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Snorter wrote:


Wouldn't that have still caused PCs to go after it, though?
After all, if they had amended the pic, the players would ask "Why are you showing us that picture? I know what a rabbit looks like.", and suspect a trick.

If the bunny has two horn-stumps, I bet there's somebody out there decides to catch themselves a 'baby jackalope'. LOL

I actually never showed my players pics until after the encounter started. I used to rely on narration, description - that was of course way before the advent of plastic mini's and resin dungeons. So lazy.

Beyond using the WISC in S3, I never had any real use for the monster, at least in D&D - perfect for Gamma World though. So the pic of the bunnyoid on top of the WISC in the MMII was never really a problem for me (well, maybe deep in my subconscious mind), I would just like Pazio to correct a 27 year old art mistake.

But if they decide to keep the two horn MMII S3 reprint legacy I probably wouldn't go the baby jackalope route - maybe a baby al-mi'raj?


Snorter wrote:
Auxmaulous wrote:

WHAT GIVES? This has confused me for many, many (27) years. Couldn't they have just redrawn or white’d out the rabbit horns in the MMII? Any player who saw the rabbit on the stump in the pic from the MMII would say "Hey, that doesn't look like a normal rabbit! That looks like a rabbit with two horns!" So much for the element of surprise.

Wouldn't that have still caused PCs to go after it, though?

After all, if they had amended the pic, the players would ask "Why are you showing us that picture? I know what a rabbit looks like.", and suspect a trick.

If the bunny has two horn-stumps, I bet there's somebody out there decides to catch themselves a 'baby jackalope'. LOL

Bunnies? Who said it has to be bunnies?


Now if the lure could be changed by the WiSC to resemble different creatures that might work

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber; GameMastery Superscriber)

Let's have it waggle a six-pack and a kebab, to lure fellows rolling home from the pub.


I love all these books, ecologies are always great. Where does one throw out requests for the next one? I'd love to see a "Monsters of Legend Revisited", you know yeti, kraken, lake monster... those sort of beasties would be awesome to see next. (Wasn't sure where else to post this by the way.)

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Panguinslayer7 wrote:
I love all these books, ecologies are always great. Where does one throw out requests for the next one? I'd love to see a "Monsters of Legend Revisited", you know yeti, kraken, lake monster... those sort of beasties would be awesome to see next. (Wasn't sure where else to post this by the way.)

I'd go with the Pathfinder Chronicles Fourm.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

@ Auxmaulos: If you decide the WISC can morph his "appendage" (heh that sounds wrong!) into anything he likes then so be it. I didn't even notice horns, I just saw the pic online with its name and stats and made everything else up. Was a 'normal' rabbit in my game.

Heck, the WISC could even be a distant relative of the Mimic?

Osirion (Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

Matthew Morris wrote:

Well if anything should be from another world, it's the wolf-in-sheeps-clothing.

D20 modern wisc, would have a 12 pack of beer on a stump and eat stupid hunters.

I will so borrow this for my Buffy game :)


I know its not usable (and that it is a GOOD thing..), but does anyone remember the wingless wonder?


so you finally conceded to the flump masses?


I turned in my contribution on this a week ago, and now I'm thinking, "October? I can't wait that long!"

This was incredibly fun to write, and I'm looking forward to seeing if these monsters have been redeemed.

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Colin McComb wrote:

I turned in my contribution on this a week ago, and now I'm thinking, "October? I can't wait that long!"

This was incredibly fun to write, and I'm looking forward to seeing if these monsters have been redeemed.

Ditto. The point of the book is "hey, these monsters AREN'T completely retarded after all!" - and hopefully going to the next level of "In fact, they are pretty frickin cool!" I was happy with my turnover. We'll see what people think come this fall.


I was stoked about my turnover and I truly hope I redeemed the beastie. I can't wait to see how the rest of the critters turned out.


I've developed 7 of the 10 monsters so far, and I'm impressed with how they've all turned out.

Cheliax (Bella Sara Charter Superscriber)

Adam Daigle wrote:
I was stoked about my turnover and I truly hope I redeemed the beastie. I can't wait to see how the rest of the critters turned out.

Which one was yours?

Qadira (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Battles Case Subscriber)

Sebastian wrote:
Adam Daigle wrote:
I was stoked about my turnover and I truly hope I redeemed the beastie. I can't wait to see how the rest of the critters turned out.
Which one was yours?

Heh. Gotta be the flumph


You would be correct!

Qadira (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Battles Case Subscriber)

Adam Daigle wrote:
You would be correct!

I'm glad our noble pancake-monster misfit was left in caring hands ...

Osirion (Pathfinder Campaign Setting Charter Superscriber)

I know this will be an interesting product, but it really strikes me as unnecessary, it's so niche, aren't there 100 topics that should be covered before something like this?

This and Magic items revisited are in great part of the reason why I canceled my chronicles subscription.

Cheliax (Bella Sara Charter Superscriber)

Adam Daigle wrote:
You would be correct!

Oh.

My.

I won't hold that against you.

Silver Crusade (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

DragonBelow wrote:

I know this will be an interesting product, but it really strikes me as unnecessary, it's so niche, aren't there 100 topics that should be covered before something like this?

This and Magic items revisited are in great part of the reason why I canceled my chronicles subscription.

These poor monsters have waited for 30 years for justice. It's about time.


Adam Daigle wrote:
You would be correct!

It was YOU who stole it from me! When Sean offered me parts, he hadn't crossed the flumph off yet, and I was so excited... so very, very excited... until he had to confess that he had offered its love to another.

If a few months ago you heard a piteous shatter, it was the sound of my heart breaking.

At least I got to do the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing.


Sorry to snag that one. I'm not really, but I'm sorry you were disappointed about not getting it. :) Sean contacted me and asked how clear my plate was because he had a project for me. He couldn't even tell me what the project was at the time, but said I'd love it and everyone told him to contact me. I of course accepted without even knowing the gig, but I had my suspicions.

I'm sure some of that resulted from co-conspiring a pro-flumph movement called Go Flumph Yourself! here on these boards.

You got a good chunk of this book and I can't wait to see what you did with some of your critters.

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Adam Daigle wrote:

Sorry to snag that one. I'm not really, but I'm sorry you were disappointed about not getting it. :) Sean contacted me and asked how clear my plate was because he had a project for me. He couldn't even tell me what the project was at the time, but said I'd love it and everyone told him to contact me. I of course accepted without even knowing the gig, but I had my suspicions.

I'm sure some of that resulted from co-conspiring a pro-flumph movement called Go Flumph Yourself! here on these boards.

You got a good chunk of this book and I can't wait to see what you did with some of your critters.

Unless I misremember, Colin did *FOUR* of these freaks. I thought I was doing a hefty chunk with two!


Adam Daigle wrote:

Sorry to snag that one. I'm not really, but I'm sorry you were disappointed about not getting it. :) Sean contacted me and asked how clear my plate was because he had a project for me. He couldn't even tell me what the project was at the time, but said I'd love it and everyone told him to contact me. I of course accepted without even knowing the gig, but I had my suspicions.

I'm sure some of that resulted from co-conspiring a pro-flumph movement called Go Flumph Yourself! here on these boards.

You got a good chunk of this book and I can't wait to see what you did with some of your critters.

Don't worry about it - I was just surprised that no one had taken the flumph at the time Sean was contacting me for the project, and oh, my hopes were high. I should add further that, having read your efforts to... ahem... be Paizo's "flumpher", you were far more qualified to take the critter.

But seriously, I got the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing. That dude is awesome. That was more than enough for me.


Jason Nelson wrote:
Adam Daigle wrote:

Sorry to snag that one. I'm not really, but I'm sorry you were disappointed about not getting it. :) Sean contacted me and asked how clear my plate was because he had a project for me. He couldn't even tell me what the project was at the time, but said I'd love it and everyone told him to contact me. I of course accepted without even knowing the gig, but I had my suspicions.

I'm sure some of that resulted from co-conspiring a pro-flumph movement called Go Flumph Yourself! here on these boards.

You got a good chunk of this book and I can't wait to see what you did with some of your critters.

Unless I misremember, Colin did *FOUR* of these freaks. I thought I was doing a hefty chunk with two!

I always feel a little greedy when Sean asks me how much I want to do. The answer is almost always: AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. This is fun stuff.


Colin McComb wrote:
I always feel a little greedy when Sean asks me how much I want to do. The answer is almost always: AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. This is fun stuff.

Tell me your secret: how do you get him to ask you that? Are you sending him money, confections, and coffee with heartwarming poetry and promises of love? Cause I've been doing that, and I don't think it's been working.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Mark Moreland wrote:
Colin McComb wrote:
I always feel a little greedy when Sean asks me how much I want to do. The answer is almost always: AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. This is fun stuff.
Tell me your secret: how do you get him to ask you that? Are you sending him money, confections, and coffee with heartwarming poetry and promises of love? Cause I've been doing that, and I don't think it's been working.

I thought it was hookers and blow. :)


Shhh..... this is a family orientated thread


Dark_Mistress wrote:
I thought it was hookers and blow. :)

No, Sean's a vegetarian; hookers are meat.


Mark Moreland wrote:
Colin McComb wrote:
I always feel a little greedy when Sean asks me how much I want to do. The answer is almost always: AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. This is fun stuff.
Tell me your secret: how do you get him to ask you that? Are you sending him money, confections, and coffee with heartwarming poetry and promises of love? Cause I've been doing that, and I don't think it's been working.

I shouldn't say he "asks" me. It's more like I tell him what he is going to assign me, and when he does it, I let his puppy go.

Most of it, anyway.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Colin McComb wrote:
Mark Moreland wrote:
Colin McComb wrote:
I always feel a little greedy when Sean asks me how much I want to do. The answer is almost always: AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. This is fun stuff.
Tell me your secret: how do you get him to ask you that? Are you sending him money, confections, and coffee with heartwarming poetry and promises of love? Cause I've been doing that, and I don't think it's been working.

I shouldn't say he "asks" me. It's more like I tell him what he is going to assign me, and when he does it, I let his puppy go.

Most of it, anyway.

~laughter~ Poor Sean.

Silver Crusade (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

I'm so glad that Colin is getting more and more assignments from Paizo. Slowly, slowly my dream of Ultimate Pathfinder Book of Planes (320p. hardcover with foldout maps) by W. Baur, M. Cook, C. McComb, R. Vallese and T. Stewart is becoming more and more real ... make it happen ! :)


Colin McComb wrote:


But seriously, I got the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing. That dude is awesome. That was more than enough for me.

This has always been one of my favorite monsters. I have never understood why people were so down on it.

(Paizo Superscriber)

David Fryer wrote:
Colin McComb wrote:


But seriously, I got the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing. That dude is awesome. That was more than enough for me.
This has always been one of my favorite monsters. I have never understood why people were so down on it.

I think it might be the horned bunny thing...

After Barrier Peaks, I never used it again.

I can;t wait to see what they do with it...


gigglestick wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Colin McComb wrote:


But seriously, I got the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing. That dude is awesome. That was more than enough for me.
This has always been one of my favorite monsters. I have never understood why people were so down on it.

I think it might be the horned bunny thing...

Perhaps, but then I always retroconned the horns anyway.


So can we get a list of who did which monster(s)? Before the book releases?

Flumph: Adam Daigle
Lava Child: Jason Nelson (hinted at on page one of the discussion)
Wolf in Sheeps Clothing: Colin McComb
Others?

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Steven Purcell wrote:

So can we get a list of who did which monster(s)? Before the book releases?

Flumph: Adam Daigle
Lava Child: Jason Nelson (hinted at on page one of the discussion)
Wolf in Sheeps Clothing: Colin McComb
Others?

I also did... THE ADHERER!!!

If he had a theme song, it'd be stuck in your mind, wouldn't it?


Jason Nelson wrote:
Steven Purcell wrote:

So can we get a list of who did which monster(s)? Before the book releases?

Flumph: Adam Daigle
Lava Child: Jason Nelson (hinted at on page one of the discussion)
Wolf in Sheeps Clothing: Colin McComb
Others?

I also did... THE ADHERER!!!

If he had a theme song, it'd be stuck in your mind, wouldn't it?

Another awesome monster! I so want this book.


Colin McComb wrote:


At least I got to do the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing.

I envy you with a world-shattering intensity.


Jason Nelson wrote:
Steven Purcell wrote:

So can we get a list of who did which monster(s)? Before the book releases?

Flumph: Adam Daigle
Lava Child: Jason Nelson (hinted at on page one of the discussion)
Wolf in Sheeps Clothing: Colin McComb
Others?

I also did... THE ADHERER!!!

If he had a theme song, it'd be stuck in your mind, wouldn't it?

Since I see all of my critters are listed above, I'll add:

- Delver
- Disenchanter
- Lurker Above
- WiSC

The hardest part was not filling the space, but rather deciding what to cut.

Silver Crusade (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales Subscriber)

At long last I can have a Wolf-In-Sheep's Clothing to devour my unsuspecting players once more! Yay! Wonder if any of these will be in the Bestiary 2?


Cavalier Lord wrote:

At long last I can have a Wolf-In-Sheep's Clothing to devour my unsuspecting players once more! Yay! Wonder if any of these will be in the Bestiary 2?

There's no overlap between this book and Bestiary 2, but each of the chapters in Misfit Monsters will have a full-page, Bestiary-style stat block treatment for easy use.

And I wrote the Flail Snail!

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Colin McComb wrote:
Jason Nelson wrote:
Steven Purcell wrote:

So can we get a list of who did which monster(s)? Before the book releases?

Flumph: Adam Daigle
Lava Child: Jason Nelson (hinted at on page one of the discussion)
Wolf in Sheeps Clothing: Colin McComb
Others?

I also did... THE ADHERER!!!

If he had a theme song, it'd be stuck in your mind, wouldn't it?

Since I see all of my critters are listed above, I'll add:

- Delver
- Disenchanter
- Lurker Above
- WiSC

The hardest part was not filling the space, but rather deciding what to cut.

That is the truth. Once you find your hook and theme for each one, sometimes it's hard to stop!

I thought I was crazy for doing two, but Colin is obviously categorically INSANE for doing *four*.

I had originally asked for Lava Children and Dire Corbies when this thing first went around, but Rob totally bogarted 'em before I had a chance. I can't wait to find out the story behind their long history of warfare with giant bats... :)

Spoiler:
DOOM! DOOM!


I only bogarted the dire corbies - I wouldn't touch the lava children with a 10-foot pole. Because dire corbies are not misfit monsters at all, you see, but bad-ASS, with a capital BAD!

Spoiler:
DOOM! DOOM! Doom, I tell you!


Jason Nelson wrote:


I thought I was crazy for doing two, but Colin is obviously categorically INSANE for doing *four*.

When the assignments were still up in the air, I was going to be asked about interest in this book, and I was and asked about a few monsters, but noooooooo, Colin had to be insane and do *four*. Thus I sat this book out.

;)

That said, holy crap I can't wait to see what you guys came up with, both those of you that are sane or otherwise. *grin*


Todd Stewart wrote:

When the assignments were still up in the air, I was going to be asked about interest in this book, and I was and asked about a few monsters, but noooooooo, Colin had to be insane and do *four*. Thus I sat this book out.

;)

That said, holy crap I can't wait to see what you guys came up with, both those of you that are sane or otherwise. *grin*

I took those monsters to save you, Todd, because of my enormous respect for your work on the Great Beyond. I said, "Does Todd need a (further) challenge to his sanity?"

And I replied, "No!"

I did it for you.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

The love...so...great...

::Breaks down in unashamed, manly weeping::

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

The love...so...great...

::Breaks down in unashamed, manly weeping::

The love that dares not speak its name.

Spoiler:
DOOM! DOOM!

What? You were expected explosive runes?

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Rob McCreary wrote:

I only bogarted the dire corbies - I wouldn't touch the lava children with a 10-foot pole. Because dire corbies are not misfit monsters at all, you see, but bad-ASS, with a capital BAD!

** spoiler omitted **

Hey, Lava Children, with those creepy never-changing smiles even when the lizard king is totally stabberizing them in the 1st Ed FF illustration - that's high-octane Nightmare Fuel!

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