Just a quick question - I'm probably missing the really obvious, but I'm a bit confused by Table 12-2 (p 398). I get the "Total XP" column: you check the CR of your encounter to figure out your XP budget, which you then fill up with (for example), critters.

But what do the other three columns represent? They are under the "Individual XP" heading, and are labelled "1-3", "4-5" and "6+". I've searched thru the text and I can't find it referenced anywhere.

I'd really appreciate someone giving me a heads-up! (And I know I'm going to feel like a right goose! :) )

Cheers,

Phil

Just a quick question - I'm probably missing the really obvious, but I'm a bit confused by Table 12-2 (p 398). I get the "Total XP" column: you check the CR of your encounter to figure out your XP budget, which you then fill up with (for example), critters.

But what do the other three columns represent? They are under the "Individual XP" heading, and are labelled "1-3", "4-5" and "6+". I've searched thru the text and I can't find it referenced anywhere.

I'd really appreciate someone giving me a heads-up! (And I know I'm going to feel like a right goose! :) )

Cheers,

Phil

That's a quick reference for the amount of XP each party member receives, and the 1-3, 4-5, and 6+ is the party size.

How long of a backorder are we looking at?

How long of a backorder are we looking at?

Probably till the second print run is out which should be in November from what I've seen in other posts.

There is a store up here in Alaska that has three.

If you like I could purchase it for you and send it off. USPS Priority Mail Flat rate is $13.95....

Then of course the price of the book.

PAYPAL would work as well so we would both be covered....

Sean

How long of a backorder are we looking at?

I am surprised that we are out. On Monday, I will have the warehouse guys do a check on our stock levels and make sure the correct amounts are in the system. Otherwise, it will be about two weeks before we are back in stock.

-Lisa

There is a store up here in Alaska that has three.

If you like I could purchase it for you and send it off. USPS Priority Mail Flat rate is $13.95....

Then of course the price of the book.

PAYPAL would work as well so we would both be covered....

Sean

Thanks Sean I was able to order a new copy on ebay with a store in Kentucky that I have done business with before. I really appreciate the offer though.

I'm not sure this is the right forum, but:

Has anyone else noticed that the Prying Eyes (and Prying Eyes, Greater) spells are out of alphabetical order in the Rulebook?

Hi all,

I apologise if I'm posting this in the wrong spot, but I just had to say that I finally received my copy of the Pathfinder corebook today and I love it! I had ordered it some two months ago from Amazon(trying to be cheap and save money) simultaneously with the Bestiary... well, I got the Bestiary a couple days ago, but just finally got sick of waiting for Amazon to get the corebook back in stock that I cancelled the order with them and ordered direct from Paizo instead. Very satisified with Paizo-service by the way... I requested the 2-5 day USPS service... great packaging job.

What can I say that hasnt already been said? What a fantastic, beautiful book. I began my roleplaying career way back with the Red Boxed Basic D&D set... man, how that set fired up my imagination... still have it, too. I've had several other favourites over the years... Shadowrun, Call of Cthulhu, World of Darkness, a few others... and I've come across a few stinkers (World of Synnibar, anyone? Battlelords of the 23rd century?).

I was pretty excited when I heard about 4e coming out and like many others I ordered the PHB/DMG/MM gift set... but try as I might(and I really did try), I just couldnt get into it. It just wasnt the same, you know? Now, I'm not a "4e hater" or anything like that... part of me does kind of like the game(more because I *want* to like it for old time's sake than anything else, probably), and I think the new edition ultimately is doing what it was designed to do... namely, keep this beloved hobby of ours alive and attracting a new generation of gamers. I work at a college and I've seen some kids there with their 4e books being all young and geeky. Brings back fond memories.

But I think I was meant to be a Pathfinder. I can't wait to start getting my hands on some of that Golarion stuff... I usually make up my own worlds for my game, but it all sounds so cool.

And if it hasn't been said yet, let me say Wayne Reynolds is a *magnificent* artist! Don't ever let this guy get away! I'm a very visually oriented person and a book with crappy or even just bland, uninspired artwork will turn me off faster than anything else. Same goes for the Bestiary. There were a few illustrations that I felt were somewhat bland (the unicorn, the couatl, for example), but overall most of the artwork was really, really great. Like the cheetah and the tiger... and the genies... and the lillend azata, mraowr! and the aboleth! One question though, what's with the change in appearance of the troll? Surely it's not a "WotC property issue" kind of thing since wasnt the longtime D&D version of the troll taken from some novel or another? Just curious, it's still a pretty frightening beast of a monster. Wouldnt catch me wandering around in troll country, that's for damn sure.

Anyway, thanks for letting me add my voice to the Paizo army and thanks to all the Paizo gods and goddesses for renewing my love for my favourite game. Now if I could only find some players out here!

That warms my heart.

For Monks, what's the point of using Monk weapons? The unarmed attacks will yield more damage in the end, otherwise they are equal with the weapons. Shouldn't the monk get some bonus dmg when using monk weapons?

For Monks, what's the point of using Monk weapons? The unarmed attacks will yield more damage in the end, otherwise they are equal with the weapons. Shouldn't the monk get some bonus dmg when using monk weapons?

The biggest thing is special materials for DR I believe

darknerd wrote:

For Monks, what's the point of using Monk weapons? The unarmed attacks will yield more damage in the end, otherwise they are equal with the weapons. Shouldn't the monk get some bonus dmg when using monk weapons?

The biggest thing is special materials for DR I believe

Also slashing and piercing types to overcome certain DRs.

Is there an erratta on the description of Extra Channel, as it is the only "extra" that cannot be taken more than once, if I read it right .

[b] Special:[b] If a paladin with the ability to channel positive energy takes this feat, she can use lay on hands four additional times a day, but only to channel positive energy .

It does not say: You can gain Extra Channel multiple times. Its effectas stack.

Are we dissing the Cleric a second time ; first low skill points and now with Channel?

Folks, please keep in mind we've got a Rules Questions forum—you're more likely to find answers to such questions there.

Has Anyone else noticed there are no random item tables for spell items, i.e. wands and scrolls?

I ran a basic game last week for the first time and i noticed in the treasure section, it only has tables to determine spell level of a randomly found scroll or wand, not the spell itself.

Personaly i find that inconvieniet. Has anyone created a random table for scrolls and wands?

When is the next printing of the book going to be?

When is the next printing of the book going to be?

The second printing is already in our warehouse, and has shipped to our distributors. Since it's a reprint and not a new product, there's no set street date for it, but I'd expect it to be showing up at retail any day now.

concerro wrote:

When is the next printing of the book going to be?

The second printing is already in our warehouse, and has shipped to our distributors. Since it's a reprint and not a new product, there's no set street date for it, but I'd expect it to be showing up at retail any day now.

I know. I was asking about the third printing. Sorry I was not clear.

Vic Wertz wrote:

concerro wrote:

When is the next printing of the book going to be?

The second printing is already in our warehouse, and has shipped to our distributors. Since it's a reprint and not a new product, there's no set street date for it, but I'd expect it to be showing up at retail any day now.

I know. I was asking about the third printing. Sorry I was not clear.

Yea I saw that as well that there was a third printing run already. THink it was on the BLOG but not sure which one. Possibly the one about Monte writing a Module.

Sean

Hey, a printed image of the PFRPG with a small blurb extolling its greatness appeared in the 200th issue of game informer (page 37). Kudos to the team!

concerro wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

concerro wrote:

When is the next printing of the book going to be?

The second printing is already in our warehouse, and has shipped to our distributors. Since it's a reprint and not a new product, there's no set street date for it, but I'd expect it to be showing up at retail any day now.

I know. I was asking about the third printing. Sorry I was not clear.

Yea I saw that as well that there was a third printing run already. THink it was on the BLOG but not sure which one. Possibly the one about Monte writing a Module.

Sean

We've already sold most of the second print run, but we have not yet pulled the trigger on a third yet. We'll be looking at distributor reorders over the next couple of weeks to help us figure out the appropriate time.

thenorthman wrote:

concerro wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

concerro wrote:

When is the next printing of the book going to be?

The second printing is already in our warehouse, and has shipped to our distributors. Since it's a reprint and not a new product, there's no set street date for it, but I'd expect it to be showing up at retail any day now.

I know. I was asking about the third printing. Sorry I was not clear.

Yea I saw that as well that there was a third printing run already. THink it was on the BLOG but not sure which one. Possibly the one about Monte writing a Module.

Sean

We've already sold most of the second print run, but we have not yet pulled the trigger on a third yet. We'll be looking at distributor reorders over the next couple of weeks to help us figure out the appropriate time.

You guys are already looking into a third printing? Awesome! I would think congratulations are in order as well! Whens the party?

We've already sold most of the second print run, but we have not yet pulled the trigger on a third yet. We'll be looking at distributor reorders over the next couple of weeks to help us figure out the appropriate time.

Speaking of distributors, do you know wheter the folks Amazon UK have received their shipment of the second printing? I've been trying to contact them about it, but they're not replying to my queries, and that is really really annoying... any info you might have will be extremely appreciated!

Vic Wertz wrote:

We've already sold most of the second print run, but we have not yet pulled the trigger on a third yet. We'll be looking at distributor reorders over the next couple of weeks to help us figure out the appropriate time.

Speaking of distributors, do you know wheter the folks Amazon UK have received their shipment of the second printing? I've been trying to contact them about it, but they're not replying to my queries, and that is really really annoying... any info you might have will be extremely appreciated!

I live in Canada and Amazon here hasn't received a shipment and doesn't even know for sure if they are getting one though they do have orders in for it. They are just as in the dark on it as I am. I suspect the UK is probably the same.

I live in Canada and Amazon here hasn't received a shipment and doesn't even know for sure if they are getting one though they do have orders in for it. They are just as in the dark on it as I am. I suspect the UK is probably the same.

"Regular" old amazon.com doesn't have it yet either... I'm waiting to pull the trigger on an order for three copies as soon as it shows up. :-)

The 2nd printing has errata corrections, correct?

Will the 3rd printing contain additional corrections?

How would I verify that I have a 2nd or 3rd printing rulebook before I purchase it - assuming I'm at my FLGS with book in hand?

Thanks!

On the Credits page at the bottom, just above where it says "Printed in China" it will state "Second printing November 2009" or Third printing (month/year)". If you look at the credits page on the first printing it shows "First printing August 2009".

Just my 2 cp.

Vic Wertz wrote:

We've already sold most of the second print run, but we have not yet pulled the trigger on a third yet. We'll be looking at distributor reorders over the next couple of weeks to help us figure out the appropriate time.

Speaking of distributors, do you know wheter the folks Amazon UK have received their shipment of the second printing? I've been trying to contact them about it, but they're not replying to my queries, and that is really really annoying... any info you might have will be extremely appreciated!

We don't ship directly to them, and have no insight into their stocking situation. I can tell you that we shipped to their distributor a while ago, though.

The 2nd printing has errata corrections, correct?

Will the 3rd printing contain additional corrections?

How would I verify that I have a 2nd or 3rd printing rulebook before I purchase it - assuming I'm at my FLGS with book in hand?

Thanks!

The second printing incorporates the errata found in the "Errata for First Printing v1.0" file linked from here. (The PDF and PRD have both reflected the second printing since the day they were released.)

The third printing will contain additional corrections. The PDF and PRD will be revised to reflect the third printing shortly after we send it to the printer, and new errata files will be released for both 1st and 2nd printings to bring them up to date.

And silverhair2008 is correct—the printing is identified at the bottom of the credits page, just above the country of origin.

The second printing incorporates the errata found in the "Errata for First Printing v1.0" file linked from here. (The PDF and PRD have both reflected the second printing since the day they were released.)

If I order copies of the Core Rulebook from paizo.com, am I guaranteed to receive the second printing, rather than the first?

Vic Wertz wrote:

The second printing incorporates the errata found in the "Errata for First Printing v1.0" file linked from here. (The PDF and PRD have both reflected the second printing since the day they were released.)

If I order copies of the Core Rulebook from paizo.com, am I guaranteed to receive the second printing, rather than the first?

We are indeed shipping only the second printing now.

Review over at Fantasy magazine.

I found a new Pathfinder Core Rules Advert today!

Very cute!
http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~bowie/pfcr-advert.jpg

Kizan

This is a very good book and it is obviously the progression path of choice to continue from DnD 3.5 into the next decade. However there are three poins i'd like to raise:
1. i'm very disappointed that the basic character traits aren't in this book. I found the traits to be a very good addition to the core rules. Not having them in here is missing out on an opportunity to raise this book from epic to divine.
2. i'm a bit worried whether or not the cover'll hold. After having read the entire book it seemed that towards the end the cover is telling me that it might not hold for another 10 years.
3. i'm a bit disappointed also by the choice of prestige classes in the book. There seems to have been mainly attention for magic users to progress into a prestige class and also a bit for rogues. A barbarian or fighter has no choice or only one choice. The melee guys in my party were none to pleased with that.

Other then those three minor points, the job they did on overhauling the rules is amazing and almost all issues i had with DnD 3.5 have been resolved or at the very least seriously mitigated. Given the price one needs to get all the basic material in: it's a must buy for anyone who liked DnD 3.5 and wants to continue along that path!

Question: I bought the book from a gamer store, and I am considering buying the PDF, but one of my friends had it from the subscription, and the bookmarks in it were horribly wankers. Since half the reason to get the PDF is faster flip throughs, bookmarks that aren't organized well and don't go where they're supposed to is a pretty big issue for me.

Have the bookmarks been fixed in the PDF since the original launch?

Question: I bought the book from a gamer store, and I am considering buying the PDF, but one of my friends had it from the subscription, and the bookmarks in it were horribly wankers. Since half the reason to get the PDF is faster flip throughs, bookmarks that aren't organized well and don't go where they're supposed to is a pretty big issue for me.

Have the bookmarks been fixed in the PDF since the original launch?

I believe all the bookmarks have since been fixed. They did a update to it a long time back, like a couple of months after it came out.

Question: I bought the book from a gamer store, and I am considering buying the PDF, but one of my friends had it from the subscription, and the bookmarks in it were horribly wankers. Since half the reason to get the PDF is faster flip throughs, bookmarks that aren't organized well and don't go where they're supposed to is a pretty big issue for me.

Have the bookmarks been fixed in the PDF since the original launch?

Shaybee, if you want to SEE what changes Paizo has done, just tell your friend that they can download the latest updated PDF directly from Paizo if they indeed bought the PDF from Paizo. Everytime Paizo updates their PDFs, you can re-download the latest update for free.

Shaybee, if you want to SEE what changes Paizo has done, just tell your friend that they can download the latest updated PDF directly from Paizo if they indeed bought the PDF from Paizo. Everytime Paizo updates their PDFs, you can re-download the latest update for free. FYI, apparently a signifigant update sounds like it is coming out in the next month or 2 or 3.

Cool! I'll poke and see if I can get him to re-download then. =) about the only thing he uses the PDF for is full-text searching, so the bookmarks haven't been an issue for him. I'm not sure if he's aware that there's been errata added, and I'll make sure he knows that the 3rd publishing will have more.

Thank you!

With the release of 4th edition and its obvious lack of a soul, my hopes were thoroughly crushed and I feared I myself and many others would be left behind and forgotten clutching to our 3rd edition books till they crumbled. I was however lucky enought to be pointed to Pathfinder by a good friend and I have to say wow! Its still "my" game though I immediately noticed changes. The changes are done smoothly and are obviously the result of designers truly listening to feedback from the multitudes of playtesters... I cant say enough about this book and this game.

While we're always happy to hear good reviews and kind words for Pathfinder products... please avoid the temptation to use that as an opportunity to blast or badmouth other game systems. That doesn't accomplish anything but undo your kind words and perpetuate the idea that these boards are filled with intolerance and hate for gaming.

i typically do not post things but this core rule book is by far the best i have ever seen. the rules, the break up of sections, the illustrations, the charts, and (as an art director/graphic designer) the design....ALL WONDERFUL. the team did such a great job with this AND the rest of the books. thanks for making 3.5 better than it ever has been. and to the team for being so responsive to questions and comments i have had over the year. thanks!
nick

i typically do not post things but this core rule book is by far the best i have ever seen. the rules, the break up of sections, the illustrations, the charts, and (as an art director/graphic designer) the design....ALL WONDERFUL. the team did such a great job with this AND the rest of the books. thanks for making 3.5 better than it ever has been. and to the team for being so responsive to questions and comments i have had over the year. thanks!

nick

Thanks Nick! Glad you liked the book! We are pretty pleased with it ourselves. :)

-Lisa

I figured this would be the best place to ask...

Will the third printing of this product include all of the Errata/changes that have been made over time, or would it essentially be the same book I bought when it first came out?

I figured this would be the best place to ask...

Will the third printing of this product include all of the Errata/changes that have been made over time, or would it essentially be the same book I bought when it first came out?

I don't know for sure, but I would imagine that all the errata that had been compiled by the time it was sent to the printers would have been included. But that's just a guess on my part.

I figured this would be the best place to ask...

Will the third printing of this product include all of the Errata/changes that have been made over time, or would it essentially be the same book I bought when it first came out?

When we do a third print run, we will include any errata that we know about at that time. And then when we do a fourth print run, we will include any new errata there. And a fifth printing. And a sixth. Basically, whenever we reprint any of our core rulebooks, any known errata will be fixed at that point.

-Lisa

DarkKnightCuron wrote:

I figured this would be the best place to ask...

Will the third printing of this product include all of the Errata/changes that have been made over time, or would it essentially be the same book I bought when it first came out?

When we do a third print run, we will include any errata that we know about at that time. And then when we do a fourth print run, we will include any new errata there. And a fifth printing. And a sixth. Basically, whenever we reprint any of our core rulebooks, any known errata will be fixed at that point.

-Lisa

Excellent! I'll definitely be purchasing another print edition of the Rulebook when the third print run becomes available then.

Lisa Stevens wrote:

DarkKnightCuron wrote:

I figured this would be the best place to ask...

Will the third printing of this product include all of the Errata/changes that have been made over time, or would it essentially be the same book I bought when it first came out?

When we do a third print run, we will include any errata that we know about at that time. And then when we do a fourth print run, we will include any new errata there. And a fifth printing. And a sixth. Basically, whenever we reprint any of our core rulebooks, any known errata will be fixed at that point.

-Lisa

Excellent! I'll definitely be purchasing another print edition of the Rulebook when the third print run becomes available then.

So what printing is the book on now? I just ordered mine this week and should be receiving it tomorrow. And is there any errata updates in the current books being sold now, or is it still too early?

DarkKnightCuron wrote:

Lisa Stevens wrote:

DarkKnightCuron wrote:

I figured this would be the best place to ask...

Will the third printing of this product include all of the Errata/changes that have been made over time, or would it essentially be the same book I bought when it first came out?

When we do a third print run, we will include any errata that we know about at that time. And then when we do a fourth print run, we will include any new errata there. And a fifth printing. And a sixth. Basically, whenever we reprint any of our core rulebooks, any known errata will be fixed at that point.

-Lisa

Excellent! I'll definitely be purchasing another print edition of the Rulebook when the third print run becomes available then.

So what printing is the book on now? I just ordered mine this week and should be receiving it tomorrow. And is there any errata updates in the current books being sold now, or is it still too early?

Depending on the vedor's stock, it should be either first or second print.

Hobbun wrote:

So what printing is the book on now? I just ordered mine this week and should be receiving it tomorrow. And is there any errata updates in the current books being sold now, or is it still too early?

Depending on the vedor's stock, it should be either first or second print.

If you ordered through Paizo, it should be the second printing.

If you end up with the first printing, you can always download the errata. This should also be updated when the third printing is done... But I don't want to make promises for Paizo.