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Hee hee! :)
And while I'm here, this might be interesting reading for everyone. :)
so f$%&ing true
damn the world is full of some of those... still..."water pill?" *shivers at the thought*
Just got off the horn with AT&T. For those who need a reminder of how good we have it here, give them a jingle...their motto must be "the customer always needs to be hassled."
Mairkurion gets a point! Tell your mama she did something right raising ya.
While I can see Sean's point, to be clear for all parties - and as I've stated elsewhere - I know we all take our gaming seriously and put extra weight on our new products, but don't take one piece of art, one map, one sentence, or one word in any of our products as being signs of sweeping, multi-line changes. We tend to be quite noisy about those and anyone on these boards will know about it before their subscriptions get to them. We hope you like all the maps in Cities of Golarion - but up front - you might not like them all, it's a subjective thing but we do what we can and we think we have something pretty cool in store.
Also, just a reminder, we've got some nice message boards here which we all like posting to. If you want to be snippy or vent because you had a bad days, your cat yelled at you, or 'cause you don't like Sean's haircut, there are other forums for that - elsewhere. I personally have a stuffed Cthulhu in beachcomber gear that I do most of my yelling and tiradeing at.
Also, just a reminder, we've got some nice message boards here which we all like posting to. If you want to be snippy or vent because you had a bad days, your cat yelled at you, or 'cause you don't like Sean's haircut, there are other forums for that - elsewhere. I personally have a stuffed Cthulhu in beachcomber gear that I do most of my yelling and tiradeing at.
poor Cthlhu!!
Dark_Mistress
(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
Even if I were not planning on running adventures set in Golarion (which I am) I'd still want and buy a product like this (and the Map Folio that's accompanying it) as you can never have enough well detailed cities and they can be easily used in any campaign world. If this does well, here's hoping for another such product down the line, Castles of Golarion perhaps? I still get good use of my City, Castle and Country sites books from 2nd edition D&D and they aren't half as good as what this product sounds like its going to be.
Please don't let this book slip any further, if you can help it. :)
I planned a lot of stuff around having this book in September, and when it moved to October I had to add filler. Now that it has moved to November I'll stall further, but I humbly request that it ship no later than this, if you can manage it.
Please don't let this book slip any further, if you can help it. :)
I planned a lot of stuff around having this book in September, and when it moved to October I had to add filler. Now that it has moved to November I'll stall further, but I humbly request that it ship no later than this, if you can manage it.
I second tbug's humble request!
-Lisa
Please don't let this book slip any further, if you can help it. :)
I planned a lot of stuff around having this book in September, and when it moved to October I had to add filler. Now that it has moved to November I'll stall further, but I humbly request that it ship no later than this, if you can manage it.
I second tbug's humble request!
-Lisa
Thirded!
Thirded!Please don't let this book slip any further, if you can help it. :)
I planned a lot of stuff around having this book in September, and when it moved to October I had to add filler. Now that it has moved to November I'll stall further, but I humbly request that it ship no later than this, if you can manage it.
I second tbug's humble request!
-Lisa
4th!
I really want to see Vigil!
Thirded!Please don't let this book slip any further, if you can help it. :)
I planned a lot of stuff around having this book in September, and when it moved to October I had to add filler. Now that it has moved to November I'll stall further, but I humbly request that it ship no later than this, if you can manage it.
I second tbug's humble request!
-Lisa
4th!
I really want to see Vigil!
5th! Bring on Cassomir and Corentyn!
5th! Bring on Cassomir and Corentyn!Thirded!Please don't let this book slip any further, if you can help it. :)
I planned a lot of stuff around having this book in September, and when it moved to October I had to add filler. Now that it has moved to November I'll stall further, but I humbly request that it ship no later than this, if you can manage it.
I second tbug's humble request!
-Lisa
4th!
I really want to see Vigil!
Ah, Cassomir... 6th! ;)
stopYou had to know that another huge quote train v-wing would happen.
Hopefully though, it dies before it gets started!
Two consecutive references to embarrassing early 90's "rappers" seems to have done the trick. I'm surprised no one went for a Marky Mark reference, but you can't win 'em all. Maybe next time.
Two consecutive references to embarrassing early 90's "rappers" seems to have done the trick. I'm surprised no one went for a Marky Mark reference, but you can't win 'em all. Maybe next time.stopYou had to know that another huge quote train v-wing would happen.
Hopefully though, it dies before it gets started!
If this wasn't a product thread, I'd take that as a challenge. See you in the OT section! ;)
I've updated the product image to match the finished cover. If you see more beige than blue, clear your browser's image cache.Are you sure the authors are right on that?
Hmm. I'm told they're incorrect. The correct list is:
Joshua J. Frost, Tim Hitchcock, Jonathan Keith, Rob McCreary, Jason Nelson, and Jeff Quick
I've updated the product image to match the finished cover. If you see more beige than blue, clear your browser's image cache.Are you sure the authors are right on that?Hmm. I'm told they're incorrect. The correct list is:
Joshua J. Frost, Tim Hitchcock, Jonathan Keith, Rob McCreary, Jason Nelson, and Jeff Quick
That's not the cover that got printed, is it?
That's not the cover that got printed, is it?I've updated the product image to match the finished cover. If you see more beige than blue, clear your browser's image cache.Are you sure the authors are right on that?Hmm. I'm told they're incorrect. The correct list is:
Joshua J. Frost, Tim Hitchcock, Jonathan Keith, Rob McCreary, Jason Nelson, and Jeff Quick
Nope; this hasn't gone to the printer yet. Plenty of time to fix things.
I wasn't expecting to see ... people ... on the cover of this one. A pleasant surprise. I know I sound like a broken record, but who did this art?Svetlin Velinov.
It's (once again) a very good cover! :)
Where do you find these guys and gals?
I mean, Paizo has constantly employed very talented artists who I've never heard of, even though I thought I knew something about the "scene". What's even more amazing to me is that 99% of the time they really "nail" it, even if they hadn't done anything for Paizo before (which, I guess, speaks volumes of the quality of art direction, too).
Mosaic
(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Battles Case Subscriber; GameMastery Superscriber)
Am I mistaken, or did I once see something to the effect of how inside the city of Whitethrone there's a magical effect that allows worgs and winter wolves to walk around as humans?
Because if not, then I now have a perfectly horrid idea about a visitor falling in love with a local woman (and vice-versa). They leave the city, and when he turns to kiss his lady-love...
He finds himself embracing a giant white wolfess. Possibly one who's batting her eyes at him, wagging her tail, and making little "Wuff!" noises at him...
Am I mistaken, or did I once see something to the effect of how inside the city of Whitethrone there's a magical effect that allows worgs and winter wolves to walk around as humans?No, you are not. It was in this blog post.
Thanks, I was certain I'd seen it somewhere on the site.
This is certainly a well-made product that is fun to read. I wonder, though, what is the motivation to publish background on exactly these cities?
As far as I can tell, these cities haven't had any fluff to them before, they are not connected to any adventures, and none of them stood out or lended themselves especially to this treatment before. Thus, the selection, and in consequence the whole product, seems somewhat arbitrary to me at this time, and I'd like to learn more about the reasons for how this came to be.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is not an excellent sourcebook, I'm just wondering where this comes from.
This is certainly a well-made product that is fun to read. I wonder, though, what is the motivation to publish background on exactly these cities?
As far as I can tell, these cities haven't had any fluff to them before, they are not connected to any adventures, and none of them stood out or lended themselves especially to this treatment before. Thus, the selection, and in consequence the whole product, seems somewhat arbitrary to me at this time, and I'd like to learn more about the reasons for how this came to be.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is not an excellent sourcebook, I'm just wondering where this comes from.
I should think all of these points are actually excellent reasons to pick exactly those cities. As a DM I find that the published adventures contain enough background to get me through that adventure, and over the course of an AP a city is filled in very well. This product gives me entire cities to use in my own campaign without a lot of prep work. That alone is worth buying.
I wonder, though, what is the motivation to publish background on exactly these cities?
As far as I can tell, these cities haven't had any fluff to them before, they are not connected to any adventures, and none of them stood out or lended themselves especially to this treatment before. Thus, the selection, and in consequence the whole product, seems somewhat arbitrary to me at this time, and I'd like to learn more about the reasons for how this came to be.
I think that is the entire point. All of the cities involved in AP's have been fleshed out somewhat. This book helps fill out some of the other parts of Golarion. It certainly helps if you are using Golarion as the setting and need some other cities to use in your plot. Very useful tool for GM's. The book itself is what you'd expect, which is a good thing!
I'd buy another of these if they made one. If I had my way, I would actually like the next one to consist of only 4 or 5 cities instead of 6, and in its place add more artwork to show the architecture and feel of each city, as well as highlighting a major building in each city with floor plan and all. But, that's just me being picky.
The cities do all seem to fill different niches; Cassomir is a civilised old empire city, Corentyn is your collapsing city of aincient importance, Ilizmagorti is your home of shadowy intrigue, Nisroch your dark, controlled place, Vigil your fortress community, and Whitethrone your otherworldy magic place.
They're als different to the cities done in detail previously - Korvosa is a contained city state, Katapesh is your standard middle eastern trade city, Absalom is very much a 'city at the centre of the world' etc...
This is certainly a well-made product that is fun to read. I wonder, though, what is the motivation to publish background on exactly these cities?
As far as I can tell, these cities haven't had any fluff to them before, they are not connected to any adventures, and none of them stood out or lended themselves especially to this treatment before. Thus, the selection, and in consequence the whole product, seems somewhat arbitrary to me at this time, and I'd like to learn more about the reasons for how this came to be.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is not an excellent sourcebook, I'm just wondering where this comes from.
The main reason we did this book was to provide six different adventure sites for Golarion. Not everything we do has to be linked to the current Adventure Path, after all... and sometimes its nice and interesting to be able to look at a part of the world we may NEVER set an adventure in.
In other cases, it's handy to get the design work done for a location that we know in a year or two that we'll need something done, and having it done EARLY lets us, say, give the author a strong starting point to set their work in.
And also... we want to do books we're interested in. We like cities, and wanted to see six of them worked up as locations.
+1 for Dungeons of Golarion ! (But please, nothing like that horrible Dungeon book from WotC that came out in the dying days of 3.5)You mean Dungeonscape? Which was written by Paizo's own lead designer Jason Bulmahn?
Hey, I like Dungeonscape! It had tons of classic dungeon weirdness like acid sharks and oddball 'themes'.
BTW, if anyone has a copy of the book, can they let us know what the section on the Irrisen city is like?