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Taldor Companion: Can't wait!
Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

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Can we please get some kind of leakage this way? :)

I mean, what's in that book? spoil me silly! :)

Paizo Employee Sean K Reynolds (Developer),

Ankheg avatar

Taldor is a bit late (a victim of the snowpocalypse and Chinese New Year), but should be chugging along now, and I expect we'll be talking about it in the blog very soon.

Paizo Employee Lisa Stevens (CEO),

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I saw the cover for it today and it looks SWEET!

-Lisa

BenS (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber),

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I'm very much looking forward to this. Something to remind me of the fallen glory of GH's Great Kingdom. Or Nyrond, for that matter.

Andoran SunshineGrrrl,

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Can we please get some kind of leakage this way? :)

I mean, what's in that book? spoil me silly! :)


I'm hoping for some more information on the two bardic colleges in Oppara.

Taldor Calixymenthillian (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Pact Hall Ritual 2 avatar

I can't wait to get my hands on this!

Personally, I'm hoping we get some more information about Princess Eutropia... sure, I've only read two sentences about her, but I can already tell she's got potential!

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

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I included small additional blurbs on the colleges and the Princess. It's not a lot, but there's certainly some interesting plot hooks buried in there. :-)

Taldor Theodric de LaMontagne,

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Calixymenthillian wrote:
I can't wait to get my hands on this!

Personally, I'm hoping we get some more information about Princess Eutropia... sure, I've only read two sentences about her, but I can already tell she's got potential!


Ah! spoken like a true Taldoran! I see you also wear the badge proudly!

Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
I included small additional blurbs on the colleges and the Princess. It's not a lot, but there's certainly some interesting plot hooks buried in there. :-)

Egg-sellent! easter egg-wise... :P

Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

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Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Taldor is a bit late (a victim of the snowpocalypse and Chinese New Year), but should be chugging along now, and I expect we'll be talking about it in the blog very soon.

Sean, take your time... I want this book to be like a finely aged wine. The longer you take with it before we get to pop the cover, the better... :)

Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

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Lisa Stevens wrote:
I saw the cover for it today and it looks SWEET!

-Lisa


Talking about cover... :)

Lisa, could a sneak peak at the cover be in the realm of possible forum leakage? :P :) :)

Taldor Calixymenthillian (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
I included small additional blurbs on the colleges and the Princess. It's not a lot, but there's certainly some interesting plot hooks buried in there. :-)

Well, not a lot is a lot better than nothing :).

Taldor Calixymenthillian (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Pact Hall Ritual 2 avatar

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Lisa Stevens wrote:
I saw the cover for it today and it looks SWEET!

-Lisa


Talking about cover... :)

Lisa, could a sneak peak at the cover be in the realm of possible forum leakage? :P :) :)


You might find this interesting, if you've not already seen it: Snagged from the Vault: Taldor, Echoes of Glory

Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

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Thank you!

herkles,

A 16 Hs Merisiel Final avatar

today's blog tells about where they got ideas for taldor, that being said, I myself can not wait to get this one.

Osirion Boerngrim (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber),

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This sounds very cool! I love the picture of Emperor Stavian III in the blog. He reminds me of Prince John from Disney's Robin Hood!

David Eitelbach,

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Boerngrim wrote:
This sounds very cool! I love the picture of Emperor Stavian III in the blog. He reminds me of Prince John from Disney's Robin Hood!

I was wondering why he looked familiar!

Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

Agat Finish avatar

sigh... waiting for this book is just too hard. The blog entry floors me... I just can't believe how much research has gone into the making of Taldor. I think Taldor will become the cornerstone "country" of the Pathfinder setting... this is where it all started, and I see that Paizo understands that getting Taldor "right" will have a positive snowball effect on all future country companions in the future!

Hurray for Paizo!

PS: a little surprised that Amsterdam was the inspiration... I would have thought a little 16th to 18th-century France would have been à propos... :)

Taldor Robert Hawkshaw (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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Just downloaded and skimmed through the pdf. My quick first impression: I really like the looks of this companion, it has history, current information, a city, a prestige class, traits, feats etc.. and everything fits together nicely to support a taldoran theme.

Especially like: taldor horse and taldor phalanx (nod to greece and rome), bearded vs unbearded (nod to russia), and the gnome run druid monitored logging program - good contrast to the Andoran logging struggle.

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

Thanks, Robert! Bearded vs unbearded is actually a nod to the Byzantine Empire where those classes actually existed. :-)

Taldor Robert Hawkshaw (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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Joshua J. Frost wrote:
Thanks, Robert! Bearded vs unbeareded is actually a nod to the Byzantine Empire where those classes actually existed. :-)

Ahhh, I stand corrected. I was thinking of the boyars, and the regulations over who could have full beards and mustaches etc...

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

I was unfamiliar with the boyars until just now. Thanks for the lesson! :-)

Taldor Robert Hawkshaw (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/cadwallon-rpg-reversible-gaming-tiles--the- upper-city-1-set-c

If you can find these tiles available anywhere, I think they are perfect for Oppara. Paizo used to sell them, but I gather they have gone out of print.

Taldor GeraintElberion (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber),

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I'm a little disappointed with Oppara.

Do all of Galorian's cities contain tightly packed slums with houses built on rooftops? Do they all have pseudo-Roman coliseums?

It just felt like large parts lacked individual character - Opera is so Chelaxian, surely the Opparans would look down on the taste for 'grand-guignol' and invest in classical music conservatoire instead? (not a specific gripe, more an example of the small things that could have made Oppara stand out that never manifested).

This was largely 'random standard Galorian city' with a few bells and whistles. I want a truly unique location for my Opparan character.

Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

Agat Finish avatar

Is there a section describing the heraldry shown in the art throughout the book?

Thanks!

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

No, though the heraldry are all variations of the crown-and-lion flag of Taldor.

Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

Agat Finish avatar

I see. It's just that I was trying to identify the parties on the cover's big battle, as well as other symbols sprinkled throughout the book. If they were just artistic liberties, I'm cool with that; I was just wondering if there was a deeper meaning to them or if they represented actual nations/provinces, etc. (and if so, if I could be pointed to a specific text section describing these factions)

Cheers!

Paizo Employee Sean K Reynolds (Developer),

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They represent various lords and such, who rule over different provinces, have various royal, noble, or semi-royal lineages, which of course reflect family ties and royalties. The choice to do different variations on the crown-and-lion was deliberate, but we deliberately didn't include a long boring list of nobles and noble families (and at this point it would be a LONG list) in a Companion product.

Taldor Calixymenthillian (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

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Sean K Reynolds wrote:
...in a Companion product.

Does that mean we'll be getting a more DM-centric Taldor product? :D

One of next year's adventure paths maybe?

Matthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32),

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Ok, the Mighty Porthmos and the Porthmos pirates...

similar sounding coincidence or a nod to Oliver Platt's "Mighty Porthos the Pirate." from Disney's three musketteers

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

Porthmos means "river" in ancient greek and the mighty comes from the Mighty Bosporous. :-)

Matthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32),

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Coincidence then, cool.

I've browsed my PDF, but am waiting for the dead tree version. For some reason the PDF didn't hold my ADDled brain like The Great Beyond did.

F33b,

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The product mentions "frontier prisons" on the eastern border. Are any of these locations shown on the region map included on the inside front cover?

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

No, but there is a frontier prison featured in Pathfinder Society scenario #12: Stay of Execution that's located just outside of the Sardis Township. Most of these frontier prisons are near other cities on the eastern frontier, though it's entirely possible for there to be hidden, remote, or just plain secret prisons as well.

Paizo Employee Sean K Reynolds (Developer),

Ankheg avatar

BTW we just got the book in the office today (thanks, Jeff), and it looks GREAT!

Cheliax KaeYoss (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion, Planet Stories Subscriber),

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I don't like Taldor. The country. The Companion.... I say a solid "meh"

I didn't get the "knights in shiny armour" vibe at all. It may have been that way thousands of years ago, but nowadays, it feels more like arrogant, small-mindet social backstabbers. The virtual slavery makes it worse.

Well, I love to hate lawful countries like that (this feels LN, i.e. worse than LE, because those at least never pretend not to be bastards).

Taldor Purple Dragon Knight (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

Agat Finish avatar

I have not read it yet, so I will reserve any comment on it until after it has been read thoroughly. Some companions can give you a good vibe just by looking at them; others require in-depth analysis. I suspect Taldor is one of the latter, as the art was not as great as some other companions, but the content has been researched thoroughly I hear.

Osirion Iron Sentinel,

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Thumbs up for a good product.

Cheliax Krome (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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Well, I have been pouring over Taldor now for a bit.

I love the art, and finally found where they talk about "civil wars" that reflect the two pictures of Taldoran soldiers fighting each other (p10).

Missed all these references to Frontier Prisons... that sounds like something I'd like to know more about.

As a Player friendly document I give it 5 of 5 stars.

The GM in me hopes there will be a bigger book someday.

Osirion Iron Sentinel,

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^
Same here. I'd love to see a Gamemastery module with some political intrigue, such as a Taldan lord (one of the "bearded") allied with some of the fey pirates preying on river traffic, or a foreign "cult" sponsoring revolution (or trying to set up a war between Taldor and Andor or Quadira), in service to a far darker motive.

Cheliax Krome (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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There are several things I'd like to see...

I'd love to see two noble houses fight, knights and soldiers on the battlefield. The druids picking a side, the dwarves picking the other side, and Andoran supporting an Unbearded making a bid for power over the remains of the noble fight. The PCs caught in a three way pinch and make their own way and determine who wins, maybe the PCs take over...

so much intrigue and room for just about anything you can imagine!

Cheliax kikai13 (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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Krome wrote:
There are several things I'd like to see...

I'd love to see two noble houses fight, knights and soldiers on the battlefield. The druids picking a side, the dwarves picking the other side, and Andoran supporting an Unbearded making a bid for power over the remains of the noble fight. The PCs caught in a three way pinch and make their own way and determine who wins, maybe the PCs take over...

so much intrigue and room for just about anything you can imagine!


I'd like to see you change that little crown that's next to your name. That's not the faction you've been supporting lately... ;P

Cheliax kikai13 (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

Kullen avatar

Sorry for the temporary threadjack--the Taldor Companion is awesome, and I enjoyed it completely. I started writing a novel based in Taldor, just because I liked this sourcebook so much! It (my novel) will probably never see print, but at least I can read and enjoy it.

Osirion Iron Sentinel,

TSR 95053-11 avatar

kikai13 wrote:
Sorry for the temporary threadjack--the Taldor Companion is awesome, and I enjoyed it completely. I started writing a novel based in Taldor, just because I liked this sourcebook so much! It (my novel) will probably never see print, but at least I can read and enjoy it.

^
Sounds good to me. Heck, I wouldn't mind reading it.

Cheliax Krome (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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kikai13 wrote:
Sorry for the temporary threadjack--the Taldor Companion is awesome, and I enjoyed it completely. I started writing a novel based in Taldor, just because I liked this sourcebook so much! It (my novel) will probably never see print, but at least I can read and enjoy it.

Really?? Drop me a copy! I'd love to read it.

And yeah well, the whole faction being supported and deity I follow are one heck of a weird combination anyway!

Cheliax Krome (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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Ok ok ok... changed the faction... are you happy now? I still LIKE Taldor better...

Qadira tadkil (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps, Planet Stories Subscriber),

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Joshua,

How is Iomedae viewed in Taldor? Does she have any sort of following? Is her Chelaxian heritage a stigma? Is she seen as competitive with Aroden and perhaps viewed with less enthuusiasm than one might think?

I am trying to place her in my Mendevian crusade campaign. One of my players wants to be from Taldor and a worshipper of Iomedae. We're trying to build his paladin in line with canon and were wondering what the role of Iomedae was in Taldor.

Also, how much does Taldor contribute to The Crusades in Mendev?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Tad Kilgore

Paizo Employee Joshua J. Frost (Events Manager),

Iconic Wizard avatar

tadkil wrote:
Joshua,

How is Iomedae viewed in Taldor? Does she have any sort of following? Is her Chelaxian heritage a stigma? Is she seen as competitive with Aroden and perhaps viewed with less enthuusiasm than one might think?

I am trying to place her in my Mendevian crusade campaign. One of my players wants to be from Taldor and a worshipper of Iomedae. We're trying to build his paladin in line with canon and were wondering what the role of Iomedae was in Taldor.

Also, how much does Taldor contribute to The Crusades in Mendev?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Tad Kilgore


Hey Tad,

Iomedae is viewed as just another god in Taldor. She's not important to the Empire and worship of her is rare inside Taldor's borders. Taldor's crusading days ended with the Even-Tongued Conquest, and the Empire spends most of its time boarding, taxing, and searching vessels headed to and from the Mendev crusades via the Sellen River rather than fighting that battle. Taldor is responsible for another hot spot of crusading, though: the Shining Crusade against the Whispering Tyrant.

All of that said, there's no reason your player can't be a Taldan worshipper of Iomedae. Maybe he's from a secret line of crusaders who worship her still (as a replacement for Aroden) and long for the days of Ancient Taldor and her noble crusades. Maybe he's the son of nobility who rails against the fact that Taldor ignores the obvious dangers of the Worldwound. There are still plenty of options for an Iomedae-worshiper in Taldor, even if the Empire doesn't spend a lot of time venerating her.

Cheliax Dark_Mistress (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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I liked the book but have to agree the age of knights wasn't the biggest vibe i felt. It sorta reminded me more of the end of the Roman Empire, before it was to late, but on it's death bed.

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