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Errata and Typos (Bard, Monk, and Rogue) (Sticky) Oct 14, 2008, 11:15 AM by Jason Bulmahn — Zark, Mosaic, Iziak and 25 others	42 posts	Last post: Feb 19, 2009, 11:13 AM by Pathfinder X

Welcome to the Song, Fist, and Stealth Playtest (Sticky) Oct 14, 2008, 11:15 AM by Jason Bulmahn — seekerofshadowlight, tasslehoff220, Majuba and 10 others	16 posts	Last post: Oct 29, 2008, 01:24 PM by tasslehoff220

[Bard] Five Relevant Bard Issues Oct 14, 2008, 03:50 PM by Mattastrophic — cliff, Zurai, Abraham spalding and 40 others	116 posts	Last post: Feb 23, 2009, 12:07 PM by Zark

SNEAK ATTACK Jan 9, 2009, 05:40 AM by sempai33 — Pendagast, Bagpuss, Abraham spalding and 18 others	80 posts	Last post: Feb 22, 2009, 06:43 AM by Pendagast

Problem: Monk abilities kind of blow after level 12 Oct 14, 2008, 12:00 PM by hogarth — Arakhor, Kirth Gersen, Hadesblade and 9 others	22 posts	Last post: Feb 21, 2009, 07:50 AM by chrmagic

What is the monk? Oct 14, 2008, 06:29 PM by Shisumo — Kirth Gersen, Shisumo, toyrobots and 10 others	21 posts	Last post: Feb 21, 2009, 07:35 AM by chrmagic

[Bard] Maintaining multiple performances... already allowed? Feb 2, 2009, 08:31 PM by Majuba — Zurai, Purple Dragon Knight, Abraham spalding and 3 others	15 posts	Last post: Feb 20, 2009, 02:15 PM by Tom Cattery

Improving the Bard Jan 27, 2009, 06:17 AM by Matthew Vickrey — Purple Dragon Knight, cliff, Pendagast and 14 others	51 posts	Last post: Feb 17, 2009, 04:31 PM by cliff

Monk - How to make it better Feb 11, 2009, 10:16 PM by Neil Phillips — Abraham spalding, Daniel Simonson, Neil Phillips and 9 others	38 posts	Last post: Feb 17, 2009, 12:00 PM by bden

Specific Questions about Bard's 'Inspire Courage' Feb 12, 2009, 10:32 PM by Kiri — Abraham spalding, cliff, Russ Taylor and 3 others	8 posts	Last post: Feb 15, 2009, 12:04 AM by Russ Taylor

Monks, and the Saint template Feb 6, 2009, 05:44 AM by rowdy55 — Turin the Mad, rowdy55, The Wraith and 2 others	7 posts	Last post: Feb 13, 2009, 03:35 AM by The Wraith

Monk Multicalssing Question Feb 11, 2009, 11:58 AM by Neil Phillips — Shisumo and Neil Phillips	2 posts	Last post: Feb 11, 2009, 12:04 PM by Shisumo

"Backstab", please come home to your Rogue Oct 26, 2008, 02:24 PM by Sneaksy Dragon — Sneaksy Dragon, hogarth, Bagpuss and 23 others	56 posts	Last post: Feb 10, 2009, 11:55 PM by Sneaksy Dragon

Rogue - Minor Magic - At will? Oct 15, 2008, 12:05 AM by BlaineTog — BlaineTog, Abraham spalding, Virgil and 26 others	53 posts	Last post: Feb 8, 2009, 08:13 AM by SlimGauge

Bard - Distraction and Countersong Feb 5, 2009, 08:54 AM by Ross Byers — Ross Byers and Purple Dragon Knight	3 posts	Last post: Feb 6, 2009, 07:28 PM by Ross Byers

Sneak attacking undead Feb 5, 2009, 02:40 AM by voron — voron	1 post	Last post: Feb 5, 2009, 02:42 AM by voron

Monks Unarmed Strike and Natural Claw Attack Jan 11, 2009, 09:20 AM by DeathCon 00 — DeathCon 00, Michael Fletcher 36, Salama and Remco Sommeling	5 posts	Last post: Feb 4, 2009, 07:27 AM by DeathCon 00

Specialized monk weapons Dec 17, 2008, 07:32 AM by Pendagast — Mortagon, Eric Stipe, Pendagast and 2 others	8 posts	Last post: Feb 3, 2009, 11:15 PM by Mortagon

Sneak Attack on Spell like ability? Jan 29, 2009, 03:34 PM by kitenerd — Bard-Sader, Abraham spalding, Lathiira and kitenerd	5 posts	Last post: Jan 30, 2009, 01:58 PM by Bard-Sader

Bard Talents Dec 15, 2008, 06:52 PM by levelupper — Pendagast, Abraham spalding, levelupper and 7 others	29 posts	Last post: Jan 30, 2009, 10:34 AM by bden

Rogue Talent Rundown Oct 14, 2008, 02:26 PM by Dennis Baker — The Wraith, Zark, DeathCon 00 and 7 others	11 posts	Last post: Jan 28, 2009, 10:48 AM by Zark

My Monk Houserules (or beating a dead horse). Jan 22, 2009, 01:20 PM by Skester — Max Money, Turin the Mad, Eric Stipe and Skester	4 posts	Last post: Jan 28, 2009, 10:05 AM by Max Money

Bards need 8 skill points per level Dec 20, 2008, 11:45 PM by Purple Dragon Knight — Purple Dragon Knight, cliff and Kirth Gersen	8 posts	Last post: Jan 24, 2009, 10:15 PM by Purple Dragon Knight

[Rogue] Scout as a core class replacement Jan 21, 2009, 02:59 AM by veebles — seekerofshadowlight, veebles, Pendagast and ultimate_illusionist	6 posts	Last post: Jan 23, 2009, 06:47 PM by seekerofshadowlight

[Monk] Unarmed Strikes and Gauntlets Jan 21, 2009, 11:48 AM by Gnome-Eater — Gnome-Eater, Abraham spalding, Ubermench and 4 others	13 posts	Last post: Jan 23, 2009, 10:56 AM by Daniel Simonson

[BARD] bardic colleges Dec 30, 2008, 08:06 PM by Laurefindel — cliff, Laurefindel, Pendagast and 4 others	27 posts	Last post: Jan 22, 2009, 07:16 PM by Pauel

Rogue- Of shortbows and Daggers and saps Dec 17, 2008, 07:09 AM by Pendagast — Pendagast, Abraham spalding, Majuba and 2 others	13 posts	Last post: Jan 22, 2009, 09:15 AM by Abraham spalding

Monk Unarmed Strike and Weapon Bonus Jan 18, 2009, 11:43 AM by Sven Gerkens — DeathCon 00, The Wraith, Abraham spalding and Sven Gerkens	5 posts	Last post: Jan 20, 2009, 03:45 AM by The Wraith

Rogue talent: Slow Reactions question Jan 18, 2009, 04:02 PM by maledicus — veebles, maledicus, snobi and Fatespinner	6 posts	Last post: Jan 20, 2009, 03:19 AM by veebles

Bardic "Performance Powers" Jan 15, 2009, 08:23 AM by DeathCon 00 — cliff and DeathCon 00	2 posts	Last post: Jan 15, 2009, 03:55 PM by cliff

Flurry of Blows and Two-Weapon Fighting Jan 15, 2009, 08:15 AM by DeathCon 00 — hogarth, fray, Repairman Jack and DeathCon 00	4 posts	Last post: Jan 15, 2009, 01:57 PM by hogarth

Best Bard Spell? Jan 15, 2009, 08:19 AM by David Fryer — psionichamster, HaraldKlak and David Fryer	3 posts	Last post: Jan 15, 2009, 11:11 AM by psionichamster

Why Bards do not get the spell Heal? Jan 12, 2009, 07:15 AM by Lecen of Mitran — Abraham spalding, Lecen of Mitran, HaraldKlak and 6 others	15 posts	Last post: Jan 15, 2009, 09:39 AM by HaraldKlak

Rogue - Trap Finding (Or How to Spend 30 minutes on a 40 feet corridor) Oct 16, 2008, 09:48 PM by Diego Bastet — A Reliable Source, Diego Bastet, The Black Bard and 11 others	16 posts	Last post: Jan 13, 2009, 03:30 PM by The Black Bard

the monk fall fall fall Jan 12, 2009, 11:18 AM by dunrosh — veebles and dunrosh	2 posts	Last post: Jan 13, 2009, 09:11 AM by veebles

Monks need full BAB. Oct 14, 2008, 02:18 PM by Psychic_Robot — Kirth Gersen, Bagpuss, seekerofshadowlight and 74 others	162 posts	Last post: Jan 10, 2009, 05:42 PM by Bill Dunn

Quivering Palm Jan 9, 2009, 11:25 AM by Revan — Remco Sommeling, Pendagast and Revan	3 posts	Last post: Jan 9, 2009, 07:14 PM by Remco Sommeling

Bards - Medium Armor Proficiency or not? And the shields..? Jan 5, 2009, 11:01 AM by HaraldKlak — CharlieRock and HaraldKlak	4 posts	Last post: Jan 7, 2009, 07:02 PM by CharlieRock

Retiring Alignment Requirements? Oct 19, 2008, 01:22 AM by Sueki Suezo — Bagpuss, Tectorman, Kirth Gersen and 22 others	205 posts	Last post: Jan 6, 2009, 10:50 AM by RJM

Bards cast like sorcerers, not wizards - why? Jan 4, 2009, 03:53 PM by Mosaic — Abraham spalding, Azoun The Sage, Xaaon of Xen'Drik and 4 others	7 posts	Last post: Jan 5, 2009, 10:37 PM by Abraham spalding

Thoughts on how to fix the bard Oct 21, 2008, 09:42 AM by Abraham spalding — cliff, Abraham spalding, Zark and 24 others	142 posts	Last post: Dec 31, 2008, 05:12 AM by cliff

[Monk Playtest] Dec 15, 2008, 03:05 PM by Kirth Gersen — Kirth Gersen, silverhair2008, houstonderek and 13 others	108 posts	Last post: Dec 30, 2008, 10:48 AM by Kirth Gersen

When can we expect an update to Bard, Monk, and Rogue? Oct 28, 2008, 03:58 PM by KaeYoss — KaeYoss, Pathfinder X, DitheringFool and 4 others	10 posts	Last post: Dec 23, 2008, 06:46 PM by Pathfinder X

Monk needs d10 hit dice. and good BAB.. Dec 22, 2008, 02:33 AM by Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper — Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper	2 posts	Last post: Dec 22, 2008, 11:40 AM by Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper

The Bardic Knowledge mechanic for Perform too. Oct 24, 2008, 05:35 PM by Selk — Treantmonklvl20, Purple Dragon Knight and Selk	3 posts	Last post: Dec 21, 2008, 12:38 PM by Treantmonklvl20

Monk Suggestion Dec 13, 2008, 11:48 PM by Crimson Jester — silverhair2008, Treyu, TriOmegaZero and 2 others	5 posts	Last post: Dec 19, 2008, 03:11 PM by silverhair2008

Suggestions for new Bard stuff Dec 15, 2008, 05:59 PM by levelupper — cliff and levelupper	2 posts	Last post: Dec 16, 2008, 03:10 PM by cliff

Any clarification on which forms of Bardic performance require concentration to maintain? Oct 30, 2008, 10:39 AM by JL99 — Abraham spalding, Zurai and JL99	3 posts	Last post: Dec 10, 2008, 11:56 PM by Abraham spalding

Bardic Magic -- Too little too late? Or just right? Oct 22, 2008, 10:45 AM by Abraham spalding — Abraham spalding, BlaineTog, Matthew Morris and 12 others	28 posts	Last post: Dec 9, 2008, 09:37 PM by Zurai

Rogue - Master Strike Dec 6, 2008, 06:03 AM by cassius1213 — cassius1213	1 post	Last post: Dec 6, 2008, 06:06 AM by cassius1213

Bard - Dramatic Flourish Oct 17, 2008, 07:30 PM by Jason Nelson — minkscooter, Jason Nelson, cliff and 5 others	14 posts	Last post: Dec 4, 2008, 05:40 PM by cliff

Monks: Ki Stuff & general commentary (mostly Ki Stuff) Oct 16, 2008, 07:40 PM by Turin the Mad — Turin the Mad, Arnim Thayer, Me'mori and 7 others	22 posts	Last post: Dec 4, 2008, 07:59 AM by Turin the Mad

Monk - Tongue of the Sun and Moon is illfitting Nov 17, 2008, 08:58 AM by Diction — Shanda Sage, Diction, The Wraith and 3 others	8 posts	Last post: Dec 3, 2008, 09:30 AM by The Wraith

[Monk] Use Wisdom mod. instead of Strength mod. for Melee Attack Oct 14, 2008, 01:08 PM by quest-master — Threeshades, hogarth, Wrath and 21 others	47 posts	Last post: Dec 1, 2008, 10:30 PM by Steven T. Helt

Making a Bard More Flexible Nov 24, 2008, 06:44 AM by James Martin — cliff, Set and James Martin	3 posts	Last post: Nov 24, 2008, 02:19 PM by cliff

Monks Need Magic Fists Nov 13, 2008, 04:22 PM by Psychic_Robot — kyrt-ryder, Ross Byers, Bagpuss and 17 others	76 posts	Last post: Nov 23, 2008, 05:46 PM by Aleguzzler

Monk - Unarmed Damage Nov 16, 2008, 07:49 PM by Lord Munkar — Majuba and Lord Munkar	2 posts	Last post: Nov 16, 2008, 09:07 PM by Majuba

Monk Weapons Oct 14, 2008, 01:41 PM by DougErvin — Kirth Gersen, Skeral, TreeLynx and 18 others	26 posts	Last post: Nov 16, 2008, 12:42 AM by Ross Byers

Monks- Manuever Training Oct 28, 2008, 05:23 AM by lastknightleft — lastknightleft, Tarren Dei, -Archangel- and 9 others	45 posts	Last post: Nov 15, 2008, 06:01 PM by SquirrelyOgre

Creating a Diversion to Hide with Bluff Nov 12, 2008, 11:22 PM by John Clark 410 — John Clark 410 and Suzaku	3 posts	Last post: Nov 13, 2008, 11:02 AM by Surfdragon

[Monk] Wholeness of Body Nov 12, 2008, 01:39 AM by -Archangel- — Abraham spalding and -Archangel-	4 posts	Last post: Nov 13, 2008, 05:01 AM by Abraham spalding

Monk - Weapon Proficiencies Oct 15, 2008, 05:01 AM by Tectorman — Dragonborn3, Kirth Gersen, TreeLynx and 16 others	37 posts	Last post: Nov 11, 2008, 11:08 AM by Samuel Weiss

Monk - Slowfall Oct 14, 2008, 10:10 PM by BlaineTog — BlaineTog, Set, Jason Nelson and 15 others	41 posts	Last post: Nov 10, 2008, 02:51 PM by DougyP

Rogue Minor / Major Magic - spellcasting? Nov 8, 2008, 09:38 PM by Arazyr — Arazyr and Kyrinn S. Eis	3 posts	Last post: Nov 10, 2008, 07:06 AM by Arazyr

Rogue: Surprise Attack error ? Nov 8, 2008, 01:20 AM by sempai33 — sempai33, selios, The Wraith and 5 others	12 posts	Last post: Nov 10, 2008, 06:45 AM by The Wraith

Musicians on Bardic Music Nov 7, 2008, 11:36 AM by Mikael Sebag — Selgard and Mikael Sebag	2 posts	Last post: Nov 7, 2008, 12:57 PM by Selgard

Monk--No more Knowledge (religion)? Nov 6, 2008, 09:07 PM by Mactaka — Mactaka	1 post	Last post: Nov 6, 2008, 09:08 PM by Mactaka

Bardic Knowledge with the Pathfinder Chronicler Nov 6, 2008, 05:45 AM by RiTz21 — RiTz21	1 post	Last post: Nov 6, 2008, 05:49 AM by RiTz21

Rogue-Better than a fighter?? Nov 4, 2008, 11:40 AM by Exiled Prince — Kirth Gersen, Abraham spalding and Exiled Prince	3 posts	Last post: Nov 4, 2008, 11:55 AM by Kirth Gersen

Roguish suggestions by yours truly. Oct 14, 2008, 01:09 PM by KaeYoss — KaeYoss, Brutesquad07, Dread and 25 others	46 posts	Last post: Nov 3, 2008, 11:37 AM by Max Money

Rogue - Sneak Attack Oct 23, 2008, 01:35 PM by Eric Tillemans — addy grete, Dennis da Ogre, Bagpuss and 12 others	57 posts	Last post: Nov 3, 2008, 07:55 AM by lastknightleft

Rogue - Rogue Talents Reviewed Oct 14, 2008, 03:12 PM by Archade — Archade, Arakhor, Jeff Wilder and 16 others	47 posts	Last post: Oct 30, 2008, 07:18 PM by Brutesquad07

Monk - Need more Ki abilities Oct 16, 2008, 03:54 PM by Blackscorp — Abraham spalding, Kirth Gersen, Zer0 and 8 others	21 posts	Last post: Oct 30, 2008, 12:14 PM by Abraham spalding

Sneak Attack & 2 Weapon Fighting Oct 26, 2008, 05:10 PM by Quandary — Kirth Gersen, Quandary, Abraham spalding and 9 others	25 posts	Last post: Oct 29, 2008, 09:41 AM by Emperor7

BARD vs. Roleplaying Oct 15, 2008, 06:46 AM by Calden — Abraham spalding, KaeYoss, Velderan and 9 others	24 posts	Last post: Oct 29, 2008, 08:26 AM by Tom Cattery

Bards with Rage Points Oct 27, 2008, 03:05 PM by Ryan. Costello — Kyrinn S. Eis and Ryan. Costello	2 posts	Last post: Oct 27, 2008, 09:16 PM by Kyrinn S. Eis

Rogue Observations from my Pathfinder Playtests So Far Oct 27, 2008, 03:59 PM by KnightErrantJR — KnightErrantJR	1 post	Last post: Oct 27, 2008, 04:00 PM by KnightErrantJR

Tongue of the Sun and Moon too late at 17th level Oct 23, 2008, 11:51 AM by see — see, Abraham spalding, Honorable Rogue and 5 others	11 posts	Last post: Oct 27, 2008, 01:12 PM by see

Bard from top to bottom Oct 21, 2008, 12:40 AM by Abraham spalding — Abraham spalding, NeoSamurai, Set and 6 others	35 posts	Last post: Oct 27, 2008, 01:11 PM by Starbuck_II

The Bard as Both a Musician and Jack Of All Trades Oct 18, 2008, 01:00 AM by Brother Willi — Velderan, Brother Willi, Fendin Foxfast and 4 others	35 posts	Last post: Oct 26, 2008, 10:14 PM by Abraham spalding

Bard - Needs more bardic performance Oct 26, 2008, 04:36 PM by Rynthief — Rynthief	1 post	Last post: Oct 26, 2008, 04:39 PM by Rynthief

Phenomenal (I think) idea for Bardic Performance Oct 22, 2008, 04:21 AM by KaeYoss — KaeYoss, Abraham spalding, Kyrinn S. Eis and 3 others	11 posts	Last post: Oct 25, 2008, 05:03 PM by Kyrinn S. Eis

Rogue talent suggestion-Familiar Oct 14, 2008, 02:40 PM by Velderan — Velderan, Dennis da Ogre, Abraham spalding and 27 others	96 posts	Last post: Oct 24, 2008, 07:29 AM by Matthew Morris

Return the DC of the Fascinate ability to the Perform check Oct 22, 2008, 07:11 AM by JL99 — Kalyth, Majuba, Abraham spalding and 3 others	5 posts	Last post: Oct 24, 2008, 06:29 AM by Kalyth

Perform or Profession or even Craft Oct 22, 2008, 11:45 PM by Montalve — Montalve	1 post	Last post: Oct 23, 2008, 12:17 AM by Montalve

Can Bards get an at will performance please? Oct 17, 2008, 01:06 AM by KaeYoss — Abraham spalding, Brother Willi, KaeYoss and 7 others	13 posts	Last post: Oct 22, 2008, 10:33 PM by Abraham spalding

Bards Need More Uses of Bardic Music Oct 15, 2008, 04:57 AM by Jim Callaghan — Jim Callaghan, Kirth Gersen, Arakhor and 13 others	23 posts	Last post: Oct 22, 2008, 07:54 PM by Jim Callaghan

Lore Master? Oct 17, 2008, 10:31 AM by Bagpuss — Bagpuss, KaeYoss, David Wickham and 2 others	10 posts	Last post: Oct 22, 2008, 07:18 PM by David Wickham

Bards: Wasting 2 skill points / level is a step backward. Oct 17, 2008, 03:10 PM by Psychic_Robot — Jess Door, hogarth, Abraham spalding and 42 others	104 posts	Last post: Oct 22, 2008, 01:45 PM by KaeYoss

Elan vs Nale (is this what, the fifth related thread?) Oct 20, 2008, 01:09 AM by Dogbert — Velderan, Montalve, KaeYoss and 13 others	36 posts	Last post: Oct 22, 2008, 12:27 PM by Montalve

Bard - Some Alternate Bardic Music Oct 18, 2008, 09:17 AM by BlaineTog — WalkerInShadows, orcface999 and BlaineTog	3 posts	Last post: Oct 22, 2008, 08:11 AM by WalkerInShadows

Why do bards get Climb as a class skill? Why not Ride? Oct 19, 2008, 04:06 PM by Mosaic — Mosaic, Abraham spalding, KaeYoss and 9 others	21 posts	Last post: Oct 22, 2008, 07:53 AM by KaeYoss

Monk - Perfect Self Oct 15, 2008, 05:04 AM by Tectorman — Traxium, Tectorman, seekerofshadowlight and 3 others	9 posts	Last post: Oct 21, 2008, 08:34 PM by Traxium

Monks no longer have multiclass restriction? Oct 20, 2008, 12:21 PM by Mark Moreland — KaeYoss, Jason Bulmahn, Me'mori and 3 others	8 posts	Last post: Oct 21, 2008, 11:37 AM by Jason Bulmahn

Monk - Ki pool (magic)... here's a thought Oct 14, 2008, 12:14 PM by Jason Nelson — Jal Dorak, Jason Nelson, Kirth Gersen and 5 others	12 posts	Last post: Oct 21, 2008, 09:48 AM by Jason Nelson

Monks: Enhancing their natural weapons Oct 18, 2008, 06:07 PM by Karui Kage — Karui Kage, Tholas, Abraham spalding and 4 others	17 posts	Last post: Oct 21, 2008, 09:03 AM by Karui Kage

Ki Strikes Oct 19, 2008, 02:01 AM by Sueki Suezo — Me'mori, Honorable Rogue, Iziak and Sueki Suezo	4 posts	Last post: Oct 21, 2008, 05:12 AM by Me'mori

Bring back the Old School bard Oct 14, 2008, 01:11 PM by Fendin Foxfast — Fendin Foxfast, Brother Willi, seekerofshadowlight and 20 others	45 posts	Last post: Oct 21, 2008, 04:18 AM by magdalena thiriet

"Train Harder, More Ki" Oct 14, 2008, 02:43 PM by Tarren Dei — Tarren Dei, Kirth Gersen, Epic Meepo and 11 others	28 posts	Last post: Oct 21, 2008, 03:33 AM by Me'mori

Bardic Music and the Shaken Condition Oct 20, 2008, 09:21 AM by Brodiggan Gale — Brother Willi and Brodiggan Gale	1 post	Last post: Oct 20, 2008, 08:27 PM by Brother Willi

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