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3.5 Loyalist wrote:RJGrady wrote:You know what would float my boat? A male human LG paladin who is bisexual. Take that, haters!
How about characters where their sexual orientation is not important?
Have you read anything Paizo has printed since the start of the Pathfinder AP line? Seriously 90% or more of the NPCs in their material never mention sexual orientation. Why do they not qualify for your request?3.5 Loyalist wrote:
With depth in other, more relevant areas. Such as, what have they done (not who they have done), where do their allegiances lie in the setting (making it less about them being inclusive representations) and what are their long term goals (thus moving beyond the goal of being an inclusive representation).
Seriously read their stuff. If you honestly feel that this is not in Paizo's material then you can't possibly have read it.3.5 Loyalist wrote:
With so much potential detail and depth, waving around the label of the bisexual paladin seems reductive. Great, can be convinced or convince themselves to have sex with pretty much anyone, and they are possibly genderfluid. And?
Not everything, or all that is new, has to be about your interest group you know? Or putting your identity in the game. Perhaps play something else other than your sex drive.
Since when has anyone here said everything must represent their group? The answer here is never until you. You are the only one who seems to think that only your interest group should be represented.3.5 Loyalist wrote:...
This issue is about political representation. One of the big mistakes I've seen dms pull, is to go hard with their politics and force it on to a setting. It makes the setting an uncomfortable place for those that aren't on board or very interested in the rosy presentations of one side. The last time I saw this, it was actually a series of games by a very Christian dm (so I am not just saying trans political proponents are the only issue),
If 90% of paizo npcs don't mention sexual orientation, and paizo npcs are great with plenty of depth, why does the sexual orientation of new npcs need to be mentioned or focused upon when they are LGBT?
It isn't really that important, as it is missing from (your approximate) 90% of paizo npcs.
Thank you for making that useful point in the way you did. :}
In regards to the "must" it comes from Jacobs "make sure" in this quote:
"GLBT characters exist in Golarion, so make sure they're included.
As long as Paizo continues to have GLBT employees, we'll continue to put GLBT characters into our products. In fact, even if the employee thing changes, we'll still put GLBT characters into our products. As long as I have anything to say about it at least."
Make sure they are included. Not put them in if you like, or think they fit, or if your group wants them. Make sure they are included. We are putting them in and will continue to do so, tow the line and make sure they are included. Sounds like Jacobs is saying they must be in. Funny stuff really, reminds me of the phrase the tyranny of the progressive. I know players that would not like the whole gamut of LGBT in game, and I respect their wishes not to be bothered with this. Jacobs clearly does not.