Now available for subscription... subscribers get 20% off, and the ability to purchase already released Flip-Mats and Map Packs for 15% off.

More subscription options can only be a good thing! :-) Though I was hoping for a way to subscribe to Flipmats only, without the map packs.

Also, with more subscription options being released, do we risk our Superscriber status if we choose not to sign up for one of the new subscription options?

GRRR!! Man I JUST caught up on them day before yesterday! Oh well, I think I still got the PF subscriber discount, so I believe its the same, right?

OK, I'll sign up for this, I love maps!

GRRR!! Man I JUST caught up on them day before yesterday! Oh well, I think I still got the PF subscriber discount, so I believe its the same, right?

OK, I'll sign up for this, I love maps!

I'm pretty sure I got both discounts.

That is a good question. Do both discounts stack? This question applies to botht the map and card subscription. My guess is no, but I would like to make sure. Thanks in advance for the answer!

I ordered the subscription, and it puts the wizard tower in there too, and that was mailed to me yesterday. Plus how do I make it combine shipping with my PF subscription?

Edit: OK. I see how to combine shipping, but how do I make sure I do not get sent the Wizards Tower since it was already sent yesterday?

Edit: OK. I see how to combine shipping, but how do I make sure I do not get sent the Wizards Tower since it was already sent yesterday?

With the subscription in your cart, you should be able to choose to start with either the current product (Wizard's Tower) or the next product (Dungeon Flip Mat.)

If you choose the flip mat, you will not be sent another Wizard's tower.

I hope that both subscriptions do not stack...

I recently purchased a ALL back catalogue map packs.

They look like good products, but I'm still holding out for Adventure Path PDF maps.

I am all over this!

Is that you Kor? We miss you!

They look like good products, but I'm still holding out for Adventure Path PDF maps.

It would be great to get battle maps. :)

Kor - Orc Scrollkeeper wrote:

They look like good products, but I'm still holding out for Adventure Path PDF maps.

It would be great to get battle maps. :)

*listens carefully*

Is that the sound of James Jacobs I can hear...gently banging his head against his computer screen?

LOL

I have never made my opinion a secret. :)

LOL

I have never made my opinion a secret. :)

I'm with you - I'd even pay enough for Paizo to make a profit from them. I just find it amusing when it crops up and JJ makes his appearance to politely explain... :)

Thank you so much for this. I hate having to guess what is coming out when and making sure I order it. Of course I have been nagging (hopefully subtly) for this for several months. Paizo even listens to nagging.... Thank you again.

Yay! Power to the people!

Robert Miller 55 wrote:

Edit: OK. I see how to combine shipping, but how do I make sure I do not get sent the Wizards Tower since it was already sent yesterday?

With the subscription in your cart, you should be able to choose to start with either the current product (Wizard's Tower) or the next product (Dungeon Flip Mat.)

If you choose the flip mat, you will not be sent another Wizard's tower.

Thanks! That worked!

Yay. More people to buy maps=more map to create. I like that math.

Plus, I just got my hands on the Wizard's Tower Map Pack the other day and it looks amazing!

I love the map packs, great work Corey!

That is a good question. Do both discounts stack? This question applies to botht the map and card subscription. My guess is no, but I would like to make sure. Thanks in advance for the answer!

The subscriber discount on older products is 15% off MSRP. The Pathfinder Advantage discount is 15% off MSRP. So whether or not they both apply is kind of irrelevant—either way, you'd get 15% off MSRP.

Sharoth wrote:

That is a good question. Do both discounts stack? This question applies to botht the map and card subscription. My guess is no, but I would like to make sure. Thanks in advance for the answer!

The subscriber discount on older products is 15% off MSRP. The Pathfinder Advantage discount is 15% off MSRP. So whether or not they both apply is kind of irrelevant—either way, you'd get 15% off MSRP.

Wait...what? He asked if they stack; surely a 3E gamer knows what that means! :P

So...a bit of a more serious post...

I bought a few of the early map packs, but was discouraged to discover that they seemed designed to fit together only a particular way; as if permutation hadn't been a concern. For example, forest tiles that had different shades of green on opposite ends for no apparent reason, therefore reducing the ways the tiles could be matched up. I found this to be a great (and strangely unnecessary) blow to usability. Is that still the case with the newer map packs?

I bought a few of the early map packs, but was discouraged to discover that they seemed designed to fit together only a particular way;

I have this problem too, though I have noted that Sewers was very flexible as was Waterfront (the ship is seperate from the piers etc). Hopefully future map packs will be like this too.

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower, but other times like the Waterfront, it works like a charm. Personally, I like the more modular ones myself as I tend to want to recreate various locations n adventures and the modular ones allow me to do that better. We'll keep playing with the mix. Let us know what you think.

-Lisa

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower,

The Wizards Tower is the first one I'm getting in a long while...

Lisa Stevens wrote:

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower,

The Wizards Tower is the first one I'm getting in a long while...

I really like Wizard's Tower, but it is more of a set piece than a set of interchangeable pieces. In other words, you only get one incarnation of a wizard's tower, not the pieces to make a number of different towers. In this case, it made more sense to make one cool tower.

-Lisa

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower, but other times like the Waterfront, it works like a charm. Personally, I like the more modular ones myself as I tend to want to recreate various locations n adventures and the modular ones allow me to do that better. We'll keep playing with the mix. Let us know what you think.

-Lisa

Great to know; thanks. Have I mentioned how awesome it is that you guys are so responsive? :)

Lisa Stevens wrote:

We have been working at making the maps more flexible. Sometimes it doesn't work as well, for instance the Wizard's Tower, but other times like the Waterfront, it works like a charm. Personally, I like the more modular ones myself as I tend to want to recreate various locations n adventures and the modular ones allow me to do that better. We'll keep playing with the mix. Let us know what you think.

-Lisa

Great to know; thanks. Have I mentioned how awesome it is that you guys are so responsive? :)

+1

No brainer on this subscription. Outstanding. Subscribed.

-DM Jeff

Very clever, guys & gals. Very clever indeed. First you hook me with a subscription for the item cards and now this.

I too, am interested in how this might effect subscriber status. Any info from the folks@ Paizo?

I too, am interested in how this might effect subscriber status. Any info from the folks@ Paizo?

I'm not clear on the question. Can you be more specific?

As interested as I am in a flip mat subscription, I am not that much into GameMastery maps as both map styles seem to be pretty exclusive of each other - either tiles or a full blown map.

*sigh* But I guess I'll give it a try...

Kr,
Günther

After speaking with Vic at PaizoCon, I went by Office Max to look for some sort of handy container to store my map packs. The 5x8 size is just too awkward and I didn't have any luck...if they were 5x7 then it would have been easy.

Anyone with advice on how to store the map packs?

After speaking with Vic at PaizoCon, I went by Office Max to look for some sort of handy container to store my map packs. The 5x8 size is just too awkward and I didn't have any luck...if they were 5x7 then it would have been easy.

Anyone with advice on how to store the map packs?

Here's the container I was speaking of:

http://www.officemax.com/catalog/sku.jsp?productId=ARS26037

The 5x8 size is perfect for our Map Packs.

Here's the container I was speaking of:

http://www.officemax.com/catalog/sku.jsp?productId=ARS26037

The 5x8 size is perfect for our Map Packs.

Terrific! Thanks Vic. When I looked around the store I didn't notice these card boxes, but they do look like they will work.

Now available for subscription... subscribers get 20% off, and the ability to purchase already released Flip-Mats and Map Packs for 15% off.

The only reason I don't sign up here is that I already "subscribe" at the local game store. Along with the Alea Tools discs, these are my must-have game aids. I'd love to see more based on locations from PF scenarios.

2 questions

1- what is the difference between flip mats & map packs? can you write on them both?

2- do any of the flip mats or map packs relate specifically to encounters in any of the modules or adventure paths & if so which ones with which ones.

Thanks

2 questions

1- what is the difference between flip mats & map packs? can you write on them both?

2- do any of the flip mats or map packs relate specifically to encounters in any of the modules or adventure paths & if so which ones with which ones.

Thanks

Flip-Mats are 24x30 erasable double-sided mats, while Map Packs are sets of 18 non-erasable single-sided 5x8 tiles that present a bunch of small locations based around a specific theme. (Some locations span multiple tiles.)

As for the ones that have been featured in adventures, Module TC1: Into the Haunted Forest makes use of Map Pack: Inns and Flip Mat: Woodlands. Pathfinder Module: Crypt of the Everflame uses the new Flip-Mat Dungeon. And several of the Pathfinder Society Scenarios use GameMastery maps, but I don't have a list of those.

It would be cool if we could purchase thes in pdf format also.

I am very interested in 20% off, but do I have to also pay for s/h every month for each pack?

I am very interested in 20% off, but do I have to also pay for s/h every month for each pack?

Yes you do but I think you still come out ahead.

Where you really come ahead is if you have a subscription to another product and combine shipping every month.

Then the discounts really work.

Sean

So, I feel compelled to say I have been using Gamemastery Flipmats for years now. Last Monday I used the winter mountain pass and my players were impressed with the quality, durability, and overall design.

+2

This post edited, as I realized it was answered already upthread. Thanks, Paizo.

Add my name to the list of people that would buy stacks and stacks of these maps if they were available in pdf format.

Count me in that group as well; if we had these available in an unlocked PDF format (for use with online gaming) or even a simple JPEG format I would be willing to pay a bundle to grab them all. The map packs in particular would be very useful in a JPEG format that we could rearrange in Photoshop to create unique scenes for online gaming.

At present I use some of the extremely low-res maps that Paizo publishes for advertising purposes online, and would absolutely pay for nicely detailed digital maps. The high resolution is a big aid for a GM trying to look professional, especially using a program like Maptool.

http://www.rptools.net/index.php?page=maptool

Bump. Any word on this? After seeing the flip-mats used to awesome effect during PaizoCon, I am very interested in the availability of digital files of these maps for use with online gaming. Jpegs would be ideal, and I'd be willing to pay at least $5 per image file. These images are great, much better than the free stuff online, and would be worth the price.

Vic, Lisa, James? Any possibility of this happening, and if not can you please explain why? I've money I'd like to spend on these, but the physical maps don't do me any good!

I would like .pdfs as well--not "unlocked" to use online, but to have something letter-paper sized that I can print out and write GM notes on.

Much as I love these maps, I've become frustrated that prepping ahead of time trying to use them is very difficult. One day I found myself trying to hold open the cathedral map (these things are 24x30 remember) while hand drawing its general shape and features into Campaign Cartographer so I could then use it to prep for my game session. Took me awhile to do. I bought these things to make less work for me, not more!

And I will say this: without .pdfs, I am planning to cancel my GameMastery map subscription within a few months. I know the next couple maps I both need in a timely fashion and they will end up shipping with my APG and/or other stuff I'm ordering, so I will get my money's worth shipping-wise.

But once those very specific things are ordered, there's nothing else I want to buy in the short term. And the maps alone--with no .pdf--are not worth the money, because I end up paying $14 including shipping, more than the retail cost, which is ridiculous. It'll be better for me in the long run to order them through my FLGS. I feel sorry for the people who don't have an FLGS to order through, though.

The other subscriptions make it worth the money even if you pay more for shipping, because of the "Free" (worth $10) .pdf. There's no similar benefit to subscribing to these. (And this isn't me threatening to #ragequit. I did the math, and once I get the couple things I need, I will be wasting money by keeping the Game Mastery Maps subscription. That is all.)

Several of us believe that if we offered our GameMastery maps in PDF form, a significant number of gamers would choose the PDF edition exclusively over the print edition, which would mean smaller print runs for the print edition, which—since print costs are based largely on volume—would in turn mean higher costs for the print edition, which would lead to even smaller sales for it, which would mean we wouldn't have a profitable line anymore.

Several of us believe that if we offered our GameMastery maps in PDF form, a significant number of gamers would choose the PDF edition exclusively over the print edition, which would mean smaller print runs for the print edition, which—since print costs are based largely on volume—would in turn mean higher costs for the print edition, which would lead to even smaller sales for it, which would mean we wouldn't have a profitable line anymore.

Aw, that's EASY to answer.

PDFs are only available with subscription. Then you likely have the opposite result.

Though you would probably have to listen about lots of complaints about how the PDFs are not available without a subscription. To which you can answer, "that's the benefit of having a subscription."