Will the heroes be able to wrest control of the realm from the monstrous bandit known only as the Stag Lord?

Very cool.

blurb wrote:

Will the heroes be able to wrest control of the realm from the monstrous bandit known only as the Stag Lord?

Paizo's going stag? Does that mean Seoni won't be in the AP?

I am staggered by your Pun.

Wow, this sounds sooooo cool!

While it is still a ways off, I imagine this adventure path will do much to break the typical D&D adventure mold. Hopefully anyone who thinks that the APs are merely variations on the same theme will see this and take heart.

Tam

While it is still a ways off, I imagine this adventure path will do much to break the typical D&D adventure mold. Hopefully anyone who thinks that the APs are merely variations on the same theme will see this and take heart.

Tam

Hopefully this will satisfy that itch.

I'm very excited about the prospect of this AP, I've wanted to run something with this theme for a long time.

OK, seriously jazzed about this!

Zeugma wrote:

blurb wrote:

Will the heroes be able to wrest control of the realm from the monstrous bandit known only as the Stag Lord?

Paizo's going stag? Does that mean Seoni won't be in the AP?

Don't be silly. Seoni is busy in Cheliax.

I am staggered by your Pun.

I'm very excited about this adventure path. New fiction by Jeff Grubb! AZURE BONDS remains one of my favorite Forgotten Realms novels, and I read LORD TOADE in one laughter-filled sitting--and then immediately turned back to the beginning and read it again. :)

AZURE BONDS was a good one, can't wait to see the story in this one

Sounds cool. It's great to see Jeff Grubb on Pathfinder.

Lord Fyre wrote:

Zeugma wrote:

blurb wrote:

Will the heroes be able to wrest control of the realm from the monstrous bandit known only as the Stag Lord?

Paizo's going stag? Does that mean Seoni won't be in the AP?

Don't be silly. Seoni is busy in Cheliax.

I am staggered by your Pun.

I was racked with laughter, but I see your point.

While it is still a ways off, I imagine this adventure path will do much to break the typical D&D adventure mold. Hopefully anyone who thinks that the APs are merely variations on the same theme will see this and take heart.

And while people get excited about the Stag King, I'm more intruiged by this reference:

As the war with the bandit kings of the River Kingdoms escalates,...

This AP looks hella awesome!

This AP looks hella awesome!

Dude, La Jolla, Cali FTW !

Wow man! This looks totally gnarly!

My wallet, downloads and my forum titles suggest that I'm a big fan of almost everything Paizo puts out - but in all honesty, I think this is the most exciting adventure path I've read about yet.

Between the RPG and this AP, I can't wait.

Have I mentioned how excited I am to get ahold of this AP? No? Well expect me to do so a couple of hundred times before the release of the first chapter.

Oh, definitely looking forward to this.

Ohh Pathfinder meets Birthright (sort of). Definately interested in this as one of the longest running and most fun campaigns I've ever run had the PC's as domain rulers (using the old Basic D&D rules for running domains, plus extra material from Bruce Heard's Princess Ark column in Dragon magazine). Still love those rules, so looking forward to seeing what Paizo come up with for running realms.

I think it will be interesting to see how big the "Kingmaker sandbox" is - presently I intend to use Kingmaker as a 'sequel' to Council of Thieves (which may require re-tooling the end of CoT to facilitate KM).

Ah the old days (as it were) of "Expert Set", where you could carve a 'domain' out of the howling wilderness, claim your throne and crush all pretenders to your crown... ^_^

I hope we'll get a set of kingdom building/defining rules in this AP and a set of accompanying mass battle rules (or as Pathfinder Companion 200 page book ;-) ). There are some decent ones in the d20 community, but I'd like to see Paizo take a plunge and give us rules and ideas on how to build and manage a kingdom and how to solve mass combat situations (AEG's Empire comes to mind as an example of basic (relatively) simple rules that have a number of options to be expanded). Please.

Birthright, sigh
Expert Set, sigh
Good old times, sigh

Regards,

Kosta

This reminds me of the Birthright game world. It was chock full of story and flavor. I even ran an PbEM on AOL sometime when it came out. I am eagerly awaiting this baby.

I'm definitely looking forward to these adventures because I have been craving something with a mixture of politics and combat. I just wish it was coming out sooner then feb 2010 xD. Also i'm brand new to Pathfinder and i'm slowly collecting the books and modules so I know those will be an awesome edition.

Does anyone else get a "Keep on the Borderlands" vibe off this, or is it just me? I'm more jazzed about this than any of the other APs (and, as you can see from my forum title, I've got them all).

I hope we'll get a set of kingdom building/defining rules in this AP and a set of accompanying mass battle rules (or as Pathfinder Companion 200 page book ;-) ). There are some decent ones in the d20 community, but I'd like to see Paizo take a plunge and give us rules and ideas on how to build and manage a kingdom and how to solve mass combat situations (AEG's Empire comes to mind as an example of basic (relatively) simple rules that have a number of options to be expanded). Please.

Konstantin Dika wrote:

I hope we'll get a set of kingdom building/defining rules in this AP and a set of accompanying mass battle rules (or as Pathfinder Companion 200 page book ;-) ). There are some decent ones in the d20 community, but I'd like to see Paizo take a plunge and give us rules and ideas on how to build and manage a kingdom and how to solve mass combat situations (AEG's Empire comes to mind as an example of basic (relatively) simple rules that have a number of options to be expanded). Please.

Detailing something along these lines is a big part of Kingmaker. There'll be rules for building your own cities, your own kingdoms, exploring and settling wildlands, and mass battles. Not as detailed as Birthright, but more like the War Machine rules.

That sort of stuff gets me really excited, and I can't wait for this one. It's too bad it's too complicated to have some sort of contest, wherein you guys take entries from people that detail the kingdom/city/etc created with this AP, and then whichever you pick as the winner actually enters into canon as a legitimate entity.

Oh, I'd never heard of this RPG Superstar - very interesting. I had no idea you guys allowed consumers to write content.

Oh, I'd never heard of this RPG Superstar - very interesting. I had no idea you guys allowed consumers to write content.

This looks promising!

It looks like this is going to be the next AP i will be DMing :) Can't wait to know more.

I am very excited about this particular AP. There has been a lot of talk by Paizo editors about this AP being different than anything done before it. It is being coined a "sandbox" adventure path. I am intrigued.

What I would like to ask are some questions that will help everyone understand the precedence of this event and how it could change the hobby.

The game has long been understood to be about adventuring and becoming powerful, but seldom do we see a rise of a king or a kingdom that gives the "feeling" that we are nouveau royalty. It seems logical that becoming rich and powerful would lead to ascendancy (to be a king). Many of us have experienced controlling kingdoms in computer games, but how will PRPG and kingdom building be successfully blended together?

I am curious if there is a model for doing this in previous products throughout the years of the game. Is there a past example that has had some success?

Hopefully, if this product does accomplish its goal, could it usher in a new form of RPG gaming?

And could this give rise to a new approach of Paizo's handling of Epic Level Play?

Thank You Paizo!
I love what you do.

Updated description with correct author credits. (The cover image is still a placeholder, and has not been updated.)

Updated description with correct author credits. (The cover image is still a placeholder, and has not been updated.)

this is just the type of campaign i wish to run or play right now, currently I have had enough of the save the world campaigns. I wish it was out now, instead of the council of thieves.

Small design request: Can the spines for these books be some other color instead of black? When I'm looking at the PFs on my shelf, I love that RotRL and LoF stand out with their white and red spines but black is used on the rest of them. The different colors allow me to quickly spot what I'm looking for and look nice overall.
Pretty please?

Pretty please?

Small design request: Can the spines for these books be some other color instead of black? When I'm looking at the PFs on my shelf, I love that RotRL and LoF stand out with their white and red spines but black is used on the rest of them. The different colors allow me to quickly spot what I'm looking for and look nice overall.
Pretty please?

Callous Jack wrote:

Pretty please?

*nods in agreement*

Callous Jack wrote:

Small design request: Can the spines for these books be some other color instead of black? When I'm looking at the PFs on my shelf, I love that RotRL and LoF stand out with their white and red spines but black is used on the rest of them. The different colors allow me to quickly spot what I'm looking for and look nice overall.
Pretty please?

Probably. The covers of Kingmaker are going to be some sort of blue is my understanding. I'm not sure if Sarah's planning on extending that cover to the spines, though. I'll run the idea by her anyway.

Kingmaker is going to be my first Paizo AP subscription product and, after reading all the descriptions of the AP, I have to say that I'm super excited about it! I only got into Pathfinder and Paizo maybe a year ago, when the Beta playtest was still in the classes section, but I've been a huge fan ever since and am currently running Second Darkness in PF.

I haven't been able to subscribe to the AP line yet, and will be starting when Kingmaker starts, so I'm really geared up for next year!

Kingmaker is going to be my first Paizo AP subscription product and, after reading all the descriptions of the AP, I have to say that I'm super excited about it!

I'm also very excited by this AP - I'll be going from running two (#1 and #3) down to just this, and I think it'll be worth it.

And keep the Purple! - it looks glorious!

Purple is the color of royalty. ;-)

Would this AP work well with a party of evil characters?

Would this AP work well with a party of evil characters?

Purple is the color of royalty. ;-)

Alright, seriously, why not light green or emerald? And/or dark green spine?