I want a copy. I might get my niece a copy too.

I'm looking forward to this. I always loves getting sets like this. I have a bunch of the D&D boxes, Hero Quest, Dungeon Quest, Warhammer Quest... they are all fun!

Now, to have a Pathfinder version, will be a blast and a half.

I'm curious about the pawns too. Anything is better than the tokens that WotC has decided to implement in their game. I hate being mr. skeptical negative pants, but I hope they don't "change" the classes (ala D&D Essentials.)

I hope they are each a new archetype.

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Let's be realistic. Whichever route they go (i.e. whether it is or is not part of the subscription), some people will complain, some will applaud (and most will remain silent). So they lose (and win) either way. The best they can do, I guess, is try not to make lots of people unhappy.

But, it's happened to me, it will likely be happening to some overseas customers in October, and I'm sure it's happening to other people every month - but overall I think they do their darndest to listen to people and do what's best overall for both their business and the customers.

In other words, while I may disagree (sometimes vehemently) with individual decisions that Paizo staff have made, taken as a whole I think they've done an outstanding job.

It's coming out too late for this year's Paizo & Gen Cons, but it would be awesome to offer one or two games using just the Beginner's Box set - focused on younger people and just using those rules.

I'm not very good with kids, or I'd run it!

Nice! I can get one for my god-son for his birthday! His parents won't like it but...hehe^_^

I know this is a funny question, but will there be a PDF?

I can't talk about the Beginner Box specifically, but I *can* tell you that the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscription, of which this is a part, says this:

As a subscriber benefit, we'll throw in a FREE PDF of each product that you'll be able to download immediately after we ship your subscriber copy.

With reference to international shipping, if you label it as 2 books and 1 toy there is a chance it will be passed over as books.

I have bought minis and books together in the past and not incurred charges.

I'd be happy if they just took the dice out of my copy and label the package as books.

They could donate the dice to someone else, we could call it Dice-Aid.

With reference to international shipping, if you label it as 2 books and 1 toy there is a chance it will be passed over as books.

I have bought minis and books together in the past and not incurred charges.

We will do what we're required to do, which is to classify it as a game.

Unfortunately, I can think of no one I know who I could give a 'beginner's' box to.

I'd like to make a suggestion regarding the dice included in this set (and I fully understand that it may be too late for this). I think it would be very helpful if the dice are all different colors, as opposed to a "complete set" that all match. I have found that for beginning players, it is often difficult for them to pick up which dice are which, especially at first. Being able to say, "The d8 is the blue one," or, "Roll the orange d20 and add your attack bonus," is a big help for someone in their first few sessions.

Nice suggestions. I purposely have a white d20 in my dice box which I can pick out easy from the rest of my colored polyhedrals. I would not be surprised if the dice are specifically made for the set, designed by Q Workshop (like their Adventure Path sets).

Unfortunately, I can think of no one I know who I could give a 'beginner's' box to.

I'm sure your local school/library would like a copy.

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Unfortunately, I can think of no one I know who I could give a 'beginner's' box to.

I'm sure your local school/library would like a copy.

Or Toys for Tots or another charity of your choice. Then it's a tax writeoff.

What's cool with this box is that even if you're not a beginner, you can get some use out of it.

I know I'll be buying it for the Flip-Mat, dice, pawns and extra sheets. Maybe I'll give the books to some cousins of mine... Or I could be greedy and keep it all...

Decisions, decisions...

Nice suggestions. I purposely have a white d20 in my dice box which I can pick out easy from the rest of my colored polyhedrals. I would not be surprised if the dice are specifically made for the set, designed by Q Workshop (like their Adventure Path sets).

I sure do hope not, I can't stand Q Workshop dice, there is a general ban on those dice at my tables and they make me go blind!

I'm with the crowd that is particularly happy about the figurines. Pawns. Miniatures. Those.

Let us hope it is not these Pawns, because that Orange one is EVIL!!!!!

deinol wrote:

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Unfortunately, I can think of no one I know who I could give a 'beginner's' box to.

I'm sure your local school/library would like a copy.

Or Toys for Tots or another charity of your choice. Then it's a tax writeoff.

Thanks for the ideas guys. I don't need the tax writeoff this year (every month but January is under combat-zone tax exclusion) but I think I can send a couple that way with my hazardous duty pay. :)

Couldn't you just modify the adventure to be run with normal patfinder rpg rules. from levels 1 to 5?

Congratulations guys.

Question, if you can answer it, will it be more like Holmes which lead players to AD&D by design? or more like BECMI and stand alone as a game in itself, a more simplified Pathfinder, taking characters to high levels with more releases?

Congratulations guys.

Question, if you can answer it, will it be more like Holmes which lead players to AD&D by design? or more like BECMI and stand alone as a game in itself, a more simplified Pathfinder, taking characters to high levels with more releases?

I think the answer to your question is in the product description.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

It appears that the true return of the Red Box is on it's way. Well played sir well played.

joethelawyer wrote:

Congratulations guys.

Question, if you can answer it, will it be more like Holmes which lead players to AD&D by design? or more like BECMI and stand alone as a game in itself, a more simplified Pathfinder, taking characters to high levels with more releases?

I think the answer to your question is in the product description.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer

Guessing this part:

So more like Holmes then it seems. Neat.

Though you could go both ways if you wanted to....just a thought...

Is the box art original? If so where can we obtain it beyond said box, it appears to be a stunner.

Is the box art original? If so where can we obtain it beyond said box, it appears to be a stunner.

It is original and it is quite stunning.

I should know...

As far as where can you get a print or poster of it, I am looking into that.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Guy who spends too much money on original art
Paizo Publishing

As far as where can you get a print or poster of it, I am looking into that.

Obviously you are going to have to make a release poster out of this..;)

That Said... Wayne Reynolds right?

Only way to get Prints is at Cons he does not sell them online, He will see Originals on Request.

Not sure when he will be back in the States again.

Jason Bulmahn wrote:

As far as where can you get a print or poster of it, I am looking into that.

Obviously you are going to have to make a release poster out of this..;)

That Said... Wayne Reynolds right?

Only way to get Prints is at Cons he does not sell them online, He will see Originals on Request.

Not sure when he will be back in the States again.

If nothing else he's at Gencon

Jason Bulmahn wrote:

As far as where can you get a print or poster of it, I am looking into that.

Obviously you are going to have to make a release poster out of this..;)

That Said... Wayne Reynolds right?

Only way to get Prints is at Cons he does not sell them online, He will see Originals on Request.

Not sure when he will be back in the States again.

Wayne has already sold this cover to Jason. Which is why he is being coy with his "I should know" comments. :)

-Lisa

If nothing else he's at Gencon

That is good, Don't think he was last year, at least I never found his Booth. I have not seen him since GenCon 09

Wayne has already sold this cover to Jason. Which is why he is being coy with his "I should know" comments. :)

-Lisa

I guessed that already, Does not mean that you can't buy "other" original art.. ;)

Jason Bulmahn wrote:

As far as where can you get a print or poster of it, I am looking into that.

Obviously you are going to have to make a release poster out of this..;)

That Said... Wayne Reynolds right?

Only way to get Prints is at Cons he does not sell them online, He will see Originals on Request.

Not sure when he will be back in the States again.

Well, he won't be selling the original of this one... Jason already bought it! :-D

EDIT: Damn, ninja'ed by the CEO!

And it looks great hanging on my wall!

:)

Jason

Lisa Stevens wrote:

Wayne has already sold this cover to Jason. Which is why he is being coy with his "I should know" comments. :)

-Lisa

I guessed that already, Does not mean that you can't buy "other" original art.. ;)

Sure, you can buy other original artwork from Wayne. It just won't be Pathfinder artwork since we are now buying all of the Pathfinder artwork that Wayne does for us and we are framing it and using it to decorate our offices. Those blank white walls have to go!

-Lisa

Those blank white walls have to go!

Woo hoo! :D

Sure, you can buy other original artwork from Wayne. It just won't be Pathfinder artwork since we are now buying all of the Pathfinder artwork that Wayne does for us and we are framing it and using it to decorate our offices. Those blank white walls have to go!

-Lisa

What?... NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! *Cries*

Edit:
Please tell me this is just for Wayne and not all your Artists?...

Sure, you can buy other original artwork from Wayne. It just won't be Pathfinder artwork since we are now buying all of the Pathfinder artwork that Wayne does for us and we are framing it and using it to decorate our offices. Those blank white walls have to go!

-Lisa

Damn! I actually was hoping to check the prices of them while I was there, and spend my whole gencon budget if it was enough.... oh well

I'm fairly certain he will be doing high-quality prints, as his Pathfinder art is very, very, very popular.

Yeah, I got all the iconic he wasn't sold out of in 09, kinda just wanted the prestige of having an original though

Lisa Stevens wrote:

Sure, you can buy other original artwork from Wayne. It just won't be Pathfinder artwork since we are now buying all of the Pathfinder artwork that Wayne does for us and we are framing it and using it to decorate our offices. Those blank white walls have to go!

-Lisa

What?... NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! *Cries*

Edit:
Please tell me this is just for Wayne and not all your Artists?...

Just Wayne.

Hey, it's not a "fearsome BLUE dragon" that's included?

:S

Glutton wrote:

Is the box art original? If so where can we obtain it beyond said box, it appears to be a stunner.

It is original and it is quite stunning.

I should know...

As far as where can you get a print or poster of it, I am looking into that.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Guy who spends too much money on original art
Paizo Publishing

I know what you mean.

(Guy who owns original of cinder worm from PF #10)

But my favorite part of it is that I was able to buy Wayne Reynolds a beer at Origins a couple years ago. One of the nicest guys I've ever met.

Edit:

Sure, you can buy other original artwork from Wayne. It just won't be Pathfinder artwork since we are now buying all of the Pathfinder artwork that Wayne does for us and we are framing it and using it to decorate our offices. Those blank white walls have to go!

-Lisa

Aw, man!

All of it? That makes me darn glad I got one while I still could!

I sure do hope not, I can't stand Q Workshop dice, there is a general ban on those dice at my tables and they make me go blind!

True enough. I retract my statement. I wish they could make them a bit easier to read, but still retain the unique markings.