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This would seem to indicate that you're in the clear... as long as you meet the other requirements of the CUP (such as adding yourself to the registry, not using any of Paizo's trade dress, and adding that magic blurb somewhere on your map (or the site it's available from)).
Mordo wrote:
I'm a fan of these sleeves too. You can get them right here at Paizo
As a first time contributor, it really is a thrill to see my submission make the cut. For those of you that might be interested in how Caller's Rise came together, I've put together some notes here.
The french language licensee for Pathfinder products makes slip covers for APs. They are a bit pricey (just under €20), but they look quite nice.
Thanks danielc, I was pretty pleased with it too. I should mention though, that despite me going on and on about using cheap materials, I actually went out and bought some sort of Warhammer cavalry mini for the horse part. So yeah, there's no guarantee that you can do this sort of thing for pennies, but even when you can't it's still WAY cheaper than a custom sculpt.
I agree that kit-bashing something together is probably your best bet. All you need is a knife, some glue, maybe a bit of "green stuff", and a bit of courage and imagination. It also helps to have a pile of stuff that you're willing to sacrifice parts of to make a greater whole. Here are a few examples of what somebody with moderate (barely) hand skills can accomplish: swashbucker
Plastic is WAY easier to work with. Old hero-clix figures, left-over Warhammer bits, and the toy section at the dollar store are all great sources of material. Also, keep those bits that you cut off to be replaced... some day you might want that sword, shield, or hose that ran to a bio-gun of some sort. "But Andrew, I would never be able to do something like that!" Trust me, if I can do it, so can you. The biggest hurdle is getting over the fear that you'll ruin something. Beat that fear by using cheap materials. Make clean cuts to that you can glue things back together if you need to. Finally, a fresh coat of paint will make all the difference. A unpainted frankenstein looks pretty bad, but I find that even a coat of primer lets me see past the ugliness.
The short answer is that if you can see parts of a map that came from a PDF or print publication then it's not OK if you post it somewhere the public can get to it. Maps recreated from scratch are ok. The long answer is that you should check out the Community Use Policy.
I was wandering the dollar store today and ran across this. It's not perfect, but if you're looking to throw a mothman at your group you could do worse. Canadians, check your local Dollarama.
Here's my count from a full case. 2 Bugbear Hero (c)
No broken minis, though a couple with paint steps missed... nothing major. Lots of badly bent weapons. A few figures have a serious lean to them. I suspect that these are the product of the softer plastic. If that's the case I'd much rather have rigid plastic that I can glue back together if it's broken than misshapen models. The storm giant is a HUGE let down. Very little detail. Garish colour palette. Large relatively flat areas that could have had painted details (cape and shield). It might be an overstatement, but my impression is that it looks like a toy form the dollar store. Tons of great models. Some excellent paint jobs. I have very mixed feelings about this set. A lot of my sourness could be chalked up to the three minis I didn't get though (I feel like I'm WAY off the distribution curve here). Lots of great singles to pick up. Kobold, bugbear, ogres, and stone giants are a sure bet.
Enlight_Bystand wrote:
Yeah, I got that one too, but figured they'd be the same. As it turns out, I was wrong. Zaister wrote:
For completeness, here are the "old" ARG names: Male: Arak, Bekri, Doruk, Fethi, Grung, Hagla, Haluk, Kurat, Malgrim, Mevlut, Oktar, Saltuk, Turgut.Female: Afet, Ceyda, Ela, Esma, Huri, Kurmu, Maral, Masal, Melda, Nisa, Nural, Sekla, Sena, Tansu, Vesile. There's a fair bit of variance in the male names, and a single difference in the female names. Also, interesting catch on the possible inspiration of the original names. If that is indeed the case, then you're right that it's probably the motivation for the change.
So I get an email tonight saying that the PDF of this product has been updated. It said that the hobgoblin sample names had been changed. I immediately downloaded the new version to compare with the copy that I already had. I expected to maybe see an inadvertently naughty name or maybe something that sounded a little bit like a real word (Kahtneep ~ catnip). Instead I find that all of the names both male and female had been changed. I'm just wondering what prompted the name changes. Any official comment?
Chris Lambertz wrote: While I'm sure he has political viewpoints, I'm fairly certain Danzig's main concern was and is: rockin'. That, and serving his dark lord.
I can't say for sure without going home and looking, but I think I'm safe saying that there aren't any duplicates between any of the boxed sets of cards. One exception... the two sets that are available in boosters (Hero's Hoard and Relics of War) were repackaged into boxed sets. I think one of them became Essentials, and I can't remember the other one.
Don Walker wrote:
Thread is here. Purchasing them through this link would help support PathfinderWiki.
Dear Paizo, I hate you... now take my money. Your pal Drew. P.S.
P.P.S.
Liz Courts wrote: …but if you've found the images through the artist's website, then you should be fine, with a couple caveats. Just be a good netizen and link back to the artist's gallery, and for good measure, use the Community Use clause on your website (found here under the "Usage Requirements" section). I've got to say, I'm a little surprised by this answer. Are you saying that Paizo, as the copyright holder of say this image would be OK with me taking a copy of it and uploading it to PathfinderWiki.com to illustrate an article? If that's the case, then why are certain images specificly licensed under the CUP? I'm not trying to be adversarial here, I'm just excited that we might be able to spruce up the wiki with a bunch of pretty pictures. On the other hand, I don't want to get my hopes up before we get a concrete ruling on the issue.
One day I was contemplating all of the extra bits I had left over after assembling this Warhammer set and whipped up a klar from one of the heads from the set and a spear tip. I didn't have a plan for it, but then fate took over when I noticed an old Bane heroclix. My internal dialogue went something like this: "Huh, look at that, it's the perfect size and he's in the perfect pose for it. Wait a minute, there's that Shoanti fighting style where they use a klar and earthbreaker. The haft of that spear that I just clipped the tip of of would work, but what about the head? You know a couple pieces of the sprue from that set would be about the right shape if I glued them together right. Now to make the spikes out of green stuff. Well, they didn't turn out quite as well as I'd hoped, but it gets the idea across. Now I'll just use this left over green stuff to fill in some of Bane's low-cut getup. Now what am I going to do with that head?" At that point, the inspiration ran out. He sat in a box for a few months while I waited for the perfect head to cross my path. Recently, I started running a game for my nephew, and in that game he plays a Shoanti thunder and fang style fighter. I decided it was finally time to dig out this old model and get it finished. In a bit of a rush, I decapitated a Hawkeye heroclix (which was already an amputee because somebody else needed his bow), shaved off his hair and glued it onto Bane's body. For some reason it didn't look entirely too small... good enough! Prime, paint, wash, base, dullcote, done. God he looks like Duke Nukem, and why is he wearing sunglasses (those aren't sunglasses, they're goggles he picked up while exploring the Cinderlands)? Also, he probably should have had some tattoos, but really, I think he turned out pretty good. I love it when thing fall into place like this:
Mark Moreland wrote: Keep the guesses coming, folks! I find them very entertaining, especially the ones that are really, really off the mark. And some of the ones that are close, but for entirely different reasons. Pfft... it's pretty easy: A miniatures skirmish game (possibly designed by Chris Pramas), and maybe a full line of Beginner Box style pawns to go with it.
So, not to be ungrateful or anything, but... The page numbers in this pdf (and the player's one for that matter) are kind of inconveniently placed. I was looking to print this PDF out double-sided and then get it bound. The problem is that the pages are numbered such that the first page should be the leftmost in a two page spread. So when I print it regular-wise, the page numbers (and page headers) are in the gutter. Folks printing single sided are also going to have this problem half of the time (even if the number were in what I consider the "right" positions). That said, I realize that creating a new master page layout (or whatever InDesign calls it) with centred page numbers - for something you're just giving away - isn't really a good allocation of resources. On the other hand, I'm hopeful that a request to swap the page number positions on the pages won't be sighed at too loudly. I am, of course, ready to put on my big boy pants and deal with my admittedly first world problem at your slightest suggestion.
For map packs, I use a large drawer style card box a lot like this one. I prefer this to the smaller plastic boxes (which I also used for a time, before I outgrew it), because it doesn't have those little plastic ridges in the bottom. I found that they tended to put little dings on the edges of my precious maps. Also, to the original poster, I noticed that the product description on the linked page says that the binders are 5x7. Do the map cards (which are 5x8 I believe) actually fit? If so, I'll be tempted to try these out.
Steve Geddes wrote: If you don't mind lugging one around an artists's portfolio folder/bag is ideal - less space friendly but it means you can store them flat. This is *perfect* if you have the space. If you're short on space, try good old-fashioned sheet protectors in a binder. I also slip the cardboard header from the original packaging into the sleeve for easy identification.
Clark, thanks for the info. I suspect that I'm a bit more of a corner case than some. My preference would be for portrait and full colour since I intend to print and bind these. I'm willing to entertain the idea of binding them in landscape (maybe like the old Battletech Technical Readouts)... we'll see. At any rate, I'll hopefully pick these products up just because you have a history of publishing really cool stuff (I'm looking forward to Dark_Mistress' review). EDIT: Ninja'd by Dark_Mistress EDIT (...again): Also, since I'm looking to bind these, a proper back cover is also pretty important to me. But again, I suspect I'm a bit of a corner case.
Wow, this is a HUGE undertaking, and I wish you the best of luck. One thing that you might want to keep an eye out for is the tendency for Paizo-era adventures to call back to earlier adventures. Some of these call-backs are pretty subtle. Two come immediately to mind... In the first or second episode of the Age of Worms, there is a reference to the Mud Sorcerers, and one of early (first or second) instalments of the Savage Tide has a ton of easter eggs that call back as far as issue #4 (there was a thread at the time cataloguing some of them... ah, here it is). You might also consider that some things that started out as Dungeon adventures were expanded in other places. Notably, Kingdom of the Ghouls spawned Empire of the Ghouls (which became part of Open Design's Midgard setting), and it's pretty clear to me that the Pathfinder Carrion Crown module was meant to be a continuation of the Styes adventures. Now, most of the stuff I've cited has already been placed in Greyhawk (my first and true love), but I suspect that there may be other links that I'm not familiar with in more generic adventures. That said, I think that Faazazel may have a point. Trying to create something from scratch is probably going to be a LOT more work than trying to fit/shoe-horn the generic stuff into a pre-existing setting. And clearly I'm biased towards Greyhawk, but it would have some advantages. First, the magazines early and latter days have a fairly heavy bias towards Greyhawk. Second, Greyhawk has a history of many small, independent pieces making up a whole. Third, Greyhawk has plenty of extra space where stuff could be added (particularly at the edges of the map). I realize that this isn't the direction that you intend for your project, but I thought I'd mention it in case you were even slightly suggestible. At any rate, I wish you and your project the best of luck. At the very least, it seems like a good excuse to crack open those old issues and enjoy them again.
Some of these models really have a lot of potential for use in your Pathfinder game. Often a coat of paint and/or judicious use of an exacto knife can make all the difference. Here is a before and after of a mod/repaint of a Swordsman Heroclix that I just finished today: Before (stock photo) and after (front and back). I'm also working on converting a Bane into a Shoanti thunder and fang fighter (which I'll post photos ofwhen I'm done).
Hama wrote: Yes, yes i am. Thank you, very very much. It is amazing! OK, I've assumed that you'd prefer A4 paper. You can grab the complete file here. I didn't do colossal since it wouldn't really fit on a single sheet of paper. If you wanted to, you could show your love by donating a dollar or two to the Pathfinder Wiki (pathfinderwiki.com)... no pressure, just saying.
Are you looking for something like this? If so let me know and I can do up a better version of the mediums and other sizes later tonight.
TrevG wrote:
Canadians near the border should investigate the possibility of having their orders shipped to an american address. Where I live, there is a furniture store (of all things) across the border that does a brisk business in accepting parcel deliveries for Canadians. They charge a small fee, and email you when the package arrives. Even with the handling fee and fees at the border it's almost always cheaper, and I can be reading my new books inside of a week instead of waiting up to four of five for Canada Post to get it to me.
For me, PDFs of the flip mats are a bigger deal than the map packs. The reason being that I can (and do) scan my map packs. Despite various attempts to photograph them, I haven't been able to find a good way to capture the flip mats. So I will be picking the two flip mat PDFs soon, and have listed the map packs for when I finally give up on finding physical copies.
James Jacobs wrote:
That chapter is probably my favourite piece of game writing ever. It is also amongst the scariest things I've ever read. Therefore, it makes me very happy that you are trying not to invalidate, because that one chapter was the one piece of WotC property that I was saddest to leave behind... now I know I don't really have to.
Fleanetha wrote:
Wow, how did none of the wiki admins notice this? At any rate we should be back up and running now.
Also, if you're taking suggestions, you might include errata documents, and web enhancements/extras. We've tried to keep track of that on the wiki as well (see Sins of the Saviors and Adventurer's Armory for example). Finally, here are details on the alpha and the beta of the Pathfinder RPG that you might want to include.
Imaginos wrote: Unless the info is readily available, I don't have it. Most of the product pages on the Pathfinder Wiki have publication dates. Have a look at the Hollow's Last Hope page for an example.
I have a couple of questions regarding the Community Use Policy: The CUP states "You may use the cover images, as displayed on paizo.com, of all of the products on our Community Use Approved Product List at paizo.com/communityuse/products." 1.) Does this apply to the photographic images of miniatures on the APL? 2.) Does this apply only to the currently available cover? Are licensees responsible to keep up with changes to cover images? 3.) It seems that the APL is meant to cover all Pathfinder product lines. Currently there seem to be some products not listed that have been released (the Grandmaster Torch mini for example). Does Paizo plan to keep the list up to date as new products are announced/released?
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