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Um... will this affect my pre-order from amazon uk?
I am going to repost this here from another thread because it answers yours and many other people's questions:
We shipped quite a few copies to our book distributor who in turn sells to Amazon. We can't control to whom our book distributor sells the copies we send them, just like we can't control to whom our hobby game distributors sell their copies. I assume that many of these distributors will have to allocate, but some may fulfill based on who ordered first, etc. Again, we can't control their policies about who gets what part of their ordered filled. I can confirm that we sent a HUGE shipment of books out into distribution, so they will be somewhere to be bought.
-Lisa
I wouldn't have thought so as it's sold out to the distribution channels. I've got to assume that includes Amazon.
Not quite. We are sold out of the copies we send to the distribution channel but they may very well have copies left to sell. Distributors usually order more copies than they have preorders for so that they can pick up sales. How many, I haven't got a clue, but the distributors might have unsold copies still and I almost guarantee that retailers have ordered and unsold copies. But I don't think that will hold for long. :)
-Lisa
Has the shipping of preorders/subscription copies started already? When do you think will you be done with everything? With just the international stuff.
We should start shipping out orders today, which will include international customers. Basically, we are looking at how many days the US Postal Service says that it will take to ship to a certain area of the world and then shipping that many days before August 13th. Our goal is for everyone to get them on that day. The reality is that some people might get it a day or two early or a few days late based on the vagaries of shipping through the USPS and through overseas postal services. But we will make our best estimate and should be pretty spot on for most folks.
Remember that the PDF for the core rulebook won't be available for download until August 13th, even if your book ships earlier.
-Lisa
I just realized something. In another thread, the question was asked what would you do when you get your copy of PFRPG. Well, this is going to make my happy dance even more disturbing to my neighbors, since I subscribed & will be getting my copy. Being sold out makes it even more special. Damn, I'm in trouble. :D Might be in the funny farm for my antics a long time indeed.
Will you be selling them at 9 a.m. when the hall opens to the VIG crowd? :)At GenCon, we will start selling books on Thursday morning at 10am when the exhibit hall opens.
-Lisa
Yep. I forgot that VIG folks get in an hour early. I think I will be up and pacing around the room by 5 am! :)
-Lisa
*HAPPY DANCE!* *Goes back to studying the GenCon floor layout*
K I just got the email about it and all I can say is WOW!
With just under 2 weeks left and to be sold out of the 1st print run already is absolutely incredible!
I recomend that the entire staff of Paizo head on out tonight and celebrate. Well done to you all! You all must be very proud!
Hip Hip Haza, Hip Hip Haza! (Cue Applause)
Keep those dice rolling all!
Ive just recently returned to the world of DnD. I came back to 4th edition and it felt like I was playing a video game instead of DnD. My local game store said I should check into Pathfinder. I did and fell in love. Everything about it reminds me of the good times I had playing DnD from the red box up to 3.0. I am very happy to hear that your first print run has sold out. That is amazing for both you and us. I cant wait to see where you guys take this wonderful work. Keep up the fantastic work and thank you for keeping me broke :)
Cheers
Basically, we are looking at how many days the US Postal Service says that it will take to ship to a certain area of the world and then shipping that many days before August 13th. Our goal is for everyone to get them on that day. The reality is that some people might get it a day or two early or a few days late based on the vagaries of shipping through the USPS and through overseas postal services. But we will make our best estimate and should be pretty spot on for most folks.
-Lisa
Does that mean there isn't a purpose to having the faster shipping rates selected for this first book? (2nd day air, next day air, or priority mail) since everything will be aimed to arrive at the same time?
Congrats to all at Paizo!!! You all deserve it. It's great to see a group that is so customer oriented as your team is get the credit it so rightfully deserves.
On top of that, this is great news that nothing should keep us from getting even more of what we all crave.
I can't thank you all enough for getting me back into the game and getting a bunch of old friends together again at least once a week.
I just wanted to add my congratulations as well.
I did pre-order 3 weeks ago (via Amazon as I'm in the UK) and hope to get a first edition.
But anyhow - I went the cheap way (supersaver, amazon discount) and will spend the savings on the 13th for the pdf version. So I can't lose out.
Any idea which time of day that will be available. I doubt it will be midnight GMT.
Congrats again
Thod
Does that mean there isn't a purpose to having the faster shipping rates selected for this first book? (2nd day air, next day air, or priority mail) since everything will be aimed to arrive at the same time?Basically, we are looking at how many days the US Postal Service says that it will take to ship to a certain area of the world and then shipping that many days before August 13th. Our goal is for everyone to get them on that day. The reality is that some people might get it a day or two early or a few days late based on the vagaries of shipping through the USPS and through overseas postal services. But we will make our best estimate and should be pretty spot on for most folks.
-Lisa
Correct. We have a release date of August 13th for everybody, including ourselves. The only thing that faster shipping methods might help with is reliability. You know what they say, "When it absolutely, positively has to be there overnight!" The faster services almost without fail deliver a box in the time they say they will. Other services give an estimate which could be way off (we have had folks here in Seattle who normally get their shipment the next day take two weeks for the shipment to arrive, but that is an outlier).
-Lisa
Will you be selling them at 9 a.m. when the hall opens to the VIG crowd? :)At GenCon, we will start selling books on Thursday morning at 10am when the exhibit hall opens.
-Lisa
Yep. I forgot that VIG folks get in an hour early. I think I will be up and pacing around the room by 5 am! :)
-Lisa
*HAPPY DANCE!* *Goes back to studying the GenCon floor layout*
Right entry, near the front. *Begins brainstorming plans of distracting long lines of fans with bevy of HAWT gamer chicks, so I can sneak in a buy 2nd copy. Maybe shouting out a Leonard Nimoy sighting. Hmm...discards plan of shouting out 'Company X is having a limited time sale'*
Dark_Mistress
(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
Congrats guys! So did you guys spank the 4E release then?
Not sure I would go that far. But I actually expected them to sell out but like beta did. A month or two after release. This is very cool. I do wonder how many was in the print run, my guess is 25k to 50k and I leaning towards 50k. Mostly cause of a few comments made, some of the staff commented many times about the 50k DL's of beta and how they had so many preorders ect. Then add in Erik saying they made a ambitious print run and to me it just suggest they did a 50k print run.
Would be very cool if thats true.
The faster services almost without fail deliver a box in the time they say they will. Other services give an estimate which could be way off (we have had folks here in Seattle who normally get their shipment the next day take two weeks for the shipment to arrive, but that is an outlier).
-Lisa
Not to here, alas. UPS normally reschedule my delivery to later than they said, from Paizo.
I note that the product page is still showing the hard copy as available...
Not sure I would go that far. But I actually expected them to sell out but like beta did. A month or two after release. This is very cool. I do wonder how many was in the print run, my guess is 25k to 50k and I leaning towards 50k. Mostly cause of a few comments made, some of the staff commented many times about the 50k DL's of beta and how they had so many preorders ect. Then add in Erik saying they made a ambitious print run and to me it just suggest they did a 50k print run.Would be very cool if thats true.
My unsubstantiated guess that the Paizo people can't possibly confirm would be 10-15k. Before someone from the staff asks us to stop making unsubstantiated guesses in their show-off thread.
Right entry, near the front. *Begins brainstorming plans of distracting long lines of fans with bevy of HAWT gamer chicks, so I can sneak in a buy 2nd copy. Maybe shouting out a Leonard Nimoy sighting. Hmm...discards plan of shouting out 'Company X is having a limited time sale'*Will you be selling them at 9 a.m. when the hall opens to the VIG crowd? :)At GenCon, we will start selling books on Thursday morning at 10am when the exhibit hall opens.
-Lisa
Yep. I forgot that VIG folks get in an hour early. I think I will be up and pacing around the room by 5 am! :)
-Lisa
*HAPPY DANCE!* *Goes back to studying the GenCon floor layout*
FWIW, I could purchase 2 additional VIG companion badges for only about $32(?) dollars over the normal 4-day badge price... wonder if anyone else wants to get in early on Thursday. ;) You know. Just sayin'.
As to the layout, I hope the "whoosh" of people rushing to the Paizo booth doesn't knock anything over in the Art Show area!
We aren't going to announce the print run. Besides, it is so much fun watching everybody make their guesses and the rationale for why they think that! :)
I will say that some of you are low and some of you are high. :)
-Lisa
I think Paizo did an initial print run of 51,458,692 books. That's my guess. That's ONLY about $500 million in profit (give or take few dozen million). So what island are you buying Lisa?
We aren't going to announce the print run. Besides, it is so much fun watching everybody make their guesses and the rationale for why they think that! :)
I will say that some of you are low and some of you are high. :)
-Lisa
This is like guessing how many M&Ms are in the glass jar. I suck at that stuff. ;)
The number doesn't matter that much to me. I'm really happy that you guys are blown away by the quick sales. If you've impressed yourselves then that's really telling. See ya at Gen Con, to congratulate you there with more purchases!
FWIW, I could purchase 2 additional VIG companion badges for only about $32(?) dollars over the normal 4-day badge price... wonder if anyone else wants to get in early on Thursday. ;) You know. Just sayin'.
Hmmm...must discuss with my buddy at tonite's game when I'm sharing this great news with the other guys at the table.
Well for what it's worth, here's the info from Amazon.com as of the 10a PDT ranking:
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #102 in Books
Popular in these categories:
#1 in Books > Entertainment > Puzzles & Games > Role Playing & Fantasy
#1 in Books > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Gaming
#102 overall in book, and 2 #1 rankings. Looking good.
Basically, we are looking at how many days the US Postal Service says that it will take to ship to a certain area of the world and then shipping that many days before August 13th.
You're running out of time. Or already have. It says 6-10 days for priority. And I just know that this one will arrive late. Just know it. ;-)
I bet customs will hold it up or something.
Remember that the PDF for the core rulebook won't be available for download until August 13th, even if your book ships earlier.
I know. Quite rubbing my nose in it ;-)
Congrats guys! So did you guys spank the 4E release then?Not sure I would go that far. But I actually expected them to sell out but like beta did. A month or two after release. This is very cool. I do wonder how many was in the print run, my guess is 25k to 50k and I leaning towards 50k. Mostly cause of a few comments made, some of the staff commented many times about the 50k DL's of beta and how they had so many preorders ect. Then add in Erik saying they made a ambitious print run and to me it just suggest they did a 50k print run.
Would be very cool if thats true.
I concur with the 50K estimate and the reasoning behind it. If this is a sound guess that would be one heck of a sales feat in the current economy!
Well for what it's worth, here's the info from Amazon.com as of the 10a PDT ranking:
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #102 in Books
Popular in these categories:#1 in Books > Entertainment > Puzzles & Games > Role Playing & Fantasy
#1 in Books > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Gaming#102 overall in book, and 2 #1 rankings. Looking good.
Yup... we were #97 earlier... sandwiched between "Let the Great World Spin" and "The Power of Now".
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
My guess is exactly one killion.We aren't going to announce the print run. Besides, it is so much fun watching everybody make their guesses and the rationale for why they think that! :)
I will say that some of you are low and some of you are high. :)
-Lisa
3 Brazilian! OMG! How many is a brazilion?!
Well for what it's worth, here's the info from Amazon.com as of the 10a PDT ranking:
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #102 in Books
Popular in these categories:#1 in Books > Entertainment > Puzzles & Games > Role Playing & Fantasy
#1 in Books > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Gaming#102 overall in book, and 2 #1 rankings. Looking good.
Yup... we were #97 earlier... sandwiched between "Let the Great World Spin" and "The Power of Now".
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
You here that everyone? We are slacking (dropping in rating), everyone start perstering people to buy additional copies.