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See the blog on Thursday.

But, yes. It was designed to be legal from the start. Why?

Andoran (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

Joshua J. Frost wrote:

See the blog on Thursday.

But, yes. It was designed to be legal from the start. Why?

Mostly because the announcement was made in the advertising, rather than from you, but also because at least one of the prestige classes has a requirement that can't be met within the bounds of PFS play (the Pathfinder savant requires an item creation feat, though I assume it's going to be replaced with the traditional Spell Focus). I just wanted to double check.


Yup. Spell Focus.


What I'd like to know(having seen the cover star) is: Has Lidda defected from Wizards of the Coast to join Paizo? ;)

Edit: winking smiley added in an attempt to avoid knee-jerk reactions from edition-warriors.


Kajehase wrote:

What I'd like to know(having seen the cover star) is: Has Lidda defected from Wizards of the Coast to join Paizo? ;)

Edit: winking smiley added in an attempt to avoid knee-jerk reactions from edition-warriors.

Kajehase, old friend, I wouldn't be amazed at all... as far as I know, 4E does not have any iconic characters.


OK, this just went on my "To Get" list

(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

I've recently finished reading the PDF - and I'm wholly satisfied. Seekers of Secrets is a great addition to Pathfinder lore that will sate DMs and players alike with great new options and possibilities.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Cool book, well worth the read, especially like the details on being an initiate.


Just got mine today, from first skim through it's a neat tool kit centered around a group they've been grooming us for since Burnt Offerings.

(Paizo Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Perhaps this belongs in a different forum, but the Adventurer's Sash is priced at 20 gp, 10x more expensive than a plain back pack. Perhaps I'm missing something but why would one use this instead of any other cheaper form of container? Does it grant something I'm not getting?

Appreciate any thoughts input in advance

Grand Lodge (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Tales, Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Segallion wrote:

Perhaps this belongs in a different forum, but the Adventurer's Sash is priced at 20 gp, 10x more expensive than a plain back pack. Perhaps I'm missing something but why would one use this instead of any other cheaper form of container? Does it grant something I'm not getting?

Appreciate any thoughts input in advance

Accessibility.

The 6 sleeves in the belt allow for fast access to various vials. Plus you want to drop weight quickly, it has a quick release, voila, less dead weight.

Andoran (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

miniaturepeddler wrote:
Segallion wrote:

Perhaps this belongs in a different forum, but the Adventurer's Sash is priced at 20 gp, 10x more expensive than a plain back pack. Perhaps I'm missing something but why would one use this instead of any other cheaper form of container? Does it grant something I'm not getting?

Appreciate any thoughts input in advance

Accessibility.

The 6 sleeves in the belt allow for fast access to various vials. Plus you want to drop weight quickly, it has a quick release, voila, less dead weight.

All requiring a Move actions, which is the same for a backpack, so I don't see why this is better.


The iconic Pathfinder Savant, Akmanya, is carrying around a masterwork zumm'ra. What is a zumm'ra and which book can I find it in?


Dragnmoon wrote:


All requiring a Move actions, which is the same for a backpack, so I don't see why this is better.

Actually, if something is stowed, i.e. in a container with multiple items that doesn't have separate compartments, it takes a standard action to retrieve.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Quixque wrote:
The iconic Pathfinder Savant, Akmanya, is carrying around a masterwork zumm'ra. What is a zumm'ra and which book can I find it in?

It's a Kelesh double clarinet (mentioned on p60), and so would be treated as any masterwork musical instrument.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Quixque wrote:
The iconic Pathfinder Savant, Akmanya, is carrying around a masterwork zumm'ra. What is a zumm'ra and which book can I find it in?
It's a Kelesh double clarinet (mentioned on p60), and so would be treated as any masterwork musical instrument.

Thank you very much. Seems I read it a little too fast.

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6, Contributor)

Thanks for the Wikipedia link there, Vic! I wanted something odd and archaic but still real-world for his instrument.


Destro and the Baroness practicing the clarinet!!

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Destro played the piano, and his House Guard (being a Laird and all) had a pagpipe player to rally to.

How do I remember this crap?


Hmm, I was referring to THIS. :)

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Russ Taylor wrote:
Thanks for the Wikipedia link there, Vic! I wanted something odd and archaic but still real-world for his instrument.

And you didn't go with this?

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Hmm, I was referring to THIS. :)

Pretty funny.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Hmm, I was referring to THIS. :)

You win this time Reynolds !

COBRA !


KnightErrantJR wrote:
Actually, if something is stowed, i.e. in a container with multiple items that doesn't have separate compartments, it takes a standard action to retrieve.

SRD says that retrieving a stored item is a move action.


Started to read the book yesterday. It's been excellent so far!

Wanted to point out that Torgra Stigardsdam, on pages 62-63, can't qualify for the Student of War prestige class. She dumped Dexterity (an 8!) and thus can't get Dodge, an entry requirement to the class. Anyway I found it a bit weird that a class that at second level allows a PC to substitute INT for DEX when calculating AC, would require a (relatively) high DEX to enter.

Of course, poor Torgra might have been unrestorably-DEX-drained after becoming a Student of War, in some disastrous incident that the Chronicles have yet to illuminate, cursed by a foul relic!

Yes, I AM a nerd, going after his Paizo No-Prize!

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32)

I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice this, but Venture-Captain Ambrus Valsin (pg 56) looks like the love child of Soap and Price, both from Modern Warfare. Just puttin' it out, is all.

Anyways, I like the sidebars with all of the various Venture-Captains, especially since I play Pathfinder Society, and my characters have met a few of them (Osprey's appearance surprised the hell out of me, and I'd love to see something done with Pharast). Weird, though: I always thought that Drang's first name was Drandle, not Declan. Does he have a brother or something?


Ya and the two Venture-Captains from Magnimar are listed different in Pathfinder 2 vs Seeker of Secrets, one appears as a monk then as a sorcerer but hey people change ;) all in all this is an amazing take on the old 18C British Adventurers Club with Everyone from The more Modern Indiana Jones, Professor Challenger and Dr. Livingston, to the old Sherlock Holmes, Allan Quartermaine and the like :) Grabe your Rogue/Bard and seek out the unknown with your more traditional Cleric, Mage, and Fighter types as backup instead of the other way around :)

Grand Lodge (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber)

I'm a bit confused as to how the cost for crafting a wayfinder was determined. Using the standard wayfinder as an example, light is a level-0 spell, continuous, and the CL it 5th (according to the description). Based on the Table: Estimating Magic Item Gold Piece Values, the formula is Spell level x caster level x 2000. Since it's level-0 spell, it's (1/2) x (5) x 2000 gp = 5000 gp price; not 500 gp. And I haven't even included the price for the bonus +2 to survival checks. Am I missing something here? The reason I ask is because I have a Pathfinder character that is looking to craft/modify his existing wayfinder, and I'm trying to get the prices for that right. Any input would be helpful! Thanks!


Step 1: estimate price by comparing it to other existing magic items.
Step 2: If there are no comparable magic items, fall back to using the formulas.

Grand Lodge (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber)

Thanks for the reply, Sean! I think we'll just estimate it!

Another quick clarification. This may just be a mix up, but there seems to be some consistency issues with the Pathfinder Society lodges in Katapesh. According to the Seeker of Secrets book, there are three Pathfinder Lodges within Katapeh: Kotargo Lodge (venture-captain Phlegos Dulm), Farseer Tower (venture-captain Wulessa Yuul), and Winding Road inn (venture-captain Roderus). However, if you look at the Dark Markets, A Guide to Katapesh book, there are two Pathfinder lodges described: there is one located in Twilight Gate (#36 on the Katapesh map), led by venture-captain Aurora Steelbloom; and another called Sueda Lodge, led by (venture-captain?) the "caretaker" Var Pinderven. So my question is, which one of these books is correct? Or are there simply a total of FIVE Pathfinder lodges scattered throughout Katapesh and surrounding environs?


I know that the main RPG books have FAQ sections added, but I'm wondering if any of the Campaign Setting books will have a FAQ section added. Particularly because I'm still hearing confusion over the Boon Companion feat and its wording.

I know the way its suppose to work has been clarified in this thread, but I'm just curious how the FAQ system is going to work for non-RPG (and obviously more rules oriented) books.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

KnightErrantJR wrote:
... I'm just curious how the FAQ system is going to work for non-RPG (and obviously more rules oriented) books.

It's still subject to change at this point. But it will be implemented for other products eventually.


Vic Wertz wrote:
KnightErrantJR wrote:
... I'm just curious how the FAQ system is going to work for non-RPG (and obviously more rules oriented) books.
It's still subject to change at this point. But it will be implemented for other products eventually.

Thanks Vic, I appreciate the response.

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Nube Negra wrote:


Wanted to point out that Torgra Stigardsdam, on pages 62-63, can't qualify for the Student of War prestige class. She dumped Dexterity (an 8!) and thus can't get Dodge, an entry requirement to the class. Anyway I found it a bit weird that a class that at second level allows a PC to substitute INT for DEX when calculating AC, would require a (relatively) high DEX to enter.

Has anyone answered this? I wanted to play a student of war, and just noticed how MAD it is.

Anyone worked out how to pick up dodge without crippling the fighter bit of the class?


Dragnmoon wrote:
miniaturepeddler wrote:
Segallion wrote:

Perhaps this belongs in a different forum, but the Adventurer's Sash is priced at 20 gp, 10x more expensive than a plain back pack. Perhaps I'm missing something but why would one use this instead of any other cheaper form of container? Does it grant something I'm not getting?

Appreciate any thoughts input in advance

Accessibility.

The 6 sleeves in the belt allow for fast access to various vials. Plus you want to drop weight quickly, it has a quick release, voila, less dead weight.
All requiring a Move actions, which is the same for a backpack, so I don't see why this is better.

I think it lets you draw stuff, while your moving thus no Aoo. otherwise retrieving stored item incures an AOO.


Nube Negra wrote:

Started to read the book yesterday. It's been excellent so far!

Wanted to point out that Torgra Stigardsdam, on pages 62-63, can't qualify for the Student of War prestige class. She dumped Dexterity (an 8!) and thus can't get Dodge, an entry requirement to the class. Anyway I found it a bit weird that a class that at second level allows a PC to substitute INT for DEX when calculating AC, would require a (relatively) high DEX to enter.

Of course, poor Torgra might have been unrestorably-DEX-drained after becoming a Student of War, in some disastrous incident that the Chronicles have yet to illuminate, cursed by a foul relic!

Yes, I AM a nerd, going after his Paizo No-Prize!

Also, Akmanya on page 61 has ray of enfeeblement prepared even though it isn't on his class spell list as a cleric of Desna 5; it isn't one of his Travel or Luck domain spells; and his two esoteric magic spells (as a Pathfinder savant 3) are detect secret doors and fireball. Do I get a No-Prize too?!


If I was wanting to include the implanting rules for ioun stones from this in a 3pp, would I need to include all the rules for doing so? Or, could I include "See Chapter 3 of Seekers of Secrets for more information on implanting ioun stones."?

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Black Fang wrote:
If I was wanting to include the implanting rules for ioun stones from this in a 3pp, would I need to include all the rules for doing so? Or, could I include "See Chapter 3 of Seekers of Secrets for more information on implanting ioun stones."?

It's clear in the OGL that you can't "indicate compatibility or co-adaptability with any Trademark," so referring to it by it's full title, "Pathfinder Chronicles: Seeker of Secrets" would be a bad idea, since we trademarked "Pathfinder Chronicles"... but we *didn't* trademark just "Seekers of Secrets", so my (non-lawyer) opinion is that if you used *only* that, that'd be in an OGL grey area.

However, if I were you, I'd go ahead and include the rules instead of the reference, if only because there's no guarantee that Seekers of Secrets (or any other book that you yourself don't control) will remain in print throughout the life of your product.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Black Fang wrote:
If I was wanting to include the implanting rules for ioun stones from this in a 3pp, would I need to include all the rules for doing so? Or, could I include "See Chapter 3 of Seekers of Secrets for more information on implanting ioun stones."?

It's clear in the OGL that you can't "indicate compatibility or co-adaptability with any Trademark," so referring to it by it's full title, "Pathfinder Chronicles: Seeker of Secrets" would be a bad idea, since we trademarked "Pathfinder Chronicles"... but we *didn't* trademark just "Seekers of Secrets", so my (non-lawyer) opinion is that if you used *only* that, that'd be in an OGL grey area.

However, if I were you, I'd go ahead and include the rules instead of the reference, if only because there's no guarantee that Seekers of Secrets (or any other book that you yourself don't control) will remain in print throughout the life of your product.

That's the answer I expected. Thanks for the help.


Great book!

Found an error on page 23. Under the Heading "Secrets of Seekers" in the second sentence it says .....many Pathfinders fine it best to keep their mouths shut,....
It should be find and not fine.

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