I'm going to be running Pathfinder Society at my store in Philadelphia soon, and I was curious when we should expect the 2.1 rules update? I have quite a few players interested in playing oracles or cavaliers and I wasn't sure if they were legal immediately or if we had to wait for the 2.1 rules. We're running our first games this Saturday and wasn't sure if there was a chance the rules might be out before then, though I realize Paizo may want to wait until all six playtest classes have been released before opening the classes up for organized play.

Also, on a similar note, is the Bestiary going to make it into the 2.1 update? I have a lot of players who want to play kobolds or orcs or whathaveyou, and there's currently no mention of the Bestiary in the rules. Will we see monstrous PCs opened up for PFS play, or does that contradict the way Golarion works?

Thanks!

I'm going to be running Pathfinder Society at my store in Philadelphia soon, and I was curious when we should expect the 2.1 rules update? I have quite a few players interested in playing oracles or cavaliers and I wasn't sure if they were legal immediately or if we had to wait for the 2.1 rules. We're running our first games this Saturday and wasn't sure if there was a chance the rules might be out before then, though I realize Paizo may want to wait until all six playtest classes have been released before opening the classes up for organized play.

Also, on a similar note, is the Bestiary going to make it into the 2.1 update? I have a lot of players who want to play kobolds or orcs or whathaveyou, and there's currently no mention of the Bestiary in the rules. Will we see monstrous PCs opened up for PFS play, or does that contradict the way Golarion works?

Thanks!

2.1 was set to come out before thanksgiving until This post for your other questions, the responce so far has been see v2.1 when it comes out

Yeah, I saw that other post, but it just said it was being pushed back a week, not when that would mean it would actually be available. So, there is no official firm release date then?

Thanks for your help!

Yeah, I saw that other post, but it just said it was being pushed back a week, not when that would mean it would actually be available. So, there is no official firm release date then?

Thanks for your help!

he had said in the 2.0 erretta thread that he originally hoped to have it out by thanksgiving... So I would guess a week after that, give or take

I'm not a fan of firm dates when it comes to rules updates. "Soon" or "in a few weeks" is the best you're going to get.

As for the Bestiary--while parts of it will be in 2.1 as open, I will not be opening up any new races. Golarion is a humanocentric world and kobold fighters don't really fit the picture of the Pathfinder Society we're trying to establish. For at least the foreseeable future, standard core races from the Core Rulebook are going to be the only race choices.

Thanks a lot! It's no problem. I just wasn't sure if there was a date. Since we know the playtest classes are confirmed to be in the rules update, is it all right if a player or two uses one of those classes this Saturday, or do we need to wait for the update to use that content at all?

Go ahead and use the oracle and cavalier for Society play. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that I'll need to adjust in 2.1 beyond simply saying, "yes, use them."

I do want to get pregens up at the same time as 2.1, though.

Go ahead and use the oracle and cavalier for Society play. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that I'll need to adjust in 2.1 beyond simply saying, "yes, use them."

The only clarification I think would be needed would be regarding any updates to the classes. I assume it should be understood that when the final classes come out, a conversion may be necessary, though people like to have things spelled out in official rules. Along the same lines, if newer playtest elements (like more cavalier orders or additional oracle foci) are released, can players swap these out to get a chance to test them as well?

I was talking specifically about things that would be changed or excluded to fit Society rules. The classes will have a write-up in 2.1 about how to deal with future changes and how to make your oracle/cavalier/etc final when the APG comes out.

Go ahead and use the oracle and cavalier for Society play. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that I'll need to adjust in 2.1 beyond simply saying, "yes, use them."

I do want to get pregens up at the same time as 2.1, though.

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The summoner and witch will be legal when 2.1 goes live next week.

The summoner and witch will be legal when 2.1 goes live next week.

can you convert a existing character to one or do you have to make a new one?

You have to make a new one.

Go ahead and use the oracle and cavalier for Society play. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that I'll need to adjust in 2.1 beyond simply saying, "yes, use them."

I do want to get pregens up at the same time as 2.1, though.

The summoner and witch will be legal when 2.1 goes live next week.

Ouch! So we can use Oracle and Cavalier now, but not the Summoner or Witch until next sometime next week?

A few GMs are flying down from Sydney to slot-zero some scenarios with a few GMs here in Melbourne for four days over this weekend, so we're all prepared to run them at local cons in January. We were really hoping to give the new classes a playtest too - it would really help us become familiar with the new classes before players hit us with them! It seems a shame not to be able to do so?

Minor note about the inclusion of the cavalier and oracle. In the
downloadable playtest document for these two classes it says "In
addition, these classes will be legal for use in Pathfinder
Organized Play with the release of the version 2.1 of the Guide to
Society Organized Play".

The most recent Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play which I
downloaded and printed several days ago is listed as version 2.1 with
a date of 9/15/09. This may seem like a silly question but in this
case are the versions 2.01 and 2.1 meant to be one in the same.
Otherwise from a numerical standpoint this is a bit confusing & I want
to make sure my playtest group is doing things by the book. Thanks.

Minor note about the inclusion of the cavalier and oracle. In the
downloadable playtest document for these two classes it says "In
addition, these classes will be legal for use in Pathfinder
Organized Play with the release of the version 2.1 of the Guide to
Society Organized Play".

The most recent Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play which I
downloaded and printed several days ago is listed as version 2.1 with
a date of 9/15/09. This may seem like a silly question but in this
case are the versions 2.01 and 2.1 meant to be one in the same.
Otherwise from a numerical standpoint this is a bit confusing & I want
to make sure my playtest group is doing things by the book. Thanks.

No, 2.1 could also be written as 2.10 so that it shows it is different from 2.01, so when it goes live, 2.10 will be the only official guide.

2.1 will likely go live *this* week. I managed to finish it up yesterday and it's in edit as I type.

AS for 2.01 ... that was a minor update to 2.0. 2.1 is a major update and is coming soon. They are different.

Fist bump to Joshua for finishing it up. Can't wait to bring down some cavalier destruction.

2.1 will likely go live *this* week. I managed to finish it up yesterday and it's in edit as I type.

Josh, you're a GD hero. Thanks for your hard work. I know we're excited to be play testing the summoner and witch after 2.1 comes out.

Thanks for the kind words and the excitement. Hopefully the PDF will leave edit today or tomorrow but don't be terribly surprised if it doesn't come out of edit until Monday or so. Our editorial team is very busy and this is an extra project.

Thanks for the kind words and the excitement. Hopefully the PDF will leave edit today or tomorrow but don't be terribly surprised if it doesn't come out of edit until Monday or so. Our editorial team is very busy and this is an extra project.

My wife has a PFS character she hasn't converted from 3.5 (she hasn't played it since). Can she convert it into one of the new classes? Or is the window for converting characters closed... I'll go look at the conversion doc.

She can convert to one of the new classes, since the guide doesn't prohibit conversions after 8/13/09, it just prohibits 3.5 characters from being played after 8/13/09.

Our editorial team is very busy and this is an extra project.

Why is this considered an "extra" project?

It's not on the production schedule. :-)

But that doesn't matter, as it's coming out today.

It's not on the production schedule. :-)

But that doesn't matter, as it's coming out today.

May I be the first to say:

WOO HOO!