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Best Gish Class?
Andoran Heathansson,

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I think the duskblade myself.

Andoran houstonderek,

Portraits-Almir Argith Viare 2 avatar

Ftr 7/Mu 11/ Elf from 1e. :)

Taldor Callous Jack (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Visiting Viktor 3 avatar

I've never played a Duskblade but I thought the Hexblade was a lot of fun.

Cheliax David Fryer,

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Multiclass Swashbuckler/Sorcerer, or maybe the Battle Sorcerer from UnA with the Battle Caster feat and mithral full plate.

Andoran Heathansson,

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Callous Jack wrote:
I've never played a Duskblade but I thought the Hexblade was a lot of fun.

Is it pretty elegant?

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

What's the crunch to fluff ratio?

Andoran Heathansson,

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I hate that word fluff. Please don't use it in my thread.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Says the elegant gish....did you post a preferred term?

hazel monday (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

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Gishes are OK. I prefer frumbaggy guzzworglers though.
I find them to be more snugglykins puffybaggers than your average run of the mill piggly gulpers.

Brump.

Andoran Heathansson,

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Says the elegant gish....did you post a preferred term?

this is fluff.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

It comes in strawberry too!!!!!! Hold on to your crust, Nilla Waffers!

Andoran Heathansson,

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You are soooooo full of fail.

Taldor Callous Jack (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Visiting Viktor 3 avatar

Heathansson wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
I've never played a Duskblade but I thought the Hexblade was a lot of fun.

Is it pretty elegant?

I was thinking... sumptuous.

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

Sword'n'board type sumptness?

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Failure never tasted so flnffy...

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

Flnffy. that'll work. It's a good woody word.

Taldor Callous Jack (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Visiting Viktor 3 avatar

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Sword'n'board type sumptness?

No.
That's a big, tall glass of fail juice.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Flnffy. that'll work. It's a good woody word.

[Through flnffy mouthfuls of waffers]
You just like it because it's Norwegian.

Taldor Callous Jack (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Visiting Viktor 3 avatar

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
You just like it because it's Norwegian.

Careful, them's fightn' words for lastknightleft.

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

Farferganugin?

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Callous Jack wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
You just like it because it's Norwegian.

Careful, them's fightn' words for lastknightleft.

Why? He's not a Beatles' fan?

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

His roommate is.

Kirth Gersen (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

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Abjurant Champion, in all its broken glory.
d10 HD, full BAB, full spellcasting, automatic quickened spells, automatic extended spells, improved caster level, improved AC, and a bunch of other abilities besides.

And the prerequisites are easier than the ones for Eldritch Knight.

About the only thing they don't get is full clerical turning and sneak attack progression. Or anchovies.

Taldor lastknightleft (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

A 13 Vraxeris avatar

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Flnffy. that'll work. It's a good woody word.

[Through flnffy mouthfuls of waffers]
You just like it because it's Norwegian.

Danged Bloody Norweges trying to make all our words woody all the time, give me a good tinny word any day of the week.

Heathansson's 412th Alias,

A 16-Siren-Ghost avatar

I'll make a joke about something I just said again!

Taldor Callous Jack (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Visiting Viktor 3 avatar

Heathansson's 412th Alias wrote:
I'll make a joke about something I just said again!

Wahahahahahahah!

Taldor lastknightleft (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Abjurant Champion, in all its broken glory.
d10 HD, full BAB, full spellcasting, automatic quickened spells, automatic extended spells, improved caster level, improved AC, and a bunch of other abilities besides.

And the prerequisites are easier than the ones for Eldritch Knight.

About the only thing they don't get is full clerical turning and sneak attack progression. Or anchovies.


the pathfinder version gets anchovies.

Taldor Callous Jack (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Visiting Viktor 3 avatar

lastknightleft wrote:
the pathfinder version gets anchovies.

And bacon.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

No thanks...I've got a tummy ache now...

Andoran houstonderek,

Portraits-Almir Argith Viare 2 avatar

Kirth Gersen wrote:
Abjurant Champion, in all its broken glory.
d10 HD, full BAB, full spellcasting, automatic quickened spells, automatic extended spells, improved caster level, improved AC, and a bunch of other abilities besides.

And the prerequisites are easier than the ones for Eldritch Knight.

About the only thing they don't get is full clerical turning and sneak attack progression. Or anchovies.


You're still bitter about the "one anchovy per slice" Papa John's fiasco, aren't you? ;)

Andoran houstonderek,

Portraits-Almir Argith Viare 2 avatar

Oh, yeah, I almost forgot.

The best "gish" class is the one who can recite all of the lyrics from the Smashing Pumpkins album of the same name.

Sorry, every time I hear the term "gish", I think of that album or Lilian...

Cheliax Archade (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

43 Imp avatar

I really prefer the duskblade. I know the flavour text says 'elves' but all the doom and gloom spells, it really says 'githyanki'.

I have a watered-down gith race in my homebrew campaign world, and their favoured classes are monk or duskblade ...

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

houstonderek wrote:
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot.

The best "gish" class is the one who can recite all of the lyrics from the Smashing Pumpkins album of the same name.

Sorry, every time I hear the term "gish", I think of that album or Lilian...


Hey HD, I'd already called a soundtrack for this thread...

Taldor lastknightleft (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

A 13 Vraxeris avatar

personally I hate gish classes, the hexblade and spellthiefs were the only ones I liked and that was because they felt more like the paladin and ranger rather than a gish, i.e. their own class with thier own unique abilities, that just got some weaker versions of other class abilities tacked on.

Unless you consider the paladin a Gish, in that case, the paladin is my favorite Gish.

Andoran Heathansson,

Werewolf avatar

Heathansson's 412th Alias wrote:
I'll make a joke about something I just said again!

I'm not going to sit for this sockpuppetry in my thread. I know that's you, The Authority.

Andoran houstonderek,

Portraits-Almir Argith Viare 2 avatar

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot.

The best "gish" class is the one who can recite all of the lyrics from the Smashing Pumpkins album of the same name.

Sorry, every time I hear the term "gish", I think of that album or Lilian...


Hey HD, I'd already called a soundtrack for this thread...

Rubber Soul? Really? :)

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

That's right!!!

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Yep. What did you expect from a Greenman?

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

It's my thread, and I don't even know what that is. So I ain't havin it for the soundtrack. It might be too tinny for all I know.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

Norwegian Wood, by definition, is not tinny.

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

Now let's yammer on about chaotic neutral, since I'm the only one who truly understands it.

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Norwegian Wood, by definition, is not tinny.

Except for that Ironwood where that Iron Witch was.
You need to be up more on your Norse Mythology flnff.

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

This has been demonstrated. [Takes up position of auditor.]
EDIT: Wouldn't that be irony, not tinny?

Taldor lastknightleft (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

A 13 Vraxeris avatar

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Norwegian Wood, by definition, is not tinny.

No but it is by definition aweful

Spanky the Leprechaun,

Jack avatar

Auditor. Audit...audi*t*errrrr...no, too tinny.

Taldor lastknightleft (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

A 13 Vraxeris avatar

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
You need to be up more on your Norse Mythology flnff.

That's like needing to be more up on your horse porn

Curaigh,

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
Abjurant Champion, in all its broken glory.
d10 HD, full BAB, full spellcasting, automatic quickened spells, automatic extended spells, improved caster level, improved AC, and a bunch of other abilities besides.

And the prerequisites are easier than the ones for Eldritch Knight.

About the only thing they don't get is full clerical turning and sneak attack progression. Or anchovies.


There is that CA feat you can take to get a familiar as long as you are a spellcaster.

So you can get an anchovi.*

Spoiler:

*A DM may rule you have to be in an aquatic campaign (or a pizzatic one).

Jam412,

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lastknightleft wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
You need to be up more on your Norse Mythology flnff.

That's like needing to be more up on your horse porn

I truly regret ever stumbling upon this thread..

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

lastknightleft wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Norwegian Wood, by definition, is not tinny.

No but it is by definition aweful

[Whew] For a minute there, I thought you said awful.

Osirion Set,

Anubis avatar

Kirth Gersen wrote:
Abjurant Champion,

Can you get into that from Duskblade? Perhaps Duskblade 4 or 5 with a level of Battle Sorcerer? 'Cause that might be hawt.

Best core 'gish,' straight Cleric or Druid.

For worst core 'gish' I'd say, Bard.

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