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James Jacobs wrote:
Rennaivx wrote:
How do cults of empyreal lords tend to proselytize/evangelize? I know they aren't terribly prolific in most cases, but I'm pondering a warpriest of Ragathiel and was wondering how she'd be most likely to have stumbled into the faith without being raised in it. I know Magnimar is one of the bigger clumps of mystery cult activity, and she'll be passing through there. But would she be most likely to come across a pamphlet, a street preacher, gossip in a tavern, a bard's stories...?
It'd vary wildly; there are dozens of them, after all, and they're not all the same. The one constant would be that they'd do so without being evil about it. Ragathiel's faith, being a more military type of deity, probably gathers new people by showing their prowess and goodness on the battlefield or in times of war.

How does Arshea's faith proselytize. Please answer with as much detail as possible!

This raises another question: why isn't Arshea's faith more popular? Given what it offers, you'd think it'd be in demand more.


Do you think the wizard class needs an "unchained" version? If so, what would the changes be? (I'm not asking for a detailed writeup, just a general summary.) If you're not the person to ask, who would be?


James Jacobs wrote:
The last adventure I wrote that's been published was relatively recent: "A Song of Silver" in Pathfinder #100. I've got a short adventure addition in the upcoming Curse of the Crimson Throne (a 20-some dungeon complex addition to "A History of Ashes"), and the entire book of Curse of the Crimson Throne has been developed by me (which includes a LOT of new words spread throughout the book). As for an entirely new adventure? Nothing announced yet, but stay tuned, I guess!

Will there be any new...Thassilonian material in the Curse of the Crimson Throne hardcover?


James Jacobs wrote:
If Bezlarue is in charge of Cheliax... it would not get better for the people of Cheliax.

Wow, now I'm curious. How could she possibly make things worse?


James Jacobs wrote:
I'm pretty sure Chelax suddenly being ruled by a chaotic evil bard worshiper of Nocticula would qualify for villainy, and would not count as a net victory for the good guys.

Ah, so she was chaotic evil all along. I didn't like that alignment requirement in Way of the Wicked either...

That said, how wouldn't a regime change improve the lives of Cheliax's beleaguered people?


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
We've not done many atrocities yet beyond theft and murder. I'm looking forward to more pickpocket opportunities and big city shenanigans; my character Bezlarue is already kinda sick of the small town stuff and wants more attention and more pockets to pick!
So she wants the Skyrim experience then. ;)
I wouldn't call it the Skyrim experience at all, since Skyrim doesn't allow you to pursue a seduction of the nation's leader and assume control of it all.

Wait, aren't you supposed to be playing a villain? Yes, I know she worships an assassin succubus queen, it'd still be a net victory for the forces of righteousness.

James Jacobs wrote:
Alignment is an abstraction, and while players ABSOLUTELY know their own characters' alignments, folks in world don't say "I'm chaotic good." They would instead say something like, "I try to do good deeds, but don't let that get in the way of having fun if I can help it!" or the like; they'd be descriptive.

So what would someone neutral good say? What would a lawful good character say?


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
So what's your party like? What atrocities have you and your associates committed (besides the usual theft and murder)?

My character's a demon-blooded tiefling bard, one of two chaotic evil characters (the other is a human barbarian who's also looking to become a cannibal). The other three in the party are a lawful evil human cleric of Asmodeus, a lawful evil antipaladin aimed at becoming a Hellknight, and a lawful evil elf wizard.

We've not done many atrocities yet beyond theft and murder. I'm looking forward to more pickpocket opportunities and big city shenanigans; my character Bezlarue is already kinda sick of the small town stuff and wants more attention and more pockets to pick!

So she wants the Skyrim experience then. ;)

Spoiler:
What did the party do with the kid who throws dung and rocks at the PCs?


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:

In Hell's Vengeance (p.25):

"Some even speculate the two are lovers, but while Kavalderic’s romantic tastes are flexible when it comes to gender, [Abrogail II] is too inflexible for his tastes, and the demibaron is too old and flamboyant for her liking."

So exactly what is Abrogail II into?

I had no input or really much to do at all with Hell's Vengeance. I'm currently playing Hell's Vengeance, though, and my character Bezlarue certainly HOPES that Abrogail II is into lady tiefling bards!

I hope Bezlarue's careful; Abby's a Nazi devil-worshiper.

How far along are you into the adventure path?

About 1/2 or 1/3 the way into the first book.

So what's your party like? What atrocities have you and your associates committed (besides the usual theft and murder)?


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:

In Hell's Vengeance (p.25):

"Some even speculate the two are lovers, but while Kavalderic’s romantic tastes are flexible when it comes to gender, [Abrogail II] is too inflexible for his tastes, and the demibaron is too old and flamboyant for her liking."

So exactly what is Abrogail II into?

I had no input or really much to do at all with Hell's Vengeance. I'm currently playing Hell's Vengeance, though, and my character Bezlarue certainly HOPES that Abrogail II is into lady tiefling bards!

I hope Bezlarue's careful; Abby's a Nazi devil-worshiper.

How far along are you into the adventure path?


In Hell's Vengeance (p.25):

"Some even speculate the two are lovers, but while Kavalderic’s romantic tastes are flexible when it comes to gender, [Abrogail II] is too inflexible for his tastes, and the demibaron is too old and flamboyant for her liking."

So exactly what is Abrogail II into?


Arshea gets a paragraph in p.21 of Faiths of Purity. The information differs little from newer lore, but the last sentence has a bit of trivia, and an explanation for Arshea's favored weapon:

"Your greeting to one another is an intricate, four-part bow, and you can sometimes tell other worshipers by the flails they wield—symbolically turning the slavers’ scourges back on them."


You mentioned several times that one of the reason TSR got into financial trouble was because they fragmented the player base with so many settings (Mystara, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms, Spelljammer, Dark Sun, Planescape, Birthright, some others I'm forgetting). While having two settings (Pathfinder and Starfinder) isn't quite so many, are you worried about fragmentation happening again? Why or why not?


James Jacobs wrote:
The NPC wrote:

Mr. James Jacobs,

What song would you suggest as a theme song for a paladin in love with his goddess?

Anything filled with angst and regret.

Even for paladins of Arshea?

What about Lymnieris, who's also both lawful good and sex-positive?


James Jacobs wrote:
TrinitysEnd wrote:
Do Succubi always drain a target when they kiss or engage in acts of pleasure? Or can they turn this off?
They can't turn it off.

Why would people willingly truck (or its obvious rhyme) with a succubus then?


Suppose I want to design a mansion as a dungeon. What would be a logical room setup What would be a fun one?


Jessica Price wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
Jessica Price wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:

The ritual worked! We got actual Paizo authorities!

O, great keepers of lore, addressed such non-sarcastically, please tell us why the stats for empyreal lords, particularly mental ability scores, are so damned gimpy?

Don't know. I wrote most of the flavor for Andoletta, but I didn't do the stat block. Sorry. :(
So...do you know who did?
Yes. But it's their choice to identify themselves.

Understandable, given how personal criticism can unfortunately be.

Still, would you pass this on to them? If Paizo’s going to portray exemplars of the good alignments as cool, they need cool stats to match.


Jessica Price wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:

The ritual worked! We got actual Paizo authorities!

O, great keepers of lore, addressed such non-sarcastically, please tell us why the stats for empyreal lords, particularly mental ability scores, are so damned gimpy?

Don't know. I wrote most of the flavor for Andoletta, but I didn't do the stat block. Sorry. :(

So...do you know who did?


Jessica Price wrote:
It is 100% intentional. There was a sidebar that accidentally got cut explaining the decision--what it amounts to is after a considerable amount of research, we settled on the singular "they" as the most recognizable and acceptable pronoun for agender and genderfluid characters.
Mark Moreland wrote:
We debated back and forth about how best to represent genderless characters in this book, and ultimately "it" was not a pronoun we were comfortable using. As often as possible, we tried to phrase sentences so that there weren't too many "they"s, but we didn't catch them all. As we become more accustomed to using the singular they in future products, this will likely smooth out. But believe me, it was really hard for a building full of English grammar wonks to use the singular they, but I believe we made the right call and did the best we could considering English as a language doesn't provide a widely accepted genderless pronoun to use in place of he or she.

The ritual worked! We got actual Paizo authorities!

O, great keepers of lore, addressed such non-sarcastically, please tell us why the stats for empyreal lords, particularly mental ability scores, are so damned gimpy?


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Slithery D wrote:
Side note: I find the use of "they" rather than "it" as a genderless pronoun horribly jarring and confusing. I couldn't even understand what was happening the first time I encountered it and thought there was some mysterious group entity I had missed a reference to or poor editing.

My guess is that Paizo feels that "it" is dehumanizing, or depersonizing in this case. I do understand how using "they" can be a bit confusing, but gender-neutral pronouns like "e" aren't yet popularized in colloquial English.


Slithery D wrote:
I now understand why Zohls has such a hard time talking to all the other dummies in Heaven. Apparently she's the only one smarter than a 10th level wizard.

Yeah, I'm noticing a trend in gimpy mental stats for empyreal lords too. It's especially noticable when celestials with lower CRs have higher mental scores. Would anyone writing the statblocks care to comment on this?


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
I'm playing in a Hell's Vengeance game—we abandoned our Way of the Wicked game 2/3 through book 2 and restarted more or less with Hell's Vengeance after things kinda bogged down with book 2 of Way of the Wicked.

Why'd the game bog down?

On a related question, how was having a villain lair to work from?

It bogged down because the fortress management got too repetitive, and the fortress layout was too illogical (enormous rooms with random layouts made navigating the place when it got attacked a bear).

Gaining the villain lair was kinda dull too—there were barely any monsters or treasures to gain while exploring the huge place.

It would have been a lot more interesting if it was about half the size, was laid out with a more sensical floorplan, and had more intrigue type stuff going on with roleplaying options.

By too large, do you mean each square was too big (10'x10' per square), or there were too many squares?

How exactly was the layout random? How would it have been more sensical?


James Jacobs wrote:
I'm playing in a Hell's Vengeance game—we abandoned our Way of the Wicked game 2/3 through book 2 and restarted more or less with Hell's Vengeance after things kinda bogged down with book 2 of Way of the Wicked.

Why'd the game bog down?

On a related question, how was having a villain lair to work from?


Slithery D wrote:
Hopefully she deserves the CR, unlike the pushover Empyreal Lords published in B4.

You're not the only one who thinks they were mis-statted.

To anyone who has the supplement, how do Andoletta's stats look?


James Jacobs wrote:
I have no opinion on Undertale; don't play it or know anything about it.

The game's page has a summary, as does TV Tropes, but I wrote up another one.

The plot of Undertale is that monsters were exiled underground a thousand years ago after losing a battle with humans. In the present day, a child (the PC) explores Mt. Ebott and falls down a hole into the underground, where the monsters presently live.

The combat is turn-based RPG style, except the monster's attacks are a dodging minigame, and you're heavily encouraged to end the fight peacefully. Monsters are people too, and often quite the characters.

There's also the infamous Flirt command, which combined with the child's appearance brings to mind a G-rated Arshea.

So, interested?


Mark Seifter wrote:
MusicAddict wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
MusicAddict wrote:
Was that a "Mounted Fury" archetype that I spotted when you were showing off the magical child picture?
Good eye! Yes, it's basically Zorro.
I will also admit that just now, in an attempt to get a really nice screenie of the magical child artwork to just point out how much it reminds me of a certain time manipulating magical girl to my pathfinder skype group, I actually got a fairly clear screenshot of a good chunk of the two pages. Without saying what it can do, that familiar actually seems fairly impressive.
It's pretty impressive. Much like with Chosen One (the previous magical girl-ish paladin archetype), Luna can be a silvanshee now; I mean clearly she isn't just a regular cat!

Isn't Luna lawful god? Now Artemis I can see as a silvanshee (assuming they can have white fur). Sailor Venus would probably be a better fit for Golarion anyway given how dark the place can get.

Speaking of getting dark, with the upcoming Curse of the Crimson Throne hardcover, have you given any thought to PCs based on these four? I'm sure it'd be...breathtaking.


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
The way an elven farm looks and functions as compared to a gnome farm or human farm or dwarf farm or whatever farm is not something we've done a lot of design for, other than to generally assume that the nature of these endeavors would in some way match the nature of the race. Since elves are so in tune with environments, to the extent that over centuries they physically change to mesh better with those environments, their farms would be in tune with the environments as well; they'd grow crops in naturalistic ways that to the average human would likely be relatively indistinguishable from wilderness or natural growth, in other words. Harvesting crops from tended wild stock, in other words, in a way that impacts the environment in a positive way. There's not really a real-world analog to point to for an example, since we don't have elves and to simply say "it's like this human practice" kind of means it's a human practice, not an elven practice.
Not even the apete "forest islands" of the Kayapo? I've read here and there that the rainforests were gardened.
Maybe. Dunno what you're talking about though.

It was in the context of this post. I was offering a possible human equivalent of elven agriculture.

So...is it comparative enough?


James Jacobs wrote:
The way an elven farm looks and functions as compared to a gnome farm or human farm or dwarf farm or whatever farm is not something we've done a lot of design for, other than to generally assume that the nature of these endeavors would in some way match the nature of the race. Since elves are so in tune with environments, to the extent that over centuries they physically change to mesh better with those environments, their farms would be in tune with the environments as well; they'd grow crops in naturalistic ways that to the average human would likely be relatively indistinguishable from wilderness or natural growth, in other words. Harvesting crops from tended wild stock, in other words, in a way that impacts the environment in a positive way. There's not really a real-world analog to point to for an example, since we don't have elves and to simply say "it's like this human practice" kind of means it's a human practice, not an elven practice.

Not even the apete "forest islands" of the Kayapo? I've read here and there that the rainforests were gardened.


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nighttree wrote:
Not a fan of Manga...so I can't really put a finger on the trope that everyone is referring to in the "magical Girl"....although the pictures people have posted make my colon spasm...

Don't be fooled by the sparkly, they're living weapons. Magical girls are one of the few natural predators of evil wizards and fiend lords.

I wanna sic Sailor Somol on Sorshen.


Congrats on Paizo for including the Sensitive Material section (p.10). "How indulgently sadistic can I be? I don't want to squick anybody." is very important to ask.

It's also not a rhetorical one. What is your comfort level?


Quote:
"He was born a common man to a couple down on Razor Street. Some even say that he's the lost son of Darl Jubbanich, which would make the Red Raven the child of Liberty itself, raised by the common folk!"

And how would he know that?

Quote:
"Best get runnin' Your Excellency. The Red Raven knows you're here."

Eir Excellency just conversed with him.


How would you feel about an adventure path featuring Apostae? It'd probably be the closest thing to Undertale we can get in Pathfinder.

Speaking of which, what's your opinion of Undertale?


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I'm personally fond of the term QUILTBAG.

I know it's technically the opposite of a slang for straights, but I figured this would be the ideal thread to bring it up.


Merisiel Sillvari wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
How would you feel about being in a relationship with a devotee of another sex god (e.g., Arshea, Lymnieris)? I can imagine it'd lead to some awkward arguments.
Awkward? Why?

(Dang, at first I thought you were making a somewhat confrontational statement and asking why I was asking. Now I'm mad I didn't continue this thread earlier...)

Why do I think it'd be awkward? I'm guessing disagreements over the finer points of sexual ethics, and possibly a sense of proselytization-based rivalry.


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How usable for sex are the servants of a mage's magnificent mansion?

If "not much" or "not at all," what can be done to remedy that?

Besides being able to feed a lot of people (at least 132 people/day, more with a higher level caster and less courses per person), does a mage's magnificent mansion come with baths or toilets?


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James Jacobs wrote:
I decided on Barzillai Thrune as the main bad guy because I wanted a character who was equal parts Thrune (government) and worshiper of Asmodeus (church), then took a lot of inspiration for certain elements of his character from a lot of current events. Also... I'm really tired of a certain video game character look, and wanted to see one who fits into that appearance be cast not as a hero of a game but as the irredeemable villain.

Why is that look popular among video game protagonists?


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
Since some angels are made of amalgamations of souls (like solars), is it possible for angels to absorb souls?
Not if they want to remain angels, because "absorbing souls" is not a good action, really.
Not even if the soul consents to be absorbed? Or if the soul wants to merge with the angel? I'm not talking about daemonic soul-eating here, I'm thinking more along the lines of how solars are created (from several souls), except the process continuing after the solar's creation.

Souls don't really have that capacity to "consent." They can't make decisions or choices, really, when they're not in a mortal body, undead, or merged with a body as an outsider.

Beyond that, there's no mechanical advantage, game speaking wise, for an angel to absorb a soul.

And beyond THAT... angels just aren't into absorbing souls. That's just not a good act, because a soul can't consent or do anything like that; it doesn't have stats, and that means no Intelligence or Charisma and that means it's not self aware and thus cannot give consent... see above.

What about petitioners (which is more along the lines of what I was thinking)? Can they opt to merge with angels, or other celestials, out of a desire for increased intimacy?


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:
Since some angels are made of amalgamations of souls (like solars), is it possible for angels to absorb souls?
Not if they want to remain angels, because "absorbing souls" is not a good action, really.

Not even if the soul consents to be absorbed? Or if the soul wants to merge with the angel? I'm not talking about daemonic soul-eating here, I'm thinking more along the lines of how solars are created (from several souls), except the process continuing after the solar's creation.


Since some angels are made of amalgamations of souls (like solars), is it possible for angels to absorb souls?


Will this book cover things like human sacrifice and innocent souls getting sent to the lower planes?


mechaPoet wrote:
Along with the cleric, these villains keep turning out long and pointy.

Indeed, DiTerlizzi may have some competition.


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For spells and abilities that give boosts to Knowledge checks, such as moment of prescience or a lore oracle's focused trance, do they work for checks that take hours (or weeks!) per roll, such as researching true names or artifacts?


James Jacobs wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:

Let's say there's a PC for Rise of the Runelords who's an angelkin aasimar bard acting as a priest of Arshea...

In addition to the below, what sort of trouble would this cause? (You might think of something I haven't.)

I don't think it'd cause "trouble" at all. It'd open up tons of new story options that could be really fun and compelling to explore.

I agree, it's just that fun and compelling new story options involving relationships (especially sexualized ones) in RPGs tend to involve getting into (fun and solvable) trouble.

That said, what new story options that could be really fun and compelling to explore were you thinking of?

James Jacobs wrote:
If the PC aasimar started in Sandpoint and was eerily beautiful, I would absolutely have that character start to have some of the same uncomfortable/awkward experiences with locals that Nualia did; folks asking for locks of hair, for blessings, and so on. How that PC reacts would fuel how I reacted.

Let's say "amorously;" an Arshean's blessing would likely be complementing somebody's physical appearance at the very least, and in most cases would end up being as sexual as morally permissible (especially when supplicants ask to have children sired). The town brothel will look comparatively chaste. What then?


Let's say there's a PC for Rise of the Runelords who's an angelkin aasimar bard acting as a priest of Arshea...

1. Given how the place fetishizes aasimar to the point of being a plot point, how much (entertaining) trouble would this cause?

2. In addition to the below, what sort of trouble would this cause? (You might think of something I haven't.)

3. How many of the women would want his child?

4. How many of the men would lust after him as well?


James Jacobs wrote:
Belltrap wrote:

I apologize if this has been asked before, but...

At the height of his power, did Aroden rival Pharasma for "most powerful divinity worshiped on Golarion"? Or in the greater scheme of things, even if his worship was more influential and pervasive throughout the Inner Sea region in his heyday than Pharasma has ever been, was Pharasma still top dog?

No; not even close. Aroden didn't even rival Desna or Sarenrae or Abadar or Gorum or most of the others for power. Among humanity on the nations of the shores of the Inner Sea his faith was very influential, but the further you got from the Inner Sea, the less influence he had. And remember, most of the other core 20 are worshiped on many other planets as well. Aroden, not so much.

So what made Aroden so special that his death ended prophecy through the entire universe? I know, and agree with, the meta reason (prophecy is lazy storytelling), but what's the in-setting reason?


Happy Birthday to us, James!

My day was good. How's your day been?


Merisiel Sillvari wrote:
AlgaeNymph wrote:

After looking at you on p.22 of Pathfinder #99, I have to say wow, you have a beautiful face! Seriously, you are absolutely sexy when you're smiling, and you look great with your hair up as well! No doubt Kyra does everything she can to make that smile last. ;)

Why hasn't anyone else pointed out your obvious beauty? Also, why did I take so long to complement you?

Awww... thanks!

And plenty of others have complimented me before. Congrats on catching up, though! ;-P

Since I don't want to be behind, you're looking good in p.63 of Pathfinder #100 too. Who's the artist?

Today's my birthday today. :) What day's your's?

How would you feel about being in a relationship with a devotee of another sex god (e.g., Arshea, Lymnieris)? I can imagine it'd lead to some awkward arguments.


Yeah, these evil iconics get creepier and creepier. I wanna see the next one top Linxia in sheer vileness.


Byakuren Hijiri from Touhou. The optimizers would hate me for playing an arcanist specced out at a melee fighter, though.


You may be interested to know that Frisk has already been built in Pathfinder, just check out p.7 of Chronicle of the Righteous. Androgynous? Check. Flirtatious? Check. E even has the same hairstyle and facial expression.


Wow, great guide so far! I especially like the Arshea section. ;)

Are you still working on this? I'd like to help with the editing if you're willing.

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