The origional miniseries is very much a Nazi allagory. The swastica-like symbol of the visitors, the youth organization, the persecution of scientists in place of the Jews, the propaganda machine. The actual story is taken from the 1935 novel It Can't Happen Here. Network producers wanted a science fiction show, so the facists in the script were changed to lizard-aliens and V was born.

I pretty much agree with everything said here. Not only was the pace too fast overall (why skip weeks ahead, instead of showing how people start to interact with the Vs), and the reveal happened way to early in the series, but why let the main characters be given the secret on a silver platter by having an already existing resistance group recruit them?

It would have been a lot more rewarding to have them discover what was really going on a piece at a time and FORM the resistance over the course of the first half season.

We are talking about a show made for American audiences, right?

An audience that has proved time and again to have no patience for character development and no grasp of subtlety. Joe the Plumber can not be bothered with that sort of high-brow tripe. No, what Wal-Mart shoppers want is hot chicks and explosions.

We are talking about a show made for American audiences, right?

An audience that has proved time and again to have no patience for character development and no grasp of subtlety. Joe the Plumber can not be bothered with that sort of high-brow tripe. No, what Wal-Mart shoppers want is hot chicks and explosions.

We are talking about a show made for American audiences, right?

An audience that has proved time and again to have no patience for character development and no grasp of subtlety. Joe the Plumber can not be bothered with that sort of high-brow tripe. No, what Wal-Mart shoppers want is hot chicks and explosions.

We are talking about a show made for American audiences, right?

An audience that has proved time and again to have no patience for character development and no grasp of subtlety. Joe the Plumber can not be bothered with that sort of high-brow tripe. No, what Wal-Mart shoppers want is hot chicks and explosions.

The only alien invader that stands a chance of taking over the world would be Invader Zim.

I might even help him in exchange for five minutes alone in the snack pod of the Massive.

The only alien invader that stands a chance of taking over the world would be Invader Zim.

I might even help him in exchange for five minutes alone in the snack pod of the Massive.

I also liked the juxtaposition of some of the scenes.

No indication of time lapse or anything, just an immediate switch to something that I'm guessing is at least a week or 2 later. Then in the last 10 minutes of the show we are back to them just landing.

Elizabeth Mitchell aka Juliet from LOST, oh yea! ;)

Innara and Wash are evil.
Innara and Wash are evil?
Innara and Wash aren't supposed to be evil!

And I'm pretty sure Torry is a cylon, er, visitor, too.

After watching the second installment, it seems like they did a slow down on the pacing. Where the first episode had too much in it, this one felt like it didn't have quite enough.

I'm having trouble with the priest character. The black suit and collar seem like nothing more than a costume, and he's only himself in street clothes. I would really like to see an active crisis of faith, rather than just the few lines of dialogue he had with the older priest in the first episode.

The FBI agent is, so far, the most interesting character to me. Conversely, her son is such a flat character; he's a very stereotypical teenager and doesn't offer much beyond overactive hormones and teenage rebellion.

The FBI agent is, so far, the most interesting character to me. Conversely, her son is such a flat character; he's a very stereotypical teenager and doesn't offer much beyond overactive hormones and teenage rebellion.

Shadowborn wrote:

The FBI agent is, so far, the most interesting character to me. Conversely, her son is such a flat character; he's a very stereotypical teenager and doesn't offer much beyond overactive hormones and teenage rebellion.

I think the son isn't there to be an interesting character, but instead to be another difficulty for the FBI agent - being in the resistance and having her son working for the Vs. And eventually having to convince him not to turn her in when he finds something out. Or if they go really dark, having to kill him so he doesn't turn her in. (I'd have expected that from Battlestar Galactica, but with V, I'm guessing they won't go there.)

JoelF847 wrote:

Shadowborn wrote:

The FBI agent is, so far, the most interesting character to me. Conversely, her son is such a flat character; he's a very stereotypical teenager and doesn't offer much beyond overactive hormones and teenage rebellion.

I think the son isn't there to be an interesting character, but instead to be another difficulty for the FBI agent - being in the resistance and having her son working for the Vs. And eventually having to convince him not to turn her in when he finds something out. Or if they go really dark, having to kill him so he doesn't turn her in. (I'd have expected that from Battlestar Galactica, but with V, I'm guessing they won't go there.)

Thinking of the original, either he is going to get grabbed to be consumed and the agent will have to try to find him or he'll get impregnanted with half-V kid or both. I'm just waiting to see how they do the whole pregnancy thing.

Innara and Wash are evil.
Innara and Wash are evil?
Innara and Wash aren't supposed to be evil!

And I'm pretty sure Torry is a cylon, er, visitor, too.

Ok, brain just speculated on hot Tory/Innara scene...

I'll be in my bunk.

Shadowborn wrote:

The FBI agent is, so far, the most interesting character to me. Conversely, her son is such a flat character; he's a very stereotypical teenager and doesn't offer much beyond overactive hormones and teenage rebellion.

I think the son isn't there to be an interesting character, but instead to be another difficulty for the FBI agent - being in the resistance and having her son working for the Vs. And eventually having to convince him not to turn her in when he finds something out. Or if they go really dark, having to kill him so he doesn't turn her in. (I'd have expected that from Battlestar Galactica, but with V, I'm guessing they won't go there.)

So I saw an interview with...wasshername, Torry? The peace ambassador coordinator that was Supergirl on Smallville. She had an interview on G4 and said that they only shot 4 episodes for this season. Seems like a relatively small window of time to really get into the story. I wonder why they decided to only go for 4 and not a full season's worth?

JoelF847 wrote:

Shadowborn wrote:

The FBI agent is, so far, the most interesting character to me. Conversely, her son is such a flat character; he's a very stereotypical teenager and doesn't offer much beyond overactive hormones and teenage rebellion.

I think the son isn't there to be an interesting character, but instead to be another difficulty for the FBI agent - being in the resistance and having her son working for the Vs. And eventually having to convince him not to turn her in when he finds something out. Or if they go really dark, having to kill him so he doesn't turn her in. (I'd have expected that from Battlestar Galactica, but with V, I'm guessing they won't go there.)

Hmm, maybe. But giving a flat character too much time on camera makes for relatively boring and predictable TV. Right now I'm hoping he gets eaten.

So I saw an interview with...wasshername, Torry? The peace ambassador coordinator that was Supergirl on Smallville. She had an interview on G4 and said that they only shot 4 episodes for this season. Seems like a relatively small window of time to really get into the story. I wonder why they decided to only go for 4 and not a full season's worth?

Last night

I don't think the fifth column is as 'nice' as the 80's version.

Last night
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I don't think the fifth column is as 'nice' as the 80's version.

Oh yeah. The 5th column looks to be a serious bunch of people. I had flashes of Total Recall in my head at a certain part of the episode. I'm think they are more political based as opposed to religious based as they were in the original series. This one episode made my extremely skeptical wife a believer. Here's hoping it doesn't get yanked, and that I can find the time during the holiday season to watch the first 4 eps in a "mini-series" format.