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Spell-like Ability vs Spell Completion/Trigger devices
caribet,

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a question has come from a player - if they have (eg a Rogue with "Minor Magic" Rogue Talent) a Spell-like Ability, does it count for activating a Spell Trigger item like a wand?

Actually, the player is trying to argue that having one spell-like ability as a class feature puts spell-like-casting into her class, and wants to evade Use Magical Device for other wands she has!

I can't actually find anything specific to clarify the question, and it applies to Monsters too, so I'd like to get a grasp on this...

A related question, which I fell I have seen an answer to somewhere but can't pin down (maybe in 3e stuff?) was: ok, a spell-like ability requires speech is the spell has verbal components, and gestures if it has somatic components, but does a Spell-like Ability require spell-components??

Osirion James Risner (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

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caribet wrote:
a question has come from a player - if they have (eg a Rogue with "Minor Magic" Rogue Talent) a Spell-like Ability, does it count for activating a Spell Trigger item like a wand?

Spell-like Ability require spell-components??


No, absolutely not.

Spell-Like Abilities are just that, spell "like" but not spells.

A Rogue with Minor Magic has no class spell list despite having some SLAs and still must use UMD to activate an item with the same spell as one of his SLA.

SLA require no verbal, somatic, material, or focus.

There is a rule now (in 3.p) that summoned creatures (or controlled) can't use SLA with material components without the PC paying the component cost.

I house rule that PC's with SLA that have material components still cost the gp of the component, but this is a house rule.

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