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Jam412, Tue, Apr 28, 2009, 05:38 PM

Any chance that we might see a dead tree version of this?

Dragnmoon (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Fiction Subscriber), Tue, Apr 28, 2009, 08:27 PM

Jam412 wrote:

Any chance that we might see a dead tree version of this?

what he said

Clinton Boomer (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor), Tue, Apr 28, 2009, 11:34 PM

Yo, guys,

A printed copy of the book is only as far away as HERE, at Lulu.com!

Now, it's a b&w interior copy, which means that you missing out on the amazing, full-color art by Joanna Barnum, Jonathan Hodgson, Michael Jaecks, Pat Loboyko and Hugo Solis - with a little luck, Open Design might offer a full-color printed copy!

Dragnmoon (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Fiction Subscriber), Tue, Apr 28, 2009, 11:59 PM

Clinton Boomer wrote:

Yo, guys,

A printed copy of the book is only as far away as HERE, at Lulu.com!

Now, it's a b&w interior copy, which means that you missing out on the amazing, full-color art by Joanna Barnum, Jonathan Hodgson, Michael Jaecks, Pat Loboyko and Hugo Solis - with a little luck, Open Design might offer a full-color printed copy!

Thanks but no thanks. I know you can get it here at Kobold Quarterly, but you need to use PayPal and I prefer using my CC, and the shipping is cheaper at Paizo.

Clinton Boomer (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 01:39 AM

Dragnmoon wrote:

Thanks but no thanks. I know you can get it here at Kobold Quarterly, but you need to use PayPal and I prefer using my CC, and the shipping is cheaper at Paizo.

Oh, dude, I hadn't even seen that! Thank you!

Is there a print version available through Paizo?

Sharoth (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 01:45 AM

Dragnmoon wrote:

Jam412 wrote:

Any chance that we might see a dead tree version of this?

what he said

As said by those above!

Tharen the Damned (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Fiction Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 02:11 AM

Want it in Full Color!

Hugo Solis (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:01 AM

There is a lot of amazing artwork on this one (not counting mine...) so I'd recommend going for the PDF for color!

Wolfgang Baur (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:19 AM

I'm not sure I understand the CC/PayPal comment above. All PayPal transactions support a credit card instead. Just select the "Credit Card" option rather than "PayPal" when it asks you how you want to fund the order.

I appreciate that people like the art, but a full color version would be very expensive. I'll willing to put a color version on Lulu, but ... Well, we'll see how it does.

Richard Pett (Contributor), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:29 AM

Gosh, I never thought I'd say this, but Logue's ecology is absolutely brilliant - worth the price alone I'd say.

Huzzah!

Now stop reading my drivel and get yourselves into the heads of liches and other foulness!

Rich

Dragnmoon (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Fiction Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:33 AM

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

I'm not sure I understand the CC/PayPal comment above. All PayPal transactions support a credit card instead. Just select the "Credit Card" option rather than "PayPal" when it asks you how you want to fund the order.

I appreciate that people like the art, but a full color version would be very expensive. I'll willing to put a color version on Lulu, but ... Well, we'll see how it does.

I have a thing about using Paypal, will use it, just don't like it.....too long to go into it, but it is more about your shipping costs.. that is way overcharging. shipping should not be that high

And..wait the hard cover version on your site is not Color? If so, please mention that in the store, no where does it say it is only B/W, *Not that I saw*

Heathansson, Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:34 AM

Who are you, and what'd you do with Mr. Pett? Don't think I won't come over there!!!

Richard Pett (Contributor), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:37 AM

Heathansson wrote:

Who are you, and what'd you do with Mr. Pett? Don't think I won't come over there!!!

Help me heathy! Someone's taken over my body...

Richard Pett (Contributor), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:37 AM

No they haven't, sorry.

Dragnmoon (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Fiction Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:41 AM

Richard Pett wrote:

No they haven't, sorry.

who has not done what?

Heathansson, Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:43 AM

Richard Pett wrote:

Heathansson wrote:

Who are you, and what'd you do with Mr. Pett? Don't think I won't come over there!!!

Help me heathy! Someone's taken over my body...

Sorry, Sir; Britannia'll quarantine me for 6 months, being a dog and all...you're on your own.

DitheringFool (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Cards Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 09:59 AM

Could someone explain to me what "3E/OGL and 4E" means? Does each article duel stat or are some of the articles completely worthless to me?

Ross Byers (Assistant Software Developer), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 10:17 AM

DitheringFool wrote:

Could someone explain to me what "3E/OGL and 4E" means? Does each article duel stat or are some of the articles completely worthless to me?

IIRC, all the articles are 3.5, except Centaur (which is 4e) and Maenad (Dual statted.)

However, the fluff in all the articles (which is most of the text) is system-free.

Montalve (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Planet Stories Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 10:23 AM

i hate... i hate you all...

i am not supposed to use my credit card, except for emergencies...

by the way,... i love the color art

Ross Byers (Assistant Software Developer), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 10:30 AM

I think the item description for this needs to have a list of the articles in it:

The Ecology of the Barghest by Nicolas Logue
The Ecology of the Centaur by Wolfgang Baur
The Ecology of the Cloaker by Paul Leach
The Ecology of the Derro by Wolfgang Baur
->The Ecology of the Golem by Ross Byers<-
The Ecology of the Half-Giant by Clinton Boomer
The Ecology of the Homunculus by Joshua Stevens
The Ecology of the Lich by Richard Pett
The Ecology of the Maenar by Matthew Hanson
The Ecology of the Phantom Fungus by Scott Gable
The Ecology of the Retriever by Matthew Banach & Clinton J. Boomer
The Ecology of the Revenant by Joshua Stevens

Also, that's a placeholder cover. The real one has my name on it.

Montalve (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Planet Stories Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 10:50 AM

Ross Byers wrote:

I think the item description for this needs to have a list of the articles in it:

The Ecology of the Barghest by Nicolas Logue
The Ecology of the Centaur by Wolfgang Baur
The Ecology of the Cloaker by Paul Leach
The Ecology of the Derro by Wolfgang Baur
->The Ecology of the Golem by Ross Byers<-
The Ecology of the Half-Giant by Clinton Boomer
The Ecology of the Homunculus by Joshua Stevens
The Ecology of the Lich by Richard Pett
The Ecology of the Maenar by Matthew Hanson
The Ecology of the Phantom Fungus by Scott Gable
The Ecology of the Retriever by Matthew Banach & Clinton J. Boomer
The Ecology of the Revenant by Joshua Stevens

Also, that's a placeholder cover. The real one has my name on it.

I agree this might be useful for decision's taking... Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P

hey Ross... the book has marked that the Lich is from Nicolas Logue, no Mr. Pett... at least in the index... ohh ok both article and back cover have Richard Pett...

Wolfgang Baur (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 02:40 PM

Somebody asked for the print edition to have color chapter heads. It's now available, but.... Well, there's a reason I went for a B&W interior.

Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 02:58 PM

Ross Byers wrote:

I think the item description for this needs to have a list of the articles in it:

The Ecology of the Barghest by Nicolas Logue
The Ecology of the Centaur by Wolfgang Baur
The Ecology of the Cloaker by Paul Leach
The Ecology of the Derro by Wolfgang Baur
->The Ecology of the Golem by Ross Byers<-
The Ecology of the Half-Giant by Clinton Boomer
The Ecology of the Homunculus by Joshua Stevens
The Ecology of the Lich by Richard Pett
The Ecology of the Maenar by Matthew Hanson
The Ecology of the Phantom Fungus by Scott Gable
The Ecology of the Retriever by Matthew Banach & Clinton J. Boomer
The Ecology of the Revenant by Joshua Stevens

Also, that's a placeholder cover. The real one has my name on it.

Thanks! Added to description, and updated cover.

varianor (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 03:46 PM

Montalve wrote:

Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P

What are the changes between centaurs in 3.5 and Pathfinder? Or even monsters in general?

Montalve (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Planet Stories Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 03:48 PM

varianor wrote:

Montalve wrote:

Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P

What are the changes between centaurs in 3.5 and Pathfinder? Or even monsters in general?

he wrote it as a race for players, not as monster
can't people understand sarcasm?

Mairkurion {tm} (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 04:15 PM

Montalve wrote:

Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P

Thanks for this, Montalve. I thought I was a pain-in-the-rear complainer, but seeing that you consign people to flames of endless woe really makes me feel better about myself.

Montalve (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Planet Stories Subscriber), Wed, Apr 29, 2009, 04:30 PM

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Montalve wrote:

Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P

Thanks for this, Montalve. I thought I was a pain-in-the-rear complainer, but seeing that you consign people to flames of endless woe really makes me feel better about myself.

hey I might actually being doing him a favor... they say the party is on hell! if you believe the Thrune of course

Wolfgang Baur (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly), Thu, Apr 30, 2009, 12:17 PM

It will be available in print from Paizo in a week or so. Right now it's just at KQ.com and at Lulu.

Jam412, Thu, Apr 30, 2009, 01:23 PM

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

It will be available in print from Paizo in a week or so. Right now it's just at KQ.com and at Lulu.

Great. Thanks Wolf.

Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Thu, Apr 30, 2009, 06:41 PM

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

It will be available in print from Paizo in a week or so. Right now it's just at KQ.com and at Lulu.

Keen! And so the print edition is now available for preorder!

Richard Pett (Contributor), Fri, May 1, 2009, 04:39 AM

Vic Wertz wrote:

Ross Byers wrote:

I think the item description for this needs to have a list of the articles in it:

The Ecology of the Barghest by Nicolas Logue
The Ecology of the Centaur by Wolfgang Baur
The Ecology of the Cloaker by Paul Leach
The Ecology of the Derro by Wolfgang Baur
->The Ecology of the Golem by Ross Byers<-
The Ecology of the Half-Giant by Clinton Boomer
The Ecology of the Homunculus by Joshua Stevens
The Ecology of the Lich by Richard Pett
The Ecology of the Maenar by Matthew Hanson
The Ecology of the Phantom Fungus by Scott Gable
The Ecology of the Retriever by Matthew Banach & Clinton J. Boomer
The Ecology of the Revenant by Joshua Stevens

Also, that's a placeholder cover. The real one has my name on it.

Thanks! Added to description, and updated cover.

Just to make something clear.

Despite what Wolfgang may say publicly, it seems to be generally accepted in various places that, in the end, the lich was everyone's favorite.

Huzzah.
Rich

Wolf Munroe (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, May 1, 2009, 04:27 PM

So, just to be clear, the print version is black and white from any source, right?

Saint_Meerkat, Sat, May 2, 2009, 08:52 AM

Is there any chance of a better deal on the PDF for the people who buy the dead tree version? At that price point, I feel like I'm buying it twice.

Wolfgang Baur (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly), Sat, May 2, 2009, 08:53 AM

Wolf Munroe wrote:

So, just to be clear, the print version is black and white from any source, right?

Actually, due to requests on this thread, the print version from Lulu is available in color on demand.

However, the prices Lulu charge make me think demand will be modest for that edition.

Wolfgang Baur (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly), Sat, May 2, 2009, 08:54 AM

Saint_Meerkat wrote:

Is there any chance of a better deal on the PDF for the people who buy the dead tree version? At that price point, I feel like I'm buying it twice.

I need to talk to Vic about that again. At the moment, there isn't an option like that, but I'd like to set one up eventually.

Sharoth (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Fiction, Planet Stories Subscriber), Sat, May 2, 2009, 09:10 AM

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

Wolf Munroe wrote:

So, just to be clear, the print version is black and white from any source, right?

Actually, due to requests on this thread, the print version from Lulu is available in color on demand.

However, the prices Lulu charge make me think demand will be modest for that edition.

~wistles~ I think you are right, Wolfgang. That price is a bit... exorbant. ~shrugs~ OTOH, if I actually had the money to spare, I might just buy it anyway!

Wolfgang Baur (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly), Sun, May 3, 2009, 10:41 AM

Sometimes I think I actually know what I'm doing as a publisher. Making the printer edition of Ecologies B&W is one of those times...

I hope that Volume 1 does well enough that Volume 2 is full-color throughout, of course!

joela, Sun, May 3, 2009, 11:06 AM

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

It will be available in print from Paizo in a week or so. Right now it's just at KQ.com and at Lulu.

Will FLGS be eventually able to special order it?

Wolf Munroe (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; GameMastery Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Sun, May 3, 2009, 11:37 AM

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

Actually, due to requests on this thread, the print version from Lulu is available in color on demand.

However, the prices Lulu charge make me think demand will be modest for that edition.

Yeah, I think demand will be modest for that version too. Mercy.

Wolfgang Baur (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly), Sun, May 3, 2009, 01:19 PM

joela wrote:

Will FLGS be eventually able to special order it?

I doubt it. I'm in discussions with a distributor for it, but... Unlikely.

Graig Harvey, Sun, May 3, 2009, 03:47 PM

Dragnmoon wrote:

I have a thing about using Paypal, will use it, just don't like it.....too long to go into it, but it is more about your shipping costs.. that is way overcharging. shipping should not be that high

I got PayPal when it first became available, years ago, and one of the first things they did was steal money from my bank account and overdraw me.

Has anyone ever seen the Role Aids supplement "Dark Folk?" I'm not sure how similar it is to this product, but it was pretty good and got into the ecology, history, religion, culture, laws, etc of races such as kobolds, orc, trolls, and so forth.