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(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber)

Is the info contained here the same as what will be in the Bestiary?

Paizo Employee (Creative Director)

William Edmunds wrote:
Is the info contained here the same as what will be in the Bestiary?

Not really. This book is a 3.5 book, so the stats won't be in the Pathfinder RPG format. Furthermore, we're limiting ourselves in the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary to a one-monster-to-a-page format for the vast majority of monsters. The MOST any monster will get will be 2 pages, and I'm pretty sure those honors are reserved for a very rare few critters.

Dungeon Denizens Revisited gives each of its ten monsters six pages of text, art, crunch, and flavor—there's a LOT more in here than what'll be in the Bestiary itself. It'll be compatible, but just not as detailed as what we're able to do in six pages per creature.

Osirion (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Just skimmed the PDF very quickly and I only have one word to say:

This book is freaking awesome!!

I know some, myself included, were a little leary about these monsters, but fear not!! If you never wanted to use a roper or cloaker in a dungeon, you will now. It's that good.

The artwork alone renews my interest in these creatures. And that has been the case for the whole Pathfinder line. Cheers to the artists!!

Has anyone else experienced this, or is it just me??

(RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32)

Cralius the Dark wrote:

Just skimmed the PDF very quickly and I only have one word to say:

This book is freaking awesome!!

I know some, myself included, were a little leary about these monsters, but fear not!! If you never wanted to use a roper or cloaker in a dungeon, you will now. It's that good.

The artwork alone renews my interest in these creatures. And that has been the case for the whole Pathfinder line. Cheers to the artists!!

Has anyone else experienced this, or is it just me??

Just finished reading the forward and skimming the book for the pics ... no, you are not alone :) Wow ... and the fact that we get to see who did what is really cool! I think I'm more afraid of Ropers just knowing that Nick Logue is the writer LOL~

(RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32)

Gamer Girrl wrote:
Cralius the Dark wrote:

Just skimmed the PDF very quickly and I only have one word to say:

This book is freaking awesome!!

I know some, myself included, were a little leary about these monsters, but fear not!! If you never wanted to use a roper or cloaker in a dungeon, you will now. It's that good.

The artwork alone renews my interest in these creatures. And that has been the case for the whole Pathfinder line. Cheers to the artists!!

Has anyone else experienced this, or is it just me??

Just finished reading the forward and skimming the book for the pics ... no, you are not alone :) Wow ... and the fact that we get to see who did what is really cool! I think I'm more afraid of Ropers just knowing that Nick Logue is the writer LOL~

You mean ... the Ropers?


*sigh* Another book to add to the 'must have' list...


Is there a place to see a preview of this? I'd really like to see some of the artwork.


RaFon wrote:
Is there a place to see a preview of this? I'd really like to see some of the artwork.

Check here for the PathfinderWiki's gallery of released artwork from this book.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Campaign Setting, Modules, Battles Case, GameMastery Maps Subscriber)

Lord Snow wrote:


I mean sure, if somone can make this critter intresting, It's paizo... but it's a bear with wings that can't fly. it's not even stronger than a real bear. Owelbears are ridiculus monsters.

I've never understood the why some people think owlbears are stupid. Seriously, an owl is a predatory, not a goofy bird. A bird of prey large enough to treat a human like a mouse is nothing to sneeze at, (ever seen Secret of Nimh?) and then, you add bear into the mix. Nasty. The idea is sound.

That said, you've got a point. The stats for owlbears in 3/3.5 are kind of underwhelming. They're roughly level with the brown bear, slightly better in some ways and a bit worse in others, with the fact that they're magical beasts being the biggest distinction. By stats alone, there's little reason for owlbears, as there's little owlish about them. I hope the Pathfinder Bestiary builds some distinctive abilities into them... ultra-keen senses, a better bite than the bear (look at the size of that beak!,) a doom screech maybe, etc... to give evil wizards a reason to breed them instead of charming brown bears.

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Modules Subscriber)

Great Baccob!!! Is this available now? This looks like another award-winning book from PAIZO.

Qadira (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

kessukoofah wrote:
OWLBEARS??? that alone makes me want this book, but it also has rust monsters! this is on my must have list for next season.

I noticed Clinton Boomer among the credits...I hope they gave him the Owlbear assignment.

"When an owl, loves a bear, very much, and they make a commitment, they do what we in arcane circles call THE NASTY. Few months later, couple of spells, hey you got yourself an Owlbear. And dammit they are delicious!"

(RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32)

Clinton Boomer gives us the Mimic :) Richard Pett gives us the Owlbear, and I beleive folks will be pleased with the ferocity of the beastie :)


DitheringFool wrote:
The only way this could be any cooler is if you include Cloakers...

Indeed :)


I really want to see what's been done with cloakers but it looks like I have to wait until 24Jun. The drawbacks of living in Singapore....


Mmm, delicious cloakers, those crazy paranoid cultist bastards....

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Modules Subscriber)

Fiendish Dire Weasel wrote:
kessukoofah wrote:
OWLBEARS??? that alone makes me want this book, but it also has rust monsters! this is on my must have list for next season.

I noticed Clinton Boomer among the credits...I hope they gave him the Owlbear assignment.

"When an owl, loves a bear, very much, and they make a commitment, they do what we in arcane circles call THE NASTY. Few months later, couple of spells, hey you got yourself an Owlbear. And dammit they are delicious!"

Okay, that is just funny as all hell. Thank you, FDW!

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Roleplaying Game, Modules Subscriber)

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Mmm, delicious cloakers, those crazy paranoid cultist bastards....

Sean, I just wanted to recognize that everything you do is freekin' awesome. This book is a must-have. Generally, along with anything that says Sean K Reynolds.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

Has this begun shipping yet?

Paizo Employee (VP of Operations, Web Store Manager)

Lara Cobb wrote:
Has this begun shipping yet?

It has shipped to subscribers that aren't waiting for it to combine with Pathfinder #23 or their monthly shipment (which should start shipping the week after next).

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting Subscriber)

Actually it DOES and considering how goblins and such were rewritten... I can hardly wait myself. heh, heh, heh

Taldor (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

When will the PDF be available?


Finally got it today, just started reading it.

Armadillo leprosy reference FTW.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

lastknightleft wrote:
When will the PDF be available?

June 24.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Battles Case Subscriber)

I am really liking this book.

I mean REALLY. :)


Yup. Gonna' get this ordered into the local gamestore. No way I'm not buying this as soon as I can. This is what monster books should totally be like!


Masika wrote:

I am really liking this book.

I mean REALLY. :)

Tell us more! *Why* do you like it? I might get this as well, but at the moment I have to prioritize what I'm buying (i.e. the rulebooks, Council of Thieves AP, Cheliax, Crypt of the Everflame, Carrion Hill and so on).

Silver Crusade (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

The chapter on Ropers is really cool. Hmmm, who wrote it ? Oh, it's the Logue. I should have known, all those slimy tentacles...


Fiendish Dire Weasel wrote:

"When an owl, loves a bear, very much, and they make a commitment, they do what we in arcane circles call THE NASTY. Few months later, couple of spells, hey you got yourself an Owlbear. And dammit they are delicious!"

And they think the same thing about you. >;)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

ok dumb question here. I am not sure if it's a 3.5 product or a 3.75/pathfinder specific type book.

I read and re-read the description and maybe I missed it.
I am still getting the book I would just like to know if I have to convert it back to 3.5 or is it table ready outta the box. Any help in finding the answer is greatly appreciated.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

yea I made my search check!!. I found in previous posts that it is indeed 3.5 ready to go ,so yes, it is now on my must have list. plasma bank here I come. Pazio as long as you guys keep the prices of your great products under the payment for giving pint then I think things will work out great.


Sorry I missed the 20 minute window of you needing help. ;)


I absolutely loved reading this book. Are the similar releases in the series as much fun to read as this volume?

(RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)

philreed wrote:
I absolutely loved reading this book. Are the similar releases in the series as much fun to read as this volume?

I'd say yes. Classic Monsters really take new looks on the 'classic' humanoids (trolls and ogres being humanoids with the giant subtype in 3.x) and hobgoblins get a good face lift. (I had players freaking with Hobgoblins barking orders and firing as a unit. "Archers! Spellcaster at 3 o'Clock! Supressive fire!")

Classic Undead does the same treatment. While there's some controversy on the mindless undead (seems to contradict the fluff of Nex for example) the other monsters really have, um, bite.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Classic Undead does the same treatment. While there's some controversy on the mindless undead (seems to contradict the fluff of Nex for example) the other monsters really have, um, bite.

Classic Undead? I'll have to snag that one. Thanks!

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

philreed wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Classic Undead does the same treatment. While there's some controversy on the mindless undead (seems to contradict the fluff of Nex for example) the other monsters really have, um, bite.
Classic Undead? I'll have to snag that one. Thanks!

I think he means Classic Horrors Revisited.


Vic Wertz wrote:
I think he means Classic Horrors Revisited.

Thanks, Vic. Though I have to say that I'm in the market for a companion that's titled "Classic Undead Revisted" because I can never get enough undead monsters.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Maps Subscriber)


Ravenmantle wrote:
Undead Revisited

Thanks!

(RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8)

Vic Wertz wrote:
philreed wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Classic Undead does the same treatment. While there's some controversy on the mindless undead (seems to contradict the fluff of Nex for example) the other monsters really have, um, bite.
Classic Undead? I'll have to snag that one. Thanks!
I think he means Classic Horrors Revisited.

Yes I did, mea culpa.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

Ravenmantle wrote:
Undead Revisited

Yeah, but I knew he didn't mean that one, because it's not out yet. (Or, for that matter, written.) ;-)

(Paizo Superscriber)

Vic Wertz wrote:
Ravenmantle wrote:
Undead Revisited
Yeah, but I knew he didn't mean that one, because it's not out yet. (Or, for that matter, written.) ;-)

It just went on MY wishlist though.

To alleviate confusion, here are the multiple books in this line (so far):

Classic Monsters Revisited (goblins, ogres, trolls, lizardfolk, gnolls, etc)
Dragons Revisited (major metallic and chromatic dragon types)
Dungeon Denizens Revisited (bulette, gelatinous cube, mimic, otyugh, owlbear, and more!)
Classic Horrors Revisited (werewolves, vampires, hags, mummies, flesh golems, gargoyles, ghosts, ghouls, zombies and skeletons, and derro)
Classic Treasures Revisited (bag of holding, sphere of annihilation, helm of brilliance, etc.)
Misfit Monsters Redeemed (wolf in sheep's clothing, flumph, snail flail, etc)
Undead Revisited (graveknight, undead dragon, bodak, devourer, etc)

As a sidenote, I wish there were a [u] tag on this forum. I would have bolded the titles and underlined parts for emphasis.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

Seems to be garnering good reviews!


The latest review is a bit.ly link, as you all should know that can mean hidden .exe/trojan files, I would advise removing that link.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:
The latest review is a bit.ly link, as you all should know that can mean hidden .exe/trojan files, I would advise removing that link.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Book_Pathfinder_Chronicles_Dungeon_Denizens_ Revisited_Sean_K_Reynolds/content_531006262916

Here's the full url.

Using Opera I don't worry too much about loopholes in Firefox or Explorer as exefiles won't run without my permission.

Of course using caution is good online/elsewhere.


Leonal wrote:
Xaaon of Korvosa wrote:
The latest review is a bit.ly link, as you all should know that can mean hidden .exe/trojan files, I would advise removing that link.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Book_Pathfinder_Chronicles_Dungeon_Denizens_ Revisited_Sean_K_Reynolds/content_531006262916

Here's the full url.

Using Opera I don't worry too much about loopholes in Firefox or Explorer as exefiles won't run without my permission.

Of course using caution is good online/elsewhere.

I'm a fox user as well, but not everyone is as savvy. Just struck me as odd. Glad it's fine then.

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