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Just take a look at this thread.

Maybe we can just put Yellowdingo on probation until he can learn to use the Spoiler button?

Or how about just an option to Ignore certain posters? Please ... anything.

Heck, make me a Moderator and I'll even edit the Spoiler Tag into the post.

But it really makes the threads tedious and drives me away from the Paizo forums and thus the Paizo website and thus the Paizo Store and Paizo products.

FWIW,

Rez

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32

As long as you're perfectly willing to accept the same measure as you measure others by, sure! Ban 'em all and let the trolls sort 'em out!

Liberty's Edge

James Martin wrote:
As long as you're perfectly willing to accept the same measure as you measure others by, sure! Ban 'em all and let the trolls sort 'em out!

Trolls aren't very good at sorting. Anything they sort usually has a much higher than normal concentration of bloody severed troll fingers...

Liberty's Edge

Actually, I see nothing wrong with his posts. I read them to assist the OP in his/her inquiries and nothing more. If anything, they seem on point. If you are trying to ban this person from posting, I say you are going overboard . . . particularly given the amount of other posters who like to use this messageboard as their personal gaming blog sight.

By the way, "Spoiler" is there to hide information from others that may bear an impact on the outcome of some adventure, some movie, or the like. It's to alert the reader that the hidden information might giveaway something that the reader would rather not want to read. His responses didn't really merit a "Spoiler," unless I'm reading his responses wrong.

Grand Lodge

You have got to be kidding! lol

Ok I vote to ban the OP!

Sczarni

I agree with Saurstalk - YYellowdingo's posts in that thread do have direct bearing on the question, and while they are a little heavy on the facts, or long... but it is directly relevant to the questions, and does not spoil anything, therefore he correctly didn't need to use the spoiler button. it was also on topic so he didn't need to use the ooc commend.

More importantly, there is no rule saying you must use the spoiler button, it is an optional tool.

Scarab Sages

Personally, I find YD's (frightening) attention to detail fascinating. Whenever he gets going, good things happen.

so I vote we ban the idea of banning anything.


Rezdave wrote:

Just take a look at this thread.

Awesome Mystara references. If you're looking for a gaming world in which you've got rules for farming, that's the one.


Rezdave wrote:
But it really makes the threads tedious and drives me away from the Paizo forums and thus the Paizo website and thus the Paizo Store and Paizo products.

Nothing says that every user must read every thread.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2009 Top 8

I actually want to copy that thread into a file somewhere and would hate it if it were spoilered.

... Is anyone going to ban me for making a verb out of 'spoiler'?

Liberty's Edge

Tarren Dei wrote:

I actually want to copy that thread into a file somewhere and would hate it if it were spoilered.

... Is anyone going to ban me for making a verb out of 'spoiler'?

*Sigh* If I must. Ban Tarren Dei! Ban Tarren Dei!

jk


Ban Tarren NOW!

Down with Tarren!


Throw that bald man in with the Tibetans, boys!

And you with the thick glasses, don't worry, turning in your mother and father is a service to the Republic. All hail PAIZO!

Liberty's Edge

I think the OP misunderstands the purpose of the spoiler button.

If you find someone’s posts long and tedious, you are free not to read them.


Ban roll-on, FOR ALL OF YOU!

::Tosses deodorant to the masses from his imperial balcony.::

Am I not a generous master?


<Gets out his crayons and makes a ban wishlist>


The Jade wrote:

Ban roll-on, FOR ALL OF YOU!

::Tosses deodorant to the masses from his imperial balcony.::

Am I not a generous master?

grumblegrumblegrumblegrumble

voice 1: How can we use deodorant when the flying dire lemmings have eaten our torsos?

voice 2: Yes! And where were you when the Kobold kept tricking us into reading his explosive runes scrolls?

voice 3: And you throw us travel-size personal hygiene products, even while Kid Rime, the chosen Pokemon of the gated community, wields his nightstick? Do you think that we have a naivety that matches our malodorousness?

several voices: You will not escape being menaced so easily! We have passed volatility and are nearing truculence!

GRUMBLEGRUMBLEGRUMBLEGRUMBLEGRUMBLE


James Martin wrote:
As long as you're perfectly willing to accept the same measure as you measure others by, sure! Ban 'em all and let the trolls sort 'em out!

Should I fear the fate of Phalaris?

Mothman wrote:

I think the OP misunderstands the purpose of the spoiler button.

If you find someone’s posts long and tedious, you are free not to read them.

I do realize that long, tedious lists might be on-topic, but they can still be long and tedious and if I'm disinterested in re-reading the reams and reams of material that a specific poster routinely Copy/Pastes into thread after thread It would be nice not to have to scroll endlessly through them while hoping not to miss the input of another contributor along the way.

An Ignore ala various on-line communities would be wonderful, but probably not practical to implement.

However, many posters (myself included) have found the Spoiler button a useful and polite way to streamline a post or thread when including long lists that others might find tedious.

Granted, I don't always do this ... it just depends ... upon the circumstances.

How about this idea ... just like the main page now has a Collapse triangle for entire forums, if we could individually Collapse posts within a thread then I could hide the stuff I don't want to have to scroll through time after time after time while looking for new posts on the thread that otherwise interests me.

FWIW,

Rez

P.S. Don't warm up that bull just yet :-)

Paizo Employee Director of Game Development

I'll ship everyone on here a mouse with a scroll wheel, or instruct users to click on the little bar on the side of their browser before I sit pretty with a season of Survivor: Paizo Messageboards.

This thread actually makes me think of new rules for my MessageBoard Card game, so thanks!

The Exchange

Rezdave wrote:

Just take a look at this thread.

Maybe we can just put Yellowdingo on probation until he can learn to use the Spoiler button?

Or how about just an option to Ignore certain posters? Please ... anything.

Heck, make me a Moderator and I'll even edit the Spoiler Tag into the post.

But it really makes the threads tedious and drives me away from the Paizo forums and thus the Paizo website and thus the Paizo Store and Paizo products.

FWIW,

Rez

That's just YellowDingo - you get used to him. Any thread like that, and up he will pop. Frankly, there are a number of people who I would much rather ban than him, as he seems to be a generally ok, and polite, guy.


What a thoroughly lazy complaint. Like scrolling down a bit is gonna make your finger fall off. Sheesh! I bet you'd have someone else use the toilet for you, too, if it weren't for the fact that you get to sit down to do it.

Liberty's Edge

I like YellowDingo's posts.


Daigle wrote:
This thread actually makes me think of new rules for my MessageBoard Card game, so thanks!

Messageboard card game? Details, please.

Sovereign Court

Kruelaid wrote:
<Gets out his crayons and makes a ban wishlist>

Ooh! ooh! Can I be on the list?


Callous Jack wrote:

Kruelaid wrote:

<Gets out his crayons and makes a ban wishlist>

Ooh! ooh! Can I be on the list?

Can I have a crayon?


stuff like this makes lunchtime priceless....


I barely got through the first post before saying to myself, "This is made for Yellowdingo. And then I saw another poster cast Summon Yellowdingo. So it was just inevitable.

It does get annoying if he threadjacks a discussion centered around something like barfights and turns it into a discussion of economics and the bar glass industry.

But that's just who he is. He loves his stuff.

Yellowdingo is...weird.

Dark Archive

I vote to ban me.........

Dark Archive Contributor

Chalk me up (with all the weight my job title brings with it) as another supporter of Yellowdingo. Sorry OP, just scroll down.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

I don't see anything wrong with his post(s). Someone asked about taxing and he provided a wealth of awesomeness.

Grand Lodge

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Yellowdingo's posts are like Christmas presents ... each one is a prescious little gift chok full of strangley entertaining goodness. His kookiness is what makes his posts interesting.

But no matter how hard he tries, I still don't think estate management rules should be in the core. Sorry, 'Dingo.

There are other, more deserving people that would go a ban list long before Yellowdingo. He's polite and considerate; more that can be said for some posters.

-Skeld

Grand Lodge

Yea he's hardly that bad compared to may of the other messageboards. Show him some love and maybe he will be more careful with the spoilers.

Sovereign Court

Y'know, guys. The OP also suggested an Ignore function, which God help me, I know I'd be happy to use on one or two posters, and I'm sure one or two posters might be happy to use on me.

But don't even get me started on the functionality of these messageboards, we could be here all day.


cappadocius wrote:

Y'know, guys. The OP also suggested an Ignore function, which God help me, I know I'd be happy to use on one or two posters, and I'm sure one or two posters might be happy to use on me.

But don't even get me started on the functionality of these messageboards, we could be here all day.

Adding new functionality to the messageboards may be a secondary priority to improving the overall performance of them. I've started to check out Logue's messageboards more frequently because I can post there without having to type it in notepad first. Growing your own messageboards from scratch is tough. I've done it and I doubt I'd ever do it again.

I think what the d20/OGL industry needs is a more unifed model of information interchange. That's a fancy way of saying that we need either one dominant forum that unifies some of these satellites (Paizo, Kobold Quarterly, Sinister) or a more freeform way for information (user profiles, posts) to flow between them. The biggest obstacle to that kind of thing wouldn't be technical, it would be getting people on-board with the idea.


cappadocius wrote:
Y'know, guys. The OP also suggested an Ignore function, which God help me, I know I'd be happy to use on one or two posters

The Ban thing was mostly tongue-in-cheek and I know is non-viable. I'm glad someone caught the Ignore suggestion, though, which is a better and realistic one.

Also, lost in the middle of this thread I came up with a Collapsable Post suggestion that should be easiest and might be best. I might have to re-post those in another thread that maybe isn't so trollish-sounding and potentially flame-baiting as this :-)

Rez


menacing crowd wrote:
The Jade wrote:

Ban roll-on, FOR ALL OF YOU!

::Tosses deodorant to the masses from his imperial balcony.::

Am I not a generous master?

grumblegrumblegrumblegrumble

voice 1: How can we use deodorant when the flying dire lemmings have eaten our torsos?

voice 2: Yes! And where were you when the Kobold kept tricking us into reading his explosive runes scrolls?

voice 3: And you throw us travel-size personal hygiene products, even while Kid Rime, the chosen Pokemon of the gated community, wields his nightstick? Do you think that we have a naivety that matches our malodorousness?

several voices: You will not escape being menaced so easily! We have passed volatility and are nearing truculence!

GRUMBLEGRUMBLEGRUMBLEGRUMBLEGRUMBLE

Let them eat orc pie.

::Giggles aristocratically and saunters back into his luxurious castle::

Liberty's Edge

Herald wrote:
Yea he's hardly that bad compared to may of the other messageboards. Show him some love and maybe he will be more careful with the spoilers.

Yeah, his post are much more substantial than many others--like that guy a few threads over who just goes on and on and on about the price of gas!

Dark Archive Contributor

Andrew Turner wrote:
Yeah, his post are much more substantial than many others--like that guy a few threads over who just goes on and on and on about the price of gas!

Or that dude from Paizo who keeps talking about ninjas. Geez...

Liberty's Edge

DudeMonkey wrote:
cappadocius wrote:

Y'know, guys. The OP also suggested an Ignore function, which God help me, I know I'd be happy to use on one or two posters, and I'm sure one or two posters might be happy to use on me.

But don't even get me started on the functionality of these messageboards, we could be here all day.

Adding new functionality to the messageboards may be a secondary priority to improving the overall performance of them. I've started to check out Logue's messageboards more frequently because I can post there without having to type it in notepad first. Growing your own messageboards from scratch is tough. I've done it and I doubt I'd ever do it again.

I think what the d20/OGL industry needs is a more unifed model of information interchange. That's a fancy way of saying that we need either one dominant forum that unifies some of these satellites (Paizo, Kobold Quarterly, Sinister) or a more freeform way for information (user profiles, posts) to flow between them. The biggest obstacle to that kind of thing wouldn't be technical, it would be getting people on-board with the idea.

The more resources they use on the boards, the less they use on products. This, to me, is a Bad Trade.


Timespike wrote:
The more resources they use on the boards, the less they use on products. This, to me, is a Bad Trade.

Paizo would probably not be the group to implement that idea. It just came up while I was typing on their boards.

I was just proposing that someone take the long-term perspective.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32

Banned! BANNED! You're all BANNED!

<mad laughter ensues>


While I agree that yellowdingo is a tedious poster who pulls random math and irrelevent facts out of his ass, I think that banning him is a bit extreme.

Scarab Sages

Rezdave wrote:

Should I fear the fate of Phalaris?

Rez

P.S. Don't warm up that bull just yet :-)

MMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!!!!!!!!

Scarab Sages

Seriously, though; is that the source of my gorg(on)eous avatar?


Snorter wrote:
Seriously, though; is that the source of my gorg(on)eous avatar?

It's from a Gorgonburgers advertisement.

"The harder the hide, the sweet the meat!" or so went their jingle.

That chain went out of business ages ago when the food starting killing customers and taking their stuff.

Scarab Sages

Why do they even call it a Gorgon in D&D, anyway?

Everyone knows the Gorgons were the three sisters with the snakey hair, of which Medusa was the most famous.

I suspect the metal-skinned bull, with the poison breath is a Babylonian or Assyrian legend, but I can't seem to get this confirmed, or what name the creature originally went by.

I do recall that it made an appearance in a TV miniseries of 'Jason and the Argonauts', the one with Dennis Hopper (?) as the villainous king.

Anyone shed any light on this?

It's more fun than debating banning poor yellowdingo, after all.

Sovereign Court

From Wikipedia:
The Khalkotauroi (tauroi khalkeoi, "bronze bulls") are mythical creatures that appear in the Greek myth of Jason and the Golden Fleece. They are two immense bulls with bronze hooves and bronze mouths through which they breath fire. In the Argonautica, Jason is promised the prized fleece by King Aeetes if he can first yoke the Khalkotauroi and use them to plough a field. The field was then to be sown with dragon's teeth.


So I guess rather than use the name khalkotauroi they just used gorgon because it wasn't being used and was easier for folks to remember.

Medusa became the new name of her gorgonkind, probably due to name recognition.

If D&D medusae had been called gorgons and gorgons had been called khalkotaurs, I would been just as happy.


Snorter wrote:
Everyone knows the Gorgons were the three sisters with the snakey hair, of which Medusa was the most famous.

Everyone may "know" it, but that doesn't make it true. In the first version of the myth I ever read only Medusa had snakes for hair, and her "gorgon" sisters were bull-like creatures with scales and fangs like snakes.

Actually, the whole snake-haired thing and even the singular identity of Medusa herself is a relatively late development in the history of the Gorgon myth.

Rez

P.S. I declare my Thread-jack on YOU (well, this round, anyway) !!!


Thanks for the link, Rez.

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