.Hillis Mallory III wrote:I am kinda worried about the Factions at this point. I was hoping the Starfinder confusion would not be taking up space in the Guild Guide as it does in the space counterpart.
Will we still have Faction cards? My guess is that it is unlikely.
Will we have to waste fame on Faction boons? Likely outcome.
Are boons going to be slotted like it is in Starfinder? I hope not.
Ideally, it would be nice if the earnable rewards for factions were still available on Faction...Arnim Thayer2019-04-30T13:29:41Z