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HeroScape: Dungeons & Dragons Master Set -- Battle for the Underdark
WOC25359

HeroScape: Dungeons & Dragons Master Set—Battle for the Underdark
Wizards of the Coast

5x5
List Price: $29.99
Our Price: $26.99
Preorder expected January 2010
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Legends of the Dungeons & Dragons universe come to Heroscape!

The hordes of evil must be stopped! The Valkyrie Generals representing the forces of good have summoned brave adventurers to embark on a quest to defeat the black dragons and their wicked allies. Who will prevail and who will perish? Iconic characters and monsters from the worlds of Dungeons & Dragons joins forces with the ultimate build and battle miniatures game to bring new dimensions of fun for everyone, all compatible with other Heroscape figures!

Battle a troll, a band of drow (dark elves), and ultimately face the evil black dragon as the fifty configurable terrain pieces ensure hours of replay to design your own battles. Choose one of the five customizable game scenarios included or create a scenario of your own—it's all up to you!

- Expected approximately January 2010

Are there errors or omissions in this product information? Got corrections? Let us know at webmaster@paizo.com.


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Paizo Employee Vic Wertz (Technical Director),

Vic Wertz

Interesting.

Andoran Gene,

A 18 Devargo Final avatar

Why must Heroscape continue to release nifty expansions...

WHY!!!

Osirion Cralius the Dark (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Dusanu avatar

Huh. Always looked at the Heroscape stuff but never bought it. Might have to check this out just because.

Wolf Munroe (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

Pathfinder 2 1000 A avatar

I think my head just exploded.

I... don't... understand...

Isn't Heroscape a miniature battle system that is in competition with Dungeons and Dragons and the D&D miniatures products?

I've been tempted to buy Heroscape figures before but the bases are so big.

Sharoth (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber),

3 Iron-Dragon avatar

No! No! No! I do not need any more HeroScape sets! ~cries~ DRAT!!! Now I know what I will be ordering next year!

Wolfthulhu,

B 2 C Moon Monster Final avatar

Wolf Munroe wrote:
I think my head just exploded.

I... don't... understand...

Isn't Heroscape a miniature battle system that is in competition with Dungeons and Dragons and the D&D miniatures products?

I've been tempted to buy Heroscape figures before but the bases are so big.


Dungeons & Dragons Miniatures as a minis battle system was canned prior to the launch of 4e. And as you pointed out, the bases are too big to be useful as gaming minis. No competition.

May have to buy this set, even though I gave up on Heroquest awhile back.

Urizen (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

A 2-Vonnarc-col avatar

Wolf Munroe wrote:
I think my head just exploded.

I... don't... understand...

Isn't Heroscape a miniature battle system that is in competition with Dungeons and Dragons and the D&D miniatures products?

I've been tempted to buy Heroscape figures before but the bases are so big.


I've used 'em before. Some are big, but some fit just fine. Once in awhile I'll go to the toy section in a retail store to see if there's any that's suitable to use as minis.

This does have me curious, though! Wish there were better pictures to view.

Wolf Munroe (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

Pathfinder 2 1000 A avatar

Wolfthulhu wrote:
Dungeons & Dragons Miniatures as a minis battle system was canned prior to the launch of 4e. And as you pointed out, the bases are too big to be useful as gaming minis. No competition.

May have to buy this set, even though I gave up on Heroquest awhile back.


Dungeons and Dragons Miniatures as a minis battle system was canned after the launch of 4e. The 4e Green Dragon starter set, Dungeons of Dread, Against the Giants, and Demonweb all come with cards that contain stats for both 4e and the second edition of the miniatures battle game (which is very similar to 4e).

I played the second edition miniature battle game once, it was pretty fun. Since the 4e side of the cards didn't interest me, I thought I might still get use out of the miniatures game side, but then they did away with it. Of course, as I said, the new miniatures game was based on 4e anyway so I guess I could just adapt the 4e cards themselves to that use.

Anyway, that has little to do with Heroscape except that I find it odd that Heroscape has a D&D branded product. (Then again, I think they're both Hasbro.) I don't think having the base be a little too big is a total deal-breaker for using Heroscape minis at my D&D game, but it does deter me nonetheless.

Qadira Skeld (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

Avatar Elan avatar

Wolf Munroe wrote:
...I find it odd that Heroscape has a D&D branded product.

Hasbro moved Heroscape out of their "games" division and over to WotC a year or so ago. WotC has been trying to figure out what to do with Heroscape exactly (it's somewhat outside the norm for them).

There are enough differences between Heroscape and WotC's other miniatures products that there isn't any real competition between products. Heroscape has a different vibe and is marketed to the casual (and younger) gamer audience. Heroscape can also serve as a good introduction to gaming, seeing as how the target age is 8+. This set is part of WotC's efforts to revitalize the game and cross-brand with their other products (namely D&D).

I think this is an ok move. No one will be fooled. Heroscape and D&D have practically nothing in common. If Hasbro were smart, they would start making expansion sets along the vein of the Marvelscape set they sold. Marvelscape wasn't a very good set because it came with just enough terrain to tease you, but not accomplish making a decent board AND the superheroes just weren't very compatible with all the other cool stuff they have (compatible from a power level versus point cost POV). Plain ole sets of figures would work better. Marvel heroes would be cool with some revamp. But keep in mind that Hasbro also makes GI Joe, Transformers, and hold the Star Wars toy license. Can you imagine a Star Wars Clone Wars expansion set for Heroscape? What about Jedi versus Transformers Versus GI Joe? they're sitting on a potential goldmine of popular cross-universe products and they're not doing anything with it. Shame really.

I've been using Heroscape figures for years and my biggest complaint has always been that the frigging bases aren't 1". Beyond that, the figures work pretty good for "D&D."

-Skeld

Taldor DitheringFool (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Cards Subscriber),

Djarrus Gost avatar

...this does look interesting - i wish we could see more details

ghettowedge,

11550 620 18 avatar

Better pic

It looks like all the figs are just rebased D&D minis.

Paizo Employee Vic Wertz (Technical Director),

Vic Wertz

ghettowedge wrote:
Better pic

It looks like all the figs are just rebased D&D minis.


That's clearly a hand-made mockup box, so those may be placeholder images. (Or they may not be...)

Cheliax Kevin Mack (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

Gorum Color avatar

Skeld wrote:
What about Jedi versus Transformers Versus GI Joe? they're sitting on a potential goldmine of popular cross-universe products and they're not doing anything with it.
-Skeld

Now I have the image of a squad of clone troopers riding across tattoine in optimus prime whilst shouting "Yo Joe"

Matthew Morris (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32),

Blue-Dragon avatar

Interesting indeed.

We've been using my heroscape terrain for battletech (makes good for terrain types, elevation changes, etc). I'll have to look this over, It should give me enough for two oversized mapsheets.

KnightErrantJR,

New-05-Hermit avatar

I can't believe they are glorifying a thieving, low down Ambershard as their iconic dwarf . . . hurumph . . .

Andoran Pygon (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

Gold-Dragon avatar

Even though this is labeled as a Master Set, I would still highly recommend trying to get your hands on a Rise of the Valkyries set. You get more terrain and more figures. A much better sample.

That said, I may still pick this one up.

Osirion Tom Baumbach (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Runelords God Symbols FINAL avatar

For those who care, re-basing HeroScape minis is easy and reversible.

Wolfthulhu,

B 2 C Moon Monster Final avatar

Wolf Munroe wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:
Dungeons & Dragons Miniatures as a minis battle system was canned prior to the launch of 4e. And as you pointed out, the bases are too big to be useful as gaming minis. No competition.

May have to buy this set, even though I gave up on Heroquest awhile back.


Dungeons and Dragons Miniatures as a minis battle system was canned after the launch of 4e. The 4e Green Dragon starter set, Dungeons of Dread, Against the Giants, and Demonweb all come with cards that contain stats for both 4e and the second edition of the miniatures battle game (which is very similar to 4e).

Before, after. Whatever. The fact remains that D&D Minis is no longer in production as a game system.

Osirion Snorter (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

Gorgon avatar

Tom Baumbach wrote:
For those who care, re-basing HeroScape minis is easy and reversible.

I've sliced a few bases off Heroclix before. Is it any more tricky than that?

Cheliax David Fryer,

S 01 Shoanti Versus Ogre HI avatar

I must have this set.

Osirion Tom Baumbach (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Runelords God Symbols FINAL avatar

Snorter wrote:
I've sliced a few bases off Heroclix before. Is it any more tricky than that?

HeroScape minis have a plug (usually an extension of a foot) that fits into a slot on the base. This plug is accessible from the bottom of the base, so you just 'push' through to pop the mini off the base. The plug then fits readily into a 1" slotted base (I use round, but square works also - you can also find black plastic ones that are much cheaper, but for the life of me I can't remember what company makes them).

Side note: there is a very slight difference in scale between HeroScape and the standard plastic D&D minis. You really only notice it in a few rare instances.

Osirion Snorter (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

Gorgon avatar

Tom Baumbach wrote:
HeroScape minis have a plug (usually an extension of a foot) that fits into a slot on the base. This plug is accessible from the bottom of the base, so you just 'push' through to pop the mini off the base. The plug then fits readily into a 1" slotted base (I use round, but square works also - you can also find black plastic ones that are much cheaper, but for the life of me I can't remember what company makes them).

Thanks for the info.

Now, who makes black plastic slottabases? Hmmm? Let me see?
LOL

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Carlisle Pathfinder PZO 111 D avatar

I'll be keeping an eye on this to see if it matches the mock-up. I would finally get that elusive black dragon!

Yeah, I've got a friend whose been pretty successful rebasing Heroscape minis, although scale seems less consistent. It would be great if this was the beginning of a trend in Heroscape.

Osirion Tom Baumbach (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Runelords God Symbols FINAL avatar

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
It would be great if this was the beginning of a trend in Heroscape.

That this is a Master Set indicates there will be follow ups, and though I can't find the link it was somewhere on heroscapers.com that I read there are two D&D expansions in progress for 2010.

Osirion Hank McCoy,

Portraits-Tulrin Smaar 2 avatar

I've re-mounted several HeroScape minis on 28mm bases and they work great for D&D and PF RPG. I think the HeroScape minis are better sculpts than many of the newer D&D minis. The crystalline looking terrain would be great to use for D&D too.

But from looking at pictures on other sites, it seems as though Hasbro has simply re-based figures originally released as D&D miniatures to make them work for HeroScape.

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