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Hello, everyone!
After resisting the mighty d20 for quite some time, Pathfinder finally managed to convert me ^^
So anyways: I'm currently studying the bestiary, and I have a few questions regarding some demons:
1. Does a Nabasu keeps his growth points when maturing? I think yes, because a former monster with those points - the Bargehst - specifically mentions that it'll lose its points when upgrading
2. I'm slightly confused about the Glabrezu's pincers: they are more powerful than ordinary huge pincers (without the Glabrezu having a feat like "Improved Natural Attack"), and they they seem to be primary attacks, despite the fact that the Glabrezu also has claws and a bite attack. So are these "pincers" entirely unique weapons for him?
3. Marilith's stats make me scratch my head: Her normal attack bonus would be +16 (BAB) -1 (Size) +7 (Str) = +22. Add in her +1 longswords and her Weapon Focus, and you have +24. That's fine so far. But why does she treat her natural weapons like the +2 bonus from her weapons apply to them? Her tail slap and slams are both too high Oo !
Hello, everyone!
After resisting the mighty d20 for quite some time, Pathfinder finally managed to convert me ^^
So anyways: I'm currently studying the bestiary, and I have a few questions regarding some demons:
1. Does a Nabasu keeps his growth points when maturing? I think yes, because a former monster with those points - the Bargehst - specifically mentions that it'll lose its points when upgrading
I believe so, nothing in the monster entry says it loses them. Just that you add the Advanced template on top of it.
2. I'm slightly confused about the Glabrezu's pincers: they are more powerful than ordinary huge pincers (without the Glabrezu having a feat like "Improved Natural Attack"), and they they seem to be primary attacks, despite the fact that the Glabrezu also has claws and a bite attack. So are these "pincers" entirely unique weapons for him?
Some creatures just have stronger attacks. Depends on the creature, not all claw attacks are created equal, and neither are all pincers. The glabrezu's pincers do the damage they have listed. Also there is no restriction on the number of primary attacks a monster can have (unlike 3.5). Pincers are primary attacks, and they are such for the glabrezu, as are its 2 claws and its bite.
3. Marilith's stats make me scratch my head: Her normal attack bonus would be +16 (BAB) -1 (Size) +7 (Str) = +22. Add in her +1 longswords and her Weapon Focus, and you have +24. That's fine so far. But why does she treat her natural weapons like the +2 bonus from her weapons apply to them? Her tail slap and slams are both too high Oo !
Well part of that comes from the +1 from infuse weapon. All attacks have a +1 bonus. Not sure where they other one comes from, could be an error. Could be an error unless im missing something.
I have one about Hound Archon
He has a MWK Greatsword that does 1d8 dmg? He is a Medium creature, why is his greatsword 1d8 instead of 2d6?
I noticed that as well... there are many errors here and there. That happens with first printings. Be sure to mention it in the errata threads in the Products board.
--Vrocky & Bullwinkle
Pincers are primary attacks, and they are such for the glabrezu, as are its 2 claws and its bite.
I'm quite positive they're not. Ye olde natural attack table lists them as secondary - and they could only deal 2d8 damage if the Glabrezu was gargantuan. Okay, there might be creatures whose attack might be treated a few categories bigger - and this demons has HUGE pincers - but that doesn't quite explain why its pincers are primary attacks. If this is some kind of unique feature of this demon, it should be noted somewhere (like the bite attack of dragons).
Maybe having the pincers as part of its rend attacks turns them into primary attacks, but I can't find this under the rules for rend attacks.Well part of that comes from the +1 from infuse weapon. All attacks have a +1 bonus. Not sure where they other one comes from, could be an error. Could be an error unless im missing something.
The description clearly states that the Marilith has to "wield" the weapons. She's basically infusing every "weapon" not native to her body with sweet demonic energy. Besides, her slam attacks don't get the +1 damage bonus the longswords receive.
1) Nabasus keep their growth points forever.
2) A glabrezu's pinchers are primary attacks for it—this probably should have been mentioned somewhere as a special ability, I guess. As for the damage they do, the damage value listed on table 3–1 are, as the table indicates via its asterisk, only BASE damage values. These values can vary from creature to creature. In the case of the glabrezu, its pincers are particularly powerful and sharp, so they do more damage than the generic Huge creature's pincers.
3) That's an actual legitimate typo for the marilith's slams and tail slaps. They should be 1 lower, since she doesn't have Weapon Focus, but her infuse weapon should apply. So basically, the attack rolls for these are 1 too high and the damage is 1 point too low. An error... but a pretty minor one that, if the marilith went into play without a correction, no one would notice.
As for the Hound Archon... he had a longsword in the original writeup, but the artist gave him a really big sword that looked like a greatsword, so the stats got changed to be a greatsword but the damage got missed. A classic last-minute artwork-necessitated change that causes an unintended error, unfortunately.
A classic last-minute artwork-necessitated change that causes an unintended error, unfortunately.Wait.....James.....are you causing intentional errors that we don't know about yet?
If we didn't put errors into the books, the errata police would be out of a job. I'm just trying to keep people busy! :-P