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Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

I am prepping for HoHR, and I realized that I didn't have a map for Midnight's Muddle beyond the one printed in the magazine. I figured I would just download the web supplement for Dragon Dragon #336 on the Paizo website--but I couldn't find it.

Did it ever exist? Have all the web supplements for Dragon and Dungeon been taken off the site?

I downloaded all of the web supplements for AOW months ago, but I never got around to doing the same for The Savage Tide.

Am I SOL?

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

David Roulston wrote:

I am prepping for HoHR, and I realized that I didn't have a map for Midnight's Muddle beyond the one printed in the magazine. I figured I would just download the web supplement for Dragon Dragon #336 on the Paizo website--but I couldn't find it.

Did it ever exist? Have all the web supplements for Dragon and Dungeon been taken off the site?

I downloaded all of the web supplements for AOW months ago, but I never got around to doing the same for The Savage Tide.

Am I SOL?

You'll want to check out Dungeon #128, which has a backdrop for the Free City, in addition to having not only a map of Midnight's Muddle, but a pretty large set of encounters set there. (all of the web supplements for Dungeon SHOULD still be online, in any event...)

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Thanks James. It's great the way you guys keep tabs on the boards.

I went back into the mags and found the Muddle in the following issue of Dungeon. I had been looking for it in Dragon, erroneously thinking it was a Wormfood article. The map was among the PDFs I had already downloaded, so I'm all set up.

I had previously downloaded all the online supplements for AOW, but had not yet done so for Savage Tide. This was something I decided to correct.

I had no problem until I got to issue #144. It wasn't among the list available along with #139-143. After some searching I was eventually able to find it, as well as the online supplements to #145-147. (You may want to get #144-147 listed on the same page with the rest.)

However, no supplements for #148-150, I understand. Is there any possibility whatsoever that these will ever be available?

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David Roulston wrote:

Thanks James. It's great the way you guys keep tabs on the boards.

I went back into the mags and found the Muddle in the following issue of Dungeon. I had been looking for it in Dragon, erroneously thinking it was a Wormfood article. The map was among the PDFs I had already downloaded, so I'm all set up.

I had previously downloaded all the online supplements for AOW, but had not yet done so for Savage Tide. This was something I decided to correct.

I had no problem until I got to issue #144. It wasn't among the list available along with #139-143. After some searching I was eventually able to find it, as well as the online supplements to #145-147. (You may want to get #144-147 listed on the same page with the rest.)

However, no supplements for #148-150, I understand. Is there any possibility whatsoever that these will ever be available?

Alas... it's very unlikely that the last three will ever be available, due to the fact that we no longer hold the license to produce Dungeon and related content. We tried to get them all up online in time... but with everything else going on, the art/map supplements just kept getting put on the back burners and forgotten. And now, I'm afraid it's too late to catch up anyway.

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Ah, well....I guess I have to give the scanner a workout when I get to that point. Given that we're just finishing up Blackwall Keep, it'll be many years before I'll need to do that.

Thanks for responding thoguh.


http://melkot.com/locations/cogh/cogh.html (sorry, forgot the syntax for the tag that would make that into an actual clickable link here) shows an amazing map of Greyhawk with locations whose names pop up when you hover your mouse over the various red dots on the map (not to mention a ton of other useful Greyhawk tidbits on the site's other pages), and the map of Midnight's muddle in the magazine seems to correspond to a section of the appropriate city quarter of this map. Not the first time I've been able to find stuff from AoW adventures corresponding to this map either - these guys at Paizo really did their homework. Can't say that I blame them, what with all the hordes of old-school Greyhawk fans out there who'd doubtless pounce on the slightest mistake. Anyhow, you can go through the AoW adventures that take place in the Free City and literally find most of the buildings in the adventures on this map. If not, you can pick a building to represent the adventure location as I did with Eligos' manor, Sodden Hold, the Cold Forge, etc. (I brought up the site on our game session host's computer and pointed out the various buildings to my players whenever they asked about where in the city they were going or coming from or what have you) Actually, we played out a couple of adventures in Greyhawk before we began running AoW (the AOW adventures have only just recently finally caught up the the PC's levels; we're running through the Champion's Belt now.), so I have had occasion to pick out a building for Theldrat's locksmithy from Dungeon's "Mad God's Key" adventure (my players haven't discovered it yet, but the apostolic scrolls will eventually turn out to be the missing pages from the "evil book" that they recovered from the cultists way back then... gosh, even Barge End is here on this map!) and the Couatl's Quill tavern (my own halfling-run creation, and the place where my campaign first began with that particular adventure) across the street from it. But all the buildings in Midnight's Muddle are actually shown there, so you don't have to pick and choose your own - just search the map for a while until you find the Crooked House etc.

I'm sure more than a few DMs have saved copies of the files that make this map-site work, then modified them to include locations from their own campaigns... though it is probably not 100% legal to put them online for all to see without permission from whoever runs the site. I'm no lawyer though, so don't take my word for it.

Anyhow, that's one more place you can find a map of Midnight's Muddle - the fact you can find so much other stuff there too is just a bonus!

Good luck,

Kang


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