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This sounds so awesome! I worry that it may be too much planes-hopping, and players might get disoriented ("If it's Tuesday, this must be Kastrovel") but Wolfgang Bauer writing the city of Brass? Awesome!

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

City of Brass! This sounds pretty incredible...


Agreed! This sounds like a killer-"issue"!

Silver Crusade (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

Are you guys going to use Necromancer Games "City of Brass" supplement for this one ? Or perhaps make it so we can incorporate it ?

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Gorbacz wrote:
Are you guys going to use Necromancer Games "City of Brass" supplement for this one ? Or perhaps make it so we can incorporate it ?

There is a thread somewhere on the boards discusing this.

Necros Cob is one of the best city supplements I ever saw. This product oozes 1st edtion flair.
That said, it is also an expensive and big product. And you can not expect DMs to buy it to be able to play the AP. Therefore they won't use it. But they ceratinly will have a look at it an probably provide idea how to use the Necro version instead of the Paizo version.

(Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games)

Since I don't have Wolfgang's (yet-to-be-written) version of the City of Brass, I will be relying primarily on the Necromancer Games CoB (which I do have) for my inspiration about the city...well, that and the back cover of the 1e DMG (love that art). That said, the adventure is fairly self-contained so that it won't really involve much outside the palace itself. My main goal is to make sure I don't contradict anything in NG's CoB so if a DM chooses to take his game out into the city proper (certainly an option if he so chooses) he can use either the Wolfgang version that will appear in this Pathfinder, the NG CoB, or a combination of both as he sees fit. Ideally, I think, Wolfgang's version would mesh pretty well with the CoB version (which really leaves a lot of room for interpretation in true 1e fashion), but I don't know what he has in mind, and I leave those decisions up to the esteemed Mr. Baur, master of all things Arabian in the game.


Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
Since I don't have Wolfgang's (yet-to-be-written) version of the City of Brass, I will be relying primarily on the Necromancer Games CoB (which I do have) for my inspiration about the city...well, that and the back cover of the 1e DMG (love that art). That said, the adventure is fairly self-contained so that it won't really involve much outside the palace itself. My main goal is to make sure I don't contradict anything in NG's CoB so if a DM chooses to take his game out into the city proper (certainly an option if he so chooses) he can use either the Wolfgang version that will appear in this Pathfinder, the NG CoB, or a combination of both as he sees fit. Ideally, I think, Wolfgang's version would mesh pretty well with the CoB version (which really leaves a lot of room for interpretation in true 1e fashion), but I don't know what he has in mind, and I leave those decisions up to the esteemed Mr. Baur, master of all things Arabian in the game.

Greg, we should chat over email about the CoB at some point to make sure whatever we mutually write about the city meshes. Granted, I won't have the word count in TGB to do more than a brief overview of the CoB, while Wolfgang will be doing the full sized article on it.

Grand Lodge (Pathfinder Superscriber)

Well, since Mr. Baur did the original 2nd Edition: "Secrets of the Lamp" for the Al-Qadim setting (one of my personal favorites), this new Pathfinder version of the city should be nothing short of spectacular...

-That One Digitalelf Fellow-

(Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games)

Todd Stewart wrote:
Greg, we should chat over email about the CoB at some point to make sure whatever we mutually write about the city meshes. Granted, I won't have the word count in TGB to do more than a brief overview of the CoB, while Wolfgang will be doing the full sized article on it.

Agreed. Shoot James an e-mail to give you my address. I'm working on the adventure now, and input at this point would be good.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

Digitalelf wrote:

Well, since Mr. Baur did the original 2nd Edition: "Secrets of the Lamp" for the Al-Qadim setting (one of my personal favorites), this new Pathfinder version of the city should be nothing short of spectacular...

-That One Digitalelf Fellow-

"In the City of Brass" is one of the best adventures I've ever run. I still remember the race through the Midan and Captain Soot. Can't wait to see how Mr.Baur resets this and what Paizo will do with the CoB!

Andoran (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Modules Subscriber)

To be able to mesh Necro's CoB and Paizo's would be awesome. I would like to see some overlap.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Just curious if those are the finalized covers. I love it when old characters make comebacks. It makes me (and my players) smile.


GreatKhanArtist wrote:
Just curious if those are the finalized covers. I love it when old characters make comebacks. It makes me (and my players) smile.

Only the first one seems to be finalized, others are just placeholders.

Taldor (Pathfinder Campaign Setting Superscriber)

Has Paizo stopped stocking Necromancer's City Of Brass? I wanted to get it before getting into Legacy Of Fire.

Qadira (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting Subscriber)

GeraintElberion wrote:
Has Paizo stopped stocking Necromancer's City Of Brass? I wanted to get it before getting into Legacy Of Fire.

CoB has been OOP for a while now, I think. Check on Amazon or eBay for unsold or used copies.

No, you can't have mine. ;-)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Woot!!! I just ordered Necromancer's City of Brass box set from Amazon.com. Yay!

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Salama wrote:
GreatKhanArtist wrote:
Just curious if those are the finalized covers. I love it when old characters make comebacks. It makes me (and my players) smile.
Only the first one seems to be finalized, others are just placeholders.

You are correct—as of today, Pathfinders 20 and up have placeholder covers.

(Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games)

Mr Baron wrote:
To be able to mesh Necro's CoB and Paizo's would be awesome. I would like to see some overlap.

I am writing the adventure to be compatible with Necro's CoB but not insofar as one must have the boxed set to use it. Wolfgang is writing the actual City of Brass entry, so he and I have corresponded to make sure I am consistent with his as well. Basically, the adventure is set in Pathfinder's City of Brass but you should be able to use it with Necro's City of Brass with minimal effort.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
Mr Baron wrote:
To be able to mesh Necro's CoB and Paizo's would be awesome. I would like to see some overlap.
I am writing the adventure to be compatible with Necro's CoB but not insofar as one must have the boxed set to use it. Wolfgang is writing the actual City of Brass entry, so he and I have corresponded to make sure I am consistent with his as well. Basically, the adventure is set in Pathfinder's City of Brass but you should be able to use it with Necro's City of Brass with minimal effort.

I too would like to be able to mesh the two CoB's together. I figure if I spent $60, then I should use the material. Granted, that should be optional, but please include at least some notes as to how to incorperate the two together, if only just on the messageboards.

(Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games)

I hear what you're saying, Sharoth; I bought the boxed set, too. :-)Ideally such notes shouldn't even be necessary. I'm hoping you'll just be able to take the adventure and plop it into Necro's boxed set and you're good to go. Of course, final editing, Wolfgang's article, etc. will ultimately determine all that stuff, so we can take a look at it and figure out what sort of compatability notes might be helpful. That is my goal as well, so I think we ought to be able to make it work just fine.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
I hear what you're saying, Sharoth; I bought the boxed set, too. :-)Ideally such notes shouldn't even be necessary. I'm hoping you'll just be able to take the adventure and plop it into Necro's boxed set and you're good to go. Of course, final editing, Wolfgang's article, etc. will ultimately determine all that stuff, so we can take a look at it and figure out what sort of compatability notes might be helpful. That is my goal as well, so I think we ought to be able to make it work just fine.

Good! I am glad to hear that. Now that you have accepted my challenge, I have several others... ~starts to unroll a LONG scroll~ ...that I think you should look at? ~notices you glaring at me~ What? ~more glares and a frown of disaproval from you~ What? There isn't that much on this scroll of challenges! Honest!

(Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games)

Picks up the gauntlet and throws it at Sharoth.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
Picks up the gauntlet and throws it at Sharoth.

~Greg's thrown gauntlet hits me in the face and knocks me out~ Ooohhhhhhh! ~thump~

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Sharoth wrote:
Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
Picks up the gauntlet and throws it at Sharoth.
~Greg's thrown gauntlet hits me in the face and knocks me out~ Ooohhhhhhh! ~thump~

Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! Sharoth is being repressed!

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

It's only a flesh wound!

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

~gives a pitiful look~ Please send a donation to the Save Sharoth fund. All donations are accepted. We prefer gold coins or gems if possible.


I didn't spot the "city of brass" bit until I recalled the podcast mentioned a while ago on the Paizo blog and listened to it yesterday. This AP gets to be the one where I'm the player and not the DM, and I look forward to playing and traveling to the city of brass with tremendous anticipation and excitement.

Part of the sheer thrill of D&D for me was the chance to step away from the prime and sojourn to realms only dreamed of. I've always wanted as a player to go to this city, but no DM would let me. I've waited perhaps 17 years for it.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

DarkArt wrote:

I didn't spot the "city of brass" bit until I recalled the podcast mentioned a while ago on the Paizo blog and listened to it yesterday. This AP gets to be the one where I'm the player and not the DM, and I look forward to playing and traveling to the city of brass with tremendous anticipation and excitement.

Part of the sheer thrill of D&D for me was the chance to step away from the prime and sojourn to realms only dreamed of. I've always wanted as a player to go to this city, but no DM would let me. I've waited perhaps 17 years for it.

Hey DarkArt. I have seen the City of Brass Boxed set for sale on E-Bay. Just letting you know.

(Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games)

DarkArt wrote:

I didn't spot the "city of brass" bit until I recalled the podcast mentioned a while ago on the Paizo blog and listened to it yesterday. This AP gets to be the one where I'm the player and not the DM, and I look forward to playing and traveling to the city of brass with tremendous anticipation and excitement.

Part of the sheer thrill of D&D for me was the chance to step away from the prime and sojourn to realms only dreamed of. I've always wanted as a player to go to this city, but no DM would let me. I've waited perhaps 17 years for it.

Just to be clear on this, because I totally know where you're coming from on this. The adventure doesn't extensively explore the City of Brass. In fact it takes place entirely in one citadel within the City of Brass. Of course it does have extensive City-of-Brass flavor. However, it does present the option if the DM wishes to expand the adventure much farther out into the City of Brass if he/she wishes using either Wolfgang's City of Brass article or the NG City of Brass boxed set, or whatever other source material they may want to use. I just don't want to mislead anyone into thinking this adventure is a grand exploration of the city itself. The city itself is hugemongous! The adventure DOES provide a grand exploration of one noble's citadel in the City of Brass, which is also fairly hugemongous if I do say so myself.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

When should we expect the real cover art for this one?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Check out todays blog! It's close!

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

How did I miss that? Awesome artwork.

Andoran (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Modules Subscriber)

When are we going to see the updated cover art. I know a preview was posted on the blog, but when are we going to see it on the cover?

Grand Lodge (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Ok, we have a preview for artwork on the inside but no new cover art?

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

brent norton wrote:
Ok, we have a preview for artwork on the inside but no new cover art?

Yah...what Brent said! No updated cover?

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Hopefully soon, I mean its out next month. I imagine they maight be waiting for it and #24's covers to be done to go up together.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

The cover will be updated soon.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

James Jacobs wrote:
The cover will be updated soon.

The cover and product text have been updated to match the finished product. If you see a dude instead of a chick, clear your browser's image cache (well... either that or it might be time to stop drinking for the day).

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
The cover will be updated soon.
The cover and product text have been updated to match the finished product. If you see a dude instead of a chick, clear your browser's image cache (well... either that or it might be time to stop drinking for the day).

~sets down my sweet tea~ Ok. I think I have had enough humming bird food for the day.

~grins~

Yes, I do see the chick. Pardon the snarky comment!

Qadira (Pathfinder Superscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
The cover will be updated soon.
The cover and product text have been updated to match the finished product. If you see a dude instead of a chick, clear your browser's image cache (well... either that or it might be time to stop drinking for the day).

I haven't been drinking and i don't see poultry or a dude...

;)

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Hello... NPC marid hottie? I think we have a winner there, folks.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

That makes the PF #22 girl a shaitan I ken, one of each genie has been on the corner. Though thaat would make two djinni, if LoF #3's guy and Nefeshti are both djinni, or did it just credit her as a genie?

Mayne not...?

Well she's a marid, and I expect an efreet on the final cover.

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

vagrant-poet wrote:

That makes the PF #22 girl a shaitan I ken, one of each genie has been on the corner. Though thaat would make two djinni, if LoF #3's guy and Nefeshti are both djinni, or did it just credit her as a genie?

Mayne not...?

Well she's a marid, and I expect an efreet on the final cover.

The genies on the cover break down thusly: Pathfinder #21 = djinni, 22 = shaitan, 23 = marid, and 24 = efreeti. The djinni on #21 is a generic djinni, but the other three represent specific genies in the adventure path.


AP 23 wrote:
# A fearful look into the savage cult of Rovagug, the imprisoned god of wrath, disaster, and destruction, by Sean K Reynolds

Sold! I absolutely love Rovagug. I really like how the adventure path books have information that's useful/interesting even if you don't plan on running the AP in the near future.


I have to admit, all this genie art has been spoiling me(and has been since before Legacy of Fire!). I don't want it to stop even when Council of Thieves starts.

Awesome cover.

Qadira (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

Wolfgang for the win. Can't wait to see this.

(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path Subscriber)

We're closing in on June, and my anticipation is building again. I can't be the only one wondering if this will ship the first week, or later. Is there an ETA on this yet? Please?

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Gray wrote:
We're closing in on June, and my anticipation is building again. I can't be the only one wondering if this will ship the first week, or later. Is there an ETA on this yet? Please?

If you check the schedule page, you'll see it's currently listed for late June.

Andoran (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)

I just hope this typo was caught before it went to the printers.


Mikaze wrote:

I have to admit, all this genie art has been spoiling me(and has been since before Legacy of Fire!). I don't want it to stop even when Council of Thieves starts.

Awesome cover.

I know right?

I hope they can get this Jesper Ejsing guy to keep doing covers.

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