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Gah! You two need to stop posting right next to one another.
I dunno. I might have liked the old version better. Course, now I'm trying to play Hocus Focus by memory to figure out exactly what changed other than 'Roleplaying Game' turning red.
There was a border on the old cover and the book "type" designation was placed on a tan crest at the bottom that isn't there any more; that and as mentioned roleplaying game is now in red. I lopve that the artwork is more in your face than in the previous version. The beastiary now looks like they are charging right at you instead of someone in front of you. I'm assuming these are the final cut versions for the book artwork and hopefully means they are close to sending to printer if not already there.
Very good, as usual. Looking forward to owning these books.
The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...
The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...
I like the look of this troll better. I guess it trumps the "Classic Monsters Revisisted" one then?
Jason Nelson(RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)
James Jacobs wrote:
Xuttah wrote:
What kind of giant is that? It looks upset!
Very good, as usual. Looking forward to owning these books.
The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...
What?
No more skinny green pickle-nose trolls?
Poor Poul Anderson... some of us still love you!!!
The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...
I like the look of this troll better. I guess it trumps the "Classic Monsters Revisisted" one then?
Correct. We'll be likely setting up the troll as the more bestial giant than, say, ogres or ettins or actual giants. Trolls in Golarion are probably the least likely to use manufactured weapons, for example, since doing so is kind of a nerf for something with claws and a bite and a rend attack anyway...
Correct. We'll be likely setting up the troll as the more bestial giant than, say, ogres or ettins or actual giants. Trolls in Golarion are probably the least likely to use manufactured weapons, for example, since doing so is kind of a nerf for something with claws and a bite and a rend attack anyway...
Is the ecology information about trolls in Classic Monsters null and void too? What about the other creatures?
Prime Evil(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
Any chance of some desktop wallpaper based on these images (hint, hint)?
The day before we send the Core Rulebook to print is probably not the best time to ask the art staff to make free wallpapers, but I'll see what I can do for the near future. :)
By the way, I think there's a typo on page 73. You might want to fix that before you send it off.
Prime Evil(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
Erik Mona wrote:
The day before we send the Core Rulebook to print is probably not the best time to ask the art staff to make free wallpapers, but I'll see what I can do for the near future. :)
Send the Core Rulebook to print (yay!) and then make free wallpapers to celebrate...
The depiction of the troll on the cover of the Bestiary shows why I love the approach adopted by Paizo for the Pathfinder RPG - the troll has definitely had a makeover, but it is still recognizably a troll in the classic D&D tradition. The balance between innovation and tradition seems to be about right.
Correct. We'll be likely setting up the troll as the more bestial giant than, say, ogres or ettins or actual giants. Trolls in Golarion are probably the least likely to use manufactured weapons, for example, since doing so is kind of a nerf for something with claws and a bite and a rend attack anyway...
Is the ecology information about trolls in Classic Monsters null and void too? What about the other creatures?
The ecology information is not necessarily void, no. And the other Classic Monsters in the book are mostly unchanged.
Very good, as usual. Looking forward to owning these books.
The cover of the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary features a marilith demon, a troll, and a bunch of goblins. The troll, as you can see, gets a pretty big revamp to its look in Pathfinder...
What?
No more skinny green pickle-nose trolls?
Poor Poul Anderson... some of us still love you!!!
EDIT: And BTW, that is one Abyss of an underbite!
Love the cover of the Pathfinder RPG not so much the troll, something about the giant hamburglar fingers bugs me. Plus trolls always have big black evil souleating depthless eyes.
Very nice! Now all you have to do is convince Barnes and Noble and other bookstores to sell the book facing 'out' so people will get drawn in by the artwork.
And it is off to the printers? WOOT! Very anxiously waiting!
Meh, the troll is neat, but the goblins are what continues to impress me. I like the dark, little "Cat's Eye" gremlin look and I picture them as having personalities like the goblin henchmen in "Overlord". As hordes of them swarm out and loot, pillage, breaking random objects because they can and hunting family fidos for sport all the while.
Very nice! Now all you have to do is convince Barnes and Noble and other bookstores to sell the book facing 'out' so people will get drawn in by the artwork.
And it is off to the printers? WOOT! Very anxiously waiting!
Not quite yet.
Mairkurion {tm}(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)
blope wrote:
Very nice! Now all you have to do is convince Barnes and Noble and other bookstores to sell the book facing 'out' so people will get drawn in by the artwork.
And it is off to the printers? WOOT! Very anxiously waiting!
There may be hope. It seems to me like most B&N sell hard back RPG books face out, and only the paperbacks spine out.
That troll is about a thousand times cooler than the long-nose 'classic' D&D troll. (The 'classic' troll, to my eyes, looks more like a green hag.)
Although, I gotta say, that underbite is gonna make bite attacks problematic for that particular troll. "I smack you with my lower jaw! My upper jaw, well, it can't reach nuffin..."
That troll is about a thousand times cooler than the long-nose 'classic' D&D troll. (The 'classic' troll, to my eyes, looks more like a green hag.)
Although, I gotta say, that underbite is gonna make bite attacks problematic for that particular troll. "I smack you with my lower jaw! My upper jaw, well, it can't reach nuffin..."
At least it can attack with half its jaw. The old troll had to bite its nose off first before it could bite anything else.
Although, I gotta say, that underbite is gonna make bite attacks problematic for that particular troll. "I smack you with my lower jaw! My upper jaw, well, it can't reach nuffin..."
The troll jaw and the jaw of the Festerog (sp?) from Hungry are the Dead look very similar. I wonder if there is some sort of lower mandible conspiracy in Pathfinder? ;)
I wonder if there is some sort of lower mandible conspiracy in Pathfinder? ;)
There's no such thing as an upper mandible. The jawbone is just a mandible - the part I suspect you're thinking of as the "upper mandible" is called the maxilla.
Those terms have entirely different meanings with arthropods, but what're you gonna do?