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Son of Forums are Way Too Long!!!
Andoran taig (Paizo Superscriber),

Deschamps-10 Werewolverines avatar

Celestial Healer wrote:
Why does nearly every company promote people who are grossly incompetent?

Fixed it for you. :)

It seems to be a combination of the team got the work done in spite of the manager's incompetence, or the feeling that they might be somehow more suited for a higher level job.

Edit: Top of the page for that. :(

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

Scott Adams has a theory about this. Basically it goes that incompetent people get promoted to get them away from any position where they could actually hurt the company. Basically management in buisnesses way of culling the herd.

Osirion Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Cold-Rider avatar

So that's how my last boss got his position....

lynora,

S 02 Battle In Bloodsworn V avatar

David Fryer wrote:
Scott Adams has a theory about this. Basically it goes that incompetent people get the promoted to get them away from any position where they could actually hurt the company. Basically management in buisnesses way of culling the herd.

One of my friends has a slightly different theory on this, which is that people get promoted to their level of incompetence. There's this common misconception that someone who is good at a lower level job will be good at a higher one. So they keep promoting them until they end up in a job they can't do. And then they get stuck there. :/

Cheliax Joe Biden,

Freaks 24 avatar

I just got promoted....

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

lynora wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Scott Adams has a theory about this. Basically it goes that incompetent people get the promoted to get them away from any position where they could actually hurt the company. Basically management in buisnesses way of culling the herd.

One of my friends has a slightly different theory on this, which is that people get promoted to their level of incompetence. There's this common misconception that someone who is good at a lower level job will be good at a higher one. So they keep promoting them until they end up in a job they can't do. And then they get stuck there. :/

Either that or the upper management hates you and wants to punish you by giving you an idiot boss.

Qadira Crimson Jester,

Sp 2 Hs Jinglefinger Final avatar

lynora wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Scott Adams has a theory about this. Basically it goes that incompetent people get the promoted to get them away from any position where they could actually hurt the company. Basically management in buisnesses way of culling the herd.

One of my friends has a slightly different theory on this, which is that people get promoted to their level of incompetence. There's this common misconception that someone who is good at a lower level job will be good at a higher one. So they keep promoting them until they end up in a job they can't do. And then they get stuck there. :/

I've heard that before. I have also worked for a boss that I think fits that steriotype.

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

I wonder where the preschool bus is. It is really, really late.

Osirion Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Cold-Rider avatar

David Fryer wrote:
I wonder where the preschool bus is. It is really, really late.

Maybe the kids decided to rebel and are now holding the driver hostage until their demands are met.

Qadira Moorluck (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Overlay-iconic avatar

Bookmark. Gotta go back to work.

Osirion Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Cold-Rider avatar

Moorluck wrote:
Gotta go back to work.

Well now you're just talking crazy....

Moorlucky,

Overlay-iconic avatar

Don't worry. I'm still here.

MoorLackey,

Cover Character avatar

So am I.

Divad Frier,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

Me too!

Emperor7 (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Go L 64 Treant avatar

Celestial Healer wrote:
Why does my company promote people who are grossly incompetent?

Can't fire someone? Promote them out of your dept! Works in schools nowadays too!

lynora,

S 02 Battle In Bloodsworn V avatar

So tired. And the kid is taking so much attention today. Not to mention the laundry and dishes that still need to get done. And I have to take out the trash. Oh yeah, and finish that character. Want nap. :/

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

Divad Frier wrote:
Me too!

No you aren't.

Osirion Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Cold-Rider avatar

Emperor7 wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Why does my company promote people who are grossly incompetent?

Can't fire someone? Promote them out of your dept! Works in schools nowadays too!

In gov't too.

Divad Frier,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Me too!

No you aren't.

Don't reject me David! I'm part of you.....!

Celestial Healer,

Go L 11 Protectar avatar

I just signed up for a single-session cooking class. How fun.

Solnes' First Alias,

A 17 Trina Hires avatar

Divad Frier wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Me too!

No you aren't.

Don't reject me David! I'm part of you.....!

Now you understand how I feel.

Divad Frier,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

Solnes' First Alias wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Me too!

No you aren't.

Don't reject me David! I'm part of you.....!

Now you understand how I feel.

Rejection hurts....

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

Divad Frier wrote:
Solnes' First Alias wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Me too!

No you aren't.

Don't reject me David! I'm part of you.....!

Now you understand how I feel.

Rejection hurts....

But not as much as a plasma bolt.

Osirion Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Cold-Rider avatar

Celestial Healer wrote:
I just signed up for a single-session cooking class. How fun.

Actually, that does sound like it could be fun. All the men in my family can cook, to one degree or another. And, while I certainly I'm certainly not the greatest cook in the world, a chance to improve might be interesting.

HK-47,

Copper avatar

David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Solnes' First Alias wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Me too!

No you aren't.

Don't reject me David! I'm part of you.....!

Now you understand how I feel.

Rejection hurts....

But not as much as a plasma bolt.

You are correct meatbag.

Borg Chachi,

Shadowblack avatar

HK-47 wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Solnes' First Alias wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Me too!

No you aren't.

Don't reject me David! I'm part of you.....!

Now you understand how I feel.

Rejection hurts....

But not as much as a plasma bolt.

You are correct meatbag.

Stop muscling in on my territory

Celestial Healer,

Go L 11 Protectar avatar

Aberzombie wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
I just signed up for a single-session cooking class. How fun.

Actually, that does sound like it could be fun. All the men in my family can cook, to one degree or another. And, while I certainly I'm certainly not the greatest cook in the world, a chance to improve might be interesting.

Yeah, I just signed up for one session with a friend, so it shouldn't be too awkward. We're going to be making some French dishes, which should be fun and different.

Andoran taig (Paizo Superscriber),

Deschamps-10 Werewolverines avatar

Celestial Healer wrote:
I just signed up for a single-session cooking class. How fun.

Enjoy it! Make sure the class doesn't include cooking with a microwave. :)

HK-47,

Copper avatar

Borg Chachi wrote:
HK-47 wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Solnes' First Alias wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Divad Frier wrote:
Me too!

No you aren't.

Don't reject me David! I'm part of you.....!

Now you understand how I feel.

Rejection hurts....

But not as much as a plasma bolt.

You are correct meatbag.

Stop muscling in on my territory

Lubricate off you bucket of bolts! You don't even have a profile!

Osirion Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Cold-Rider avatar

Celestial Healer wrote:
Yeah, I just signed up for one session with a friend, so it shouldn't be too awkward. We're going to be making some French dishes, which should be fun and different.

French dishes sound cool. That type of cuisine is one of the foundations of so-called cajun cooking in Louisiana. Good stuff.

Celestial Healer,

Go L 11 Protectar avatar

But even before the class I'm going to be attempting chicken marsala for some company on Saturday :/

I told them I will have some spaghetti and sauce in the cupboard, just in case.

Osirion Aberzombie (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Cold-Rider avatar

Time to head home folks. See you all later.

Andoran taig (Paizo Superscriber),

Deschamps-10 Werewolverines avatar

Aberzombie wrote:
Time to head home folks. See you all later.

BYE, ABERZOMBIE!

Sharoth (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber),

3 Iron-Dragon avatar

Bookmark!

Sharoth (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber),

3 Iron-Dragon avatar

Aberzombie wrote:
Time to head home folks. See you all later.

Bye Aberzombie!

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

Buy Aberzombie...it help's my stock options.

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

You now what I really love? When people lecture everyone around them about how they should do this or that because it is good for the planet, or some other nonsense and end their lecture with the phrase, "not that I would ever do that, but you should."

Professor Higgins,

Rakshasa avatar

That reminds me of something else everyone should do...

Carnivorous_Bean,

B 6 C Alien Plant Final avatar

My theory on why people who are incompetent are often promoted is a bit cynical, I'm afraid. My idea is that they may be incompetent at the actual work, but they're quite competent at other things, such as --

1. Flattery -- people with the power to promote other people usually eat up toadying like candy. Flattery will get you a lot of places -- it's as effective as bribes in some situations, according to some political biographies I've read.

2. Claiming the work of others -- sure, Fred the Industrious may have done 95% of the project, but he's a typical honest guy who figures he'll get promoted on the basis of what he does, and never toots his own horn. At the same time, Sam the Sly, who did the other 5%, presents the work to the boss, with a modest hint that he really did most of the work. See the "Flashman" series for a fictionalized version of how this works. ;)

Basically, I figure they're very good at playing the political game, even if they're lousy at actually working. And the higher they get in the organization, the more important the people they are who they can flatter directly, and the easier it is to make it look like the work of their now-underlings is mostly due to them.

This dose of cynicism brought to you free of charge by C. Bean, esq. ;)

Jack Hammer,

Visiting Viktor 3 avatar

Celestial Healer wrote:
We're going to be making it with some French dishes, which should be fun and different.

Where do I sign up?

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Mmm...French dishes...

Celestial Healer,

Go L 11 Protectar avatar

Would you believe the cooking class got cancelled! They offered to reschedule, but I don't think I can make any of the other times...

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Is it just me, or is there a lot of grumpiness going around today?

Jack Hammer,

Visiting Viktor 3 avatar

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Is it just me, or is there a lot of grumpiness going around today?

Nope. I'm feeling it too. The aftermath of the full moon? The sugar high crash after Halloween?

Perhaps finding out that Sharoth and Sebastian are really the same person? *oops*

Celestial Healer,

Go L 11 Protectar avatar

There's been grumpiness for the last few months, I think.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Jack Hammer wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Is it just me, or is there a lot of grumpiness going around today?

Nope. I'm feeling it too. The aftermath of the full moon? The sugar high crash after Halloween?

Perhaps finding out that Sharoth and Sebastian are really the same person? *oops*


FnCK!

Falls on own sword.

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

Well Amazon doesn't like my bank and Barnes and Noble doesn't have a copy of the bestiary, either in stock or in their warehouse according to the chicky girl I talked to on the phone. I don't know what I am going to do now.

Wanky the Camprechaun,

A 8 Giseil Highres avatar

I just want to love and be loved.

Is that so wrong -- to want the greatest thing of all?

Pathfinder Pachyderm,

A 5-Elephant Garden Final 2 avatar

Stomps through thread, taking out aggression where it will do no harm.

Crushing stray leprechauns.

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