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Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Matthew Morris wrote:
JustintheBig wrote:
What is the best way to support this release? Should I pre order, buy it online after it comes out, buy it from my local gaming shop or get it from a con? Does it make any difference? I want to do my bit in making it the greatest release ever!!!!

[Sarc]buy a copy each place[/Sarc]

Seriously, buy it where ever, but if you have a FLGS, I'd say offer to run some demo games.

This is indeed the best answer to the question.

Andoran (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:

You might recall that PDFs become available for sale on the retail release date of the associated print product. So August 13 is the day for the PDF as well.

(Subscribers should be getting the PDFs shortly before that, when their subscriber copy ships.)

Do I get a pdf as well, when I preordered it? Really?

I mean...really???


I preordered the PF RPG a long time ago, and never regreted it. I am eagerly awaiting the final version of the game, and then will run Ptolus once more.

Andoran (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Benoist Poiré wrote:
I preordered the PF RPG a long time ago, and never regreted it. I am eagerly awaiting the final version of the game, and then will run Ptolus once more.

I've read the blog of your first campaign - awesome stuff and a great bunch of players you have there! If you go pbp let me please know!!!

I preordered it here in germany (4 times for my players) and one book I preordered here (for me). I so hope a pdf will come with it for free!

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Dryder wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:

You might recall that PDFs become available for sale on the retail release date of the associated print product. So August 13 is the day for the PDF as well.

(Subscribers should be getting the PDFs shortly before that, when their subscriber copy ships.)

Do I get a pdf as well, when I preordered it? Really?

I mean...really???

I meant that people with *Pathfinder Roleplaying Game* subscriptions will get the PDF for free when their copy ships. We'll be announcing the details of that subscription early next month.

Andoran (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Ah, thanx! I hope preordering it, and subscribing afterwards will not conflict somehow, and a pdf is still with the order...
PFRPG-Subscription...mmmmmhh :)

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Dryder wrote:

Ah, thanx! I hope preordering it, and subscribing afterwards will not conflict somehow, and a pdf is still with the order...

PFRPG-Subscription...mmmmmhh :)

No worries—if you preorder and then subscribe to the line, one of your preordered copies will be treated as your subscriber copy, with all appropriate benefits.

That is to say, if you preordered one copy, and then subscribe, we'll send you one copy (not two), and it will count as your subscriber copy. If you preordered five copies and then subscribe, we'll send you five copies, with one of them counting as your subscriber copy.

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 32)

Vic Wertz wrote:
We'll be announcing the details of that subscription early next month.

I'll wait for the subscription then - thanks Vic!

Osirion (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

So I'd really rather give my money directly to Paizo than Amazon, but the price discrepancy on the pre-order is huge. Is there any reason for this, other than Amazon is selling for very little profit here, trying to pull in volume sales?


On Amazon I'm seeing this for $31.49? and the Bestiary for $26.39?

http://www.amazon.com/Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Core-Rulebook/dp/16012515 05/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2LM5OG44LMZ0G&colid=3SPI6IYRR4QIJ

http://www.amazon.com/Pathfinder-Roleplaying-Game-Bestiary/dp/1601251831/re f=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I38XFSGW9973MK&colid=3SPI6IYRR4QIJ

Is there going to be a price snafu or are we seeing confused vendors?

Thanks!


The heck with Amazon - I'm going to my first GenCon specifically to pick this hefty tome in person!


Hmmm, on Amazon UK, the prices are around $5 out (£2-£3) from the current exchange rate conversions on the Paizo site....So RPG is a little bit cheaper, and bestiary is a little more expensive...

These would be dwarfed by the cost of shipping though.....

Chances are these won't come with a PDF though, so we have the choice, subscribe, get hit with huge shipping costs, but get a free PDF; Or buy the two books from Amazon, and buy the PDFs separately, if possible....I know the second approach wasn't feasible for the BETA (hell even buying just the PDF and having it printed/bound in the UK cost more than the softcover did to have shipped!)

Decisions, decisions....

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

Joshua Archer wrote:
So I'd really rather give my money directly to Paizo than Amazon, but the price discrepancy on the pre-order is huge. Is there any reason for this, other than Amazon is selling for very little profit here, trying to pull in volume sales?

This has been covered in more detail in other threads, but we sell our own products at the MSRP so we don't look like we're unfairly price gouging stores. Stores (including Amazon) purchase the books from the distributor for a reduced price, and despite the fact that there's an MSRP printed on the book, that's merely the manufacturer's suggested retail price; the stores are free to sell the books for whatever they want. They can even sell them for less than it cost them to get the books.

Amazon's got less overhead and more volume than most stores, so it can discount the books it sells a lot more than many other locations. It's not something that Paizo has any control over, in any event.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Battles Case Subscriber)

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Probably less than a week from now.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

They will be making an announcement at PaizoCon and then the rest of us poor, neglected, abused people who were not able to addend will EVENTUALLY find out the details.

~GRINS and runs~

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Probably less than a week from now.

Or what he said.

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Probably less than a week from now.

I am glad this is about ready. I have been waiting for months. Wish there was a game mastery subscription for maps and cards and such. I am always having to check the page looking for new maps, etc.

Can't wait...

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Are we there yet????


Shem wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Probably less than a week from now.

I am glad this is about ready. I have been waiting for months. Wish there was a game mastery subscription for maps and cards and such. I am always having to check the page looking for new maps, etc.

Can't wait...

Look for a map and card subscription to arrive sometime in June. At least that is what we are hoping to do. :)

-Lisa

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Lisa Stevens wrote:
Shem wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Probably less than a week from now.

I am glad this is about ready. I have been waiting for months. Wish there was a game mastery subscription for maps and cards and such. I am always having to check the page looking for new maps, etc.

Can't wait...

Look for a map and card subscription to arrive sometime in June. At least that is what we are hoping to do. :)

-Lisa

Thank you so much. I am there...

(Pathfinder Superscriber; GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

What are we looking at for the purchase price of just the PDFs?

I have a pre-order into Amazon for both the Core Rulebook, and the Bestiary, with the intent to buy the PDFs from Paizo down the road, but now I'm debating cancelling that pre-order for the subscription (which comes with the PDFs free, right?).

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Battles Case Subscriber)

Come on Lisa and Vic... I need to spend more money! :)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
In the early days of Paizo, we used to print suggested retail prices in other currencies, but some of our international distributors asked us to stop.

So there's no SRP for the UK? Can I only find out what this is going to cost over here by going to my ULGS when it's released and looking at the price sticker on it?

Andoran (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Damn, I am going on holidays from sunday to june 25th.
I hope the subscription option comes this week!


Callum wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
In the early days of Paizo, we used to print suggested retail prices in other currencies, but some of our international distributors asked us to stop.
So there's no SRP for the UK? Can I only find out what this is going to cost over here by going to my ULGS when it's released and looking at the price sticker on it?

Most things have an RRP (recommended retail price) which tends to be what Waterstones sells at.

Or just glance at Amazon...that will give you a good clue....


Out of curiosity: What's that "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook (OGL) Preview Edition" thing from the release schedule (http://paizo.com/paizo/about/schedule) - not that i'll buy it, 'cause I want the real thing ;-)

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Are we there yet???

(Paizo Superscriber)

Eagerly awaiting news of the new subscription, too.
*need ... more ... books ... in ... my ... library*

--
So, where did I put this blasted key?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, GameMastery Cards Subscriber)

This is perhaps a stupid question, but are there any plans to release a players guide, ideally with a price point hovering ~$20? I've already pre-ordered this (from Amazon) and will likely get the *.pdf when it comes out. My players, however, are poor and whiny college students who think nothing of dropping the money on frivolous items such as food, beer, and Xbox games but will make a right howling over the purchase of this fine tome. I think a players guide would be a fine way to bridge that gap, and if (gods help us all) they GM later, well, its always nice to have a spare copy of the rules. I'd personally purchase a players guide too, just to keep the core rulebook clutched tightly in my greedy claws.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

Land Phil wrote:
This is perhaps a stupid question, but are there any plans to release a players guide, ideally with a price point hovering ~$20? I've already pre-ordered this (from Amazon) and will likely get the *.pdf when it comes out. My players, however, are poor and whiny college students who think nothing of dropping the money on frivolous items such as food, beer, and Xbox games but will make a right howling over the purchase of this fine tome. I think a players guide would be a fine way to bridge that gap, and if (gods help us all) they GM later, well, its always nice to have a spare copy of the rules. I'd personally purchase a players guide too, just to keep the core rulebook clutched tightly in my greedy claws.

No plans yet. The game is huge; I'm pretty sure the only way we'd be able to do a $20 player's version of the game would be to cut 70% of everything, so we'd have like 3 races, 4 classes, half the skills, a quarter of the feats, and it would only probably detail things up to 3rd or 5th level. At which point it's not really a player's guide as much as it is a beginner's set, which is a different product. Probably a good idea for a product, in fact, but not one we've put on any schedules yet.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Probably less than a week from now.

Has it been a week yet? I feel like a month or two has passed since your post.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Probably less than a week from now.
Has it been a week yet? I feel like a month or two has passed since your post.

Almost, half-way, there!

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Sharoth wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Masika wrote:

Hi Vic,

My players and I are dead keen for this book. Just wondering when the new subscription policy is up.

Sorry for my impatience!

Probably less than a week from now.
Or what he said.

Or a week from *now*.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Callum wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
In the early days of Paizo, we used to print suggested retail prices in other currencies, but some of our international distributors asked us to stop.
So there's no SRP for the UK? Can I only find out what this is going to cost over here by going to my ULGS when it's released and looking at the price sticker on it?

You could go now and tell them it's going to be USD $49.99, and ask them how much they expect to sell it for....

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Beastman wrote:
Out of curiosity: What's that "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook (OGL) Preview Edition" thing from the release schedule (http://paizo.com/paizo/about/schedule) - not that i'll buy it, 'cause I want the real thing ;-)

That's a preview copy for licensees. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. These are not the droids you're looking for. Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you.


How are you?


Vic Wertz wrote:
Beastman wrote:
Out of curiosity: What's that "Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook (OGL) Preview Edition" thing from the release schedule (http://paizo.com/paizo/about/schedule) - not that i'll buy it, 'cause I want the real thing ;-)
That's a preview copy for licensees. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. These are not the droids you're looking for. Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you.

Set phasers on stun....

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

We're sending a squad up.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
We're sending a squad up.

Uh, uh, negative, negative. We have a reactor leak here now. Give us a few minutes to lock it down. Large leak... very dangerous.

(Pathfinder Superscriber; GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Still curious about individual-purchase PDF price...


Vic Wertz wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
We're sending a squad up.
Uh, uh, negative, negative. We have a reactor leak here now. Give us a few minutes to lock it down. Large leak... very dangerous.

Who is this? What's your operating number?

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

bugleyman wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
We're sending a squad up.
Uh, uh, negative, negative. We have a reactor leak here now. Give us a few minutes to lock it down. Large leak... very dangerous.
Who is this? What's your operating number?

[BLAM!]

Boring conversation anyway! Lisa! We're going to have company!

Oh.. wait. I mean, "We have a company."

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Brian E. Harris wrote:
Still curious about individual-purchase PDF price...

We are too!

I think the core rulebook PDF will probably be fairly inexpensive, but we haven't finalized that yet.


This thread had some of the best V.W. humor evah.

Qadira (Paizo Charter Superscriber)

Haha, reading this as I just finished watching Fanboys. Perfect. ;-)

(Pathfinder Charter Superscriber)

This may have been asked earlier but will there be any deals that will include a pdf copy with the physical?

Scrolls up... oh... apparently there's something in the works.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
Brian E. Harris wrote:
Still curious about individual-purchase PDF price...

We are too!

I think the core rulebook PDF will probably be fairly inexpensive, but we haven't finalized that yet.

$30 odd?

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Battles Case Subscriber)

My guess is 39.99

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Definitely looking forward to the Hardcover Book. Been playing the Beta with some friends for the past several months and have been enjoying it immensely - unlike our foray into 4E. 1 more month!

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