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Joshua J. Frost wrote:

And here I thought was complimenting you. I'll take my Azlanti Knowledge title and my toys and go home now.

*harrumph*

Er...

Spoiler:

Explosive runes?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

yoda8myhead wrote:
Joshua J. Frost wrote:
As will the map of the Azlanti Kingdom of Golarion Knowledge, More Land.
Make puns about my name and risk not getting turnovers you're counting on, Frost. I'm not afraid to debunk your misconceptions of holding all the power.

I will mark this sensitivity, well.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Either way josh has made his mark in More Land.

I was walking through More Land when a rare Azlanti yo-date fell on my head.

*sigh* I surrender.


I need to add a second page to my s&++list. Keep it up, jerks.

Taldor (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

After reading the info on the Fifth Freedom, how would the folks of the River Kingdoms view Summoners?

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Tim Statler wrote:
After reading the info on the Fifth Freedom, how would the folks of the River Kingdoms view Summoners?

That's probably depend. A wizard who used planar binding to force an outsider to do his bidding would likely be considered as bad as a slaver. A cleric who bargained with a planar ally, on the other hand, not so much. And as for summon monster spells? That's like a minute or two of slavery for the summoned. Not so bad.

And while Riverfolk may despise a mage who binds demons/devils to his will... they'll probably be far less concerned with the Fifth Freedom when they're staring down a legion of enslaved hellspawn.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

yoda8myhead wrote:
I need to add a second page to my s@%@list. Keep it up, jerks.

Let kiddies be Yoda.

Live by the old adage:

Sticks and stones may break my bones,
but only an Empowered Meteor Swarm will
really f$%# you up
.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

yoda8myhead wrote:
I need to add a second page to my s!#@list. Keep it up, jerks.

You also have a superlist? What number am I on yours?

(Paizo Superscriber)

OK, a few issues with Guide to the River Kingdoms.

It would be nice for each section to have a little picture showing WHERE in the RK it is, so we don;t have to keep flipping to the front and playing Where's Waldo.

This ties into the second problem, some of the places are mis-described in the book.

For example, page 45: Scrawny Crossing.

First Sentence: At the edge of an abandoned ferry crossing in the Eastern River Kingdoms...

But don't look for it there on the map. Look in the east all you want, but on the map, Scrawny Crossing is about as far WEST in the River Kingdoms that you can go and still be in the River Kingdoms.

There is at least one other instance of this in the book (I'll need to re-read it again) but it made it tough to find the places on the map.

Other than that, a great book. And at least I had something to do in the airport waiting for the bumped flight. Trying to find Scrawny Crossing took some time...


gigglestick wrote:
It would be nice for each section to have a little picture showing WHERE in the RK it is, so we don;t have to keep flipping to the front and playing Where's Waldo.

I'd certainly love for them to make more books formatted like the Guide to Korvosa. It had nice little mini maps for quick reference.

Quote:
There is at least one other instance of this in the book (I'll need to re-read it again) but it made it tough to find the places on the map.

Mossbridge or Mossriver or something like that. Dang, already starting to forget. -_-


I was secretly hoping the actual town placement of Uringen wouldn't be noted. I'd actually say that the place on the map is an approximation.

I like that it's hard to find.

(RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor)

Adam Daigle wrote:

I was secretly hoping the actual town placement of Uringen wouldn't be noted. I'd actually say that the place on the map is an approximation.

I like that it's hard to find.

There's definitely some irony to it. "It's not a flaw! It's a feature!" Heh. :-D


Just got it, digesting it now.

I do want to point out that the guy on pg. 2 seems to have made quite the faux pas as far as the Six River Freedoms go. So much for his lengthy rule. :P


Still waiting for the mailman to bring me my copy. But the PDf has been nice reading.


gigglestick wrote:
It would be nice for each section to have a little picture showing WHERE in the RK it is, so we don;t have to keep flipping to the front and playing Where's Waldo.

Even though doing that would mean less text content for that kingdom's entry? Especially for the one-page kingdoms?

gigglestick wrote:

This ties into the second problem, some of the places are mis-described in the book.

For example, page 45: Scrawny Crossing.
First Sentence: At the edge of an abandoned ferry crossing in the Eastern River Kingdoms...
But don't look for it there on the map. Look in the east all you want, but on the map, Scrawny Crossing is about as far WEST in the River Kingdoms that you can go and still be in the River Kingdoms.

Oops, that's my fault. I mean, James Jacobs' fault!!


Sean K Reynolds wrote:

Oops, that's my fault. I mean, James Jacobs' fault!!

I thought Wes was the official scapegoat?


I got my copy of the book today. Seems to be a very good one. A lot of variety in it, that´s for sure.

My group will start Kingmaker in a few weeks. I´m the GM. I wonder, how much of the material in the this guide I can use. There´s only a small section covering the Stolen Lands. And I got the impression, that nearly all of the campaign will take place in that region. Does that mean, that most of the guide will be useless? No Lambreth, no Sevenarches? These are some of the coolest places in all of the River Kingdoms. It would be a pity, if they´re completely left out of the six adventures.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

Stephan wrote:

I got my copy of the book today. Seems to be a very good one. A lot of variety in it, that´s for sure.

My group will start Kingmaker in a few weeks. I´m the GM. I wonder, how much of the material in the this guide I can use. There´s only a small section covering the Stolen Lands. And I got the impression, that nearly all of the campaign will take place in that region. Does that mean, that most of the guide will be useless? No Lambreth, no Sevenarches? These are some of the coolest places in all of the River Kingdoms. It would be a pity, if they´re completely left out of the six adventures.

While elements from other River Kingdoms will pop up in Kingmaker now and then, the entire AP takes place in the Stolen Lands and parts of Pitax. The Kingmaker AP isn't intended to give a tour of the River Kingdoms.

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

The main action of the AP takes place in the Stolen Lands and in

Spoiler:
Pitax.

There are a few references to or appearances by people from other RKs, and there is so much downtime built into the campaign that PCs certainly have the opportunity to explore the other RKs as much as you would like them to; you might even want to reward them for their efforts with boosts to their kingdom's Economy score for establishing trade routes or friendly relations with other RKs, but the core of the AP is about the PCs establishing their own kingdom in the Stolen Lands, not a travelogue of the other RKs.


What was the release date for this? It seems to be the only Pathfinder Chronicle to date that I do not have. I also can't figure out why I haven't received it automatically with my subscription if it has already released.

Tam


It's probably still shipping to subscribers, we only got it in the warehouse very recently.


Tambryn wrote:

What was the release date for this? It seems to be the only Pathfinder Chronicle to date that I do not have. I also can't figure out why I haven't received it automatically with my subscription if it has already released.

Tam

Tam:

It was shipped out in February. Did you get an email in February saying that we were going to ship it? You should post in the Customer Service thread and ask Cos or Sara Marie to check into this for you. Sounds like a sub that got lost in the system for some reason.

-Lisa


Thanks guys. You're right Lisa, the Customer Service forum is more appropriate for this.

Tam

Osirion (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Stephan wrote:

I got my copy of the book today. Seems to be a very good one. A lot of variety in it, that´s for sure.

My group will start Kingmaker in a few weeks. I´m the GM. I wonder, how much of the material in the this guide I can use. There´s only a small section covering the Stolen Lands. And I got the impression, that nearly all of the campaign will take place in that region. Does that mean, that most of the guide will be useless? No Lambreth, no Sevenarches? These are some of the coolest places in all of the River Kingdoms. It would be a pity, if they´re completely left out of the six adventures.

P.S. Glad to hear you're a Lambreth fan!


This may be my new favorite Chronicles. This and Darkmoon Vale are just terrific


I just started reading this, and I located this thread in order to post a comment very much like this one...

Mikaze wrote:
I do want to point out that the guy on pg. 2 seems to have made quite the faux pas as far as the Six River Freedoms go.

...except that I got the impression that woman was a slave BEFORE the old king was killed. I wanted to post the question of how the previous king got away with such a blatant violation of the fifth freedom, but it looks like others may interpret that picture differently.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

Aaron Bitman wrote:

I just started reading this, and I located this thread in order to post a comment very much like this one...

Mikaze wrote:
I do want to point out that the guy on pg. 2 seems to have made quite the faux pas as far as the Six River Freedoms go.

...except that I got the impression that woman was a slave BEFORE the old king was killed. I wanted to post the question of how the previous king got away with such a blatant violation of the fifth freedom, but it looks like others may interpret that picture differently.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Well... rules ARE made to be broken, after all.


What gigglestick and shinmizu were trying to say, by the way, is that the entry for Mosswater begins "In the eastern reaches of the River Kingdoms..." and the map shows that Mosswater is as far WEST in the RKs as you can get.

(I only got to the Mosswater entry just today.)

(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber)

I just got this book and was a bit disappointed at the lack of maps. Besides the overall map of the area, there is nothing else. I was hoping for 'zoomed in' maps of the individual areas & towns. Is there such a thing for this region? Do all Chronicles guides have only one region map?

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

William Edmunds wrote:
I just got this book and was a bit disappointed at the lack of maps. Besides the overall map of the area, there is nothing else. I was hoping for 'zoomed in' maps of the individual areas & towns. Is there such a thing for this region? Do all Chronicles guides have only one region map?

Some Chronicles books have lots of maps ("Heart of the Jungle is one example). Some do not. "Guide to the River Kingdoms" would certainly have benefited from a number of zoomed in maps, I agree, but scheduling and the fact that we had to fit ALL of the river kingdoms into the book more or less conspired to make including maps of each individual kingdom impossible. We would have had to extend the size of the book up to 96 pages and the price up to something like $25.00 if we included all those extra maps, and neither of those was a workable option (we're not sure customers would buy a $25 softcover book enough to justify its printing, and more to the point we didn't have the resources or time to add 32 pages with a LOT of maps to the book).

(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber)

James Jacobs wrote:
William Edmunds wrote:
I just got this book and was a bit disappointed at the lack of maps. Besides the overall map of the area, there is nothing else. I was hoping for 'zoomed in' maps of the individual areas & towns. Is there such a thing for this region? Do all Chronicles guides have only one region map?
Some Chronicles books have lots of maps ("Heart of the Jungle is one example). Some do not. "Guide to the River Kingdoms" would certainly have benefited from a number of zoomed in maps, I agree, but scheduling and the fact that we had to fit ALL of the river kingdoms into the book more or less conspired to make including maps of each individual kingdom impossible. We would have had to extend the size of the book up to 96 pages and the price up to something like $25.00 if we included all those extra maps, and neither of those was a workable option (we're not sure customers would buy a $25 softcover book enough to justify its printing, and more to the point we didn't have the resources or time to add 32 pages with a LOT of maps to the book).

I understand. So, is there currently a source for maps of this area?


I've been working on-again/off-again on a map of Uringen. When I get it finished, I'll post up a picture. (Not that that's official or anything ...or even good, for that matter.)

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6, Contributor)

Adam Daigle wrote:
I've been working on-again/off-again on a map of Uringen. When I get it finished, I'll post up a picture. (Not that that's official or anything ...or even good, for that matter.)

Shouldn't that be more of a here-again/gone-again map?


Russ Taylor wrote:
Adam Daigle wrote:
I've been working on-again/off-again on a map of Uringen. When I get it finished, I'll post up a picture. (Not that that's official or anything ...or even good, for that matter.)
Shouldn't that be more of a here-again/gone-again map?

Much more appropriate. :)

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