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Any chance that we might see a dead tree version of this?

Andoran (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Jam412 wrote:
Any chance that we might see a dead tree version of this?

what he said

Cheliax (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Yo, guys,

A printed copy of the book is only as far away as HERE, at Lulu.com!

Now, it's a b&w interior copy, which means that you missing out on the amazing, full-color art by Joanna Barnum, Jonathan Hodgson, Michael Jaecks, Pat Loboyko and Hugo Solis - with a little luck, Open Design might offer a full-color printed copy!

Andoran (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Clinton Boomer wrote:

Yo, guys,

A printed copy of the book is only as far away as HERE, at Lulu.com!

Now, it's a b&w interior copy, which means that you missing out on the amazing, full-color art by Joanna Barnum, Jonathan Hodgson, Michael Jaecks, Pat Loboyko and Hugo Solis - with a little luck, Open Design might offer a full-color printed copy!

Thanks but no thanks. I know you can get it here at Kobold Quarterly, but you need to use PayPal and I prefer using my CC, and the shipping is cheaper at Paizo.

Cheliax (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Contributor)

Dragnmoon wrote:
Thanks but no thanks. I know you can get it here at Kobold Quarterly, but you need to use PayPal and I prefer using my CC, and the shipping is cheaper at Paizo.

Oh, dude, I hadn't even seen that! Thank you!

Is there a print version available through Paizo?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Dragnmoon wrote:
Jam412 wrote:
Any chance that we might see a dead tree version of this?
what he said

As said by those above!

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Want it in Full Color!

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

There is a lot of amazing artwork on this one (not counting mine...) so I'd recommend going for the PDF for color!

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

I'm not sure I understand the CC/PayPal comment above. All PayPal transactions support a credit card instead. Just select the "Credit Card" option rather than "PayPal" when it asks you how you want to fund the order.

I appreciate that people like the art, but a full color version would be very expensive. I'll willing to put a color version on Lulu, but ... Well, we'll see how it does.


Gosh, I never thought I'd say this, but Logue's ecology is absolutely brilliant - worth the price alone I'd say.

Huzzah!

Now stop reading my drivel and get yourselves into the heads of liches and other foulness!

Rich

Andoran (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

I'm not sure I understand the CC/PayPal comment above. All PayPal transactions support a credit card instead. Just select the "Credit Card" option rather than "PayPal" when it asks you how you want to fund the order.

I appreciate that people like the art, but a full color version would be very expensive. I'll willing to put a color version on Lulu, but ... Well, we'll see how it does.

I have a thing about using Paypal, will use it, just don't like it.....too long to go into it, but it is more about your shipping costs.. that is way overcharging. shipping should not be that high

And..wait the hard cover version on your site is not Color? If so, please mention that in the store, no where does it say it is only B/W, *Not that I saw*


Who are you, and what'd you do with Mr. Pett? Don't think I won't come over there!!!


Heathansson wrote:
Who are you, and what'd you do with Mr. Pett? Don't think I won't come over there!!!

Help me heathy! Someone's taken over my body...


No they haven't, sorry.

Andoran (Paizo Charter Superscriber, Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Richard Pett wrote:
No they haven't, sorry.

who has not done what?


Richard Pett wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Who are you, and what'd you do with Mr. Pett? Don't think I won't come over there!!!
Help me heathy! Someone's taken over my body...

Sorry, Sir; Britannia'll quarantine me for 6 months, being a dog and all...you're on your own.

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, GameMastery Cards Subscriber)

Could someone explain to me what "3E/OGL and 4E" means? Does each article duel stat or are some of the articles completely worthless to me?

Paizo Employee (Assistant Software Developer)

DitheringFool wrote:
Could someone explain to me what "3E/OGL and 4E" means? Does each article duel stat or are some of the articles completely worthless to me?

IIRC, all the articles are 3.5, except Centaur (which is 4e) and Maenad (Dual statted.)

However, the fluff in all the articles (which is most of the text) is system-free.


i hate... i hate you all...

i am not supposed to use my credit card, except for emergencies...

by the way,... i love the color art

Paizo Employee (Assistant Software Developer)

I think the item description for this needs to have a list of the articles in it:

The Ecology of the Barghest by Nicolas Logue
The Ecology of the Centaur by Wolfgang Baur
The Ecology of the Cloaker by Paul Leach
The Ecology of the Derro by Wolfgang Baur
->The Ecology of the Golem by Ross Byers<-
The Ecology of the Half-Giant by Clinton Boomer
The Ecology of the Homunculus by Joshua Stevens
The Ecology of the Lich by Richard Pett
The Ecology of the Maenar by Matthew Hanson
The Ecology of the Phantom Fungus by Scott Gable
The Ecology of the Retriever by Matthew Banach & Clinton J. Boomer
The Ecology of the Revenant by Joshua Stevens

Also, that's a placeholder cover. The real one has my name on it.


Ross Byers wrote:

I think the item description for this needs to have a list of the articles in it:

The Ecology of the Barghest by Nicolas Logue
The Ecology of the Centaur by Wolfgang Baur
The Ecology of the Cloaker by Paul Leach
The Ecology of the Derro by Wolfgang Baur
->The Ecology of the Golem by Ross Byers<-
The Ecology of the Half-Giant by Clinton Boomer
The Ecology of the Homunculus by Joshua Stevens
The Ecology of the Lich by Richard Pett
The Ecology of the Maenar by Matthew Hanson
The Ecology of the Phantom Fungus by Scott Gable
The Ecology of the Retriever by Matthew Banach & Clinton J. Boomer
The Ecology of the Revenant by Joshua Stevens

Also, that's a placeholder cover. The real one has my name on it.

I agree this might be useful for decision's taking... Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P

hey Ross... the book has marked that the Lich is from Nicolas Logue, no Mr. Pett... at least in the index... ohh ok both article and back cover have Richard Pett...

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

Somebody asked for the print edition to have color chapter heads. It's now available, but.... Well, there's a reason I went for a B&W interior.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Ross Byers wrote:

I think the item description for this needs to have a list of the articles in it:

The Ecology of the Barghest by Nicolas Logue
The Ecology of the Centaur by Wolfgang Baur
The Ecology of the Cloaker by Paul Leach
The Ecology of the Derro by Wolfgang Baur
->The Ecology of the Golem by Ross Byers<-
The Ecology of the Half-Giant by Clinton Boomer
The Ecology of the Homunculus by Joshua Stevens
The Ecology of the Lich by Richard Pett
The Ecology of the Maenar by Matthew Hanson
The Ecology of the Phantom Fungus by Scott Gable
The Ecology of the Retriever by Matthew Banach & Clinton J. Boomer
The Ecology of the Revenant by Joshua Stevens

Also, that's a placeholder cover. The real one has my name on it.

Thanks! Added to description, and updated cover.


Montalve wrote:
Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P

What are the changes between centaurs in 3.5 and Pathfinder? Or even monsters in general?


varianor wrote:
Montalve wrote:
Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P
What are the changes between centaurs in 3.5 and Pathfinder? Or even monsters in general?

he wrote it as a race for players, not as monster

can't people understand sarcasm?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

Montalve wrote:
Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P

Thanks for this, Montalve. I thought I was a pain-in-the-rear complainer, but seeing that you consign people to flames of endless woe really makes me feel better about myself.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Montalve wrote:
Wolfgang... you should have given u a version of the Centaur for Pathfinder :P you will burn in hell for not doing that :P
Thanks for this, Montalve. I thought I was a pain-in-the-rear complainer, but seeing that you consign people to flames of endless woe really makes me feel better about myself.

hey I might actually being doing him a favor... they say the party is on hell! if you believe the Thrune of course

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

It will be available in print from Paizo in a week or so. Right now it's just at KQ.com and at Lulu.


Wolfgang Baur wrote:
It will be available in print from Paizo in a week or so. Right now it's just at KQ.com and at Lulu.

Great. Thanks Wolf.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Wolfgang Baur wrote:
It will be available in print from Paizo in a week or so. Right now it's just at KQ.com and at Lulu.

Keen! And so the print edition is now available for preorder!


Vic Wertz wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:

I think the item description for this needs to have a list of the articles in it:

The Ecology of the Barghest by Nicolas Logue
The Ecology of the Centaur by Wolfgang Baur
The Ecology of the Cloaker by Paul Leach
The Ecology of the Derro by Wolfgang Baur
->The Ecology of the Golem by Ross Byers<-
The Ecology of the Half-Giant by Clinton Boomer
The Ecology of the Homunculus by Joshua Stevens
The Ecology of the Lich by Richard Pett
The Ecology of the Maenar by Matthew Hanson
The Ecology of the Phantom Fungus by Scott Gable
The Ecology of the Retriever by Matthew Banach & Clinton J. Boomer
The Ecology of the Revenant by Joshua Stevens

Also, that's a placeholder cover. The real one has my name on it.

Thanks! Added to description, and updated cover.

Just to make something clear.

Despite what Wolfgang may say publicly, it seems to be generally accepted in various places that, in the end, the lich was everyone's favorite.

Huzzah.
Rich

(Paizo Superscriber)

So, just to be clear, the print version is black and white from any source, right?

Andoran (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting Subscriber)

Is there any chance of a better deal on the PDF for the people who buy the dead tree version? At that price point, I feel like I'm buying it twice.

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

Wolf Munroe wrote:
So, just to be clear, the print version is black and white from any source, right?

Actually, due to requests on this thread, the print version from Lulu is available in color on demand.

However, the prices Lulu charge make me think demand will be modest for that edition.

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

Saint_Meerkat wrote:
Is there any chance of a better deal on the PDF for the people who buy the dead tree version? At that price point, I feel like I'm buying it twice.

I need to talk to Vic about that again. At the moment, there isn't an option like that, but I'd like to set one up eventually.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Wolfgang Baur wrote:
Wolf Munroe wrote:
So, just to be clear, the print version is black and white from any source, right?

Actually, due to requests on this thread, the print version from Lulu is available in color on demand.

However, the prices Lulu charge make me think demand will be modest for that edition.

~wistles~ I think you are right, Wolfgang. That price is a bit... exorbant. ~shrugs~ OTOH, if I actually had the money to spare, I might just buy it anyway!

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

Sometimes I think I actually know what I'm doing as a publisher. Making the printer edition of Ecologies B&W is one of those times...

I hope that Volume 1 does well enough that Volume 2 is full-color throughout, of course!


Wolfgang Baur wrote:
It will be available in print from Paizo in a week or so. Right now it's just at KQ.com and at Lulu.

Will FLGS be eventually able to special order it?

(Paizo Superscriber)

Wolfgang Baur wrote:

Actually, due to requests on this thread, the print version from Lulu is available in color on demand.

However, the prices Lulu charge make me think demand will be modest for that edition.

Yeah, I think demand will be modest for that version too. Mercy.

Qadira (Contributor; Publisher, Kobold Quarterly)

joela wrote:
Will FLGS be eventually able to special order it?

I doubt it. I'm in discussions with a distributor for it, but... Unlikely.


Dragnmoon wrote:
I have a thing about using Paypal, will use it, just don't like it.....too long to go into it, but it is more about your shipping costs.. that is way overcharging. shipping should not be that high

I got PayPal when it first became available, years ago, and one of the first things they did was steal money from my bank account and overdraw me.

Has anyone ever seen the Role Aids supplement "Dark Folk?" I'm not sure how similar it is to this product, but it was pretty good and got into the ecology, history, religion, culture, laws, etc of races such as kobolds, orc, trolls, and so forth.


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