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Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Navdi wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
In most cases, though, the cheapest international shipping method is a Priority flat-rate box, which means you can probably add in a few more books without increasing the shipping rate.
In case I decide on this method of purchase, how much exactly is a few more books. Say I decide to order multiple copies of the Pathfinder RPG. How many can I order without increasing the shipping cost?

There's no flat answer to that—it's based on the dimensions of the books and the location you're shipping to. All I can say is experiment!


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Montalve, every time you say that, somewhere, somebody drowns a puppy.

not my fault... such is life

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

Heh-heh...You're a hard guy.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Ah can't you just feel the love in this thread? Though I don't understand the urge of people to come post in the thread to say how they are going 4th edition. I mean really do we have to keep up this silly childish edition war nearly a year after it started?

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Actually, the war is pretty much over.

Gamers won. :)


Dark_Mistress wrote:
I don't understand the urge of people to come post in the thread to say how they are going 4th edition.

LET THEM COME!

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

It's a amazing what you can learn if you just look at a person's posting history. They might as well fill out a profile
RACE: Troll
If we checked their profile before we posted as if they were somebody just wandering in off the street, we'd not only save our own time, but we'd rob them of whatever sick jollies they get from getting responses. In real life, they must get ignored a lot, I guess. Sometimes, just assuming the best about a poster or reacting before checking are not the best things to do.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Heh-heh...You're a hard guy.

je

not to much this days :P since we got a dog it hurts me to look at dying or sick dogs...

still such is life... but if i see them drowning the puppies i will get medieval on them :D

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

I hear you. I can't stand to see suffering animals. Just ask abandoned kitty. It's how she found a new place to live.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

When will the official cover for this go up on the website, out of interest?


Vic Wertz wrote:
However, even in those other countries, once you add a couple of things to the box, you *will* be in a Flat-Rate box, and then you can just keep on adding stuff with no additional shipping charge until you exceed the size of the box. So, while it currently costs $44.03 to ship one copy to the UK, it only costs $45.05 to ship two copies, or even three!

Sweet. Now the only questions remaining are: How big is the box and how many copies will I be able fit in it without the total price going over the Finnish VAT for books meaning I'd have to pay customs for the darn thing. My guess is somewhere in the region of 3-4 Pathfinder RPG books. I know for a fact that the Finnish Pathfinder enthusiasts will buy a total of around of dozen of these so... ;)


James Sutter wrote:
Asgetrion wrote:
does Vic really look like Abadar in real life?
Vic Wertz wrote:
Yes, I do.
The weird thing is, he's not kidding. Every time I open up Gods and Magic to the Abadar spread my brain goes: "Wha...? Vic?"

All Hail Lord Vi- Abadar!

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

vagrant-poet wrote:
When will the official cover for this go up on the website, out of interest?

We don't have a particular date planned. So "shortly after it's done" is the best available answer.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Navdi wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
However, even in those other countries, once you add a couple of things to the box, you *will* be in a Flat-Rate box, and then you can just keep on adding stuff with no additional shipping charge until you exceed the size of the box. So, while it currently costs $44.03 to ship one copy to the UK, it only costs $45.05 to ship two copies, or even three!
Sweet. Now the only questions remaining are: How big is the box and how many copies will I be able fit in it without the total price going over the Finnish VAT for books meaning I'd have to pay customs for the darn thing. My guess is somewhere in the region of 3-4 Pathfinder RPG books. I know for a fact that the Finnish Pathfinder enthusiasts will buy a total of around of dozen of these so... ;)

Looks like the answer is 3, because the price goes up when you try 4.

Grand Lodge (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

If I buy this and it becomes part of a subscription, will there be some kind of pro-rate situation? As much as I like you folks, I don't think I need that many copies of the RPC and Monster book. I will want to have a subscription for the books if and when it becomes available.

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Herald wrote:
If I buy this and it becomes part of a subscription, will there be some kind of pro-rate situation? As much as I like you folks, I don't think I need that many copies of the RPC and Monster book. I will want to have a subscription for the books if and when it becomes available.

While we don't have details on subs, I can tell you that we won't penalize you for ordering early, and if you order one and then sign up for a sub, we'll just send you one.

Grand Lodge (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Cool, preorder is done on the both the Moster book and the RPG book.


Two questions (and I apologize if either have been covered already - I looked but didn't see these answered ...)

1. Preorder: if I preorder this now, will my card be charged in ANY way? Will the funds in any way be put on a hold or anything like that?

2. Benefit of Preordering: If I preorder now, is there any added benefit to me? I realize it will lock in the price (on the off chance it will be higher once the book actually ships) and it guarantees that I will get a copy if they sell out quickly. Beyond these two (admittedly valid) things, is there any incentive to preorder? A free PDF or something maybe?

Thanks!!!!

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Marc Radle 81 wrote:

Two questions (and I apologize if either have been covered already - I looked but didn't see these answered ...)

1. Preorder: if I preorder this now, will my card be charged in ANY way? Will the funds in any way be put on a hold or anything like that?

2. Benefit of Preordering: If I preorder now, is there any added benefit to me? I realize it will lock in the price (on the off chance it will be higher once the book actually ships) and it guarantees that I will get a copy if they sell out quickly. Beyond these two (admittedly valid) things, is there any incentive to preorder? A free PDF or something maybe?

Thanks!!!!

1. We never charge for preorders until the order ships. However, we do acquire an authorization for the total, which isn't a monetary transaction, but it does reduce your available credit on that card until the authorization expires. Your bank determines how long it takes to expire, and we have no insight or control over the duration, but I think it's a day or two for most banks.

2. In addition to the price, it also locks in the shipping cost (so long as you don't have us make future modifications to the order that would potentially change the shipping cost, like adding other products, or changing the shipping address); note that the USPS is going to increase some of their rates in May, so this may actually be meaningful in some circumstances. Other than that, we haven't announced any other incentives for preordering... but if we do, they'll apply to *all* preorders retroactively.

In short, while there may or may not be good enough reasons for you to preorder, there really isn't a lot of reason *not* to.

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

I am planning on pre-ordering 3 copies (the break-point for overseas orders), however, if a subscription comes along, how does that effect the postage??

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, GameMastery Cards Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
In short, while there may or may not be good enough reasons for you to preorder, there really isn't a lot of reason *not* to.

OK, I preordered two of each, just to be safe

Andoran (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
note that the USPS is going to increase some of their rates in May, so this may actually be meaningful in some circumstances. .

What the hell?.... Didn't they just increase their shipping rates?..

Vic you have any insight in this?... Is it a significant hike or just a minor one?

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

sanwah68 wrote:
I am planning on pre-ordering 3 copies (the break-point for overseas orders), however, if a subscription comes along, how does that effect the postage??

It won't—we'll just count one of the three as fulfilled against your subscription.

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Dragnmoon wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
note that the USPS is going to increase some of their rates in May, so this may actually be meaningful in some circumstances. .

What the hell?.... Didn't they just increase their shipping rates?..

Vic you have any insight in this?... Is it a significant hike or just a minor one?

This year, they started to split up their annual rate change into "shipping services" (which increased in January) and "mailing services" (which will increase in May). "Shipping services" include Priority Mail and Express Mail, while "mailing services" includes First-Class, Standard Mail, Periodicals, Package Services (including Parcel Post) and "extra services," such as Certified Mail and insurance.

The May increase will take standard First Class stamps from $.42 to $.44; they claim that the "average increase by class of mail is at or below the rate of inflation as measured by the Consumer Price Index."

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Vic Wertz wrote:
Dragnmoon wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
note that the USPS is going to increase some of their rates in May, so this may actually be meaningful in some circumstances. .

What the hell?.... Didn't they just increase their shipping rates?..

Vic you have any insight in this?... Is it a significant hike or just a minor one?

This year, they started to split up their annual rate change into "shipping services" (which increased in January) and "mailing services" (which will increase in May). "Shipping services" include Priority Mail and Express Mail, while "mailing services" includes First-Class, Standard Mail, Periodicals, Package Services (including Parcel Post) and "extra services," such as Certified Mail and insurance.

The May increase will take standard First Class stamps from $.42 to $.44; they claim that the "average increase by class of mail is at or below the rate of inflation as measured by the Consumer Price Index."

Accursed recession. Luckily I might be able to save enough money on rent next year to keep me in paizo.

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
sanwah68 wrote:
I am planning on pre-ordering 3 copies (the break-point for overseas orders), however, if a subscription comes along, how does that effect the postage??
It won't—we'll just count one of the three as fulfilled against your subscription.

OK, the plan just became a reality....3 copies pre-ordered. I feel absurdly excited....


I may get my copies at GenCon Indy 2009. Should I cancel my pre orders then?

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Russell Akred wrote:
I may get my copies at GenCon Indy 2009. Should I cancel my pre orders then?

Well... last year, we *almost* implemented a convention-pick-up plan for Beta preorders, but we didn't have time. No telling whether it'll happen this year yet....


Vic Wertz wrote:
Russell Akred wrote:
I may get my copies at GenCon Indy 2009. Should I cancel my pre orders then?
Well... last year, we *almost* implemented a convention-pick-up plan for Beta preorders, but we didn't have time. No telling whether it'll happen this year yet....

That would be great! I would go for it and it would save you postage. Where should I picket for convention-pick-up?

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Russell Akred wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Russell Akred wrote:
I may get my copies at GenCon Indy 2009. Should I cancel my pre orders then?
Well... last year, we *almost* implemented a convention-pick-up plan for Beta preorders, but we didn't have time. No telling whether it'll happen this year yet....
That would be great! I would go for it and it would save you postage. Where should I picket for convention-pick-up?

You pay for shipping, so it would save *you* postage. However, it would cost you Indianapolis sales tax. Still probably a savings overall, though.

As for whether it happens or not, it's all a matter of how much other stuff we need to do before the show.

Andoran (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path Subscriber)

If this question has been asked before then please accept my apology!
As a far as character creation, will "starting packages" be included with each of the core classes like in the Player's Handbook of the "World's Most Popular Role-playing Game"?


I just looked over the whole book.. W00t. I love it. It really flushes out many of the character classes by adding unique abilities, without making them redundant and static as seen in 4E. I'm so glad that somewhere 3.5E is still alive and well and that it is being handled with such love and talent! Thank you guys so much for all your hard work! I will def get this book!


Vic Wertz wrote:


You pay for shipping, so it would save *you* postage. However, it would cost you Indianapolis sales tax. Still probably a savings overall, though.

As for whether it happens or not, it's all a matter of how much other stuff we need to do before the show.

Indy sales tax is 7%, for those interested in this method.


I just downloaded the beta a few days ago and I absolutely love it. Many of the changes mirror some of the house rules that I already have going on in my current 3.5e game, obviously an example of great minds thinking alike... I am particularly excited by the differing sources of power that a sorcerer can choose from, it makes me want to start playing again instead of just DMing! Methinks I will preorder a copy of the core rulebook as soon as I get done posting this!

Andoran (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Modules Subscriber)

It would be really cool if we could have our pre-orders available for a GenCon pick up.

I totally understand that this is easier said then done.

Andoran (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path Subscriber)

When pre-ordering, are we charged money right away or will the money be taken out upon arrival of the book?

Andoran (Pathfinder Superscriber)

Kevida wrote:
When pre-ordering, are we charged money right away or will the money be taken out upon arrival of the book?

There's a verification check which can hold money on the account for a couple of days depending on the bank, but no money is taken off your card until the book ships.

Andoran (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Question: Will the Hardbound Core Rulebook come w. a .pdf or otherwise will there be an option to buy the .pdf along with the hardbound at a seriously discounted price? (The same inquiry applies for September's Bestiary as well.)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, GameMastery Cards Subscriber)

There is talk about a Subscripton-option for the Rulebooks. You probably get a free pdf with a subscription.

Andoran (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Franz Lunzer wrote:
There is talk about a Subscripton-option for the Rulebooks. You probably get a free pdf with a subscription.

Do you have a link for this?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Saurstalk wrote:
Franz Lunzer wrote:
There is talk about a Subscripton-option for the Rulebooks. You probably get a free pdf with a subscription.
Do you have a link for this?

Vic talks a bit about it in this thread.

Vic Wertz wrote:
We'll be announcing additional Pathfinder RPG products, a subscription option, and details of how one can acquire free PDFs in the coming weeks.

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Hurray....


Will the PRPG be available through Borders? I normally don't shop there, but everybody and their brother gave me Borders gift cards this Christmas...

If yes, then yay!
If no, then...anyone want to buy some Borders gift cards?

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Will there be a PDF of this too?

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chopswil wrote:
Will there be a PDF of this too?

Absolutely

Andoran (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
sanwah68 wrote:
I am planning on pre-ordering 3 copies (the break-point for overseas orders), however, if a subscription comes along, how does that effect the postage??
It won't—we'll just count one of the three as fulfilled against your subscription.

Just that I get this right - the PFRPG is NOT PART of any subscription, isn't it?!

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Dryder wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
sanwah68 wrote:
I am planning on pre-ordering 3 copies (the break-point for overseas orders), however, if a subscription comes along, how does that effect the postage??
It won't—we'll just count one of the three as fulfilled against your subscription.
Just that I get this right - the PFRPG is NOT PART of any subscription, isn't it?!

Not as of yet.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Franz Lunzer wrote:
chopswil wrote:
Will there be a PDF of this too?

Absolutely

how about a buy the physical book and get a free PDF option?

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chopswil wrote:
Franz Lunzer wrote:
chopswil wrote:
Will there be a PDF of this too?

Absolutely

how about a buy the physical book and get a free PDF option?

How they're going to handle this hasn't been announced yet (look seven posts up from your post).


chopswil wrote:
how about a buy the physical book and get a free PDF option?

Probably, but no official announcement as to how one would get this has been announced yet. My guess is that a new subscription will be set up, or that any AP subscriber who buys a book through Paizo will get a pdf along with it.

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