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Paladin mount options
Andoran Robert Little,

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Are paladin's strictly limited to the list of mounts in their class description, or can they use a suitable creature from the list of all animal companions? (By suitable, I mean at least a size category larger than the paladin and able to carry his weight)?

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

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The class description says the mount is "usually" a heavy horse or pony. But then it goes on to say that the mount functions as a druid animal companion using the Paladin's level as the effective druid level. This immediately gives you access to a companion from that list.

For the sake of riding, however, I'd say that to be a "suitable mount for riding" (as loosely defined in the Ride skill) the mount generally has to be a quadruped one size category or more larger than your character. It would be pretty silly if your medium-sized human paladin rode a medium-sized boar, for example. :-)

Andoran Robert Little,

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
The class description says the mount is "usually" a heavy horse or pony. But then it goes on to say that the mount functions as a druid animal companion using the Paladin's level as the effective druid level. This immediately gives you access to a companion from that list.

For the sake of riding, however, I'd say that to be a "suitable mount for riding" (as loosely defined in the Ride skill) the mount generally has to be a quadruped one size category or more larger than your character. It would be pretty silly if your medium-sized human paladin rode a medium-sized boar, for example. :-)


Well, more specifically I was thinking a (large) tyrannosaurus once a paladin hit 7th level. Although it isn't a quadruped, it has sufficient strength and a saddle-back. It would certainly require an exotic saddle to accommodate riding while "at-rest", but it seems like a plausible mount.

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

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The 7th level advancement for a dinosaur is to make it medium instead of small.

Andoran Robert Little,

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
The 7th level advancement for a dinosaur is to make it medium instead of small.

Doh...that actually answered my question indirectly. For some reason I was assuming that the animal companions from the Bestiary were allowed, not just the ones from the Core Rules. (The Tyrannosaurus on p. 86 of the Bestiary goes to Large at 7th).

Then a new question: will the animal companions from the Bestiary be available for PCs after the upcoming campaign update? :)

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

I will include some of them in 2.1 of the guide book, yes.

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

A quick read of page 54 of the Core Rulebook reveals that the dinosaur in the druid animal companion entry is either a deinonychus or velociraptor.

The OP initially appeared to be addressing that dinosaur entry, not the specific animal companion entry for the tyrannosaurus on page 86 of the bestiary.

Edit: this post was a response to a post that appears to have been deleted expressing confusion between dinosaur entries.

Cheliax Thammuz (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

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Yeah, I posted my confusion, but then realized that the thread was specifically discussing for Pathfinder Society play, not PF play in general. Thanks for the clarification, though.

Taldor ShadowDax,

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
I will include some of them in 2.1 of the guide book, yes.

When will the 2.1 guide book be ready?

Qadira Lialda Longsorrow,

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ShadowDax wrote:
When will the 2.1 guide book be ready?

Early next month.

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

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ShadowDax wrote:
Joshua J. Frost wrote:
I will include some of them in 2.1 of the guide book, yes.

When will the 2.1 guide book be ready?

The moment this one man show can get to it. :-) After the November scenarios, it's next on my to-do list.

Taldor ShadowDax,

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
ShadowDax wrote:
Joshua J. Frost wrote:
I will include some of them in 2.1 of the guide book, yes.

When will the 2.1 guide book be ready?

The moment this one man show can get to it. :-) After the November scenarios, it's next on my to-do list.

Take your time and, thanks for the heads up.

Tessara Sianodel,

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
It would be pretty silly if your medium-sized human paladin rode a medium-sized boar, for example. :-)

Ahhhh....but how would this work for a dwarf? I have a player (in my PFS game) who is a dwarven ranger who wants a boar for his animal companion and mount. I'm not sure how this would work.

Any thoughts or ideas?

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

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He takes a -5 on all Ride checks since a boar isn't a suitable mount for a dwarf (it's the same size category).

Andoran aslak,

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
The 7th level advancement for a dinosaur is to make it medium instead of small.

Actually most of them turns large now. I still have a question as to whether a gnome Paladin would be allowed to take the velociraptor from the animal companion in the Core Rulebook as his mount (at least when it turns medium at level 7). This would of course require an exotic saddle.

I would also like to know whether an Ape is a viable option for a medium paladin.

This is a bit of a gray area and I'm currently creating a paladin charger for organized play, so a little guidance as to what is allowed would be nice.

Would a gnome paladin be able to ride a large tiger with -5 penalty for size?

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

Paladins specifically receive a mount as part of their divine bond. Because it repeatedly uses the word "mount," I'm ruling for Pathfinder Society that you can't take a companion that can't function as a mount. It comes down to common sense and GM purview in home games, but since I'm effectively the GM for Pathfinder Society, here's how it works:

As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level. If you're a Medium PC, your mount must be large. If you're a Small PC, your mount must be at least medium. Your mount must have four legs and be viewed from a common sense perspective as suitable as a mount.

I'll add this specific language to the next guide update.

Taldor Calixymenthillian (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Fiction Subscriber),

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
Your mount must have four legs

No Roc love?

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

Not for paladins, no.

Osirion Mr Henry Fitzwilliam,

Joshua J. Frost wrote:
Paladins specifically receive a mount as part of their divine bond. Because it repeatedly uses the word "mount," I'm ruling for Pathfinder Society that you can't take a companion that can't function as a mount. It comes down to common sense and GM purview in home games, but since I'm effectively the GM for Pathfinder Society, here's how it works:

As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level. If you're a Medium PC, your mount must be large. If you're a Small PC, your mount must be at least medium. Your mount must have four legs and be viewed from a common sense perspective as suitable as a mount.

I'll add this specific language to the next guide update.


So, for Medium-sized Paladin PCs, that means that they are restricted to Camels or Horses, because no other currently allowed mounts are large-size from first level?

Andoran aslak,

Frquazzikul avatar

Joshua J. Frost wrote:
Paladins specifically receive a mount as part of their divine bond. Because it repeatedly uses the word "mount," I'm ruling for Pathfinder Society that you can't take a companion that can't function as a mount. It comes down to common sense and GM purview in home games, but since I'm effectively the GM for Pathfinder Society, here's how it works:

As a paladin, your divine bond mount must be at least one size category larger than you starting at 1st level. If you're a Medium PC, your mount must be large. If you're a Small PC, your mount must be at least medium. Your mount must have four legs and be viewed from a common sense perspective as suitable as a mount.

I'll add this specific language to the next guide update.


The starting at 1st. level size thingy is in contradiction with the examples used in the description of the Cavaliers mount (which of course may be something entirely different), where it states that you can choose a wolf, but not before level 4 where it reaches a sufficient size.

Thank you for your quick answer though, and I will be looking forward to the precise wording.

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