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Ninja Discussion - Round 1

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Ki based off of Cha? Oh Please! Jan 27, 2011, 06:53 AM by Hexcaliber — Ævux, beej67, Shadow_of_death and 50 others	203 posts	Last post: Jul 30, 2011, 04:55 PM by Shadow_of_death

Vanishing Trick = Obnoxious AND Overpowered Jul 12, 2011, 11:41 PM by Erick Wilson — Erick Wilson, Shadow_of_death, Cynis_Kaden and 29 others	129 posts	Last post: Jul 21, 2011, 01:00 PM by Charender

Ninja vs. Rogue issues boiled down Feb 24, 2011, 08:37 PM by James Bolton — The Shaman, InfernosReaper, James Bolton and 26 others	58 posts	Last post: Jul 14, 2011, 03:08 PM by The Shaman

Trapfinding Ninja Jul 12, 2011, 08:25 AM by rando1000 — Asteldian Caliskan, rando1000 and Phasics	5 posts	Last post: Jul 14, 2011, 01:18 AM by Asteldian Caliskan

Help me make a Ninja Jun 30, 2011, 10:24 PM by sphar — sphar, Hayato Ken, calagnar and 7 others	38 posts	Last post: Jul 8, 2011, 01:13 PM by sphar

Strength Ninja Jul 7, 2011, 06:42 AM by Phasics — Asteldian Caliskan, Phasics, sphar and Hama	11 posts	Last post: Jul 8, 2011, 09:16 AM by sphar

[Actual Play] Ninja playtesting, Kingmaker Path (Moved to Playtest Results - Round 1) Jun 30, 2011, 01:55 AM by RoseTheShort —	4 posts	Last post: Jul 17, 2011, 07:54 AM by Purplefixer

Level 8: Imp. Uncanny Dodge; Level 6: Walk on Water & Lava?! Jun 8, 2011, 10:16 AM by W E Ray — W E Ray, Shadow_of_death, Hayato Ken and 4 others	14 posts	Last post: Jun 28, 2011, 08:41 PM by Shadow_of_death

Do Rogue archetypes work with the Ninja? Jun 23, 2011, 05:49 AM by Emn1ty — Emn1ty, ItoSaithWebb, Shuriken Nekogami and 3 others	7 posts	Last post: Jun 27, 2011, 09:48 PM by ItoSaithWebb

Can Ninja take the Extra Rogue Talent feat? Jun 26, 2011, 06:23 PM by ItoSaithWebb — Chris Kenney, ItoSaithWebb, BigNorseWolf and Starbuck_II	6 posts	Last post: Jun 26, 2011, 10:40 PM by Chris Kenney

Hidden Master over powered Jun 21, 2011, 10:08 AM by Will Pratt — Will Pratt, Ravingdork, Hayato Ken and 3 others	9 posts	Last post: Jun 22, 2011, 03:49 AM by Hayato Ken

Ninja Death Attack Jan 25, 2011, 06:47 AM by Ardenup — Kaiyanwang, Lobolusk, Hayato Ken and 3 others	7 posts	Last post: Jun 16, 2011, 05:38 PM by Lobolusk

Assassinate versus Death Attack; An indepth comparison Jan 26, 2011, 10:16 AM by Ravingdork — Ravingdork, Death Blinder, James Bolton and 4 others	8 posts	Last post: Jun 16, 2011, 11:23 AM by Death Blinder

Ninja's can't be Rogues and vice versa right? Jun 15, 2011, 04:20 PM by Tilquinith — VM mercenario, Chris Mortika, ItoSaithWebb and Tilquinith	4 posts	Last post: Jun 16, 2011, 09:49 AM by VM mercenario

Where are the Black Eggs? Jun 15, 2011, 08:33 PM by ItoSaithWebb — Jaerc and ItoSaithWebb	2 posts	Last post: Jun 15, 2011, 11:47 PM by Jaerc

Pressure Points / Sneak Attack Jun 10, 2011, 06:00 AM by Robich — Hayato Ken, Ksorkrax, VM mercenario and 3 others	13 posts	Last post: Jun 14, 2011, 09:06 AM by Hayato Ken

Does this help the ninja issues? Jun 9, 2011, 10:43 PM by The_Cloaked — The_Cloaked	1 post	Last post: Jun 9, 2011, 10:43 PM by The_Cloaked

Shouldn't the ninja have Survival? No trace uses it Mar 27, 2011, 11:58 AM by Yescas — InfernosReaper, SmiloDan, WithoutHisFoot and 8 others	14 posts	Last post: Jun 3, 2011, 06:41 PM by SmiloDan

Why sudden strike should be kept Mar 6, 2011, 04:42 PM by Hama — InfernosReaper, SmiloDan, The_Normal_Anomaly and 7 others	16 posts	Last post: Jun 3, 2011, 06:36 PM by SmiloDan

Vanish balance idea Jan 24, 2011, 10:33 PM by Mojorat — Midna, Shadow_of_death, Hayato Ken and 8 others	29 posts	Last post: Jun 2, 2011, 05:45 PM by Midna

A few balance ideas for Ninja / Rogue Mar 1, 2011, 05:47 AM by InfernosReaper — InfernosReaper, Shadow_of_death, Hayato Ken and 4 others	22 posts	Last post: May 24, 2011, 01:47 PM by Alceste008

Shuriken and Ki Charge May 18, 2011, 07:53 AM by Zerumm — Shadow_of_death, Hayato Ken and Zerumm	8 posts	Last post: May 20, 2011, 12:42 PM by Shadow_of_death

Necklace of Ki serenity May 19, 2011, 10:24 PM by Shadow_of_death — Hayato Ken and Shadow_of_death	2 posts	Last post: May 20, 2011, 04:21 AM by Hayato Ken

Question about forgotten trick May 19, 2011, 08:40 PM by Battlebrew — Battlebrew and Austin Morgan	3 posts	Last post: May 19, 2011, 08:47 PM by Battlebrew

Playtest of Ninja class: results May 18, 2011, 02:32 AM by Mobspawner — Shadow_of_death and Mobspawner	2 posts	Last post: May 18, 2011, 03:17 AM by Shadow_of_death

Great ninja builds Mar 5, 2011, 09:29 PM by Ravingdork — Shadow_of_death, Midna, Zerumm and 5 others	9 posts	Last post: May 17, 2011, 05:20 PM by Midna

Samurai / Ninja update question Mar 8, 2011, 04:58 AM by Merlin_47 — Merlin_47, Razz, judas 147 and 13 others	27 posts	Last post: May 17, 2011, 05:11 PM by Midna

Forgotten Trick issues Jan 24, 2011, 11:11 PM by Doomed Hero — Hayato Ken, James Risner, Matthew Morris and 16 others	33 posts	Last post: May 12, 2011, 07:24 PM by matiez

Question on ki May 1, 2011, 09:17 AM by Battlebrew — Battlebrew, ZappoHisbane and Ksorkrax	4 posts	Last post: May 1, 2011, 12:09 PM by ZappoHisbane

Light steps and stealth Apr 20, 2011, 06:07 PM by Hayato Ken — Hayato Ken and InfernosReaper	4 posts	Last post: Apr 29, 2011, 07:18 AM by InfernosReaper

Ninja Trick question Apr 21, 2011, 09:52 AM by shalandar — Ravingdork, KaeYoss, InfernosReaper and 4 others	8 posts	Last post: Apr 23, 2011, 05:09 AM by KaeYoss

Equipment needed: Kunai, giant shuriken... Abilities needed: Genjutsu Feb 1, 2011, 05:02 AM by super_radish — sasuke sarutobi, Steelfiredragon, Doomed Hero and 23 others	68 posts	Last post: Apr 20, 2011, 09:45 AM by Blackvial

Using Ki Apr 10, 2011, 04:17 AM by Robich — Hayato Ken, InfernosReaper, Robich and 2 others	19 posts	Last post: Apr 17, 2011, 06:14 AM by InfernosReaper

Ninja's and poison? Apr 14, 2011, 06:36 PM by dvspoptart — Hayato Ken and dvspoptart	2 posts	Last post: Apr 15, 2011, 08:02 AM by Hayato Ken

What would your Katana do? Apr 2, 2011, 08:05 AM by Marius696 — Pendagast, Stynkk, Davor and 25 others	86 posts	Last post: Apr 10, 2011, 06:51 PM by Aelryinth

Wall Jumping Apr 1, 2011, 12:43 PM by lenankamp — lenankamp, InfernosReaper, Mistah J and 3 others	9 posts	Last post: Apr 5, 2011, 09:42 PM by Mistah J

The real problem with the Ninja... Feb 22, 2011, 07:05 PM by Razz — gamer-printer, ciretose, Shadow_of_death and 26 others	163 posts	Last post: Apr 1, 2011, 07:17 AM by InfernosReaper

Assassins Equal Evil. Ninjas Don't? Feb 1, 2011, 12:27 PM by Sleep-Walker — TriOmegaZero, Pendagast, Sleep-Walker and 51 others	115 posts	Last post: Mar 31, 2011, 09:51 AM by TriOmegaZero

Ninja? Mar 28, 2011, 07:25 PM by Robich — Robich and TriOmegaZero	3 posts	Last post: Mar 28, 2011, 07:33 PM by Robich

Poison Smoke Bombs Mar 23, 2011, 09:26 PM by Quandary — Quandary and Ravingdork	3 posts	Last post: Mar 23, 2011, 09:53 PM by Quandary

Buffing the base classes to balance the UC classes is poor game design Feb 13, 2011, 05:29 AM by BPorter — Gruuuu, BPorter, Kamelguru and 10 others	17 posts	Last post: Mar 23, 2011, 05:31 AM by Viktyr Korimir

Ninja without hand-to-hand martial arts not a Ninja Feb 9, 2011, 03:38 AM by Maddigan — hida_jiremi, Maddigan, Viktyr Korimir and 11 others	19 posts	Last post: Mar 23, 2011, 05:23 AM by Viktyr Korimir

My take on the ninja as a monk Feb 28, 2011, 11:46 PM by default — InfernosReaper, default, Steelfiredragon and 8 others	17 posts	Last post: Mar 22, 2011, 11:39 PM by gamer-printer

Shadow Clone grant 1d4 clones, or 1d4+X? Mar 7, 2011, 01:39 PM by Ravingdork — InfernosReaper and Ravingdork	3 posts	Last post: Mar 19, 2011, 05:57 AM by InfernosReaper

Where's my kusarigama?! Mar 1, 2011, 05:12 AM by Buba HoTep — InfernosReaper, Alexander Sommer, Buba HoTep and 7 others	16 posts	Last post: Mar 15, 2011, 10:31 AM by Anburaid

Katana and Wakisashi should be Samurai weapons only Jan 24, 2011, 06:15 PM by DragonBelow — Pendagast, gamer-printer, Shadrayl of the Mountain and 58 others	268 posts	Last post: Mar 10, 2011, 02:54 PM by Mourningcloud

To Rogue or not to Rogue Jan 25, 2011, 04:07 AM by ciretose — ciretose, Shadow_of_death, InfernosReaper and 7 others	15 posts	Last post: Mar 1, 2011, 05:34 AM by InfernosReaper

How do we fix this? Jan 29, 2011, 09:36 AM by Kenjishinomouri — Midnightoker, Dire Mongoose, Lyrax and 33 others	203 posts	Last post: Feb 28, 2011, 02:36 AM by Ardenup

where can i find a copy of the ultimate playtest to check out Feb 25, 2011, 11:10 AM by zmanerism —	1 post	Last post: Feb 25, 2011, 11:10 AM by zmanerism

Can we change the name of the Ninja? and a few other things... Jan 25, 2011, 03:32 PM by Rzach — Kaiyanwang, Draco Bahamut, Rzach and 46 others	104 posts	Last post: Feb 25, 2011, 06:08 AM by Tony Ranger

Hidden Master (How detectable are you?) / Invisible Feinting Feb 19, 2011, 12:37 PM by Tarsus — Tarsus, Kaiyanwang, InfernosReaper and 2 others	6 posts	Last post: Feb 24, 2011, 08:12 PM by Kaiyanwang

Ninja and unarmed combat Feb 7, 2011, 11:36 PM by Helaman — Shadow_of_death, InfernosReaper, hida_jiremi and 5 others	19 posts	Last post: Feb 24, 2011, 07:56 PM by InfernosReaper

My suggestions on how to change the ninja, both for balancing and flavour Feb 18, 2011, 06:19 AM by Ash the Rogue Tengu — InfernosReaper, Anburaid, Mojorat and 3 others	14 posts	Last post: Feb 24, 2011, 07:48 PM by InfernosReaper

Ultimate Combat PCGen Dataset Feb 16, 2011, 02:01 PM by Austin Morgan — DeathQuaker, John Lynch 106, Nathan Goforth and 2 others	5 posts	Last post: Feb 21, 2011, 04:55 AM by DeathQuaker

Kusarigama? Feb 9, 2011, 11:07 AM by Green-Mage — InfernosReaper, sasuke sarutobi, Green-Mage and 6 others	16 posts	Last post: Feb 15, 2011, 07:52 PM by InfernosReaper

Ninja / Rogue infiltration... Feb 15, 2011, 01:18 PM by James Bolton — James Bolton	1 post	Last post: Feb 15, 2011, 01:18 PM by James Bolton

First thought on Ninja Jan 24, 2011, 05:17 PM by mdt — Kaiyanwang, Zark, seekerofshadowlight and 55 others	219 posts	Last post: Feb 14, 2011, 03:43 AM by Cartigan

Shadow Split Jan 26, 2011, 12:43 PM by kaisc006 — sasuke sarutobi, Midnightoker, kaisc006 and 4 others	16 posts	Last post: Feb 12, 2011, 10:07 AM by sasuke sarutobi

Good Assassins? Feb 10, 2011, 04:47 PM by SirCall — SirCall and Helaman	3 posts	Last post: Feb 11, 2011, 04:58 AM by Helaman

Single ninja just dropped my party of 14th level adventurers (Moved to Playtest Results - Round 1) Feb 10, 2011, 02:38 AM by Kalrik —	155 posts	Last post: Mar 27, 2011, 06:17 PM by Nerfherder

New to the playtest scene Feb 9, 2011, 08:58 AM by godsDMit — Michael Fox 007 and godsDMit	2 posts	Last post: Feb 9, 2011, 12:53 PM by Michael Fox 007

The REAL reason for a charisma based Ninja Feb 6, 2011, 02:16 PM by John John — John John, Steelfiredragon, w0nkothesane and 6 others	12 posts	Last post: Feb 9, 2011, 11:44 AM by w0nkothesane

No Ninja Tricks Jan 26, 2011, 03:43 PM by deinol — InfernosReaper, Ross Byers and deinol	7 posts	Last post: Feb 7, 2011, 02:16 PM by InfernosReaper

Rogue vs. Ninja DPR race! Feb 4, 2011, 03:56 AM by Ardenup — kaisc006, Ardenup, Ross Byers and 2 others	9 posts	Last post: Feb 7, 2011, 11:27 AM by Ross Byers

Ki attack Ninja and Monk Jan 26, 2011, 11:00 AM by kaisc006 — kaisc006, James Bolton, Midnightoker and 5 others	21 posts	Last post: Feb 7, 2011, 12:11 AM by Kaiyanwang

My Two Cents on the Ninja... Feb 5, 2011, 05:27 PM by Azzkigar — Elghinn Lightbringer, Azzkigar, kaisc006 and 4 others	12 posts	Last post: Feb 6, 2011, 08:06 PM by kaisc006

Shouldn't the Ninja's Ki Pool be Wisdom-Based? Jan 24, 2011, 11:36 PM by Mikael Sebag — Mafoon, Kaiyanwang, Madak and 7 others	13 posts	Last post: Feb 6, 2011, 08:28 AM by Madak

new ninja trick idea and my idea on the darkvision trick Feb 5, 2011, 09:25 AM by sasuke sarutobi — sasuke sarutobi and InfernosReaper	4 posts	Last post: Feb 6, 2011, 04:53 AM by sasuke sarutobi

Bombs... Jan 27, 2011, 12:37 PM by Disturbed1 — Kaiyanwang, InfernosReaper, Rinny and 7 others	14 posts	Last post: Feb 5, 2011, 08:37 PM by InfernosReaper

Ninja Equipment Jan 25, 2011, 11:48 AM by Mikado67 — Kierato, Foghammer, Anburaid and 13 others	19 posts	Last post: Feb 4, 2011, 03:08 PM by Anburaid

Does the iconic Ninja point and laugh at Merisiel? Jan 25, 2011, 07:19 PM by Joana — Shadow_of_death, Kaiyanwang, Midnightoker and 28 others	74 posts	Last post: Feb 4, 2011, 01:25 PM by Shadow_of_death

Not actually a post about the Ninja Jan 27, 2011, 02:53 AM by Matthew Trent — Midnightoker, seekerofshadowlight, Kryzbyn and 4 others	9 posts	Last post: Feb 3, 2011, 04:39 PM by Kryzbyn

Your Proposed Changes - The Ninja Jan 26, 2011, 10:50 AM by Ellington — Kaiyanwang, kaisc006, Ziiiiiiiiit and 19 others	42 posts	Last post: Feb 3, 2011, 11:32 AM by Midnightoker

A need for Apples to Apples comparisons Jan 26, 2011, 08:07 AM by Helaman — Kaiyanwang, Helaman, Anburaid and 2 others	10 posts	Last post: Feb 3, 2011, 10:02 AM by Anburaid

Armored Ninja Jan 26, 2011, 08:54 AM by kaisc006 — kaisc006, Anburaid, Pendagast and 10 others	22 posts	Last post: Feb 3, 2011, 09:00 AM by Anburaid

First Thoughts: Ninja's, Ḥashāshīns, and Rogues OH MY Jan 31, 2011, 11:26 AM by Sleep-Walker — InfernosReaper, KilroySummoner, Kaiyanwang and Sleep-Walker	4 posts	Last post: Feb 3, 2011, 01:04 AM by InfernosReaper

Ninja addition suggestion Jan 31, 2011, 04:34 PM by xJoe3x — xJoe3x, InfernosReaper and Midnightoker	4 posts	Last post: Feb 3, 2011, 12:50 AM by InfernosReaper

One level monk dip and ki to Wisdom Jan 31, 2011, 09:12 PM by 'Rixx — magnuskn, stringburka, Midnightoker and 12 others	68 posts	Last post: Feb 2, 2011, 06:01 PM by Heretek

Rogues should be able to take Ninja Tricks Jan 24, 2011, 06:20 PM by Waffle_Neutral — seekerofshadowlight, Cartigan, Shadow_of_death and 23 others	65 posts	Last post: Feb 2, 2011, 05:30 PM by Grey Lensman

Blindsight Jan 26, 2011, 01:17 PM by kaisc006 — kaisc006, sasuke sarutobi, Starglim and 5 others	15 posts	Last post: Feb 2, 2011, 02:31 PM by sasuke sarutobi

A note to all those put out by Ninjas, Samurais, and Monks... Feb 2, 2011, 01:15 AM by Kryptik — Kaiyanwang, KaeYoss, Kryptik and 8 others	24 posts	Last post: Feb 2, 2011, 11:57 AM by Kryptik

Assassinate is optional? Jan 25, 2011, 10:09 AM by Torger Miltenberger — Torger Miltenberger, Anburaid, Kaiyanwang and 15 others	31 posts	Last post: Feb 2, 2011, 11:16 AM by Templetroll

Bleeding Attack & Deadly Range & other issues experienced Jan 31, 2011, 07:49 AM by Hayato Ken — Hayato Ken, kaisc006, Heretek and Kaiyanwang	10 posts	Last post: Feb 1, 2011, 09:48 PM by kaisc006

Pressure point is really poorly designed Jan 31, 2011, 01:05 AM by super_radish — Anburaid, Heretek, super_radish and 6 others	14 posts	Last post: Feb 1, 2011, 06:13 AM by Anburaid

Wall Climber Ninja Trick Jan 31, 2011, 09:56 AM by F. Castor — Heretek and F. Castor	2 posts	Last post: Jan 31, 2011, 10:02 AM by Heretek

Neccesary Fixes for the Ninja (and Other Thoughts) Jan 30, 2011, 08:55 AM by Heretek — Heretek, magnuskn, havoc xiii and 7 others	21 posts	Last post: Jan 31, 2011, 06:54 AM by magnuskn

Swift Action Abilities Jan 25, 2011, 01:28 PM by Joseph Caubo — Heretek, magnuskn, Joseph Caubo and 4 others	16 posts	Last post: Jan 31, 2011, 12:53 AM by magnuskn

Alternate Class Tricks vs. Talents Jan 30, 2011, 01:37 PM by Midnightoker — Midnightoker, seekerofshadowlight, Sean FitzSimon and Freesword	6 posts	Last post: Jan 30, 2011, 08:22 PM by Midnightoker

When can you add an extra attack with a Ki point? Jan 30, 2011, 06:50 PM by YuenglingDragon — Gilfalas and YuenglingDragon	2 posts	Last post: Jan 30, 2011, 07:39 PM by Gilfalas

This is my version of the ninja Jan 30, 2011, 04:13 PM by jonnythm — cblades, Shadow_of_death and jonnythm	3 posts	Last post: Jan 30, 2011, 04:30 PM by cblades

Balance Issues Jan 25, 2011, 06:05 PM by Thepen — Shadow_of_death, Abraham spalding, Zark and 20 others	60 posts	Last post: Jan 30, 2011, 04:31 AM by Zark

Questions on ki charge / sneak attack Jan 28, 2011, 01:52 PM by scotchrocket — Shadow_of_death and scotchrocket	2 posts	Last post: Jan 28, 2011, 04:26 PM by Shadow_of_death

Ninja and rogue alternate Class features Jan 28, 2011, 02:36 AM by Alex Mack — seekerofshadowlight, Kaiyanwang and Alex Mack	4 posts	Last post: Jan 28, 2011, 05:09 AM by seekerofshadowlight

Ninja specific proposed prestige classes Jan 27, 2011, 03:58 PM by Drack530 — rkraus2, Azure_Zero and Drack530	4 posts	Last post: Jan 27, 2011, 08:57 PM by rkraus2

Quick question to you guys who hate Ninjas / Samurai Jan 27, 2011, 03:01 AM by Matthew Trent — CourtFool, jakebacon, seekerofshadowlight and 7 others	15 posts	Last post: Jan 27, 2011, 03:23 PM by Jason Bulmahn

What's in a name? Jan 26, 2011, 09:02 PM by dpnorton82 — Shadow_of_death, dpnorton82 and Kenjishinomouri	7 posts	Last post: Jan 26, 2011, 11:17 PM by Kenjishinomouri

Contortionist Jan 25, 2011, 11:49 AM by Mikado67 — Shadow_of_death, Name Violation and Mikado67	3 posts	Last post: Jan 26, 2011, 08:51 PM by Shadow_of_death

Hidden weapons and Quick Draw Jan 26, 2011, 04:42 PM by Peter Blake — Mikado67 and Peter Blake	2 posts	Last post: Jan 26, 2011, 05:37 PM by Mikado67

Alternate Concepts using Ninja Mechanics Jan 26, 2011, 05:01 PM by mdt — darth_borehd and mdt	2 posts	Last post: Jan 26, 2011, 05:04 PM by darth_borehd

Hidden Master just a bit too strong for the cost Jan 26, 2011, 12:58 PM by Monkeygod — snobi and Monkeygod	2 posts	Last post: Jan 26, 2011, 01:28 PM by snobi