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Hugo Solis
(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
Well the press release email confirms these are going to be rarer than hot cakes!
"Ten days before the launch of their much-anticipated Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook, Paizo Publishing today announced that the first print run of the book has sold out, with all preordered copies on their way to stores for an August 13 release. With preorders more than five times greater than for any previous product in Paizo's seven-year history, orders for the Core Rulebook continue to mount even as the company speeds to produce another print run."
Great news. Just glad to have had the shipment email for mine!
You know, I have been thinking about the numbers question, which is already being asked on at least 2 message boards. I know that the ultra conservative number is a minimum of 10,000, but I am betting its closer to 25,000 or better. Either way, an extremely encouraging start for the Pathfinder RPG and the future of Paizo in general. Congratulations and I look forward to congratulating Paizo in person at Gen Con in just a few short days.
Dragon Magazine #286 has a map of Shannara, and other details.Thank you, Majuba. I'm actually going to retro-fit it into Varisia. It is civilized enough to have the requisite cities, but wild enough to have the nasties walk around. Korvosa will fill the void of the Federation well enough.
Does anyone else have their next adventure or campaign planned out?
I'm simply going to run Legacy of Fire under the final rules. We've been stuck getting out of Falcon's Hallow. I really need to get these guys to play more regularly...
I ordered mine through Amazon. You just know what my next question is.....will I get mine?
We shipped quite a few copies to our book distributor who in turn sells to Amazon. We can't control to whom our book distributor sells the copies we send them, just like we can't control to whom our hobby game distributors sell their copies. I assume that many of these distributors will have to allocate, but some may fulfill based on who ordered first, etc. Again, we can't control their policies about who gets what part of their ordered filled. I can confirm that we sent a HUGE shipment of books out into distribution, so they will be somewhere to be bought.
-Lisa
Hugo Solis
(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
Me, you ask? I plan on doing a knockoff of the "Heritage of Shannara" series by Mr. Terry Brooks. I imagine that it will take some customization to make it work, but in the end, I'm really excited about how it will shape up.Dragon Magazine #286 has a map of Shannara, and other details.
And I was very late to the 3e scene, starting to DM back in 2004.Wow you must be a young'un.
I dm'd my first game in 1986. Original D&D Red Box.Ummm... not to contradict your statement, but Lisa went to Gen Cons well before '86 if I remember correctly...
For the record, I was *born* in '79, first game in '88 I think.
Good God I'm old! I started in '79 now I'm DMing for grand kids.
EDIT: 666TH post in the thread, ironic.
To Lisa Stevens and Bitter Thorn: The store is Enchanted Grounds in Highlands Ranch (a suburb south of Denver). We've been open for almost three years, and have carried Pathfinder since it was first announced.
I am actually an AD&D player, having never made the switch to 3.0, 3.5 or 4E, and played that from the time I was ten years old all the way through September, last year. It was around then when I read the RotRL modules, looking for ideas. I was so impressed that I pitched the idea of trying out the Pathfinder Beta rules to my home group, and they jumped on board. I taught my staff the basics of your line, and our sales have been very respectable, ever since. Pathfinder occupies a front and center spot on our RPG displayers, right next to 4E, and I have standing orders for everything Paizo publishes with ACD (my distributor). I currently have 10 presales on the PFRPG book, a number which is very respectable (I had 29 for the 4E PHB2).
That's probably more detail than you want, but I thought it might be worth noting, as the presale numbers are kind of on topic for this thread.
Anyway, keep up the good work, Lisa. Pathfinder releases are always highly anticipated by our staff and customers, and you've won a hard fan to please, in me (if that wasn't obvious by my refusal to switch to 3E or 4E).
And, Bitter Thorn, please introduce yourself when you come to visit. We plan on doing PF Society games in the store when they make to switch to PFRPG, and need to develop a good contact list. Just ask for Jeff.
Thanks Jeff!
Congratulations Paizo on the first print run of PFRPG Core Rules selling out! That is a big freakin deal!
Hear, hear! Congratulations, Lisa and the guys -- this shows how amazing job you're doing! :)
I hope the second print run will last longer, because I know at least 20 people who will want to grab their copies but haven't ordered them yet (including my own players).
Well the press release email confirms these are going to be rarer than hot cakes!D'oh (facepalm).
I sure hope that my not so local game store will have a few, I sure hope he ordered them, did you ship a few to Utrecht, Netherlands?
We don't sell directly to retailers, and we don't have a distributor in the Netherlands. I can only assume he's buying from one of our other European distributors.
Really, though, for you and anyone else wondering "will I get my copy," the only person who can answer that is your retailer.
I ordered mine through Amazon. You just know what my next question is.....will I get mine?We shipped quite a few copies to our book distributor who in turn sells to Amazon. We can't control to whom our book distributor sells the copies we send them, just like we can't control to whom our hobby game distributors sell their copies. I assume that many of these distributors will have to allocate, but some may fulfill based on who ordered first, etc. Again, we can't control their policies about who gets what part of their ordered filled. I can confirm that we sent a HUGE shipment of books out into distribution, so they will be somewhere to be bought.
-Lisa
I think its great that you all sold out before release day. Congrats on that! Just wondering though... how many copies is a "HUGE" amount?
(I also have players placing orders with amazon after the "sold out" announcement)
Well the press release email confirms these are going to be rarer than hot cakes!D'oh (facepalm).
I sure hope that my not so local game store will have a few, I sure hope he ordered them, did you ship a few to Utrecht, Netherlands?
We don't sell directly to retailers, and we don't have a distributor in the Netherlands. I can only assume he's buying from one of our other European distributors.
Really, though, for you and anyone else wondering "will I get my copy," the only person who can answer that is your retailer.
Just checked this afternoon, the clerk didn't know it was sold out, after checking his system he confirmed it was sold out and that new stock should arrive a month later (which I guess is probably more of a system indication than actual truth).
So another facepalm is in order, should have pre-ordered it ;<
Congrats to Paizo on the sell out of the first print run! :) Great work brings great reward.
One question though; at which point do non-subscription pre-orders of the Core Rules ship? Aiming for delivery on the 13th I assume, which would mean in a few days I'm hoping. I pre-ordered in February and it says pending so I'm terribly excited.
*grins* If I get it in time I'll have a go at running an adventure at our Con coming up at the end of the month!
Dark_Mistress
(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
Congrats to Paizo on the sell out of the first print run! :) Great work brings great reward.
One question though; at which point do non-subscription pre-orders of the Core Rules ship? Aiming for delivery on the 13th I assume, which would mean in a few days I'm hoping. I pre-ordered in February and it says pending so I'm terribly excited.
*grins* If I get it in time I'll have a go at running an adventure at our Con coming up at the end of the month!
They have said that they are going to try and set it up so everyone that preordered or subscribed will get the book on about the 13th regardless of where they live.
I live in Saint Louis MO and my email said mine would ship the morning of the 11th.
So, it *was* all good news. Then it went bad.
Our store is up to 23 preorders after the last couple days. I'm assuming that everyone saw the "sold out" announcement and went running to their stores. That's good news. It shows excitement for a good product, and loyalty to the stores that inform them of this product.
Sadly, when I contacted my distributor to up my quantity from 20 to 30, I was told that they were going to hold me to the *first* number I put in two months ago (15). Their reasoning was that Paizo told them that their full order was not going to be delivered due to commitments to book distribuors. That, obviously, is bad. I now have a lot of players who will be upset about not getting their book, and will be blaming my store instead of being patient and understanding of the situation.
Looks like I lose yet more sales to Amazon, et. al. Sigh...
Their reasoning was that Paizo told them that their full order was not going to be delivered due to commitments to book distribuors. That, obviously, is bad.
This is not precisely the case. I'd really appreciate it if you could contact me via email (erik.mona@paizo.com) and let me know which distributor gave you that story so I can look into why they have drawn this conclusion.
Also: We are getting a "second wave" in the low thousands before the November reprint (we held these back at our overseas printer in case the main shipment got held up in customs and forced us to miss our Gen Con release). The current plan is to allocate most if not all of these books to the hobby trade.
So even if you are forced to wait, you will likely not be forced to wait too long.
Well now, this is interesting:
It appears a FLGS put their copies on the shelves a bit early.
Well now, this is interesting:
It appears a FLGS put their copies on the shelves a bit early.
Ah that sucks. I mean it's a nice review. Oh well.. c'est la vie
Dark_Mistress
(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
I ordered mine on July, 24, right after I got the e-mail about ordering before they run out, and have not recieved any notification as to when my copy is being shipped. I live in Las Vegas, so it shoudln't take as long to ship, but I thought they were shipping copies out early this week. anyone have any clue on this?
Well just a FYI if all you order was the book yours won't likely be done till the day it actually ships or near then. For the rest of us that subscribe to other things they got ours ready early for a variety of reason but including allowing us access to the PDF's to the other products currently holding to ship with the main book. Which is my case.
I don't think you have anything to worry about. Yours should ship around the same time as mine.
I live in Saint Louis MO and my email said mine would ship the morning of the 11th.
It actually says that it will ship *by* the 11th—that's the date that the last of the shipments will go out. Yours will actually leave the building sooner, since it will take a few days longer to get to you.
I ordered mine on July, 24, right after I got the e-mail about ordering before they run out, and have not recieved any notification as to when my copy is being shipped. I live in Las Vegas, so it shoudln't take as long to ship, but I thought they were shipping copies out early this week. anyone have any clue on this?
Because you live closer, yours will ship later. Hopefully as many people as possible will get them as close to the release date as possible.
I ordered one of the Harry Potter books from Amazon.com because they promised I would get it the day of the release. My niece was Harry Potter crazed at the time, and her awesome uncle was going to get her a copy the day it came out without her (or me) having to stand in line or stay up all night.
Release day came and went. No book. The Amazon page said it had shipped and been delivered. Had someone stolen it? I decided to wait one more day.
Two days after the release date, about 9PM, my neighbor knocks on the door. Guess what she did a few days ago to make sure nobody stole a package off my porch while I was out and about?
My niece already had borrowed a copy from a kid who read the whole thing in one night.
Since I have to work August 13th, I guess I will have to hire someone to sit on my porch all day and hope they won't go two blocks down the street to the "I Sold It on eBay" store and scalp the book onto one of you guys who didn't preorder.
Dark_Mistress
(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)
I live in Saint Louis MO and my email said mine would ship the morning of the 11th.It actually says that it will ship *by* the 11th—that's the date that the last of the shipments will go out. Yours will actually leave the building sooner, since it will take a few days longer to get to you.
Your right I forgot to say ship by the morning of the 11th. Least I assume morning.
Wow. I just read it. The e-mail I mean. Sold out. Completely sold out. I wasn't expecting it. I have played D&D for going on thirty years now. I can't tell you how heart breaking the corporate decisions of WoTC have been, but I can tell you all that the tears of joy (literally) from the e-mail I read today are still trickling down my face. I have been hoping, and may have even prayed once, that the sales of this book would exceed the sales expectations. I put in my request for one just a few days ago. But you know what, I'll be proud, darnably proud if I have to wait for Novemeber to get mine. I'll just buy the PDF, I was going to anyway, and hope to one day be counted among the biggest fans of Paizo on the Plane. Jason, everyone, you have done so much good. May the second print run sell out too! (cry, cry, sob, sob) :) VIVA LA PATHFINDER!!! WOOHOO!!!
I am so stoked for this. I really hope my (F)LGS got the preorder in. They've messed up in the past. I already checked in twice ("You're sure the order got placed? -store guy ruffles through a stack of handwritten scrawls on loose pieces paper-"Ah, yeah. What was your name again? I'll write it down again..." Really doesn't instill confidence in me. I have to keep biting back "Have you heard of a database or a spreadsheet?")
SSadly, when I contacted my distributor to up my quantity from 20 to 30, I was told that they were going to hold me to the *first* number I put in two months ago (15). Their reasoning was that Paizo told them that their full order was not going to be delivered due to commitments to book distribuors. That, obviously, is bad.
That's unequivocally untrue. We fulfilled all distribution orders that arrived by our order deadline. Every single copy ordered by both the book trade and the hobby trade, with no allocation. Period. After our order deadline, we even fulfilled a few late orders and early reorders before we sold out, so some distributors received even *more* than their initial orders.
And the suggestion that we prefer the book trade over hobby distribution is ludicrous. Anybody who understands the industry would know that the book trade buys things on a returnable basis, and the hobby does not; from there you might imagine that we'd much rather sell a book that we know won't be coming back to us than one that might.