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Some of the featured NPCs in the guide have Exile as a trait. Did I miss that one somewhere?

Some of the featured NPCs in the guide have Exile as a trait. Did I miss that one somewhere?

If the characters you're referring to are from the final chapter of the book, where the Paizo PCs live, then Exile is a trait I made up for that particular game that I'm running for them.

As is Favored Son, I suppose... any chance that those will become official traits some day? 'cause now I'm REALLY interested to see them!

+1 for seeing the Exile & Favoured Son traits

Sounds like an easy blog post, James.... :)

Busted?

So hey, when are we going to see the other 4 installments of the web enhancement for this? The last one was posted on the blog all the way back on April 2nd...

I'll remind Crys about that. Though I think it's only another two installments.

i am hoping someone can help shed some light here for me... i am very new to running any kind of 3.5 or DnD campaign, although i have been running games for about 20 years now, i stayed away from dnd for some reason i never understood... now i am running pathfinder for my friends and they are loving it.

seeing as how i am a 'sandbox' GM, i tend to let the players create the adventures and give them an overall objective to acheive and use guides like this to save myself time and energy.

now my players are looking them over, and they are trying to figure out how some PC characters in the book where made (an example is Shensen)... and i dont have an answer for them. the stats seem kind of high for the level the character is supposed to be.

can anyone shed some light for me on how this character was created so i can get the player off my back about it?

what they are asking about is this:

if the characters where created using the 4d6 drop the lowest method, how did a 12th level character get 2 stats in the 20's (one 22 and one 24). even with a racial bonus of +2 for half elf, and +3 attribute increases for being 12th, that means at best one stat could be 23... my players want to know what else can give you bonuses to your stats.

I believe you'll find the answer to your question in the Combat Gear section of Shensen's stat block, specifically the belt of incredible dexterity +4 and the headband of alluring charisma +4.

cool! answers that question. i thought that only added a bonus to the stat bonus, not to the stat it self. thanks!

Shensen is a particularly complicated character; she's a reincarnated drow, so she also got the drow bonuses to her mental stats—those bonuses don't vanish when you get reincarnated.

IOW, James is Cheaty McCheaterson. :)

IOW, James is Cheaty McCheaterson. :)

God bless you, I thought I was going to explode with the urge to post something snarky :P

And cool Shenshen avatar!

Shensen is a particularly complicated character; she's a reincarnated drow, so she also got the drow bonuses to her mental stats—those bonuses don't vanish when you get reincarnated.

Hey, Shensen came by her cheatin' honestly... one brutal character death at a time!

Yeah; no cheating involved, to be honest. All that was earned with blood, sweat, and tears in confrontations with hook horrors, gorillas, demonic surgical machines, gorillas, overly templated dragons, gorillas, monsters I invented myself used against me, gorillas, insane fellow players with hyperdestructive characters, and gorillas.

Also, gorillas.

Yeah; no cheating involved, to be honest.

I nominate this to be the quote of the day!

Yeah; no cheating involved, to be honest. All that was earned with blood, sweat, and tears in confrontations with hook horrors, gorillas, demonic surgical machines, gorillas, overly templated dragons, gorillas, monsters I invented myself used against me, gorillas, insane fellow players with hyperdestructive characters, and gorillas.

Also, gorillas.

NOT to be confused with monkeys, of course.

Never.

Okay, after two months, I've finally gotten around to reading this thing. I'm curious about Halig Oaklage, the Gebbite ghast cleric on page 11. I thought that you had to have 4 or more Hit Dice to become a ghast. Otherwise, you just become a ghoul. So how did Halig get to be a ghast? Any thoughts on the subject?

Okay, after two months, I've finally gotten around to reading this thing. I'm curious about Halig Oaklage, the Gebbite ghast cleric on page 11. I thought that you had to have 4 or more Hit Dice to become a ghast. Otherwise, you just become a ghoul. So how did Halig get to be a ghast? Any thoughts on the subject?

When you become a ghast (or a ghoul, for that matter), you lose all your class levels and basically "start over" with your new race. Halig's 3 cleric levels were gained after he became a ghast.

Aaron Bitman wrote:

Okay, after two months, I've finally gotten around to reading this thing. I'm curious about Halig Oaklage, the Gebbite ghast cleric on page 11. I thought that you had to have 4 or more Hit Dice to become a ghast. Otherwise, you just become a ghoul. So how did Halig get to be a ghast? Any thoughts on the subject?

When you become a ghast (or a ghoul, for that matter), you lose all your class levels and basically "start over" with your new race. Halig's 3 cleric levels were gained after he became a ghast.

It sucks, but at least he's immortal(ish) now. :)

When you become a ghast (or a ghoul, for that matter), you lose all your class levels and basically "start over" with your new race. Halig's 3 cleric levels were gained after he became a ghast.

Interesting...

So Hallit got to at least 4th level growing fruit? I guess he could have had fights with other slaves.

Anyway, thank you for the reply.

So Hallit got to at least 4th level growing fruit? I guess he could have had fights with other slaves.

Or someone could have used create undead on his corpse, which doesn't have a level requirement for its target. It's not like he was killed in a ghast attack, after all, he was sacrificed as part of a ritual.

Yeah; no cheating involved, to be honest. All that was earned with blood, sweat, and tears in confrontations with hook horrors, gorillas, demonic surgical machines, gorillas, overly templated dragons, gorillas, monsters I invented myself used against me, gorillas, insane fellow players with hyperdestructive characters, and gorillas.

Also, gorillas.

HA! Glitterhaunt FTW, and all those kaorti-spawned freak monsters. Oh the delicious, cruel irony...

Or someone could have used create undead on his corpse, which doesn't have a level requirement for its target. It's not like he was killed in a ghast attack, after all, he was sacrificed as part of a ritual.

Ah yes!

Geb always intrigued me because I have trouble wrapping my brain around the idea of a society based heavily on necromancy. I always wanted to read more about Geb, because I have trouble thinking of ideas like THAT one. Thank you!

Arnim Thayer wrote:

Some of the featured NPCs in the guide have Exile as a trait. Did I miss that one somewhere?

If the characters you're referring to are from the final chapter of the book, where the Paizo PCs live, then Exile is a trait I made up for that particular game that I'm running for them.

James know this was broached earlier in the thread but are we likely to see the Exile or any other traits from the NPC guide being published in either the APG or other forthcoming material [Inner Sea Hardcover]?

Cheers

BD

James Jacobs wrote:

Arnim Thayer wrote:

Some of the featured NPCs in the guide have Exile as a trait. Did I miss that one somewhere?

If the characters you're referring to are from the final chapter of the book, where the Paizo PCs live, then Exile is a trait I made up for that particular game that I'm running for them.

James know this was broached earlier in the thread but are we likely to see the Exile or any other traits from the NPC guide being published in either the APG or other forthcoming material [Inner Sea Hardcover]?

Cheers

BD

A selection of traits from James's Sandpoint game (including Exile) do indeed make an appearance in the Advanced Player's Guide, as example Campaign Traits.

James know this was broached earlier in the thread but are we likely to see the Exile or any other traits from the NPC guide being published in either the APG or other forthcoming material [Inner Sea Hardcover]?

The Advanced Player's Guide puts traits into a hardcover book; and among those rules are rules for Campaign Traits. The traits for my Sandpoint campaign ended up being the ones used as an example for that book, so yes, these traits will be in print in the Advanced Player's Guide.

Thanks gents - think that just made the APG even more requisite [if that's possible!] :) - damn can't wait to get my hands on it now!

BD

spamhammer wrote:

Ezren is straight-up strangling a dude on that cover. Nice to see a wizard pushing sixty who isn't afraid to lay the smack down.

He's doing his best Hulk Hogan impression. :D

"Whatcha gonna do, Seltyiel, when these wrinkled 24-inch pythons run wild on you?"

Hmm, if Ezren is Hulk Hogan, then which iconic Pathfinder character would be the Rock or Mick Foley? ;)

More seriously, a question at the people who have a copy of this book -- does it just cover 'generic' NPCs or does it have a few specific characters as well?

EDIT: Never mind, if I'd read a bit more I'd have gotten an answer to my question. *sighs* But these original characters do sound pretty good. Yet another book on Ye Olde "Get It NOW!" list...

Just purchased this, eagerly awaiting my shipment!
Does anyone know when the PDF for this will be available for me to download? Shouldn't it already be available?

I cannae wait to read this!

Unless you actually subscribe to the Pathfinder Campaign Setting product line, you don't get a free PDF with your purchase, which is what I'm guessing is what you mean. You need to purchase the PDF separately if you want one. If you've purchased a PDF copy of the product, you can download it via My Downloads.