No, it leaves a LOT to be covered. Those LGG write-ups were skeletal to say the least and had NOTHING in the way of stats, smart guy.

No, it leaves a LOT to be covered. Those LGG write-ups were skeletal to say the least and had NOTHING in the way of stats, smart guy.

Well, okay...was trying to be more helpful than smart (okay, I was a little smart-ass, but I did spend a couple of minutes typing up that list) by giving you the list in case you weren't familiar with the LGG. Your post wasn't clear what you wanted or what you already had.

Have you checked some of those Greyhawk online resources? There's a bunch of additionally detailed stuff out there, I've found, if you look hard enough....this is assuming that the article you're asking for doesn't appear in this compendium.

I have all the old dragon articles on the Suloise + Greyhawk deities but I would love to have that list updated and statted out for the current edition. You're right when you say there is stuff out there, but you gotta do a lotta leg work just to find it: Iuz was in an issue of Dragon, as was Tharizdun and Rao; Deities and Demi-gods had a bunch of these guys, also statted out; but nowhere may be found a definitive issue of Greyhawk deitiews in detail. One has to settle for the LGG, which only goes so far, but it is more complete than others. I suppose this all goes back to the jealousy Greyhawk fans feel when they see other settings getting the red carpet treatment.

Is there a place where we can view, or at least get a preview of the list of articles?

That's what this forum is for. We will be revealing things gradually. More information should be out this week.

Hey, Mr. Head,

Is there some significant reason why you keep dodging my question?

TBK

He's not dodging your question. This thread will have the previews of the Compendium scattered through it over time. We'll have one by the end of the week.

Oh, oops. I feel silly.

Anyhow, I think that you should put the old Dragon masthead on the cover of the compilation, you know, the one right before Dragon unleashed came about. That was cool, I don't know why Paizo got rid of it.

lol Ok, I got a quickie question: will you be reviewing material on a certain day of the week, or just at random?

Is there a place where we can view, or at least get a preview of the list of articles?

Rick Bligh: There's a Faerie Dragon in the Draconomicon.

Yes, I was aware of that, thank you. Problem with that write-up was that the authors of the Draconomicon treated it like a Psuedo-Dragon and not as a true dragon as was the case in the original article. The Faerie Dragon was stripped of age levels, spell casting levels and reduced to a CR 6 lizard. This was probably due to the unfortunate remark at the beginning of the original article attributing common ancestry with the Psuedo-dragon. The reduction in stature was more than likely due to its diminutive size. An unfortunate bit of prejudice to be sure.

I'm hoping for a more favorable write-up matching the original.

Rick

Well I will pre-order it. Perfect way to suck more $$ from me - redoing old 1e/2e D&D articles/adventures.

Any chance of seeing the original death knight? I remember it was part of an article about saints.

We're getting very, very close to posting a table of contents. We're still trying to fit everything into our pagination, so I don't want to announce something that might actually end up falling out of the book at the last minute.

Good Hits and Bad Misses will be in there, as will the belove Chi-Square Test. Another one someone mentioned upthread is the Toxins of Cerilon, which will appear in the book as well.

A few much-requested articles will not appear in the book, mostly for reasons of space. We didn't have room for Ed Greenwood's brilliant Nine Hells articles, for example, since they would have taken up about a fifth of the page count of this volume, which seemed sub-optimal. I have instead set them aside to serve as the cornerstone of a future volume, which (if WotC approves it and the first one sells well) will focus exclusively on the Planes of D&D.

There are also a lot of "Oriental Adventures" articles that could make their own volume later on, and hence they are not included in this inaugural book.

Likewise, I have compiled folders full of all of the Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms articles ever published by the magazine, and it is my hope that these too may form the basis of their own volumes (whereas this first is aimed at the most general audience possible).

Even without Len Lakofka's Suel Pantheon or Ed Greenwood's Nine Hells articles, I am sure fans of the magazine will find a lot to like in this first volume, and a lot to look forward to in future installments of what we hope will become a long series.

Just because something does not appear in Volume 1 does not mean we have no intention of compiling it in the future.

--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon

excellent. :)

i was hoping to see the devil lords in this book, but when you think about it, the three articles were each fairly long, and with the way stats (and in particular, stats for powerful unique outsiders) have expanded, i can understand why you would want to use the space on something else. :)

if you do get to do an "all-planes" book, that would be cool. you could even use that to accompany the much-requested "print all the demon lords in one book!" :)

That's the best answer I didn't expect. Thanks, Erik.

I was wondering if the article about the Elven Spirit Bow was going to be in the compilation. A friend was telling me about it and showed me something that said it did 1d20 points of damage but had a special effect or something but he didn't know what that was. Just wondering because I play alot of elven archers and that would be a nice bow without any special traits.

It would seem that Erik is ensuring that we'll be getting D&D books the way they were meant to be, albeit in a roundabout way and several years late. But that's no fault of his, I just hope that the Greyhawk volume sees release before that OTHER setting, no disrespect to Ed Greenwood.

I would also like to see a reprint of these articles with any and all updates to 3.5. Easily one of the highlights of Dragon along side the Baba Yaga's Hut adventure by Roger Moore.

I remember that one! At the time I found it mind blowing.

Sgt. Kenku wrote:

I do hope that the cover of the book will be cooler looking. There's a awfully lot of negative space.

Yeah, for my favorite release of the year, it's certainly NOT my favorite cover.

The new potentially-final cover is now up.

- rob

PS Negative space is your friend!

i like the new cover better. :D

as for reprinting Forgotten Realms articles, the odds are good that most would be one written by Ed Greenwood himself, since he did write so many of them back in the day. :)

Vive le FR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WaterdhavianFlapjack

Sorry to say it but i much prefer the old cover. It now looks like a 2nd edition supplement or something but before it looked very clean and proffesional (almost like a diary). The previous one made it almost feel like a personal scrapbook, and it was wicked because of that. Now it's going for that kitch/retro look and i personally do not like it as much now. But i'll still buy it anyway :)

I like the new cover. But why not have the pre-unleashed masthead? That was cool.

First of all, I am SO looking forward to this. I have precious few back issues (all of them 3.5e).

At least some people are happy that the missing chromatics are coming out; that reminds me of publisher Keith Strohm's Children of Bahamut and Spawn of Tiamat article with those six unique dragons. They've been converted at EN World and elsewhere, but I hope Paizo's own conversion will appear in succeeding compendia.

Even without Len Lakofka's Suel Pantheon or Ed Greenwood's Nine Hells articles, I am sure fans of the magazine will find a lot to like in this first volume, and a lot to look forward to in future installments of what we hope will become a long series.

Just because something does not appear in Volume 1 does not mean we have no intention of compiling it in the future.

--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon

Oh Well, perhaps next time. So concider this my vote for BoVD or Greyhawk style compendium to be done next. :o)

Likewise, I have compiled folders full of all of the Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms articles ever published by the magazine, and it is my hope that these too may form the basis of their own volumes (whereas this first is aimed at the most general audience possible).

Please, Erik, if the success of Volume I is as you hope it to be, release the Greyhawk compilation next. I think you understand as much as any other Greyhawk fanatic that this is desired more than anything else.

On a related question, do the Dragon Compendiums include 3e/v3.5 material as well as pre-3e articles?

Sgt. Kenku wrote:

Is there a place where we can view, or at least get a preview of the list of articles?

Rick Bligh: There's a Faerie Dragon in the Draconomicon.

Yes, I was aware of that, thank you. Problem with that write-up was that the authors of the Draconomicon treated it like a Psuedo-Dragon and not as a true dragon as was the case in the original article. The Faerie Dragon was stripped of age levels, spell casting levels and reduced to a CR 6 lizard. This was probably due to the unfortunate remark at the beginning of the original article attributing common ancestry with the Psuedo-dragon. The reduction in stature was more than likely due to its diminutive size. An unfortunate bit of prejudice to be sure.

I'm hoping for a more favorable write-up matching the original.

Rick

I agree completely... so much so that I pitched it to the Dragon staff as a feature. Sadly, I had no luck.

- Ashavan

A few much-requested articles will not appear in the book, mostly for reasons of space. --- snip

Likewise, I have compiled folders full of all of the Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms articles ever published by the magazine, and it is my hope that these too may form the basis of their own volumes (whereas this first is aimed at the most general audience possible).

--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon

Ouch! .... I was looking forward to the old Greyhawk material. I don't have many Dragon mags. Guess I'll have to wait a few more years .....

-Swiftbrook
Just My Thoughts

The old dragons will certainly be noglastic. After reading the Design Diary, I'm even more excited.

Not to be a drag, but is a preview in the future?

The Ecology of... articles are my favorite part of the magazine. Can we get any hints as to which ones or the number of those articles are included in Vol. 1?

Likewise, I have compiled folders full of all of the Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms articles ever published by the magazine, and it is my hope that these too may form the basis of their own volumes (whereas this first is aimed at the most general audience possible).

Any chance we will see any of the Dragonlance articles in a volume of their own? I personally would like to see some of the Fifth Age stuff retooled for 3.5

An updated Jester...My mother told me a day like this would come. *sniff* I just never thought I would see the day. *sniff* *sniff* WAAAHHH....
I'm so happy. I can bring my old Court Serious one out of retirement.

Wyrms of the North...bring it back!!!

didn't some of those wyrms appear in actual FR products? it was a pretty cool article, BTW, and i usually enjoyed them.

Wyrms of the North...bring it back!!!

They're all available on the wizards website updated to 3E. So I don't think they'll show up in any compendium.

i figured they were updated somewhere! :D

A few much-requested articles will not appear in the book, mostly for reasons of space. We didn't have room for Ed Greenwood's brilliant Nine Hells articles, for example, since they would have taken up about a fifth of the page count of this volume, which seemed sub-optimal. I have instead set them aside to serve as the cornerstone of a future volume, which (if WotC approves it and the first one sells well) will focus exclusively on the Planes of D&D.

--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon

Oooooh planar stuff, that's duuuuuuuuurty!! I'm giddy as a schoolgirl!!

So Erik, if the book's coming out on Oct. 31, and let's say it sells very well, how soon would we see volume two? Next Spring? Summer? A year?

So, how are things looking for an Oct 31st release? No delays yet, I hope? I am quivering with anticipation (and that's a very frightening image, believe you me)

I'd like to purchase this book (and future volumes), but I have just gone through the process of filling in the online form and the price had a $20 (£11) uplift for postage which is a large hike on a $40 (£23) product.

This is probably because I live in England and is, therefore, completely understandable. Before I place an order then, can you say please whether Paizo will be selling the book through UK outlets such as Amazon UK or Place for Games?
(The latter is the excellent outlet for UK subscribers to the main magazines).

Jason

...can you say please whether Paizo will be selling the book through UK outlets...

Any gaming specialty shop should be able to ordering the Dragon Compendium from their distributor. (We've had trouble getting Amazon to acknowledge us, so far.)

-Vic.
.

cool, only one more week to wait - and i get paid on the 31st. :)

Ah, so, let's see here:

Volume X: Oriental Adventures
Volume X: Psionics
Volume X: The Planes

So far, I am liking what I see ahead for the future of Dragon Compendium! :)

Ah, so, let's see here:

Volume X: Oriental Adventures
Volume X: Psionics
Volume X: The Planes

Not until we get our Volume II: Greyhawk! :P

yep, i think those four would sell rather well! :)

Personally I'm hoping at least one or two of the old SJ articles gets updated and put in here. SpellJammer is my all time favorite setting. The first and last time off line I have ever been able to play a lupin ranger.

there will be a Spelljammer races article in Dragon #339. :)