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Razz Sep 8, 2010, 07:48 PM

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It states the the sacred/profane bonus lasts for 24 hours or until the vindicator is struck in combat.

Struck how? Does it end when someone damages him physically, such as with a melee or ranged attack? Or any attack that targets AC, for that matter (like ray spells and such).

Or is it struck by ANYTHING? As in if he is hit by a magic missile or lightning bolt, would the Vindicator Shield ability end?

Thanks.

TriOmegaZero (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber) Sep 8, 2010, 07:50 PM

Suddenly, spitting on your opponent is a legitimate strategy!

Quandary Sep 8, 2010, 07:54 PM

...Imagines Class Ability that functions until stuck in traffic...

YuenglingDragon Sep 9, 2010, 12:17 AM

I'd rule it as any attack that targets AC. It is poorly worded though. What if he was just struck by the beauty of his opponent?

Tanis Sep 9, 2010, 12:23 AM

Struck dumb? (Silence spell)

Rathendar (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber) Sep 9, 2010, 12:37 AM

Razz wrote:

It states the the sacred/profane bonus lasts for 24 hours or until the vindicator is struck in combat.

Struck how? Does it end when someone damages him physically, such as with a melee or ranged attack? Or any attack that targets AC, for that matter (like ray spells and such).

Or is it struck by ANYTHING? As in if he is hit by a magic missile or lightning bolt, would the Vindicator Shield ability end?

Thanks.

I'd consider it when he took hit point damage or ability score damage.

Razz Sep 9, 2010, 04:28 PM

Rathendar wrote:

Razz wrote:
It states the the sacred/profane bonus lasts for 24 hours or until the vindicator is struck in combat.

Struck how? Does it end when someone damages him physically, such as with a melee or ranged attack? Or any attack that targets AC, for that matter (like ray spells and such).

Or is it struck by ANYTHING? As in if he is hit by a magic missile or lightning bolt, would the Vindicator Shield ability end?

Thanks.
I'd consider it when he took hit point damage or ability score damage.

Yeah, that's the problem. I see two different answers for this:

1) When his AC is targeted and he is struck

2) Whenever an enemy damages him, whether via an arrow, sword, or lightning bolt, etc.

Which is it, that's unclear.

Jason Nelson (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor) Sep 9, 2010, 04:43 PM

Struck in combat = hit by a physical effect that requires an attack roll (including a touch attack).

Hit by a spell that does not require an attack roll = "targeted by spell effect" or "affected by spell effect."

Struck dumb by beauty or struck from the roll at the Gentleman's Club = funny.

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