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Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 05:31 PM

Now available for subscription... subscribers get 20% off, and the ability to purchase already released Flip-Mats and Map Packs for 15% off.

DarkWhite (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 08:21 PM

More subscription options can only be a good thing! :-) Though I was hoping for a way to subscribe to Flipmats only, without the map packs.

Also, with more subscription options being released, do we risk our Superscriber status if we choose not to sign up for one of the new subscription options?

Treebore the Ruby Lord, Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 08:40 PM

GRRR!! Man I JUST caught up on them day before yesterday! Oh well, I think I still got the PF subscriber discount, so I believe its the same, right?

OK, I'll sign up for this, I love maps!

Steve Geddes (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 08:42 PM

Treebore the Ruby Lord wrote:

GRRR!! Man I JUST caught up on them day before yesterday! Oh well, I think I still got the PF subscriber discount, so I believe its the same, right?

OK, I'll sign up for this, I love maps!

I'm pretty sure I got both discounts.

Sharoth (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 08:45 PM

That is a good question. Do both discounts stack? This question applies to botht the map and card subscription. My guess is no, but I would like to make sure. Thanks in advance for the answer!

Robert Miller 55 (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 08:49 PM

I ordered the subscription, and it puts the wizard tower in there too, and that was mailed to me yesterday. Plus how do I make it combine shipping with my PF subscription?

Edit: OK. I see how to combine shipping, but how do I make sure I do not get sent the Wizards Tower since it was already sent yesterday?

Ross Byers (Assistant Software Developer), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 09:30 PM

Robert Miller 55 wrote:

Edit: OK. I see how to combine shipping, but how do I make sure I do not get sent the Wizards Tower since it was already sent yesterday?

With the subscription in your cart, you should be able to choose to start with either the current product (Wizard's Tower) or the next product (Dungeon Flip Mat.)

If you choose the flip mat, you will not be sent another Wizard's tower.

Masika (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 10:02 PM

I hope that both subscriptions do not stack...

I recently purchased a ALL back catalogue map packs.

Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 10:17 PM

They look like good products, but I'm still holding out for Adventure Path PDF maps.

Zuxius (Paizo Superscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 03:00 AM

I am all over this!

Zuxius (Paizo Superscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 03:00 AM

Is that you Kor? We miss you!

Masika (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 04:25 AM

Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper wrote:

They look like good products, but I'm still holding out for Adventure Path PDF maps.

It would be great to get battle maps. :)

Steve Geddes (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 04:46 AM

Masika wrote:

Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper wrote:

They look like good products, but I'm still holding out for Adventure Path PDF maps.

It would be great to get battle maps. :)

*listens carefully*

Is that the sound of James Jacobs I can hear...gently banging his head against his computer screen?

Masika (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 04:57 AM

LOL

I have never made my opinion a secret. :)

Steve Geddes (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 05:01 AM

Masika wrote:

LOL

I have never made my opinion a secret. :)

I'm with you - I'd even pay enough for Paizo to make a profit from them. I just find it amusing when it crops up and JJ makes his appearance to politely explain... :)

Shem (Paizo Charter Superscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 06:33 AM

Thank you so much for this. I hate having to guess what is coming out when and making sure I order it. Of course I have been nagging (hopefully subtly) for this for several months. Paizo even listens to nagging.... Thank you again.

GreatKhanArtist (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 08:57 AM

Yay! Power to the people!

Robert Miller 55 (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 09:01 AM

Ross Byers wrote:

Robert Miller 55 wrote:

Edit: OK. I see how to combine shipping, but how do I make sure I do not get sent the Wizards Tower since it was already sent yesterday?

With the subscription in your cart, you should be able to choose to start with either the current product (Wizard's Tower) or the next product (Dungeon Flip Mat.)

If you choose the flip mat, you will not be sent another Wizard's tower.

Thanks! That worked!

Corey Macourek (Cartographer), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 09:25 AM

Yay. More people to buy maps=more map to create. I like that math.

Plus, I just got my hands on the Wizard's Tower Map Pack the other day and it looks amazing!

Zaister (Paizo Charter Superscriber), Sat, Jun 6, 2009, 09:28 AM

I love the map packs, great work Corey!

Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Mon, Jun 8, 2009, 03:25 PM

Sharoth wrote:

That is a good question. Do both discounts stack? This question applies to botht the map and card subscription. My guess is no, but I would like to make sure. Thanks in advance for the answer!

The subscriber discount on older products is 15% off MSRP. The Pathfinder Advantage discount is 15% off MSRP. So whether or not they both apply is kind of irrelevant—either way, you'd get 15% off MSRP.

bugleyman, Mon, Jun 8, 2009, 03:28 PM

Vic Wertz wrote:

Sharoth wrote:

That is a good question. Do both discounts stack? This question applies to botht the map and card subscription. My guess is no, but I would like to make sure. Thanks in advance for the answer!

The subscriber discount on older products is 15% off MSRP. The Pathfinder Advantage discount is 15% off MSRP. So whether or not they both apply is kind of irrelevant—either way, you'd get 15% off MSRP.

Wait...what? He asked if they stack; surely a 3E gamer knows what that means! :P

bugleyman, Mon, Jun 8, 2009, 03:34 PM

So...a bit of a more serious post...

I bought a few of the early map packs, but was discouraged to discover that they seemed designed to fit together only a particular way; as if permutation hadn't been a concern. For example, forest tiles that had different shades of green on opposite ends for no apparent reason, therefore reducing the ways the tiles could be matched up. I found this to be a great (and strangely unnecessary) blow to usability. Is that still the case with the newer map packs?

DigitalMage, Tue, Jun 9, 2009, 08:11 AM

bugleyman wrote:

I bought a few of the early map packs, but was discouraged to discover that they seemed designed to fit together only a particular way;

I have this problem too, though I have noted that Sewers was very flexible as was Waterfront (the ship is seperate from the piers etc). Hopefully future map packs will be like this too.

Lisa Stevens (CEO), Tue, Jun 9, 2009, 09:55 AM

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower, but other times like the Waterfront, it works like a charm. Personally, I like the more modular ones myself as I tend to want to recreate various locations n adventures and the modular ones allow me to do that better. We'll keep playing with the mix. Let us know what you think.

-Lisa

DitheringFool (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Cards Subscriber), Tue, Jun 9, 2009, 10:03 AM

Lisa Stevens wrote:

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower,

The Wizards Tower is the first one I'm getting in a long while...

Lisa Stevens (CEO), Tue, Jun 9, 2009, 10:22 AM

DitheringFool wrote:

Lisa Stevens wrote:

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower,

The Wizards Tower is the first one I'm getting in a long while...

I really like Wizard's Tower, but it is more of a set piece than a set of interchangeable pieces. In other words, you only get one incarnation of a wizard's tower, not the pieces to make a number of different towers. In this case, it made more sense to make one cool tower.

-Lisa

bugleyman, Tue, Jun 9, 2009, 10:29 AM

Lisa Stevens wrote:

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower, but other times like the Waterfront, it works like a charm. Personally, I like the more modular ones myself as I tend to want to recreate various locations n adventures and the modular ones allow me to do that better. We'll keep playing with the mix. Let us know what you think.

-Lisa

Great to know; thanks. Have I mentioned how awesome it is that you guys are so responsive? :)

Masika (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Tue, Jun 9, 2009, 04:28 PM

bugleyman wrote:

Lisa Stevens wrote:

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower, but other times like the Waterfront, it works like a charm. Personally, I like the more modular ones myself as I tend to want to recreate various locations n adventures and the modular ones allow me to do that better. We'll keep playing with the mix. Let us know what you think.

-Lisa

Great to know; thanks. Have I mentioned how awesome it is that you guys are so responsive? :)

DM Jeff (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Tue, Jun 9, 2009, 08:11 PM

No brainer on this subscription. Outstanding. Subscribed.

-DM Jeff

maraich (GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Sun, Jun 14, 2009, 04:17 AM

Very clever, guys & gals. Very clever indeed. First you hook me with a subscription for the item cards and now this.

Rocannon II (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Mon, Jun 15, 2009, 08:43 AM

I too, am interested in how this might effect subscriber status. Any info from the folks@ Paizo?

Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Mon, Jun 15, 2009, 02:25 PM

Rocannon II wrote:

I too, am interested in how this might effect subscriber status. Any info from the folks@ Paizo?

I'm not clear on the question. Can you be more specific?

Guennarr (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Planet Stories Subscriber), Thu, Jun 18, 2009, 09:04 AM

As interested as I am in a flip mat subscription, I am not that much into GameMastery maps as both map styles seem to be pretty exclusive of each other - either tiles or a full blown map.

*sigh* But I guess I'll give it a try...

Kr,
Günther

Eric Tillemans (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Cards Subscriber), Sat, Jun 20, 2009, 10:30 AM

After speaking with Vic at PaizoCon, I went by Office Max to look for some sort of handy container to store my map packs. The 5x8 size is just too awkward and I didn't have any luck...if they were 5x7 then it would have been easy.

Anyone with advice on how to store the map packs?

Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Sat, Jun 20, 2009, 11:58 AM

Eric Tillemans wrote:

After speaking with Vic at PaizoCon, I went by Office Max to look for some sort of handy container to store my map packs. The 5x8 size is just too awkward and I didn't have any luck...if they were 5x7 then it would have been easy.

Anyone with advice on how to store the map packs?

Here's the container I was speaking of:

http://www.officemax.com/catalog/sku.jsp?productId=ARS26037

The 5x8 size is perfect for our Map Packs.

Eric Tillemans (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Cards Subscriber), Sat, Jun 20, 2009, 12:03 PM

Vic Wertz wrote:

Here's the container I was speaking of:

http://www.officemax.com/catalog/sku.jsp?productId=ARS26037

The 5x8 size is perfect for our Map Packs.

Terrific! Thanks Vic. When I looked around the store I didn't notice these card boxes, but they do look like they will work.

Dave Gross (Contributor), Sat, Jun 27, 2009, 10:54 AM

Vic Wertz wrote:

Now available for subscription... subscribers get 20% off, and the ability to purchase already released Flip-Mats and Map Packs for 15% off.

The only reason I don't sign up here is that I already "subscribe" at the local game store. Along with the Alea Tools discs, these are my must-have game aids. I'd love to see more based on locations from PF scenarios.

Werecorpse (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 02:54 AM

2 questions

1- what is the difference between flip mats & map packs? can you write on them both?

2- do any of the flip mats or map packs relate specifically to encounters in any of the modules or adventure paths & if so which ones with which ones.

Thanks

Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 11:49 AM

Werecorpse wrote:

2 questions

1- what is the difference between flip mats & map packs? can you write on them both?

2- do any of the flip mats or map packs relate specifically to encounters in any of the modules or adventure paths & if so which ones with which ones.

Thanks

Flip-Mats are 24x30 erasable double-sided mats, while Map Packs are sets of 18 non-erasable single-sided 5x8 tiles that present a bunch of small locations based around a specific theme. (Some locations span multiple tiles.)

As for the ones that have been featured in adventures, Module TC1: Into the Haunted Forest makes use of Map Pack: Inns and Flip Mat: Woodlands. Pathfinder Module: Crypt of the Everflame uses the new Flip-Mat Dungeon. And several of the Pathfinder Society Scenarios use GameMastery maps, but I don't have a list of those.

Bert Blaine, Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 07:40 AM

It would be cool if we could purchase thes in pdf format also.

schmecka, Sat, Oct 3, 2009, 05:28 AM

I am very interested in 20% off, but do I have to also pay for s/h every month for each pack?

thenorthman (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Sat, Oct 3, 2009, 11:37 AM

schmecka wrote:

I am very interested in 20% off, but do I have to also pay for s/h every month for each pack?

Yes you do but I think you still come out ahead.

Where you really come ahead is if you have a subscription to another product and combine shipping every month.

Then the discounts really work.

Sean