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Carrion Hill brings Lovecraftian horror to the game table and irreparable psychic damage to your player characters.Does this perchance mean that sanity rules will be included?
Perhaps! Sanity rules ARE open content, after all!
But what it really means is that fans of the Lovecraft mythos will be seeing a few familiar names and creatures in the adventure.
Carrion Hill brings Lovecraftian horror to the game table and irreparable psychic damage to your player characters.Does this perchance mean that sanity rules will be included?
Perhaps! Sanity rules ARE open content, after all!
But what it really means is that fans of the Lovecraft mythos will be seeing a few familiar names and creatures in the adventure.
Nice. Definantly getting it, then.
Alaska's a state?!...
I heard that! In fact, Alaska is twice the size of measly Texas, and equivalent in land mass to the entire Eastern Seaboard, from Maine to Florida and west of Tennessee. Yes, I am proud of my big honkin' country, er, state, I mean...
Alaska is sooo big, that when I drive from Fairbanks (my home) to the next biggest city, Anchorage, it's like a Seattelite driving to Eureka, CA, or a New Yorker driving to Raleigh, NC. That's right, think BIG.
I'm glad they didn't give this to the Logue -- my players just couldn't have handled that! ;PI'm sure Pett will do honourable damage sir.
Undoubtly, sir, but I don't think they could have handled the work of your twisted and deranged -- if absolutely brilliant -- mind. I already dread the day I'm going to start running the Council of Thieves AP... in a sick way, I'm glad that you're aboard the Pathfinder bandwagon, even though it would cost my players their sanity. ;)
But what it really means is that fans of the Lovecraft mythos will be seeing a few familiar names and creatures in the adventure.
Just wondering here -- how and when did the Lovecraft Mythos go out of copyright? I seem to recall that TSR got in some legal trouble with Arkham House back when they did the first edition of the 1st Edition Deities & Demigods for including various Lovecraftian horrors.
That said, I love horror, so I'll be getting this when it comes out.
Mr Baron
(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Modules Subscriber)
Alaska's a state?!...I heard that! In fact, Alaska is twice the size of measly Texas, and equivalent in land mass to the entire Eastern Seaboard, from Maine to Florida and west of Tennessee. Yes, I am proud of my big honkin' country, er, state, I mean...
Alaska is sooo big, that when I drive from Fairbanks (my home) to the next biggest city, Anchorage, it's like a Seattelite driving to Eureka, CA, or a New Yorker driving to Raleigh, NC. That's right, think BIG.
Grrr, Anchorage, all spread out and with a Pi$$poor public transit system... Though I hear you Fairbanks people have it even worse when it comes to busses. Granted you actually drive so... :P
Just wondering here -- how and when did the Lovecraft Mythos go out of copyright? I seem to recall that TSR got in some legal trouble with Arkham House back when they did the first edition of the 1st Edition Deities & Demigods for including various Lovecraftian horrors.
Some of it is in public domain, some of it isn't. Even the stuff that is might have sufficiently Golarion specific names, descriptions and traits and still be able to be used.
Some of it is in public domain, some of it isn't. Even the stuff that is might have sufficiently Golarion specific names, descriptions and traits and still be able to be used.
Just wondering here -- how and when did the Lovecraft Mythos go out of copyright? I seem to recall that TSR got in some legal trouble with Arkham House back when they did the first edition of the 1st Edition Deities & Demigods for including various Lovecraftian horrors.
TSR didn't really get in trouble with Arkham House OR Chaosium, as far as I heard the story. It was more of a case of TSR management not wanting what was effectively a free advertisement for a competing company's games (Chaosium's "Call of Cthulhu" and "Elric" games) in one of their products, and so the later printings excluded this content and focused purely on mythological stuff or on the Newhon myths, which at the time time TSR did have the license for.
All of Lovecraft's writing is now in the public domain, as far as I can tell. It gets a little trickier when you realize that so much of his stuff is intertwined with content created by other writers, some of whom AREN'T in public domain as much. But the content in the actual Lovecraft stories is publicly accessible.
It also gets a little more complicated when you do game content based on Lovecraft, since Chaosium has the license to the "Call of Cthulhu" game (but not all of the actual ideas, since many of those are in the public domain). Nonetheless, we make sure to give callouts to Chaosium whenever we do something Lovecraftian; I for one LOVE their games, and they're an EXCELLENT source for GMs to go to if they want to inject more Lovecraft stuff into their game, be that game Pathfinder, D&D, Mutants & Masterminds, Toon, or whatever.
Carrion Hill will contain specific Lovecraftian elements, in any event, and is very much inspired by Lovecraft's writing.
The actual state of Lovecraft's writing re: public domain is, of course, murky. Basically, it's unclear if his copyrights were ever renewed, and no one seems to have any paperwork to prove it, and/or those who MIGHT have a claim are dead or have no interest. Basically, the majority of his writing I believe firmly entered the Public Domain just a few years ago, which is why when you go into a bookstore these days, you'll see so many different editions of his stories for sale, particularly in editions published by big bookstore chains.
Lovecraft himself certainly encouraged other writers to use his inventions, so using them to develop new stories is absolutely in keeping with Lovecraft's wishes, I suspect, were he still alive today. His writing certainly does still show up in modern writers' work today in this manner.
nice
really some rules for sanity would be nice, but we can handle them :P
TSR didn't really get in trouble with Arkham House OR Chaosium, as far as I heard the story. It was more of a case of TSR management not wanting what was effectively a free advertisement for a competing company's games (Chaosium's "Call of Cthulhu" and "Elric" games) in one of their products, and so the later printings excluded this content and focused purely on mythological stuff or on the Newhon myths, which at the time time TSR did have the license for.
Exactly. It also meant TSR could take pages out of the book (8? 16? However many the Lovecraftian and Moorcock sections added up to) and still charge the same cover price. Clever girl....
TSR didn't really get in trouble with Arkham House OR Chaosium, as far as I heard the story. It was more of a case of TSR management not wanting what was effectively a free advertisement for a competing company's games (Chaosium's "Call of Cthulhu" and "Elric" games) in one of their products, and so the later printings excluded this content and focused purely on mythological stuff or on the Newhon myths, which at the time time TSR did have the license for.Exactly. It also meant TSR could take pages out of the book (8? 16? However many the Lovecraftian and Moorcock sections added up to) and still charge the same cover price. Clever girl....
Cunning... like a fox! Only in the evil way that FOX is for getting good shows canceled on a regular basis.
I'm hoping they [add.: the designators]just haven't been assigned yet.Nope... they're gone. We think we confused people with them.
Now, when modules are designed as part of a series, they'll have some graphical info to tell you that, but it won't be in the title.
Hhm... I must have missed this.
I am very disappointed by this decision. The character/ number designation was a nice bow to the game's history and also from my point of view a better means of orientation than either the product titles themselves (which grow more and more numerous and hard to keep apart) or TSR's past titling schemes.If there was anything confusing about the designators, then it was the increasing number of them which was partly in conflict with the original designators (--> LB, S, P for PFRPG modules). There wasn't anything confusing about D, E, U once you explained their meaning.
And then: What is easier to understand about a product number? ;-)
But then you must know which feedback you received from other customers.
Cheers,
Günther
DitheringFool
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It also gets a little more complicated when you do game content based on Lovecraft, since Chaosium has the license to the "Call of Cthulhu" game (but not all of the actual ideas, since many of those are in the public domain). Nonetheless, we make sure to give callouts to Chaosium whenever we do something Lovecraftian; I for one LOVE their games, and they're an EXCELLENT source for GMs to go to if they want to inject more Lovecraft stuff into their game, be that game Pathfinder, D&D, Mutants & Masterminds, Toon, or whatebver.
Toon? Wow, I'd forgotten about that one. ...what would it be like to catapult pies at The Great Race?
This adventure is all about the Fluffy gnome tribe who go to magic enchanted Goodwood to try to rescue Silky the Unicorn from the clutches of the quite bad wizard Misunderstood Quentin.
I'd actually quite like to see Paizo make this.
I've got a mental image of an adventure you can happily play with quite young kids but which has enough allusions, oblique references and clever in-jokes to keep adult players laughing, and roleplaying, to the end.