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This Is My Boomstick!
Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

I have an idea for a game I'd like to GM....characters from Earth that find their way into a fantasy setting. I'm working on the details right now, but before I get too invested in this type of conversion (D20 Modern to D&D) I'd like to see how much interest there would be for this kind of game.

Osirion seekerofshadowlight,

18 Undead-Fort-Commander C avatar

Humm what rule set? Ya could build it straight Pathfinder . Have you thought of allowing the players to use NPc classes? Or maybe just fighter, rogue and such? It might work well.

Fighter, rogue, barbarian, and expert would work great as would aristocrat. It's just a bit of refluff maybe take away all but light armor on them all

Also if ya have CoC d20 there is a really good class less system in there.

Osirion flash_cxxi (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32),

Calistria Final avatar

OOO... sooo... tempted... too... many... PbPs... gaaaaaah!

Ambrosia Slaad,

Blackgodskiss avatar

Twin Dragons wrote:
I have an idea for a game I'd like to GM....characters from Earth that find their way into a fantasy setting. I'm working on the details right now, but before I get too invested in this type of conversion (D20 Modern to D&D) I'd like to see how much interest there would be for this kind of game.

Just don't have an obnoxious baby unicorn tagging along with the party. Otherwise:

[ash]{chambers shotgun round} "Come get some."[/ash]

Sunset (Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

A 9 Trinia avatar

*Holds up hand. Waves arm around*

I'm in! fill out th' details an' I'll work somat up as a character.

Heh, who calls dibs on 'House-wares'? ;)

XD

Looks like Ambrosia Slaad has gotten in first.

Cheers!

Osirion flash_cxxi (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32),

Calistria Final avatar

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
[ash]{chambers shotgun round} "Come get some."[/ash]

[Ash]"Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart."[/Ash]

Oh and Ambrosia...

[Ash]"Gimme some sugar baby..."[/Ash] ;)

Ambrosia Slaad,

Blackgodskiss avatar

flash_cxxi wrote:
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
[ash]{chambers shotgun round} "Come get some."[/ash]

[Ash]"Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart."[/Ash]

Oh and Ambrosia...

[Ash]"Gimme some sugar baby..."[/Ash] ;)


Hmmm, for the next Adventure Path open-call, I'm really tempted for the rival adventuring group to all act like Ash clones.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

This would be a pure Pathfinder game. Characters would start off ats 3rd level Aristocrats, Experts or Warriors with some D20 Modern skills thrown in. The NPC Classes would have a liitle more oomph (I'm going to add in some class features even though they ususally have none).

I still need to track down a module or maybe use a pre-existing Adventure Path (Savage Tide comes to mind). In order to port over the Wealth system of D20 Modern (no worries to those that don't have D20 Modern book as there is a hypertext SRD of it). I'll get some more info posted up later.

At this point I'd like to hear character ideas. When the rules are all hammered out, I'll need at least 4 players, ideally 8.

Osirion seekerofshadowlight,

18 Undead-Fort-Commander C avatar

what about the expert class from Here That might work well for modern pc's

You can most likely count me in on this as it sounds pure awesome

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Some things to consider.

The characters will most likely be employees of a corporation doing research on parallel planes and their resources have allowed them to create a one time portal to the fantasy world. Of course the brainheads will need brawn to keep them alive so corporate goons will go with them.

Another option is to have the characters scooped up from a naturally occuring phenomenon that happens once every millenmia. This would allow character types of any sort (thoughh brainheads, brutes and politicos will still be needed). This provides a wealth of options background wise.

I'm not sure which option I want to go with yet, but I'm leaning towards the latter.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

seekerofshadowlight wrote:
what about the expert class from Here That might work well for modern pc's

I'm aware of it. I 'm probably going to use it for inspiration with the class features othat I'll be tacking on to the NPC classes.

Osirion flash_cxxi (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32),

Calistria Final avatar

I've always wanted to try a Hacker style character for modern. I'm not sure where he would fit into a Fantasy Setting, but I'd still be interested to give it a go if you think it could work. maybe he could be a tech guy hired to manage the computers involved in running the portal machine?
I'll keep my eye on this Thread in any case.

Sunset (Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

A 9 Trinia avatar

Woah, this looks like it's developin' pretty dang fast! Am I gon'na have t' make a'nuthr clone o' m'self?

*Has naffy idea*

Heh, any one got a link t' the D20 Modern hyper text-y thing?

*wanders off and searches Google*

Okay, I'm up fer any thing. Whether t'is an' expert who's walkin' int' th'
mix, or some one who's swept away an' lookin' fer their Toto.

Lookin' forw'd t' seein' more feed back an' stuff. ^_^

Cheers!

Doug Greer,

Blue Dragon avatar

This sounds like an interesting way to start an adventure. I've always been a fan of this type of story. It creates some confusion for the character as they try to decide if what is happening is real or just in their head.

I to have not played in a D20 modern game, so a gentle nudge to any resources I could find online would be appreciated.

Twin Dragons, I think that either option would be workable, but that perhaps the natural phenomenon option would be easier if a wider variety of fantasy classes are wanted.

A character that starts D20 Modern and then leaps into a Pathfinder class out of necessity, that should be really interesting. Count me in if ya still have space available.

Davi The Eccentric,

Twins avatar

Well, there's the SRD, but he already said we're using the NPC classes with some changed skill lists to approximate.

Oh, and I'm interested too.

Davi The Eccentric,

Twins avatar

So, game dies after I post interest? How typical...

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Davi The Eccentric wrote:
So, game dies after I post interest? How typical...

I'm still working on the details. Expect some material to be posted later.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Okay, here’s the skinny on creation of Earth heroes.

Human characters only; racial retraining will be allowed further in-game.
All characters start off as 3rd level Earth aristocrats, experts or warriors.

The following skills are added to the Pathfinder rules to simulate an Earth background; Computer Use, Craft, Demolitions, Drive, Investigate, Knowledge, Navigate, Perform, Pilot, Profession, Repair and Research.

Earth Aristocrat
BAB: As Pathfinder Aristocrat
HD: As Pathfinder Aristocrat (max HP per HD)
Saves: As Pathfinder Aristocrat
Skills: Choose any 10 to count as class skills. / Ranks per Level: 6 + Int modifier
1st - Skill Emphasis (Ex): Choose one skill; you receive a +3 competence bonus on all checks made with the chosen skill. This bonus does not allow you to make checks for a trained only skill if you have no ranks in the skill.
2nd - Deceptive, Educated, or Meticulous (see below)
3rd - Charm (Ex): You get a +3 competence bonus on all Charisma based skill checks.

Earth Expert
BAB: As Pathfinder Expert
HD: As Pathfinder Expert (max HP per HD)
Saves: As Pathfinder Expert
Skills: Choose any 12 to count as class skills. / Ranks per Level: 8 + Int modifier
1st - Skill Focus (any skill)
2nd - Great Fortitude, Iron Will, or Lightning Reflexes
3rd - Empathy: You a knack for being sensitive to the feelings and thoughts of others without having those feelings and thoughts communicated in any objectively explicit manner, which provides you with a +3 bonus on checks involving interaction skills (Bluff, Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Perform, and Sense Motive), provided you spend 1 round observing the target prior to making the skill check.

Earth Warrior
BAB: As Pathfinder Warrior
HD: As Pathfinder Warrior (max HP per HD)
Saves: As Pathfinder Warrior
Skills: Choose any 7 to count as class skills. / Ranks per Level: 4 + Int modifier
1st - Bonus Combat Feat
2nd - Improved Initiative, Toughness or Weapon Finesse
3rd - Brawl (Ex): You receive a +2 competence bonus on your unarmed attack rolls and your unarmed strike deals damage equal to 1d8 + your Strength modifier.

Meticulous
You are thorough and painstakingly complete.
Benefit: You gain a +2 bonus on all Linguistics and Perception checks.

Davi The Eccentric,

Twins avatar

Groovy. Put me down for a good old-fashioned journalist. (Expert 3, plenty of social skills, Knowledge skills and Craft(Writing) at the least)

Just checking, how are we doing stats?

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Davi The Eccentric wrote:
Just checking, how are we doing stats?

Whoops, thought I forgot something.

Stats will be 28 point buy (I know that's 3 points higher than epic fantasy, but trust me, I know what I'm doing here).

Osirion flash_cxxi (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32),

Calistria Final avatar

Davi The Eccentric wrote:
Groovy. Put me down for a good old-fashioned journalist. (Expert 3, plenty of social skills, Knowledge skills and Craft(Writing) at the least)

Cool. So a Journalist covering the Portal event and a Computer Tech/Hacker (also Expert) working on the computer side of it...

What else we got people?

Otto Samir,

Mad Scientist Final avatar

Speaking of which, I'm done with the actual sheet except for equipment.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Otto Samir wrote:
Speaking of which, I'm done with the actual sheet except for equipment.

Post it up and let me look it over. Then I'll assign equipment to your character.

Sunset (Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

A 9 Trinia avatar

*waves hand* Still interested! but Real Life has me workin' over th' time every one else 'll be creatin' an' stuff. So I won't get time t' do nuthin' till middle of next week, earliest. :(

Cheers!

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Sunset wrote:
*waves hand* Still interested! but Real Life has me workin' over th' time every one else 'll be creatin' an' stuff. So I won't get time t' do nuthin' till middle of next week, earliest. :(

Cheers!


No worries, like I said, I'm hoping to get a group of 8 characters. This gives people plenty of time to create characters. I also need a little time to the get campaign organized.

Also I need to look over all character submissions and in equipment . That could take a half a day each.

This campaign will get off the ground. That's a promise, and I never break my promises!

Davi The Eccentric,

Twins avatar

Twin Dragons wrote:
Otto Samir wrote:
Speaking of which, I'm done with the actual sheet except for equipment.

Post it up and let me look it over. Then I'll assign equipment to your character.

Well, if you're talking about my character sheet, it's in the alias. (Here, if you don't feel like scrolling back up.)

S.c.a.r.l.e.t.,

A 9 Trinia avatar

Okay, this is the work up/new character page.

To give credit where credit is due, follow the link and enjoy the read. :)

Link

The gentleman's stuff is quite good.

This is all I have time for atm.

Cheers!

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Davi The Eccentric wrote:
Well, if you're talking about my character sheet, it's in the alias. (Here, if you don't feel like scrolling back up.)

That's not much to go on. I'dprefer if everyone would at least give me three paragraphs of character history/background. It will make it easier to assign equipment.

The paragraphs to have to be very long, just enough to cover the basics.

Also, please include the text of the Empathy class feature in the the character sheet somewhere.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

S.c.a.r.l.e.t. wrote:
Okay, this is the work up/new character page.

To give credit where credit is due, follow the link and enjoy the read. :)

Link

The gentleman's stuff is quite good.

This is all I have time for atm.

Cheers!


ROFL.....OMG!

Otto Samir,

Mad Scientist Final avatar

Well, I've got a basic sorta-kinda background now. Let's hope it's good enough...

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Otto Samir wrote:
Well, I've got a basic sorta-kinda background now. Let's hope it's good enough...

It's a riot...I love it.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Okay Otto, here's your equipment.
---------------------------------
.
.
.
Weapons
Pathfinder (.22 Revolver)
- Damage: 2D4
- Critical: 20
- Type: Ballistic
- Range Increment: 20 ft. (maximum 10 Increments)
- Rate of Fire: Semiautomatic
- Magazine: 6 cylinder
- Size: Tiny
- Weight: 1 lb.

Armor
Concelable Vest
- Equipment AC Bonus: +4
- Max Dex Bonus: +4
- Armor Penalty: -3
- Speed: 25 ft.
- Weight: 4 lbs.

Other Equipment:
Contactor's Field Bag
- Laptop (5 lbs)
- Digital Audio Recorder (1 lb)
- PDA (1/2 lb)
- Digital Camera (1/2 lb.)
- Lockpick Set (1 lb)
- Map, Road Atlas (1 lb)
- Flashlight (1 lb.)

Range Pack (0/4/4/4/4/4/4 lbs)
- Business Outfit x2 (6 lbs)
- Casual Outfit (2 lbs)

Miscellaneous
- Shoulder Holsster
- Cell Phone (1 lb)
-- Spare battery (1/2 lb.)

Add any other items you think you'd have on your character on a regular basis. The range pack is in the trunk of whatever vehicle Otto drives. You are assumed to take your Field Bag everywhere you go.

In addition yet get the follo9wing bonus feats: Medium Armor Proficiency, Personal Firearms Proficiency

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

BTW guys, the skill system is to work exactly like Pathfinder for all Earth heroes; Max ranks equal to class level, +3 for trained skills + any other bonuses (ab scores, feats).

Virvar,

A 11 FINAL avatar

This sounds really cool, count me in.
I will either be a brawling warrior or an excentric inventor (expert).
I have a question though. what happen when we progress in level? Do we level up in PC classes? do we convert our NPC levels to PC levels? or stay with our NPC class?

Valegrim,

39 Efreeti avatar

Do you have all eight of your characters yet?

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Virvar wrote:
This sounds really cool, count me in.
I will either be a brawling warrior or an excentric inventor (expert).

Welcome aboard.

Virvar wrote:
I have a question though. what happen when we progress in level? Do we level up in PC classes? do we convert our NPC levels to PC levels? or stay with our NPC class?

You will level up in PC classes and at some point I will use the retraining rules. This will allow you to change out your NPC levels for Pathfinder PC levels if you wish.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Valegrim wrote:
Do you have all eight of your characters yet?

No, ther'es still plenty of space.

Valegrim,

39 Efreeti avatar

just curious; is this a joint Corporate/Military project; like for example; Ratheon; Grumman; Boeing and many other have military contracts and do research on secure military sites which would allow some military tech and soilder types to get sucked in...just a thought; be a bit Star Gate-ish heeh.

I am interested but my knowledge of Pathfinder is fairly small other than I was a subscriber to the first three publications.

_________

"sure, I said the words....sorta"

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Valegrim wrote:
just curious; is this a joint Corporate/Military project; like for example; Ratheon; Grumman; Boeing and many other have military contracts and do research on secure military sites which would allow some military tech and soilder types to get sucked in...just a thought; be a bit Star Gate-ish heeh.

Regardless of which route I go (corporate invention or natural phenomenon) the group will need muscle to survive straight out. Military type backgrounds won't be excluded as character submissions.

Valegrim wrote:
I am interested but my knowledge of Pathfinder is fairly small other than I was a subscriber to the first three publications.

You can find the Pathfinder SRD here and here. That should help you brush up on the rules. Plus if there is anything that confuses you, I'll do my best to answer your questions.

Davi The Eccentric,

Twins avatar

Well, there is a SRD, but the only really big difference is the skill system. (You don't get four times the standard amount of points at first level, you just get +3 bonus to class skills you put points into, class and cross-class skills cost the same)

There are a few changes in some feats, but overall it's easy to understand if you understand 3.5.

EDIT: Or you could, you know, just look at the GM's post right above mine.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

flash_cxxi wrote:
I've always wanted to try a Hacker style character for modern. I'm not sure where he would fit into a Fantasy Setting, but I'd still be interested to give it a go if you think it could work. maybe he could be a tech guy hired to manage the computers involved in running the portal machine?
I'll keep my eye on this Thread in any case.

Think about this, what really is a spellcaster? If I had to use modern terms to describe them, I'd call them reality hackers. They 'hack' the natural laws of physics to produce a desired effect. Most 'spells' would be 'hacks'.

So, 'Gate' would be a hack to create a wormhole between worlds, no matter how far apart they are from each other in superspace.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Doug Greer wrote:
A character that starts D20 Modern and then leaps into a Pathfinder class out of necessity, that should be really interesting. Count me in if ya still have space available.

You still interested?

Virvar,

A 11 FINAL avatar

Twin Dragons wrote:

You will level up in PC classes and at some point I will use the retraining rules. This will allow you to change out your NPC levels for Pathfinder PC levels if you wish.

Great. That leads to another question. Would you allow the artificer class from Tome of Secrets? I'm thinking i will play an engineer (expert) and i think the artificer is a cool class wich would fit well with an engineer in a fantasy world.

If you don't have Tome of Secrets or won't allow the class it's cool, i will think of something else.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Virvar wrote:
Great. That leads to another question. Would you allow the artificer class from Tome of Secrets? I'm thinking i will play an engineer (expert) and i think the artificer is a cool class wich would fit well with an engineer in a fantasy world.

If you don't have Tome of Secrets or won't allow the class it's cool, i will think of something else.


I'm not too fond of the Tome of Secrets classes, but I want my players to be happy. Are you familiar with Eberron? There is a prestige class called the Renegade Mastermaker which makes the PC more like a living construct.

I'm going to rework the ToS Artificer a bit, giving it some of the Renegade Mastermake class features and abilities. If the changes are too drastic for your taste I'll allow you and everyone else that is interested to use *only* the Artificer class from ToS.

Virvar,

A 11 FINAL avatar

Twin Dragons wrote:
Virvar wrote:
Great. That leads to another question. Would you allow the artificer class from Tome of Secrets? I'm thinking i will play an engineer (expert) and i think the artificer is a cool class wich would fit well with an engineer in a fantasy world.

If you don't have Tome of Secrets or won't allow the class it's cool, i will think of something else.


I'm not too fond of the Tome of Secrets classes, but I want my players to be happy. Are you familiar with Eberron? There is a prestige class called the Renegade Mastermaker which makes the PC more like a living construct.

I'm going to rework the ToS Artificer a bit, giving it some of the Renegade Mastermake class features and abilities. If the changes are too drastic for your taste I'll allow you and everyone else that is interested to use *only* the Artificer class from ToS.


I don't have the book with the renegade mastermaker, but i quickly googled it. It sound exactly like what i was thinking with the artificer! I can imagine this engineer going nuts about the option to turn himself into a half machine.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Virvar wrote:
I don't have the book with the renegade mastermaker, but i quickly googled it. It sound exactly like what i was thinking with the artificer! I can imagine this engineer going nuts about the option to turn himself into a half machine.

Excellent. I'll get crackin' on it.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

Artificer class for Pathfinder available here.

S.c.a.r.l.e.t.,

A 9 Trinia avatar

Twin Dragons wrote:
Okay, here’s the skinny on creation of Earth heroes.

Human characters only; racial retraining will be allowed further in-game.
All characters start off as 3rd level Earth aristocrats, experts or warriors.
Earth Aristocrat
BAB: As Pathfinder Aristocrat
HD: As Pathfinder Aristocrat (max HP per HD)
Saves: As Pathfinder Aristocrat
Skills: Choose any 10 to count as class skills. / Ranks per Level: 6 + Int modifier
1st - Skill Emphasis (Ex): Choose one skill; you receive a +3 competence bonus on all checks made with the chosen skill. This bonus does not allow you to make checks for a trained only skill if you have no ranks in the skill.
2nd - Deceptive, Educated, or Meticulous (see below)
3rd - Charm (Ex): You get a +3 competence bonus on all Charisma based skill checks.

Earth Expert
BAB: As Pathfinder Expert
HD: As Pathfinder Expert (max HP per HD)
Saves: As Pathfinder Expert
Skills: Choose any 12 to count as class skills. / Ranks per Level: 8 + Int modifier
1st - Skill Focus (any skill)
2nd - Great Fortitude, Iron Will, or Lightning Reflexes
3rd - Empathy: You a knack for being sensitive to the feelings and thoughts of others without having those feelings and thoughts communicated in any objectively explicit manner, which provides you with a +3 bonus on checks involving interaction skills (Bluff, Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Perform, and Sense Motive), provided you spend 1 round observing the target prior to making the skill check.

Earth Warrior
BAB: As Pathfinder Warrior
HD: As Pathfinder Warrior (max HP per HD)
Saves: As Pathfinder Warrior
Skills: Choose any 7 to count as class skills. / Ranks per Level: 4 + Int modifier
1st - Bonus Combat Feat
2nd - Improved Initiative, Toughness or Weapon Finesse
3rd - Brawl (Ex): You receive a +2 competence bonus on your unarmed attack rolls and your unarmed strike deals damage equal to 1d8 + your Strength modifier.

Meticulous
You are thorough and painstakingly complete.
Benefit: You gain a +2 bonus on all Linguistics and Perception checks.


Okeys, sorry fer draggin' all tha down int' me reply...but...

With'n the Feats, we get these plus we get a feat at first level and a feat at third level, right? Just askin', since it'll affect whut feats I'm choosin' fer 'm'self', as it were. ^_^

So's that'd be First Level: Bonus Feat Plus Level Feat. Fer example, then?

I'm thinkin' o' goin'' Earth Warrior' type. ^.~

AM gettin' t' work on me back ground an' such. Tahnk'es fer yer patience an' un'erstan'in'. *bows*

Hmmm, seem's t' be a thing aboot how much a bod c'n be puttin' in'a post, now that's interesting.

Doug Greer,

Blue Dragon avatar

I've just about got my character stats and background done. If I get a couple of moments of free time tonight I should be able to get them posted.

Twin Dragons,

Red-Dragon avatar

S.c.a.r.l.e.t. wrote:
Okeys, sorry fer draggin' all tha down int' me reply...but...

With'n the Feats, we get these plus we get a feat at first level and a feat at third level, right? Just askin', since it'll affect whut feats I'm choosin' fer 'm'self', as it were. ^_^

So's that'd be First Level: Bonus Feat Plus Level Feat. Fer example, then?


Correct.

S.c.a.r.l.e.t. wrote:
I'm thinkin' o' goin'' Earth Warrior' type. ^.~

AM gettin' t' work on me back ground an' such. Tahnk'es fer yer patience an' un'erstan'in'. *bows*


You know whats funny? When it comes to Real Life stuff I'm not that patient, but when it comes to gaming.....heh.

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