It looks like I haven't received this becuase it was going to be sent with the Pathfinder DM screen - that's still in pre-order. Can I please get the Bestiary sent now instead? I'd rather not wait until December for this whole order. Thanks for your help.
A couple of question on making a new character for this. Any traits being included in this - like the ones in the Character Traits PDF? Also, what about regional traits/feats - from one of the PF Companion books, for example? Or, just from whatever's in the PF Core Book only.
This begs the question, are you looking for more attendees for the joust? Was going to put a chracter together, probably this afternoon, but if you've met your quota, I understand.
According to the table 12-4 in the Pathfinder Core Book (399), 4th level wealth would be 6,000 gp. Seems a bit high to me...but that's what they refer you to from the Starting Weath Table on (140).
Hello, this looks like great fun! Rellios is hardly the proper sort for this type of tourney. Swords...great...not so much lances...or horses for that matter. ;-)
Hello there,
I apologize, but I didn't know of another means of contacting you.
This is really my first chance to get on the boards in awhile. I wanted to apologize for falling off the face of the Earth in your RotRL game sometime ago.
I don't know if you care that much, but I was in an automobile accident. It took some months of healing and rehab, but it looks like I'm OK.
In any case, I just wanted to say hello again more than anything right now. I'm sorry for any kind of mess I might have left in your plans. Thanks for your attention.
Hello all, I don't know if anyone still remembers, but I was playing as Becton awhile ago here in Heathy's game.
This is really my first chance to get on the boards, and I'm not sure what the status of the game is right now. I cannot apologize enough for falling off the face of the Earth to everyone, especially to Heathy who gave me chance to play in this game.
I don't know if particulars are essential to know, but for those who might have wondered, my sudden departure was health-related mostly. I was in an automobile accident, which did some serious damage to my right hand. It took some months of healing and rehab (plus frustration), but it looks like I'm OK. I made for a lousy lefty, by the way.
There were other issues, related to family and work in the current economy that didn't help. All of this has pretty much kept me away from these boards for most of the past year. Things are finally starting to get back to relatively normal for me, maybe getting back into a game or chatting at least. I'm still catching up on all that's been going on.
In any case, I just wanted to say hello again more than anything right now. I have missed the wacky and sometimes overly chaotic adventures of the Saltmarsh gang, but also I wanted to thank Heathy for running a great, fun game. I'm sorry for any kind of mess I might have left in your plans. Thanks for your attention.
This is Alex, formerly the elf known as Rellios. I don't know if I'm the last person anyone in this thread would expect to hear from, but here I am.
This is really my first chance to get on the boards, and it looks like this particular PBP game is now over I guess. In any case I wanted to extend a message to the folks in this thread:
I cannot apologize enough for falling off the face of the Earth to everyone, especially to Hru, Klyndak, and Tarren - who I had started this game with. So if you are still reading this board, my sincerest apologies.
I don't know if particulars are essential, but for those who might have wondered, my sudden departure was health-related mostly. I was in an automobile accident, which did some serious damage to my right hand - nonfunctional at one point. It took some months of healing and rehab (plus frustration), but it looks like I'm OK. I made for a lousy lefty, by the way.
There were other issues, related to family and work in the current economy that didn't help. All of this has pretty much kept me away from these boards for most of the past year. Things are finally starting to get back to relatively normal for me, maybe getting back into a game or chatting at least.
I have missed the adventures of Klyndak, Hru, Yin, Kamris, Orlan, Sir Manfred, and the Kannonfodder bros. I also wanted to say thanks to Tarren, for allowing me to play and making it interesting to play. You were a great DM to play with, and I apologize if I made your job harder by my sudden departure.
What I love about this thread is how it's mutated from a simple what happened here question into the ecology and psychology of the starfish-panda-bear....w/wings!.
Although I see some of the examples quite clearly, I think some of the nations are more open to source interpretation. Part of that is, to me, the overall feel of "era" that Golarion evokes in many ways.
Citing some comparasons:
Greyhawk - Despite its fantasy elements, the world has always evoked a feeling of low through high medieval eras. Depending on where you are, it just seems that much of the game world sticks to the traditional, European Medieval cultural timeframe (Nyrond, Keoland come to mind). The city of Greyhawk's success seems to stem from being contradictory to this mindset - with an almost Renaissance era mindset in some ways.
Faerun/Forgotten Realms - Although there's clearly Medieval Era kingdoms in this game world (Tethyr, Cormyr), there's also an emphasis on non-fuedal nations like Sembia or Calimshan. Overall, the Forgotten Realms has more overt high fantasy elements, but also seems to evoke a Renaissance Era feel with the emphasis on greater individualism and non-royal, non-religious nation-states. As with Greyhawk, Waterdeep seems to reflect that best.
With Golarion, someone else mentioned the 17th or 18th century feel, but I tend to feel it is more akin to the Post-Reformation, Age of Exploration feel of Europe - more akin to maybe the 15th or 16th century.
Maybe because it is new, the world seems to evoke a sort of curiosity about it that gives off that vibe. But it's also because you seem to have a great deal more cultural elements than just traditional medieval ones going on. Old empires such as Taldor and Cheliax collapsing from religion, age, and rebellion seem to evoke the splintering of the Holy Roman Empire, the Ottoman rise from the Byzantine Empire, and the increasing power of Spanish and English nation states. It's an era that sees all the trappings of medieval aspects still there combined with new innovations from exploration. The pirates of the Shackles seem very much to evoke the Carribbean Age of Sail while Andoran seems to be hinting at the trappings of the Age of Enlightenment. Throw in a mix of magic and technology, and you have elements of fantasy set in era of dynamic transition.
Anyhow, that's way more of an analysis than I intended to explain that despite the "Dungeons" and the "Dragons", Golarion seems to be developing more fantasical elements than just the classic, medieval mindset.
Thanks for the update. I was just curious to know if had been an editorial fiat or some really big printing error. Plus, now I'm just bloody curious as to what Akyrak looks like, etc.
I'd like to apologize if I am retreading old ground here, but I'm hoping someone can clarify this - either the fine folks at Paizo or another person with the PF 10 book.
I was rereading PF10 the other day, comparing some notes to PF11 when I noticed on the back cover of the book that among the features included were 5 brand new monsters. I definetly remember seeing only four: Bonestorm, Cinder Wolf, Havero, and the Red Reaver. Sure enough - a double check reveals no extra monster.
Then on page 65 there's the box section that references Cinderland Creatures. There's a mention of a creature called an Akyrak, and references page 80. There's only an introduction to the Monster's section on that page - no details.
I wondered if this was a printing error; but then I checked my PDF copy and the result was the same. I haven't seen extensive posts or errata notes anywhere on the messageboard or website. Has this been addressed, or did I miss a post somewhere? Again, apologies for the nitpick, but I was trying to figure out has happened. Thanks for any information.
While I didn't like the art somuch I dhave known perky sadists.
Is that of the "Hey, I'm having fun pulling wings off butterflies..."tee-hee" kind?" Or are we talking more of "you've been a naughty-boy...wink-wink kind?"
For some reason, the impression I get is the "flight attendant from hell" with a touch bloody misery mixed when it comes to Laori.
I do admit that if many priestesses of Zon-Kuthon wear the skin tight chainmail like Laori Vaus, then perhaps its for me too. ^_^
Ah, yes...I found that quite...unusal visually. I mean, it looks like she's wearing lycra chainmail. Based on what I read, I can see why she's kind of an outcast - a perky sadist seems a bit off for the "life is pain" crowd.
So I started a massive undertaking today in order to occupy my time for the summer, and after downloading the following three super-modules from AD&D, I am giving it a go converting them to 3.5:
Good luck with that, Jal! That would be super awesome to see - as I have considered what it would be like to run it under 3.5's system.
I can't offer too much right now off the top of my head - but may pipe in with thoughts at some point down the line.
I am deeply sorry for being out of the loop. I'm getting over the stomach flu that's laid me low for five days now. I'm trying to catch up on the information that has taken place and I've been out of sorts as a result. I'll just say I'm in, and get back into the groove of things later tonight. Again...really sorry.
Some...but I'm hardly a regular viewer of the show here in the States. My nephew really into it right now.
FYI, my apologies for being out of touch - I've been getting over a stomach flu for the last five days (dehydrated, etc.), so I haven't been on the board much.
Hey gang...sorry for my small absence. A combination of working right through the Independence Day holiday and a last-minute, out of town trip on Saturday-Sunday left pretty much beat and resting on Monday.
Still, it sounds like I wasn't the only one scattered this weekend. Hope everyone had a good holiday.
Hey gang...I'm sorry for my small absence. A combination of working right through the Independence Day holiday and a last-minute, out of town trip on Saturday-Sunday left me pretty much beat and resting on Monday.
I see a conversation about CMW has occurred. Despite never "facing-off" with the guy - the less said by me the better. Just one of those people who gets under your skin, I guess.
Anyhow, for those who had some holiday time (or not), hope you all had fun.
Hey gang...sorry for my small absence. A combination of working right through the Independence Day holiday and a last-minute, out of town trip on Saturday-Sunday left me pretty much beat and resting on Monday.
Hey gang...sorry for my small absence. A combination of working right through the Independence Day holiday and a last-minute, out of town trip on Saturday-Sunday left pretty much beat and resting on Monday.
If that's the case, we'll miss you, bud. I understand from a player perspective; but I think the characters are going to be doing a bit of head-scratching if you just "blend into the background" as it were.
Are you thinking 'I'm done with this thread', or do you want to switch to some other character/class, as Tarren mentioned. Just wondering.
Grael, Ingowil and Etellio, what are your plans for the rest of the evening? Would you be interested in learning new things, acquiring something, or meeting someone? Any PrC ambitions I should be aware about?
Etellio is somewhat interested in Shalelu; his curiosity about elves is part of it. He certainly could be somewhat attracted to her - but that's still nebulous - and he doesn't want to seem weird by asking too much about elven cultural stuff. I think meeting our hostess at the Rusty Dragon could also be interesting; at least to thank her for the free food.
Otherwise, he's certainly curious in walking around Sandpoint, maybe. Given his multi-classing, getting a short sword or rapier would be helpful. Some thieves tools might also be a priority; but he's pretty cash poor right now - unless we had a windfall I forgot about.
Not to butt in, but I've been reading the PF#10, which has the players endure all kinds of Shoanti ritual adventures - including one or two involving the Lyrune Quah. I'm beginning to see why Yin might be considered an outcast with her love of fire amongst that clan. ;-)
As for Rellios, and I already mentioned it some - I think I could see:
Spoiler:
a) If we plan to stay in the Spires, that's cool. Rellios certainly would have no qualms in helping clear the place out; it seems the proper thing in his mind. He has a great deal of respect for Kamris.
b) A trip to Magnimar to speak with his foster family; maybe see what happened with that blacksmith.
c) As you mentioned, he's curious to go back to Korvosa and see if he can clear his name. See what's going on there, at least - I guess it could depend on how much is tied in with the Crimson Throne AP. That was kind of my inspiration for the backstory - although in no way would I expect us to plunge into that whole storyline.
d) Generally, I'm willing to go with whatever the group wants. Helping out his new friends like Hru, Manfred, Yin, and Kamris is certainly not something Rellios would decline.
In Hru's case, I think he's wanting the half-orc to find his place in the world; if that's what he wants. Rellios is developing an attachment to Yin and Kamris. These two are starting to feel like something comforting - maybe because they speak elven if nothing else. Manfred, he's spent alot of time among humans, so he's not so curious about him just yet - but I can see some ideas brewing.
I have to say, this has been one of the funnest pbp I've done. The personalities and interaction has been great. And Tarren has managed to 'wrangle' us without having to drop the hammer too much. So, yea, it's been great!
I don't know if Fabes would concur, but it sort of reminds of Flamifur's defunct pbp - in terms of the character's conversations and reactions so far.
Just wanted to add in, Joe, that I don't think your alone on being edition neutral, and that so far nothing you've posted would be something I would call inflammatory on either side. Your comments and questions are good; so don't let it disappoint. In McCoy defense, he's also pretty level headed in my observations - so I don't think his comment was intended as being rude or mean.
That being said, I totally believe that both editions and their iterations can co-exist. Whether they are all successful, I can't say -but I do think that 3.5 variation such as Paizo's 3Path and 4th can each find a market and appeal. I would have to say that it is probably possible now moreso than with any other edition that has been developed (although with the internet there's plenty of chances for 1st and 2nd edition construction that didn't exist in the past to make them still viable).
I'm on the EU servers, yay Defiant! I'm up to two level 50 heroes now although I really need to dip into the new content, I never got around to the Faultline stuff, and there's still some timetravelling I need to do... I at least finished the Rikti War Zone stuff - yay me!
Sounds cool - I'm definetly more of COH/V player than WOW. I'm on US Justice server. Yea - I need to do the Time Traveling stuff and some of the new content. I just finished the Rikti War Zone and was playing around the power proliferation as well. :-)
"And, dude, my half-elf rogue was packing this flamin' crossbow thing, and the dwarf wizard guy was like casting s***. Awesome."
"And then I summoned up the holy Toyota Tacoma truck...drove it into the mouth of the dragon...cut out its heart and drove right out of it's freakin' chest! Isn't it cool?"
All 3rd party publishers paying for the GSL must sign their WOTC agreements with the phrases: "By your command" or "We kneel before Lord Zod" or "As you decree, Great Maker!"
All adventures written with the GSL must include a quest involving shrubbery and a herring; and all monster manuals or similar reference materials must include stat blocks for a herring and a shrub.
Just don't trash talk Paizo employees. Gary's AI scans the channels.
Nah, Paizo folks have been nothing but all kinds of awesome to talk to; Customer service has been great too!
And I mean that too...I'm not worried at all about the fact that my posts keep getting little blue dots when nobody else has 'em. ;-)
dungeonmaster heathy wrote:
mwahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
That, on the other hand, makes me nervous. When DM's start laughing to themselves and rubbing their hands together (ala Snidley Whiplash), something's not good about to happen.
I think you have some good choices there. The thing you might realize, comparing the Gazetteer with Rise of the Runelords, is that the folks at Paizo slowly changed some stylistics elements as they have matured Golarion(Pathfinder's world) into a product line.
Overall, I think you'll find the first AP to be a good primer for learning about Golarion and how it works as much as the Gazetteer.
That being said, I would also suggest for further study:
Hollow's Last Hope - D0
Crown of the Kobold King - D1
Into the Haunted Forest - TC1
Entombed with the Pharaohs - J1
Guide to Korvosa Curse of the Crimson Throne Player's Guide
The first four are adventure modules, but I suggest them as a way to also introduce players to the Pathfinder world outside a proscribed setup like the APs. They are smaller steps to the Pathfinder world.
I mention the Korvosa/Crimson Throne materials as good next step in seeing a more urban setting after Rise of the Runelords more diverse setting. Despite the setup for Magnimar, Korvosa is much more detailed and provides extensive information about that area of Varisa.
I've only played the X-box version, and I hear it plays slightly differently on PC, if that's a choice. That being said:
While it might be considered slightly generic, the sci-fi feel is great! I love the details and the game world they have created - it is very creative in sliding between science facts and fiction in their development. There's certainly a great storyline there, and after awhile you can really get into the events taking place. While it might be intended to be epic in nature, I think it keeps it fairly straightforward.
There's enough RPG quality to keep it from being a straight shooter. The way you can customize the character by their equipment, abilities, and even alignment certainly allows for variation and different styles.
As far as dislikes, that would partially depend on your experience with Bioware games. They make great games, especially RPGs, but you may experience some deja-vu in the game's style and storyline if you played Bioware games before. Comparison with Knights of the Old Republic may be the obvious one; but many of their other games have similar thematic ideas and characters as in Mass Effect. So, that may disappoint.
Also, despite it being an interesting feature, I really didn't care much for the overland transport on planets bit. It's a necessary feature to at least practice for later plot development, but it seems kind of a frustrating bit of the game to me. Finally, like many Bioware games, how much background details of the game world you want to learn depends on how much you dig into side quests/missions and random materials found throughout the world.
Overall, go for it! If you love a sci-fi storyline wrapped with a distinct RPG feel and developed in a unique game world it should be fun. I'm honestly hoping Bioware will create additional "episodes" to add onto the game.
I usually don't want to talk out of turn about someone, but CWM is one of those people who I see in discussions and I wonder about the guy. I hope it isn't rude to express it.
He seems such an intelligent, engaging fellow on the one hand, but at the same time seems to carry a level of obstinancy and over-sensitivity that makes me not even want to enter a discussion with him. Aubrey's insight seems to best explain it; he seems like he's had an earnest interest in talking about 4e at one time.
My best wishes that things get better for you and your friend's family. I don't want to make any kind of comparison, but I lost a friend in a similar way. Peace be with you, bud.
