Will the PRPG be available through Borders? I normally don't shop there, but everybody and their brother gave me Borders gift cards this Christmas...
If yes, then yay!
If no, then...anyone want to buy some Borders gift cards?
Borders can order it through Diamond Book Distributors. Please encourage them to do so!
It will be available through Borders. It may not appear in the physical stores but they will be able to order it and the website will have it as well (gift cards work on the website as well as the physical stores). It doesnt appear on the website yet or on the in store terminals for preorder yet, but I can see it in our database (I work at a Borders).
Mairkurion {tm}(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)
Seems like I only see Paizo products at B&N here in the metroplex. I really wish Borders would jump on the Paizo bandwagon, as it is my preferred new bookstore.
Seems like I only see Paizo products at B&N here in the metroplex. I really wish Borders would jump on the Paizo bandwagon, as it is my preferred new bookstore.
Have you tried asking them to order stuff for you? They should be happy to do that...
Mairkurion {tm}(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)
Seems like I only see Paizo products at B&N here in the metroplex. I really wish Borders would jump on the Paizo bandwagon, as it is my preferred new bookstore.
Borders sees Roleplay stuff as extremely niche. Since so much of the inventory of individual stores is dependent on local buying trends, and in many locations RPGs are very slow sellers Borders tends to only lightly stock the areas. Right now my store is mostly 4e stuff and most of it is still stuff from the initial stocking (ie. our 4e PHBs are still ones we got on its release date) so its very rare to stock 3pp stuff, though there are at least one volume of each of the 3 APs on the shelf also (this is by no means a measure of 4e or Pathfinders success, it was the same with 3.5 and it is the same with WoD).
Borders can, and will order just about anything Pathfinder (I think some volumes of the first AP are out of print) if you ask them to. Doing so, especially if you and a handful of others all ask may even result in more of it appearing on the shelves.
We are working on a new "rules" subscription that will get you a free PDF, but we don't want to announce a new subscription until we've announced at least one more follow-up rules book, so that people know what they are subscribing to. We're still getting some printer quotes and what not for that book, so until that goes live, we can't make any formal promises about the subscription yet.
DragonBelow(Pathfinder Campaign Setting Charter Superscriber)
Erik Mona wrote:
We are working on a new "rules" subscription that will get you a free PDF, but we don't want to announce a new subscription until we've announced at least one more follow-up rules book, so that people know what they are subscribing to. We're still getting some printer quotes and what not for that book, so until that goes live, we can't make any formal promises about the subscription yet.
We are working on a new "rules" subscription that will get you a free PDF, but we don't want to announce a new subscription until we've announced at least one more follow-up rules book, so that people know what they are subscribing to. We're still getting some printer quotes and what not for that book, so until that goes live, we can't make any formal promises about the subscription yet.
Thanks. that's great! Can you at least tell us if this announcement would come before the RPG Book comes out this summer? I am assuming the answer is yes, otherwise many of us would have already purchased our books by the time the subscription is announced, which would mean no free PDF for us, right?
Can we assume that, at the very least, the RPG and the Beastiary would fall under this new rules subscription?
Thanks again!
Wildfire142(Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Cards Subscriber)
If I can't afford it I'll have to drop one of my other subscriptions instead. I'm really looking forward to the Pathfinder RPG, and the PDFs will be very handy.
I already preordered. Since they said that wouldn't effect what ever they end up doing. That way I know I won't somehow miss a way to get the subscription for it.
We are working on a new "rules" subscription that will get you a free PDF, but we don't want to announce a new subscription until we've announced at least one more follow-up rules book, so that people know what they are subscribing to. We're still getting some printer quotes and what not for that book, so until that goes live, we can't make any formal promises about the subscription yet.
Thanks. that's great! Can you at least tell us if this announcement would come before the RPG Book comes out this summer? I am assuming the answer is yes, otherwise many of us would have already purchased our books by the time the subscription is announced, which would mean no free PDF for us, right?
Can we assume that, at the very least, the RPG and the Beastiary would fall under this new rules subscription?
Thanks again!
It should be available in a matter of weeks.
Dryder(Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)
I would prefer to have a pdf as well, but with the current shipping costs of those two books, its to expensive for me to order it at Paizo.
A subscription might change that, so...crossing fingers...
My group has been running all campaigns with the Pathfinder:Beta since I got the book. (Since then another copy was hunted down and the PDF printed out at Kinkos...)
My question is, will the Beta book basically function as an extra copy? (At least for players leveling characters, looking up equipment, or feats... that sort of thing.) Or will I need to overlook what someone is doing and give them the whole; "Well, that got changed so you need to grab the other book."
My group has been running all campaigns with the Pathfinder:Beta since I got the book. (Since then another copy was hunted down and the PDF printed out at Kinkos...)
My question is, will the Beta book basically function as an extra copy? (At least for players leveling characters, looking up equipment, or feats... that sort of thing.) Or will I need to overlook what someone is doing and give them the whole; "Well, that got changed so you need to grab the other book."
A lot of stuff will be the same, but a lot of stuff will be different too. It's difficult to answer your question without knowing what, for example, your players are going to want to look up.
I suspect everyone will want a new copy of the rules, if only to have all of the corrections (not to mention all of the spells and prestige classes) in one place.
I downloaded and printed the Alpha version of Pathfinder and after reading it (and being wowed by it), tentatively introduced it to my group (who are resolutely entrenched in their universal determination not to switch to 4.0). They took to it instantly and now every member has their own copy of the softcover of the Beta playtest rules. Unquestionably the most exciting rules since my older brother bought the old blue cover rules in about 1976. Thanks Paizo and I can't wait until August.
Will the pdf of this product be available straight away? Or will it take as long as a standard PF AP to get uploaded?
Hopefully the former, I'm from Ireland, and while I'm ordering both book and pdf, I don't want to have to wait two weeks for both versions! Especially while many on the boards will have the rules already, it'll be like being Tantalus in the Tartarus of the wait for the rules.
A 560 page book that includes the Players and Game Masters rules sets together? Holy ****! I am simply amazed that Paizo is making the Core Rules book like this. The people at Paizo are Gods of generosity. I am new to the Paizo Pathfinder RPG system. I read the Beta version and the FAQ on how the rules for 3.5 have changed. It has me super excited. August cannot get hear fast enough!
For some reason this isn't showing up in Bowker's BooksInPrint catalogue.... it needs to be in there for me to get it ordered at my library... :) Well, technically it doesn't have to be but it makes life so much easier for our acquisitions department.
Mairkurion {tm}(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)
axia777 wrote:
The people at Paizo are Gods of generosity. I am new to the Paizo Pathfinder RPG system.
If we were going to stat them out, then creativity would also be a big part of their portfolio...
For some reason this isn't showing up in Bowker's BooksInPrint catalogue.... it needs to be in there for me to get it ordered at my library... :) Well, technically it doesn't have to be but it makes life so much easier for our acquisitions department.
A fellow librarian... your acquisitions department might use Amazon, for example, for reference.
BTW, didn't they tell you that all librarians are expected to join the Cheliax revolution? And we *do* have the best parties... ;)
For some reason this isn't showing up in Bowker's BooksInPrint catalogue.... it needs to be in there for me to get it ordered at my library... :) Well, technically it doesn't have to be but it makes life so much easier for our acquisitions department.
Asgetrion wrote:
A fellow librarian... your acquisitions department might use Amazon, for example, for reference.
BTW, didn't they tell you that all librarians are expected to join the Cheliax revolution? And we *do* have the best parties... ;)
They can source it from just the ISBN, of course, but they like to collect things into several lists (there are a dozen or so selectors) that they can then just import to the order system. Makes it nice and tidy. I actually thought the Bestiary was coming out after the core rules, but if it's coming out before that might explain why it's in there but the core rules aren't - it may just be too soon to expect to see the Core Rulebook on GBIP. Either way, I hope that they give the same discount to libraries as they give to Amazon!
Librarians... not known for their partying, but perhaps the foul outsiders have corrupted you. Sifting through an endless sea of sand for a grain of knowledge, however... :)
As it turns out she was just as happy to order it from Chapters (the Canadian version of Barnes & Noble) - she's never sure what the discount might be from Diamond (and we don't generally order from that distribution agent, I guess - any comics/graphic novels/whatever that we buy I think come from a local comic shop). The Chapters discount was the same as the Amazon discount (37%).
In any case, I'm now the proud future owner of the Bestiary and the Core Rulebook (once they are released...) and I need to talk to the selector who looks after that section (he usually gets the D&D books that come out - I need to impress upon him how swell Pathfinder will be).
Andrew Turner(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)
A subscription option to the Core Rules Books at 37% off the cover price...and free shipping...and a free PDF...OK, I'm pushing it, aren't I...
For some reason this isn't showing up in Bowker's BooksInPrint catalogue.... it needs to be in there for me to get it ordered at my library... :) Well, technically it doesn't have to be but it makes life so much easier for our acquisitions department.
Asgetrion wrote:
A fellow librarian... your acquisitions department might use Amazon, for example, for reference.
BTW, didn't they tell you that all librarians are expected to join the Cheliax revolution? And we *do* have the best parties... ;)
They can source it from just the ISBN, of course, but they like to collect things into several lists (there are a dozen or so selectors) that they can then just import to the order system. Makes it nice and tidy. I actually thought the Bestiary was coming out after the core rules, but if it's coming out before that might explain why it's in there but the core rules aren't - it may just be too soon to expect to see the Core Rulebook on GBIP. Either way, I hope that they give the same discount to libraries as they give to Amazon!
Librarians... not known for their partying, but perhaps the foul outsiders have corrupted you. Sifting through an endless sea of sand for a grain of knowledge, however... :)
Sounds familiar... the acquisitions department in my library wants to have as much information as only possible for each title before ordering it, even though in this case the publisher and ISBN are enough (as we're talking about first edition). :)
Hey, not only do we have the best parties -- we also have the finest libraries on all Golarion here in Cheliax... all that infer...er, vast lore at our disposal! Why don't you get rid of that horrible goldbug next to your name, and step into the warm, loving embrace of succub... er, I mean, step into our temples of Asmod... no, I meant to say that step into our temples of *knowledge* filled with shelves after shelves of ancient tomes! ;)
I know it's most likely too late for this question, but: is there any chance you can regulate the pricing of the hardcover in EU countries? Fact is, most local game stores here simply stick a Euro sign before the dollar price. Seeing that ordering it direct from you to Germany is no option (shipping is waaay too hig, I'd be stuck with paying 49 Euros for a product worth 49 dollars. I find that intolerable. Sorry for the whining, but I do get pissed when retailers press hard earned cash out of poor gamers, and in this case it'd be a serious deterrent from the actual purchase (€49 = $64).
So I've cooked up this post where I dream that the back cover will indicate a fixed Pound (and Euro) price. Harkening back to the good ol' TSR days and all that...
Books of lore collected while in the loving embrace of hell will catch fire easily and burn like a huge pyre of human ignorance.
Heed the words of a fellow librarian!
Ah, but all of our tomes are bound of dem... er, made fire-resistant. ;)
If you ever happen to visit Westcrown here in Cheliax, I would be glad to give you a tour of our magnificent libraries! I'll just need your signature on a scroll that acts as a permit... but we can discuss that later.
Hi everybody!
First of all I'm sorry if this thing was mentioned and I repeat question. Well me and my friends are impressed with Pathfinder so, we decided to buy hardcover books, when game will be finally released. My question is: how many books can be packed in one box? I'd like to know if have to order one package or two.
Best regards
Martin
First of all I'm sorry if this thing was mentioned and I repeat question. Well me and my friends are impressed with Pathfinder so, we decided to buy hardcover books, when game will be finally released. My question is: how many books can be packed in one box? I'd like to know if have to order one package or two.
Best regards
Martin
I've heard rumors that, for a modest fee, the fine folks at Paizo can box your order in a special wooden container, carved from a tree bathed in the blood of 10,000 demons, and lovingly wrapped in the skin of a sacrificed sentient being (entrapped soul not included).
I know it's most likely too late for this question, but: is there any chance you can regulate the pricing of the hardcover in EU countries? Fact is, most local game stores here simply stick a Euro sign before the dollar price. Seeing that ordering it direct from you to Germany is no option (shipping is waaay too hig, I'd be stuck with paying 49 Euros for a product worth 49 dollars. I find that intolerable. Sorry for the whining, but I do get pissed when retailers press hard earned cash out of poor gamers, and in this case it'd be a serious deterrent from the actual purchase (€49 = $64).
So I've cooked up this post where I dream that the back cover will indicate a fixed Pound (and Euro) price. Harkening back to the good ol' TSR days and all that...
In the early days of Paizo, we used to print suggested retail prices in other currencies, but some of our international distributors asked us to stop. They pay us based on the retail price in dollars, but retailers pay them based on the selling price in the local currency, so if the exchange rate changed significantly since we printed the book, they'd have problems.
Besides, retail pricing based purely on exchange rate doesn't count for the fact that, due to the unavoidable high cost of overseas shipping, it costs a lot more for them to get the product than it does for a US distributor—that's really where a lot of that markup is going.
First of all I'm sorry if this thing was mentioned and I repeat question. Well me and my friends are impressed with Pathfinder so, we decided to buy hardcover books, when game will be finally released. My question is: how many books can be packed in one box? I'd like to know if have to order one package or two.
Best regards
Martin
It depends on your shipping method and destination. Put it into your shopping cart, and go through checkout until you've set a shipping address, and then play around with quantities and see how it affects the shipping charges.
sanwah68(Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)
If you have pre-ordered the book will it be sent out early so you get it close to the due date (especially for international orders), or will it be not sent out til the actual release date.
In the early days of Paizo, we used to print suggested retail prices in other currencies, but some of our international distributors asked us to stop. They pay us based on the retail price in dollars, but retailers pay them based on the selling price in the local currency, so if the exchange rate changed significantly since we printed the book, they'd have problems.
Besides, retail pricing based purely on exchange rate doesn't count for the fact that, due to the unavoidable high cost of overseas shipping, it costs a lot more for them to get the product than it does for a US distributor—that's really where a lot of that markup is going.
Thanks for the explanation, Vic. As you say, that's "where a lot of that markup is going", but it ain't the entirety thereof.
So, while I have some sympathy for our local retailers, I'm going to boycot them on this one and order from Amazon US direct. Ordering PF RPG to Europe costs $39 per book *including postage*, and the retailers can seek to get their extra $25 profit PER BOOK from elsewhere.
Franz Lunzer(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, GameMastery Cards Subscriber)
Assuming there will be a subscription to get the rulebooks + free PDFs thereof I'm going to stick to ordering here.
If that option will not happen I am likely to do the same (ordering it from amazon.com).