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William Edmunds, Sat, May 23, 2009, 10:55 AM

Is the info contained here the same as what will be in the Bestiary?

James Jacobs (Editor-in-Chief, Pathfinder), Sat, May 23, 2009, 02:05 PM

William Edmunds wrote:

Is the info contained here the same as what will be in the Bestiary?

Not really. This book is a 3.5 book, so the stats won't be in the Pathfinder RPG format. Furthermore, we're limiting ourselves in the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary to a one-monster-to-a-page format for the vast majority of monsters. The MOST any monster will get will be 2 pages, and I'm pretty sure those honors are reserved for a very rare few critters.

Dungeon Denizens Revisited gives each of its ten monsters six pages of text, art, crunch, and flavor—there's a LOT more in here than what'll be in the Bestiary itself. It'll be compatible, but just not as detailed as what we're able to do in six pages per creature.

Cralius the Dark (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Thu, May 28, 2009, 01:20 PM

Just skimmed the PDF very quickly and I only have one word to say:

This book is freaking awesome!!

I know some, myself included, were a little leary about these monsters, but fear not!! If you never wanted to use a roper or cloaker in a dungeon, you will now. It's that good.

The artwork alone renews my interest in these creatures. And that has been the case for the whole Pathfinder line. Cheers to the artists!!

Has anyone else experienced this, or is it just me??

Gamer Girrl, Thu, May 28, 2009, 07:04 PM

Cralius the Dark wrote:

Just skimmed the PDF very quickly and I only have one word to say:

This book is freaking awesome!!

I know some, myself included, were a little leary about these monsters, but fear not!! If you never wanted to use a roper or cloaker in a dungeon, you will now. It's that good.

The artwork alone renews my interest in these creatures. And that has been the case for the whole Pathfinder line. Cheers to the artists!!

Has anyone else experienced this, or is it just me??

Just finished reading the forward and skimming the book for the pics ... no, you are not alone :) Wow ... and the fact that we get to see who did what is really cool! I think I'm more afraid of Ropers just knowing that Nick Logue is the writer LOL~

Lord Fyre (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32), Thu, May 28, 2009, 07:25 PM

Gamer Girrl wrote:

Cralius the Dark wrote:

Just skimmed the PDF very quickly and I only have one word to say:

This book is freaking awesome!!

I know some, myself included, were a little leary about these monsters, but fear not!! If you never wanted to use a roper or cloaker in a dungeon, you will now. It's that good.

The artwork alone renews my interest in these creatures. And that has been the case for the whole Pathfinder line. Cheers to the artists!!

Has anyone else experienced this, or is it just me??

Just finished reading the forward and skimming the book for the pics ... no, you are not alone :) Wow ... and the fact that we get to see who did what is really cool! I think I'm more afraid of Ropers just knowing that Nick Logue is the writer LOL~

You mean ... the Ropers?

Shadowborn, Thu, May 28, 2009, 08:20 PM

*sigh* Another book to add to the 'must have' list...

RaFon (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber), Fri, May 29, 2009, 05:02 AM

Is there a place to see a preview of this? I'd really like to see some of the artwork.

yoda8myhead (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber), Fri, May 29, 2009, 05:14 AM

RaFon wrote:

Is there a place to see a preview of this? I'd really like to see some of the artwork.

Check here for the PathfinderWiki's gallery of released artwork from this book.

Drakli (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber), Fri, May 29, 2009, 06:40 AM

Lord Snow wrote:

I mean sure, if somone can make this critter intresting, It's paizo... but it's a bear with wings that can't fly. it's not even stronger than a real bear. Owelbears are ridiculus monsters.

I've never understood the why some people think owlbears are stupid. Seriously, an owl is a predatory, not a goofy bird. A bird of prey large enough to treat a human like a mouse is nothing to sneeze at, (ever seen Secret of Nimh?) and then, you add bear into the mix. Nasty. The idea is sound.

That said, you've got a point. The stats for owlbears in 3/3.5 are kind of underwhelming. They're roughly level with the brown bear, slightly better in some ways and a bit worse in others, with the fact that they're magical beasts being the biggest distinction. By stats alone, there's little reason for owlbears, as there's little owlish about them. I hope the Pathfinder Bestiary builds some distinctive abilities into them... ultra-keen senses, a better bite than the bear (look at the size of that beak!,) a doom screech maybe, etc... to give evil wizards a reason to breed them instead of charming brown bears.

Pax Veritas (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber), Fri, May 29, 2009, 07:16 AM

Great Baccob!!! Is this available now? This looks like another award-winning book from PAIZO.

Fiendish Dire Weasel (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber), Fri, May 29, 2009, 08:29 AM

kessukoofah wrote:

OWLBEARS??? that alone makes me want this book, but it also has rust monsters! this is on my must have list for next season.

I noticed Clinton Boomer among the credits...I hope they gave him the Owlbear assignment.

"When an owl, loves a bear, very much, and they make a commitment, they do what we in arcane circles call THE NASTY. Few months later, couple of spells, hey you got yourself an Owlbear. And dammit they are delicious!"

Gamer Girrl, Fri, May 29, 2009, 10:03 AM

Clinton Boomer gives us the Mimic :) Richard Pett gives us the Owlbear, and I beleive folks will be pleased with the ferocity of the beastie :)

minkscooter (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber), Sat, May 30, 2009, 03:58 AM

DitheringFool wrote:

The only way this could be any cooler is if you include Cloakers...

Indeed :)

Eremite, Sun, May 31, 2009, 12:21 AM

I really want to see what's been done with cloakers but it looks like I have to wait until 24Jun. The drawbacks of living in Singapore....

Sean K Reynolds (Developer), Tue, Jun 2, 2009, 11:51 AM

Mmm, delicious cloakers, those crazy paranoid cultist bastards....

Pax Veritas (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber), Tue, Jun 2, 2009, 12:39 PM

Fiendish Dire Weasel wrote:

kessukoofah wrote:

OWLBEARS??? that alone makes me want this book, but it also has rust monsters! this is on my must have list for next season.

I noticed Clinton Boomer among the credits...I hope they gave him the Owlbear assignment.

"When an owl, loves a bear, very much, and they make a commitment, they do what we in arcane circles call THE NASTY. Few months later, couple of spells, hey you got yourself an Owlbear. And dammit they are delicious!"

Okay, that is just funny as all hell. Thank you, FDW!

Pax Veritas (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber), Tue, Jun 2, 2009, 12:41 PM

Sean K Reynolds wrote:

Mmm, delicious cloakers, those crazy paranoid cultist bastards....

Sean, I just wanted to recognize that everything you do is freekin' awesome. This book is a must-have. Generally, along with anything that says Sean K Reynolds.

Lara Cobb (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 02:49 PM

Has this begun shipping yet?

Jeff Alvarez (VP of Operations, Web Store Manager), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 02:56 PM

Lara Cobb wrote:

Has this begun shipping yet?

It has shipped to subscribers that aren't waiting for it to combine with Pathfinder #23 or their monthly shipment (which should start shipping the week after next).

Rocannon II (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Fri, Jun 5, 2009, 10:00 PM

Actually it DOES and considering how goblins and such were rewritten... I can hardly wait myself. heh, heh, heh

lastknightleft, Thu, Jun 18, 2009, 11:28 AM

When will the PDF be available?

Mikaze, Thu, Jun 18, 2009, 08:23 PM

Finally got it today, just started reading it.

Armadillo leprosy reference FTW.

Vic Wertz (Technical Director), Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 05:06 PM

lastknightleft wrote:

When will the PDF be available?

June 24.

Masika (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Maps Subscriber), Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 12:16 AM

I am really liking this book.

I mean REALLY. :)

Grimcleaver, Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 11:54 PM

Yup. Gonna' get this ordered into the local gamestore. No way I'm not buying this as soon as I can. This is what monster books should totally be like!

Asgetrion, Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 12:16 AM

Masika wrote:

I am really liking this book.

I mean REALLY. :)

Tell us more! *Why* do you like it? I might get this as well, but at the moment I have to prioritize what I'm buying (i.e. the rulebooks, Council of Thieves AP, Cheliax, Crypt of the Everflame, Carrion Hill and so on).

Gorbacz (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber), Mon, Aug 17, 2009, 12:21 AM

The chapter on Ropers is really cool. Hmmm, who wrote it ? Oh, it's the Logue. I should have known, all those slimy tentacles...

Eric Hinkle, Mon, Aug 31, 2009, 02:47 PM

Fiendish Dire Weasel wrote:

"When an owl, loves a bear, very much, and they make a commitment, they do what we in arcane circles call THE NASTY. Few months later, couple of spells, hey you got yourself an Owlbear. And dammit they are delicious!"

And they think the same thing about you. >;)

Steven Tindall, Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 10:21 AM

ok dumb question here. I am not sure if it's a 3.5 product or a 3.75/pathfinder specific type book.

I read and re-read the description and maybe I missed it.
I am still getting the book I would just like to know if I have to convert it back to 3.5 or is it table ready outta the box. Any help in finding the answer is greatly appreciated.

Steven Tindall, Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 10:36 AM

yea I made my search check!!. I found in previous posts that it is indeed 3.5 ready to go ,so yes, it is now on my must have list. plasma bank here I come. Pazio as long as you guys keep the prices of your great products under the payment for giving pint then I think things will work out great.

Sean K Reynolds (Developer), Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 02:47 PM

Sorry I missed the 20 minute window of you needing help. ;)