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AFAIK, there's no penalty for attacking him assuming you have sufficient reach or range with your weapons. He does receive a +1 on melee attack rolls against those on the ground floor however; again, assuming he has sufficient reach with his weapon(s).
Depending on positioning of attackers and defenders and the construction of the balcony, it's conceivable that the NPC and attackers might receive a +4 bonus to their AC because of cover provided by the balcony itself.
I know I'm late to the party, but I just picked up this supplement and am looking forward to making a bat-kin character for an upcoming game. I was just wondering if someone could clarify the intention behind the bat shape feat.
Bats are normally diminutive. Do you become a tiny bat or do you become a diminutive bat, but use the tiny animal ability modifiers from beast shape 2? Does the feat contain a typo, and it should read beast shape 3, which does allow diminutive animals?
Wow. A lot of heated debate on this issue. I'm glad to read people's take on it though, so keep it coming.
In assessing power vs cost, I think the most straightforward approach is to compare it to a permanent enlarge person spell which is 2500 gp. Power-wise, the benefits (and penalties) are in effect every combat, which is the only time it matters power-wise and seems to be the main concern of those who propose an increased cost for the item.
Each option has pros and cons on its side. On the good side, the permanency spell requires no actions to activate, takes up no body slots and can't be stolen. On the downside, there's the added hassle of not being able to end the effect when it would be helpful to do so and there's the risk of having a high level opponent dispel the effect permanently. As for an equivalent item the main benefits are that the effect can be ended when desired and it can't be permanently dispelled. On the downside, it costs more, takes up a body slot and the item can be taken from you.
In my mind, the difference between the two isn't so great and consequently the prices for each should be fairly close to each other. I'd say increasing the price for the item by 1500 over the cost of the permanent spell and adding in the body slot requirement easily makes up for the added benefit of being able to discontinue the effect when desired. If the price we're much higher than the 4,000 that the guidelines propose, I'd probably just opt for the permanency effect and use reduce person spells as needed to get around obstacles. Thoughts?
I'm looking to have created a crown which allows the wearer to grow in size as if under the effect of an enlarge person spell at will and to remain so as long as the crown is worn. I'd just like confirm the price for such an item. Since it's "Use-activated or continuous" item the cost would be Spell level x caster level x 2,000 gp x 2 since the duration of the spell is normally 1 minute/level. So a 1st level spell x 1st level caster x 2,000 x 2 = 4,000 gp. Is this correct?
It would seem not based on this clarification from the Skull & Shackles Player's Guide:
Skull & Shackles Player's Guide wrote:
Because ships are constantly in motion, the caster of spells of the teleportation subschool must have line of sight to teleport onto a ship. Otherwise, a caster must scry upon a particular ship first, then immediately teleport to the scryed destination. Any delay in casting means the ship has moved from its scryed location and the spell fails.
It seems familiarity only works for those places that are in fixed locations. At best the tent and it's interior could count as being 'studied carefully' if the caster spent some time in the latest location of the tent or 'seen once' if it was erected hastily and abandoned. My 2¢.
Anyone passing a save against magic jar automatically succeeds at all future saves against your spell.
Quite right; my mistake. Still, I would expect only a small fraction of an army's rank-and-file soldiers to succeed on the initial save. You'd have try and get the survivor on a second go around later with a follow up casting of the spell.
Without special feats, magic jar also possesses people more or less randomly, so assassinating key people via possession-suicide is right out. (Though you could possess someone else, then attempt to sabotage the enemy or assassinate one of their ranking officials in the traditional sense; then try, try again if you fail.)
The spell does allow you to differentiate between targets with 4 or more levels difference between them. Also, your familiar should be sufficiently intelligent by the time you're casting Magic Jar to identify leader-types and bring your soul gem within range of them. That should be sufficient to target the leaders if that's your goal. If you succeed in possessing the leader(s), then you can outiright usurp control of the army; which might be worthwhile for awhile depending on your short term goals. But if you're aiming to outright break the army then you're probably better off skirting around the leaders (who are more likely to make their saves, figure out what's happening and take steps to stop you) and simply target the rank-and-file soldiers; they're the real backbone of the army after all and relatively vulnerable one-on-one.
this spell is an insanely powerful way to take down an army.
Yup. I find it amusing when GMs specify "core material only" for their campaigns. Truth is that the craziest make-the-DM cry sort of stuff can be found in the Core rules. :)
Use magic jar and get the army to destroy itself.
Magic Jar is an army breaking spell if used cleverly. It lasts for hours, can be used to repeatedly assault & supplant the souls of enemies with little way for them to defend themselves or retaliate against it. Although it could be used to some extent in the heat of battle to sow confusion and chaos amongst the ranks, it works best against entrenched armies at rest. Simply hide your body in a safe place, cast the spell at dusk and entrust the gem to your tiny, stealthy familiar. The familiar then sneaks through the encamped army under cover of darkness; surreptitiously bringing the gem within range (though not necessarily within line-of-sight) of slumbering soldiers. Possess one, quietly commit suicide, rinse and repeat. The few soldiers who succeed on the saving throw are hard-pressed to identify the source of the attack and can be assaulted repeatedly until they fail their saving throw. Since the spell lasts for hours this tactic can be attempted every few rounds for an entire evening. Come morning the bulk of the army lies dead or is fleeing for the lives.
This spell is almost biblical in scope; it turns you into an invisible and nigh unstoppable angel of death drifting through enemy ranks, reaping souls as you pass by unseen. I tried this tactic once to break an army of giants in the Rise of the Runelords AP which our party would have been hard-pressed to assault conventionally in the light of day.
Our group just picked up this trinket in the Reign of Winter AP. Just looking to clarify its function.
"Once per day, if used as the focus or divine focus for a summon monster or summon nature’s ally spell, the cauldron automatically conjures 1d3 additional creatures of the same kind from the next lower level list. For example, if a user casts summon monster III to summon 1d3 wolves, he could also summon 1d3 additional wolves (or other creatures from the 2nd-level list)."
Since it only grant "additional creatures of the same kind from the next lower level list" it seems that what's implied, but not outright stated, is that the cauldron has no effect when summoning creatures of the same-level list as that of the spell or when casting the 1st level version of either spell (since there's no lower level list to choose 1d3 creatures from).
I'm also wondering whether the cauldron would work in conjunction with a summoner's Summon Monster spell-like ability seeing as it doesn't require a focus though since, according to the general description of spell-like abilities, it "functions just like a spell. Further, would the Cauldron function in conjunction with appropriate spell-completion or spell-trigger items such as scrolls and wands?
I don't think there's any official ruling on this item, so conjecture is welcome.
Chess Pwn wrote:
yeah, claws are in pairs. this is when you swap in and out something, like rake. odd attacks have rake, even have claws with no rake.
Rake is only good for Quadrupeds though.
At that point you want to get the Rend evolution which will take care of that left over natural attack and you get pretty good return on it.
I believe that Rend by itself is a special ability, not an attack. It has no attack roll of its own; it happens automatically if you hit with 2 other claw attacks, so it shouldn't count towards your maximum number of attacks per round. Correct me if I'm wrong.
David knott 242 wrote:
Alternatively, you can get a Slam attack for one pair of arms if you are under 6th level.
That's true, though what does being under 6th level have to do with it?
I searched but couldn't find an answer. The claws evolution states: "An eidolon has a pair of vicious claws at the end of its limbs, giving it two claw attacks." No problem there; spend a point and you get two claws. But what if you've reached a level where your eidolon is allowed an odd number of attacks and you'd rather add an extra claw rather than say a bite, slam, tentacle or what-have-you? You're free to buy as many pairs of limbs as you can afford, but can you spend 1 evolution point to add claws to one of those limbs or, alternatively, add claws to both limbs but only use one of them in battle to make your odd number of attacks?
Silent image would do it. Just modify the image like a police sketch artist would.
This. Though, since the image of the parents doesn't have to be full-size or need to be realistic enough to fool anyone, I'd say that a simple prestidigitation cantrip should be sufficient to creat a miniature ghostly image that the artist can study. This is the kind of simple magical effect Prestidigitation is designed for.
I've listening to this age old debate about players trying to ride their floating disks for over twenty years. It's nice to see that some ideas never die. The notion invariably ends in disappointment once others chime in and rain on the O.P.'s great idea. Perhaps the mythic version allows this trick, but the base spell, alas, never has without a generous GM's say so.
One amusing idea I've heard of to make it possible is to affix a contraption atop the floating disk with a 5-ft. boom sticking off the front with a seat for the caster on its end. While moving forward, the caster hops up into the seat and so ends up coasting along as the floating disk both follows and propels him forward. Of course, you're stuck going in the same direction unless you engineer some sort of mechanism which allows for the caster to swing the boom around; usually involving a counterweight, a vertical axle, some pulleys and guide ropes. Other approaches include rigging a vertical mast and using a sail to steer around.
This is the point at which physicists usually chime in to point out that this kind of push/pull system can't realistically work and that air friction would invariably slow down and stop the disk and caster even if it did. The counter argument is that the contraption is based on magic rather than physics and so would work because it follows the RAW.
I am not trying to spoil anything, but modern firearms will fit just fine in Reign of Winter.
We players are aware that this unique character is an itinerant WW 1 Russian soldier armed with his stock rifle who's been indadvertedly ported to the Forgotten Realms. Thing is, he'll be starting off as such at 1st level. That's about all we know however, so no more AP spoilers please.
Jamie Charlan wrote:
advanced firearms have a cost not entirely unlike low grade magical weapons. This is worth noting both for 'when it should be available' but also for 'what you're paying for the weapon's abilities'. That advanced firearm is a significant chunk of your WBL at very low levels. You'll have a mundane shotgun, the fighter'll have his +2 weapon, and everyone could be happy.
That might matter if the character were to pay for the rifle, but he'll be receiving it for free in lieu of the gunslinger's usual firearm. He'll be keeping pace treasure-wise with the other PCs as they level, so when others have +2 weapons, he'll likely have enhanced his modern rifle to +2 as well.
Jamie Charlan wrote:
Reason is that Rapid Reload and Alchemical Cartridges are incompatible with advanced firearms. This means you will ALWAYS require a move action to reload your gun, rather than being able to get it down to a free action. The advanced firearms have no real support from archetypes either.
From what I can see, Rapid Reload isn't so much incompatible as it is redundant; reloading a modern rifle is automatically faster than the feat can manage; a move action I believe. When combined with a 5 cartridge capacity firearm, seems to me that the character will be able to pull off full attacks most of the time, only needing to slow down to a single shot every 3rd round or so once he has sufficient iterative attacks.
Is there really no spell, feat, item enhancement or class ability that can further improve a modern firearm's reloading speed from a move to a free action? I'm just trying to get a view of the big picture.
Since no one else in the campaign setting would know how to produce modern firearms or ammunition, neither would be more common nor would proficiency in their use be any easier for others to acquire. Effective prices for ammunition wouldn't be any lower, which in turn would mean that our lone gunslinger must retain the gunsmithing feat to function.
All in all, I can't see what effect a gunslinger with a single advanced firearm would have either on the frequency of guns or their associated prices in the campaign setting nor how it would directly affect his class abilities beyond the balance issues that have been pointed out above. Unless of course the character or some NPC goes out of his way to backwards engineer the advanced firearm and seek to spread the technology throughout the setting. Then we're discussing a setting-wide arms & armor revolution.
Leliel the 12th wrote:
Go for it, if you can think you can find a justification for more magazines in Golarion. Or why you know how to make them.
Depending on how this PC came to be trained in advanced firearms, and his/her upbringing, the DM may want to apply the Commonplace Guns, or Guns Everywhere rules, in regards to this PC.
The character and his firearm will be effectively unique in a standard "emerging firearms" campaign setting; his origins being another, more technologically advanced, world. I believe the intent is for him to produce his own ammunition via the gunsmithing feat.
Our group is about to start a new Pathfinder Adventure Path at 1st level with four 15-pt buy PCs. The GM encouraged one of the players to try out a gunslinger and, due to an elaborate background, is considering giving him starting access to a modern 5-round capacity rifle rather than a gunslinger's typical firearm options.
I'm not terribly familiar with Pathfinder firearms or the gunslinger class. For those who are; what effect would this modern technology have on the the gunslinger's overall class balance at low and higher levels?
People disagree with me on this, but my view is that unless you get multiple attacks due to a high BAB, you get to designate ONE of your attacks as carrying the touch attack rider effect and only that one attack can carry the effect.
Interesting. Can you explain the rationale behind your view?
I've searched the rules forum and got bogged down in inconclusive similar-though-not-quite-the-same questions. Hopefully someone can clarify the issue for me.
Say I have a character with the fey bloodline's laughing touch power...
Laughing Touch (Sp): At 1st level, you can cause a creature to burst out laughing for 1 round as a melee touch attack. A laughing creature can only take a move action but can defend itself normally. Once a creature has been affected by laughing touch, it is immune to its effects for 24 hours. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier. This is a mind-affecting effect.
…and multiple natural attacks per round (bite/claw/claw for instance), since touch attack effects can be delivered with successful natural attacks, can I full attack and successfully inflict a laughing touch effect on multiple opponents as a full attack?
As a secondary question, does a failed attack roll on a laughing touch use up one of the daily uses of that power or does the 3 + Cha limit only apply to successful attacks?
Thanks for the help.
Add me to the big-hatted gnome aficionado club. My gnome's hat of choice was a lcomically large stocking cap which hung down to his ankles; a family heirloom. It was magical and functioned as a handy haversack with plenty of room to store all my adventuring gear along with a wide assortment of potions, scrolls & alchemical supplies to suit any oddball circumstance; all retrievable as a move action. The interior space was about the size of a sleeping bag so I could even fit my gnome, familiar or another character inside in a pinch. I'd usually tuck the hat inside the empty knothole of a tree, well off the group, and use it as my character's tent at night. Very cozy. I took the improved familiar feat to acquire an air elemental familiar and occasionally had her ferry me around in the hat for some quick overland travel. Best thing I ever pulled out of my hat? A quintet of previously summoned shadows to surprise strength-drain Black Magga to death in Runelords. Good times.
A player in our group is looking to play a humanoid woman who can naturally change shape into a wolf as a part of her character concept; though she isn't infected with lycanthropy. Since she's supposedly been doing this since birth, is there any way for a character to effect that transformation at 1st level?
How about the caster touching himself? If a cleric casts a cure spell and soon after walks into a battle and is injured, can he touch himself on his turn before taking other actions? I can't imagine that touching yourself would require a standard action; seems it should be a free action if there are no complications.
Wow. Think how many pints of blood a dragon has.....
Yeah, but it's only good for 24 hours, so I sure hope you're thirsty. I can't imagine what the bathroom breaks that day must be like...
Although, how did the caster cast the spell in a tavern? It has a range of touch and the target is one dead spellcaster. That seems to indicate you would need access to the body to cast the spell and drink the blood directly from the tap as it were.
The OP did mention that the whole group pilfered some trophies from the carcass. Maybe they're carting enough of it around for the spell to work. :P Edit: Ninja'ed!
Taku Ooka Nin wrote:
Indeed, and by indeed I mean, not so much. Eidolons are intelligent, have a will to do their own thing
That's entirely true for conventional eidolons but synthesist eidolons work differently.
Taku Ooka Nin wrote:
Think of the Eidolon's mind as being a whispering voice in the back, but that cannot see or hear the physical world (thereby being unable to make extra "free" knowledge or other checks
It's great if you and your GM want to play it that way; sounds very cool for some character concepts. But there's nothing in the synthesist description that hints at the summoner being able to communicate with his eidolon, even on an empathic level, and I wouldn't assume that it'd be the case by default.
If he's only ever summoned his eidolon while melding, I wonder if a summoner would even conceive of his eidolon as being some alien entity. It would be like a Soulknife assuming that his mind blade has a secret life of its own when he's not manifesting it.
Other players have an inherent urge to try to disrupt the secret identity status quo and start acting with mistrust despite being aided so it doesn't work out too well.
Their reaction sounds reasonable to me. I'd get suspicious too if some strange super-dude kept popping up every single time me and my four buddies got into a scrape. Add to that this strange guy is always nearby to us no matter where our group happens to be, he's never spotted with anyone else and he always appears a moment after one buddy ducks out? Right...
It seems to me that expecting unscripted characters to react with the same plot-driven obliviousness of Lois Lane without their prior agreement is more your failing than theirs. You might as well don a pair of glasses and try to fool your real life buddies into thinking you're somebody else.
There's nothing in the synthesist's description that hints at the eidolon being independently sentient. On the contrary, since the eidolon has no independent mental scores, skills or feats of its own, that would seem to indicate that it is entirely non-sentient. A synthesist's eidolon is essentially just a suit of armor whipped up out of extra-planar matter at the summoner's whim.
That being said, you're free to come up with your own twist on it as long as your GM agrees. I'm playing a merged and unmerged synthesist as if they were two different people sharing one body; a sort of Jekyl & Hide scenario. They share the same mental array & skills to keep them rules-kosher, but I roleplay them as two distinct personalities. In my character's background, they actually used to be two people who were brought together out of necessity.
The Paladin is a hunter, and the PC controlling him, opposes Vegetarianism. It was an evil dragon anyway, and each player took either a scale, some skin or some other token from it. Bunch of pack rats. :)
In that case, were I the Magus, I'd be pretty dubious about my meat-eating, trophy-collecting, dragon-hunting buddy's objections.
I'll add alignment check to it, so the Paladin has the opportunity to start some drama.
What's an alignment check?
Blood Transcription is a spell with the [Evil] descriptor, so if the Paladin knows what's going on, they should be a bit upset about it yes.
Good (heh heh) point. But I'd only allow the Paladin to make that call if he successfully used Spellcraft to identify the spell's evil nature first. Otherwise he's just inventing reasons to object.
As long as the spells were from an older dragon's sorcerer-esque spellcasting rather than some spell-like abilities, I'd say it's legit.
A dragon knows and casts arcane spells as a sorcerer.
The ability to "cast arcane spells" makes the dragon a legitimate spellcaster. So Chug! Chug! Chug!
Bonus Question: Is the Paladin a strict vegetarian? If not, does he equate consuming other sentient beings' remains as a form of canibalism? If yes to the latter, did the paladin's player establish those as his character's beliefs beforehand or did he just invent that ethical dilemma on the spot so that he could mess with the Magus' player?
Can't go too far overboard with a standard PC race; even true dryads don't receivve any particular bonuses in woodlands. How does the following sound as a revised version of perennial?
Perennial Forester Meliae are creatures of all seasons, and so are as accustomed to harsh winters as they are to easy summers in their woodland homes. A melia can move through any sort of undergrowth (such as natural thorns, briars, overgrown areas, and similar terrain) as well as natural snow and ice at her normal speed and without suffering any other impairment. Thorns, briars, overgrown areas or snow and ice barriers that have been magically manipulated to impede motion, however, still affect her. Melia also gain a +2 racial bonus to Survival skill checks while in woodland environments..
I'm thinking 3 R.P. might be sufficient for such an ability. Thoughts?
They have free movement through snow but not through underbrush, that seems wrong.
You make a good point. My notion of giving the meliae some ability to deal with cold environments comes from my beef with those fey and plant creatures who are native to areas with winter seasons but who have no racial ability to endure frigid temperatures. How do they survive the winters? I can't imagine treants or dryads building fires to keep warm in their groves. My ¢2.
I prefer to add the ability to move through underbrush as you suggest. Perhaps I could add that in lieu of the entangle spell-like ability. Anyone hazard to guess what a move-through-overgrown-areas ability might cost in R.P.?
Some sort of restriction for being too far from their tree would enable you to balance with some more powers.
It'd be easy enough to give them the same weakness as dryads. No idea how many R.P. that might be worth though.
Give them favored terrain bonuses wherever wild ash trees grow (or could grow)
That'd be Forests
and penalties to the same things whenever underground, underwater, or in civilized lands.
That'd pretty much encompass every environment besides Forests. What kind of bonus/penalty do you have in mind? Stealth or AC bonus?
Give them tree meld as the dryad ability
Hm... That'd eat up a lot of R.P.
Here's some flavor text to try and spice up this boring girl:
Meliae are the ash tree sisters of the common dryad and the benign guardians of their woodland groves. Named after the honey-like substance exuded by their bonded trees, these fey have a sweet and nurturing disposition as well as an intoxicatingly charming demeanor. Like common dryads, meliae are bonded to their trees, and are usually only found deep inside virgin forests, far away from the woodcutter's axe.
Physical Description: Meliae appear as graceful women of slender build, with pointed ears and flesh like polished fine-grained wood. Their features are exquisite; with high cheek bones and almond-shaped eyes that appear as pools of amber honey. A melia's hair is a cascade of small ash leaves that change color with the passing seasons; vibrant green with white blossoms in the spring and summer, turning to yellow or crimson-purple in the autumn before finally thinning to grey-black in the winter.
Relations: Living isolated and sedentary lives, it is unusual for meliae to ever cross paths with each other, so their shared culture remains minor. The same cannot be said of the meliae's relationships with friendly animals or other sylvan beings however, who are naturally drawn and welcomed into their groves. Indeed, many meliae are often attended and protected by an ever-changing entourage of visitors as if they were queens holding court. Amongst their friends, meliae may count various herbivors, mischievous grigs, playful sprites, or lustful satyrs as well as more unusual companions such as unicorns, treants and perhaps a few mortal druids or rangers who've earned the tree-fey's trust. Together they comprise the only means for meliae to learn of the world beyond their sheltered groves.
Alignment and Religion: Isolation and the goodwill of their sylvan friends strongly influences the meliae's character and philosophy. Neither cruelty nor deceit come naturally to them and so most are chaotic good. Usually, all they know of religion is what they've learnt from the visitors to their groves so most meliae, if they follow any religion at all, opt for female woodland deities commonly worshiped in their area.
Adventurers: Normally rooted in place, exceptional circumstances are required for a melia to leave her grove on an adventure, usually involving the destruction of her bonded tree; necessitating the search for a new tree with which she can join. Alternatively, some powerful magics may allow a melia's tree to be moved; possibly by a helpful treant or druid friend, though usually as a means to escape some great peril.
Seems a bit bland to me. Though you've chosen powerful SLAs.
It's about as bland as any standard 10 RP race is likely to be without some monstrous racial traits thrown in. it's hard to shoehorn in a tree-fey's charm, way with animals, AC & DR defenses, and various plant-related magical abilities on a limited budget. If nothing else, her ability to speak with plants makes her stand out from other PC races.
If you've got suggestions to spice her up though, I'm all ears. :)
also there's a skill focus racial trait you don't need the bonus feat version unless it's there fora different reason.
Hm. There's the Skill Bonus (2 RP) trait, which gives a +2 bonus to a predetermined skill while the half-elf's example profile has something called "static bonus feat (skill focus)" as at trait for the same cost; though the latter would grant the player a +3 bonus to a skill of his own choice.the latter option is clearly better than the former; odd that they're given the same rp value.
Since I started with the half-elf as a template, I figured I'd keep the skill focus feat as it was. Perhaps that was misguided.
I'm working on a PC fey race called the Meliae; a type of dryad bonded to an ash tree in Greek myth. I started with a half-elf, kept some of its base traits, adopted some of the half-elf's alternate racial traits and swapped out others traits for those from the Race Builder chapter of the Advanced Race Guide to maintain balance.
It ends up being a low-calory PC-friendly version of the dryad which, by my count, maintains the ARG's 10 r.p. guideline for a standard PC race. I'm just looking to get some feedback on it.
• Type: Fey (2 RP)
Perennial: Meliae are creatures of all seasons, and so are as accustomed to harsh winters as they are to easy summers. A melia can move through natural snow and ice at her normal speed and gains a +4 racial bonus on Fortitude saves to avoid nonlethal damage from cold environments.
I'm trying to rough out my Synthesist's feat progression from level one. Although I want to be combat-effective, the GM prefers to focus more on role-playing so there's some room for some non-combat diversity.
Thing is, the more I look at it, the Extra Evolution feat seems to be a better option than most feats. Compare the +3 bonus of Skill Focus vs the +8 racial bonus from the Skilled Evolution. Evolutions are strong, versatile, can be repurposed every level and generally superior to individual feats.
My question is, if available at the current level, isn't the Extra Evolution feat a solid and generally better choice for a synthesist to take?