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Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Surprise!


Awesome!

Paizo Employee (Assistant Software Developer)

For the record, this is an AWESOME poster.

Andoran (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16)

Sold! Can I add it to my next outgoing Pathfinder Superscriber order?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Tales Subscriber)

Wohoo! Ordered!
...Wait, strike that, no way I'm paying $26.70 to ship a $6.99 poster.
Sigh, damn international shipping.

Andoran (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16)

Ross Byers wrote:
For the record, this is an AWESOME poster.

Hey, nice title there! sorry for the threadjack

Paizo Employee (Assistant Software Developer)

taig wrote:
Sold! Can I add it to my next outgoing Pathfinder Superscriber order?

We do not yet support combining other orders with Subscription shipments. However, even if we did, these posters are shipped in their own tube, so they'd ship seperately anyway and would cost just as much to ship. So why wait?

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Question how big is it? I am assuming normal poster size, like you see in walmart and other places but thought I should check.

Andoran (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16)

Ross Byers wrote:
taig wrote:
Sold! Can I add it to my next outgoing Pathfinder Superscriber order?
We do not yet support combining other orders with Subscription shipments. However, even if we did, these posters are shipped in their own tube, so they'd ship seperately anyway and would cost just as much to ship. So why wait?

Can we use the PFRPG promotion for this? Pretty please?


This...needs to go next to the first Worldwide D&D Game Day banner I have. :D

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Question how big is it? I am assuming normal poster size, like you see in walmart and other places but thought I should check.

It's 34" tall and 22" wide. Unless I did my math wrong. Which has been known to happen.

Qadira (Paizo Charter Superscriber)

Sold.

You guys have been getting way to much of my money this week. :-/

But I like!

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Ok cool thats what I assumed it would be. A typical movie poster or there abouts. I just remember once a friend of mine ordered a poster and it was like 12 by 20 or so, about half the size you would expect.


This poster is so amazing, it sucks the light out of my office. Seriously. It's a gravitational singularity from which both awesome and light cannot escape.


Joshua J. Frost wrote:
This poster is so amazing, it sucks the light out of my office. Seriously. It's a gravitational singularity from which both awesome and light cannot escape.

That spin really bummered me, dude.

Qadira (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6, Contributor)

So glad you put this up the same day I put together my latest order. In fact, if I had finished the order before we went out to dinner, I would have missed it. Yay cigar discount!

Andoran (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Cards Subscriber)

Sold!, nice surprise.

(UK shipping wasn't that bad $5.53)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Tales Subscriber)

Wildfire142 wrote:

Sold!, nice surprise.

(UK shipping wasn't that bad $5.53)

$5.53 for UK shipping?!?!?

Damn, the USPS is really ripping off the rest of Europe (and the rest of the world I'd wager).
Someone should tell them (the USPS) that those insane prices are costing a lot of American companies international sales, which I'm sure isn't exactly helping the current financial situation everywhere.


I think $5.53 is Standard Postal Delivery as it's the same to fin.


So does that mean that PFRPG is going back to the 3.5 ruleset, or that this is just meant to be a bit misleading?

Taldor (Pathfinder Campaign Setting Superscriber)

pres man wrote:
So does that mean that PFRPG is going back to the 3.5 ruleset, or that this is just meant to be a bit misleading?

Hmmm...

I am going to assume that is a rhetorical question. I'm trying hard to read it in a tone that is not snarky, but I'm struggling.

Don't dance around the issue, if you've got something to say: say it.

(Pathfinder Campaign Setting Superscriber)

OH..............hell yah!!!!

Must put order in today for this!!

thanks guys!!

RM

(Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

pres man wrote:
So does that mean that PFRPG is going back to the 3.5 ruleset, or that this is just meant to be a bit misleading?

Nah, it means its Pathfinder's version of 3.5

Duh ;)


GentleGiant wrote:
Wildfire142 wrote:

Sold!, nice surprise.

(UK shipping wasn't that bad $5.53)

$5.53 for UK shipping?!?!?

Damn, the USPS is really ripping off the rest of Europe (and the rest of the world I'd wager).
Someone should tell them (the USPS) that those insane prices are costing a lot of American companies international sales, which I'm sure isn't exactly helping the current financial situation everywhere.

Hey, count your lucky stars... it could take 3 months on a wooden sailing ship, weather permitting... Transporting a parcel of any size across the Atlantic for $5.53 is a relative bargain. :)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Tales Subscriber)

Michael Donovan wrote:
GentleGiant wrote:
Wildfire142 wrote:

Sold!, nice surprise.

(UK shipping wasn't that bad $5.53)

$5.53 for UK shipping?!?!?

Damn, the USPS is really ripping off the rest of Europe (and the rest of the world I'd wager).
Someone should tell them (the USPS) that those insane prices are costing a lot of American companies international sales, which I'm sure isn't exactly helping the current financial situation everywhere.

Hey, count your lucky stars... it could take 3 months on a wooden sailing ship, weather permitting... Transporting a parcel of any size across the Atlantic for $5.53 is a relative bargain. :)

Just to make sure I'm not misunderstood here:

I'd gladly pay $5.53 for the shipping, but when I put one of these bad boys in the shopping cart yesterday I got a shipping quote of $26.70! Hence my initial "outrage."
Don't know if that was a mistake, because I just ordered one again and this time around I got the $5.53 shipping quote. So, make mine a Paizo!

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Tales Subscriber)

I definately have to get this to hang in my game room(basement)!

I don't know if it Pathfinder excitement or what, but my local group is up to 7 players plus me DMing. I haven't had this much interest in the game in years.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber; GameMastery Superscriber)

Dark_Mistress wrote:
Question how big is it? I am assuming normal poster size, like you see in walmart and other places but thought I should check.
James Jacobs wrote:
It's 34" tall and 22" wide. Unless I did my math wrong. Which has been known to happen.

You did a Spinal Tap, and got your symbols wrong?

It's 34 feet by 24 feet, right?

Right?


Just checking, if I order 3 posters will they be shipped in the same tube

Thanks

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Well 3.0 and 3.5 where techincally different too but similar enough to be collective referred to as 3rd edition and close enough that products from one to the other was very simple to tweak and use.

Not speaking for Paizo but I think their point is PFRPG is close enough that you can use all the old 3.0 and 3.5 stuff with little work.

So I guess it depends on your point of view if the poster is or is not misleading. To me it isn't cause i can use the 3.5 products with it.


Talek Zindar wrote:

Just checking, if I order 3 posters will they be shipped in the same tube

Thanks

I believe they will, but hopefully either Vic or Gary will confirm. Gary had to write new code specifically for these posters. My understanding is that you can't combine them with other non-poster items, but that a number of the same posters will ship in the same poster tube. But since I didn't write the code, I could be wrong. :)

-Lisa


pres man wrote:
So does that mean that PFRPG is going back to the 3.5 ruleset, or that this is just meant to be a bit misleading?

Although I couldn't care less about the confusion it creates, I admit that the added text turned me off for buying it myself - it half ruins the great WAR illustration for me.

But then I can see why that's a good marketing move for a poster in a FLGS's window.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

The poster is a marketing device, aimed at fans of 3.5 who are disappointed that their favored game is no longer supported. Since Pathfinder is built from 3.5's SRD and is quite compatible with those rules, 3.5 lives on in Pathfinder and thus thrives AND survives. Since it's marketing... essentially a giant advertisement... the poster's goal is to get its point across fast and without cluttering up the art that much, which I think it does quite well.

It's not meant to be a full explanation as to what the Pathfinder Core RPG is, why it exists, and what's inside. That's the job of the game store owner, in theory, or of whoever put the poster up in the first place, I guess...


James Jacobs wrote:

The poster is a marketing device, aimed at fans of 3.5 who are disappointed that their favored game is no longer supported. Since Pathfinder is built from 3.5's SRD and is quite compatible with those rules, 3.5 lives on in Pathfinder and thus thrives AND survives. Since it's marketing... essentially a giant advertisement... the poster's goal is to get its point across fast and without cluttering up the art that much, which I think it does quite well.

It's not meant to be a full explanation as to what the Pathfinder Core RPG is, why it exists, and what's inside. That's the job of the game store owner, in theory, or of whoever put the poster up in the first place, I guess...

Ah, so the deal is it is "marketing" and we know how truth and marketing go hand in hand *wink, wink*. Got it.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

pres man wrote:
Ah, so the deal is it is "marketing" and we know how truth and marketing go hand in hand *wink, wink*. Got it.

I also have to wonder if anyone else is confused by the wording on the poster, or if you're simply awkwardly angling for a way to nitpick, to be honest.


James Jacobs wrote:


I also have to wonder if anyone else is confused by the wording on the poster, or if you're simply awkwardly angling for a way to nitpick, to be honest.

Some people just think they're clever, James.

Andoran (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16)

I think I'm clever. Oh, wait. That's not what you mean.


Some people just have a press ing need to get laid.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Tales Subscriber)

Le Cacahuète Galerie wrote:
Some people just need to get laid.

Will the poster help me with that?


Ours will !**


** No it won't but we could use your money.


Hank Woon wrote:


Some people just think they're clever, James.

Well, you can't mean me, because I know I'm clever.


Call it nitpicking if you want, but the sooner Pathfinder gets its own identity separate from 3.5 the better as far as I am concerned.

I already can’t say I play ‘D&D’ because that means 4th edition to most people. I thought I was safe when I said I play ‘3.5’, now I can’t even do that because people say 3.5 when they mean Pathfinder.

To be clear, I wish no ill will on Pathfinder, If Pathfinder is your game and it you enjoy it, I am happy for you. That said, if someone says they are playing ‘3.5’ I want to be able to show up with my 3.5 players handbook and play, not get weird looks and have people point to their Pathfinder books and say ‘oh, no we meant the *new* 3.5’.

Qadira (Paizo Charter Superscriber)

Tiger Tim wrote:
To be clear, I wish no ill will on Pathfinder, If Pathfinder is your game and it you enjoy it, I am happy for you. That said, if someone says they are playing ‘3.5’ I want to be able to show up with my 3.5 players handbook and play, not get weird looks and have people point to their Pathfinder books and say ‘oh, no we meant the *new* 3.5’.

I think that is pretty unlikely.

I've never seen anyone not be clear which d20 based system they are going to play, be it True 20, Conan RPG, Mutants & Masterminds, whatever. The only real difference is that PFRPG was designed to be compatible with the existing 3.5 source material. Something few, if any of the other varients do.

Gamers are pretty proud of their rules system of choice, as evidenced by the still common 3.5/4e friction in some places. I'm sure groups playing Pathfinder will be sure to lets folks know that you need not bring your PHB. (Of course in the end these are only my thoughts/opinions and what the hell do I know?)

Andoran (Paizo Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

I've been looking for a new poster and just couldn't find one I liked...

This is perfect, at a perfect time.

Ordered.

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Modules Subscriber)

pres man wrote:
So does that mean that PFRPG is going back to the 3.5 ruleset, or that this is just meant to be a bit misleading?

Pres Man, on the whole, you are a gadfly.

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Modules Subscriber)

James Jacobs wrote:
pres man wrote:
Ah, so the deal is it is "marketing" and we know how truth and marketing go hand in hand *wink, wink*. Got it.
I also have to wonder if anyone else is confused by the wording on the poster, or if you're simply awkwardly angling for a way to nitpick, to be honest.

James, quick reply. I shared this item with 8 players, and all understood the message, and were not confused.


James Jacobs wrote:
pres man wrote:
Ah, so the deal is it is "marketing" and we know how truth and marketing go hand in hand *wink, wink*. Got it.
I also have to wonder if anyone else is confused by the wording on the poster, or if you're simply awkwardly angling for a way to nitpick, to be honest.
Kruelaid wrote:
Although I couldn't care less about the confusion it creates, I admit that the added text turned me off for buying it myself - it half ruins the great WAR illustration for me.
Tiger Tim wrote:

Call it nitpicking if you want, but the sooner Pathfinder gets its own identity separate from 3.5 the better as far as I am concerned.

I already can’t say I play ‘D&D’ because that means 4th edition to most people. I thought I was safe when I said I play ‘3.5’, now I can’t even do that because people say 3.5 when they mean Pathfinder.

To be clear, I wish no ill will on Pathfinder, If Pathfinder is your game and it you enjoy it, I am happy for you. That said, if someone says they are playing ‘3.5’ I want to be able to show up with my 3.5 players handbook and play, not get weird looks and have people point to their Pathfinder books and say ‘oh, no we meant the *new* 3.5’.

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Modules Subscriber)

I am also ordering curtains and bedsheets with this launch poster on them.

Nice job, PAIZO. Well done!!!


Darkwolf wrote:
I think that is pretty unlikely

Darkwolf, for me this already happens. As a 3.5 fan, I look for 3.5 posts here. I have seen a fair number of Posts marked ‘Pathfinder/3.5’, 90% of the time a post says this, it means Pathfinder. For another example, there was a game posted as Pathfinder/3.5 in my area. I figured it meant Pathfinder but as it was listed with 3.5, I asked what game system was to be used (it was a new campaign, so I thought he may have been willing to go with either rules set based on the players that replied). It was for Pathfinder.

Now I know as a 3.5 player who is not a Pathfinder player, that makes me a fish out of water on this forum and things like the confusion above should be expected and I am OK with that, but with plans to market the Pathfinder as ‘3.5 thrives’ I expect Pathfinder = 3.5 to be more common.

Osirion (Paizo Charter Superscriber)

Tiger Tim wrote:
There was a game posted as Pathfinder/3.5 in my area. I figured it meant Pathfinder but as it was listed with 3.5, I asked what game system was to be used (it was a new campaign, so I thought he may have been willing to go with either rules set based on the players that replied). It was for Pathfinder.

I'm curious Tiger Tim, if a DM would be glad to have you in his Pathfinder game, playing a 3.5 character, what would be your reaction? I can certainly see plenty of reasons to turn it down, I'm just curious how you'd consider an offer like that.

I've run separate editions together before [1st and 3.5, 3.0 psionics & 3.5 psionics, etc.), so this is an option for me when I'm looking for players.

Qadira (Paizo Charter Superscriber)

Tiger Tim wrote:

Darkwolf, for me this already happens. As a 3.5 fan, I look for 3.5 posts here. I have seen a fair number of Posts marked ‘Pathfinder/3.5’, 90% of the time a post says this, it means Pathfinder. For another example, there was a game posted as Pathfinder/3.5 in my area. I figured it meant Pathfinder but as it was listed with 3.5, I asked what game system was to be used (it was a new campaign, so I thought he may have been willing to go with either rules set based on the players that replied). It was for Pathfinder.

Now I know as a 3.5 player who is not a Pathfinder player, that makes me a fish out of water on this forum and things like the confusion above should be expected and I am OK with that, but with plans to market the Pathfinder as ‘3.5 thrives’ I expect Pathfinder = 3.5 to be more common.

I don't think you are going to get away from that. One of the design goals was to be compatible with existing 3.5 supplements, so to me 'Pathfinder/3.5' says that "We will be using the PFRPG rules with 3.5 material available (subject to approval)". I think I understand your dilema, but I really don't think it is going to go away.

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