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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game (OGL) Beta Release
sonderkrabbe,

Paizo Pirahna HRF 01 071214 avatar

Got it!

Osirion yoda8myhead (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

R 1-Rakshasa-Opener Redo 1 avatar

WHEEEEEE!

Osirion DragonBelow (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Chronicles Subscriber),

Bluedragon 2 avatar

Pure awesomeness

Osirion The Red Death,

A 16-Red-Death 1 avatar

DragonBelow wrote:
Pure awesomeness

Indeed.

Emperor7 (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Go L 64 Treant avatar

Got it! Should have my softcover next week.

What is the best way to point out typos, etc? My eye catches these things on their own and I'd like to help the editing process for the final edition.

eg. p79 Natural Spell benefit should read Cast, not Case

Yes I'm weird, but I'm willing to let my weirdness serve some good. Especially since I'll be devouring the Beta over the next days.

Boone,

03 Spider Eater Fight avatar

All of this in one book PLUS a web enhancement. Awesome.

Osirion Ungoded,

Black avatar

Emperor7 wrote:
What is the best way to point out typos, etc? My eye catches these things on their own and I'd like to help the editing process for the final edition.

Jason says here that they'll basically be going through the book by chapters.

So, make a list and be sure to mention it when that chapter is being looked at.

Emperor7 (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

Go L 64 Treant avatar

Ungoded wrote:
Emperor7 wrote:
What is the best way to point out typos, etc? My eye catches these things on their own and I'd like to help the editing process for the final edition.

Jason says here that they'll basically be going through the book by chapters.

So, make a list and be sure to mention it when that chapter is being looked at.


Thx! Missed that post.

This release is like a sugar rush!

psymin,

Theater avatar

The Web Enhancement PDF doesn't appear to mention that it is legal to have it printed by a 3rd party.

My local Staples won't let me print it without authorization. If you ever release another Web Enhancement, please specify that we are allowed to print it :)

moriarty777,

I was eagerly awaiting this... and now I am annoyed. Not at the content mind you but the manner in which it is delivered. Couldn't the effort have been made to have a combined document like the previous Alpha's as opposed to having this split up into chapters?

Or maybe even provide the choice to the person downloading it?

Since they are protected PDFs, I can't really do this for myself either. However since I see myself 'flipping' through the document, opening up 18 separate PDFs is a bit of a pain for that convenience.

Other than that, I say good job!

M

Andoran Insert Neat Username Here,

Paizo Hoarfrost Helix 2 HRF avatar

moriarty777 wrote:
I was eagerly awaiting this... and now I am annoyed. Not at the content mind you but the manner in which it is delivered. Couldn't the effort have been made to have a combined document like the previous Alpha's as opposed to having this split up into chapters?

Or maybe even provide the choice to the person downloading it?

Since they are protected PDFs, I can't really do this for myself either. However since I see myself 'flipping' through the document, opening up 18 separate PDFs is a bit of a pain for that convenience.

Other than that, I say good job!

M


There's one of each. I have the one-document one.

Osirion The Red Death,

A 16-Red-Death 1 avatar

moriarty777 wrote:
Couldn't the effort have been made to have a combined document like the previous Alpha's as opposed to having this split up into chapters?

Or maybe even provide the choice to the person downloading it?
M


You should have both a one big PDF file download and a split PDF per Chapter download available to you.

Stebehil (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; GameMastery Cards Subscriber),

Coin avatar

It disappeared from my list of preorders yesterday, but did not show up as an order yet. Neither did the pdf, even though I just ordered it once again separately just now - normally, downloads show up immediately afterwards ordering. Any idea what is happening there?

EDIT: D'oh! I just did not see that the Alpha Release pdf was replaced by the Beta already...

Stefan

Cheliax BigDaddyG (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber),

15 CWater Mephit avatar

Today's blog states that they are just about sold out of Beta at Gencon. I wonder how many copies they took with them? I'm looking forward to seeing the numbers sold and numbers downloaded.

Andoran Shisumo (Pathfinder Chronicles Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

11-xilldestrachan 4 avatar

BigDaddyG wrote:
Today's blog states that they are just about sold out of Beta at Gencon. I wonder how many copies they took with them? I'm looking forward to seeing the numbers sold and numbers downloaded.

Jason has a followup on his LJ that says they are done gone. 9 hours, 8 minutes, then poof!

Andoran Andrew Turner (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber),

Unger avatar

Anyone gotten theirs in the mail yet?

Lost Messiah,

28 Korvosan-Guard-Uniform avatar

Looks great folks!

It'll be a few days before I'm able to really read through the pdf in full, and waiting on the soft cover to come to Canada!

I love the graphics, and hope it fulfills my expectations! You've raised the bar in the industry with this product!

The Authority,

11 -Tentacled-Horror avatar

Spent the day yesterday chewing on the beta and found it delightful.

Thanks guys.

moriarty777,

The Red Death wrote:
moriarty777 wrote:
Couldn't the effort have been made to have a combined document like the previous Alpha's as opposed to having this split up into chapters?

Or maybe even provide the choice to the person downloading it?
M


You should have both a one big PDF file download and a split PDF per Chapter download available to you.

I must have either missed it but I could have sworn I didn't initially have that single file option. I'm glad it was there (or finally saw it) when I went back today though... It will make my reading a lot easier!

;)

BluePigeon (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

Blue-Dragon avatar

This book will be the centerpiece of my new treasure horde. And those mortals I allow into my lair may worship its magnificence.

Arkh`Cthuul,

Yeah, finally!

Gonna dive into it immedeatly.....

Cheliax Dane Pitchford (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

A 3 Longtooth-the-Red-Dragon avatar

Andrew Turner wrote:
Anyone gotten theirs in the mail yet?

Yup! Got it in a package with a couple of other books (namely the Campaign Setting and PF #2), and I have to say it's awesome. I'm very happy with the progress they've made with Beta :)

Taldor Pax Veritas (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

Rust-monster avatar

I knew I should have had this shipped priority mail. Well, at least I have the .pdf to keep me warm!

Michael Scarpelli,

I've been looking through the Alpha/Beta release and generally like what I see.

I noticed that it still says "We’ve had a great deal of debate about starting hit points, and have yet to come to a satisfying conclusion." My comment to this is why not use the vitality and wound points system, at least as an option? I found out about it while looking for alternatives to HP. And wouldn't you know it that the d20 community seemed to like this system that was developed for the Star Wars d20 RPG. I've played my last 3 sessions using it and like it a lot. Lower levels are a bit tougher and it makes the critical all that more .. critical.

Can't wait for the final release.

Kris Black,

Copper 2 avatar

Michael Scarpelli wrote:
I've been looking through the Alpha/Beta release and generally like what I see.

I noticed that it still says "We’ve had a great deal of debate about starting hit points, and have yet to come to a satisfying conclusion." My comment to this is why not use the vitality and wound points system, at least as an option? I found out about it while looking for alternatives to HP. And wouldn't you know it that the d20 community seemed to like this system that was developed for the Star Wars d20 RPG. I've played my last 3 sessions using it and like it a lot. Lower levels are a bit tougher and it makes the critical all that more .. critical.

Can't wait for the final release.


I like the Vitality/Wound Pont system too. BUT I think that having critical inflict damage to Wound points was too extreme. We opted for Crit = Double damage on Vitality Points instead (or standard damage if it inflicts any Wound damage at all).

Another point that I have against the 3e system is variable BAB for multiple attacks. This has somehow been fixed in Star Wars Saga (i.e. gain a second and third attack through a couple of feats; the penalties for multiple attacks are a bit too steep though).

baldwin the merciful (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

06-majestrixs-5 avatar

Well, I spent the last few days reading the downloaded Beta version and enjoyed what I read. Most of the revisions were received well (I don't like concentration skill merging into spellcraft but that is a minor point). I really like the negative level revision.

In order to further my support of Paizo, I just placed my print order. Thanks for the outstanding product.

randall turnquist 77,

Opener 7 avatar

Hey let me know when the pathfinder quest go's to this and I'll stop my subscription. It is just like 4.0 wotc put out. All to high powered PC's and no real content to work with. I've been DM'ing for years now and make up most of my own stuff, I just enjoy reading and borrowing ideas from the pathfinder books. So now all my quest I've made wouldn't work and would take forever to convert. I mean for real having a PC with a 8 score starting out made it so that atleast they had 1 ability that they wernt good at, thus making them rely on the party or amke a situation more difficult to get through. kind of force the party to role play instead of number crunch. But hey what ever it's wotc 4.0 with a diffrent wrapping. I don't know about anyone else but I have every 3.5 book made and not ready to give them up yet

Andoran Arda Badgerhill,

Adventurer avatar

Downloaded the beta, and while I like what I see so far, I do have a question about the layout of the spells...

The way that the spells are laid out, I find it very hard to pick out where each spell ends or the next one begins. This may very well be to my aging eyes, but I find that the bold spell name is not enough to make the spells stand out from each other. It is with effort that I can locate the individual spells, and I find that this is a bit annoying. Not a deal breaker by any means, but seeing that spells take up a major portion of the book, that annoyance could turn into a real pain over time.

My question is as follows...

Are there any plans to change the layout? Something like a larger type? Underlined name? Larger space between spells? Anything?

blope (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

8 Kuotoa Final Small avatar

Where is the web enhanced version? I downloaded the pdf, but I only got the 408 page pdf.

Awesome book btw.

Maveric28 (Pathfinder Adventure Path, GameMastery Cards Subscriber),

Avatar Elan avatar

About bloody time! My players were getting antsy... I'm ordering my softcover edition right now, as the thought of printing out 300+ pages is making my printer sweat. Can't wait to get my grubby little hands on it!

JahellTheBard,

Owl avatar

Looks really good!

I will ask my party to adopt this or the new adventures!

I just need a little time to read all the pdf ... very good indeed :)!

Qadira CrackedOzy,

Lamashtu Worshiper Final avatar

Fantastic work.

Here is another review: Geek Related

Qadira delabarre (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

8 -Rake Final avatar

My preorder is still "Pending"...any word on when these will be processed?

ermac25,

i would love to try it out if i find the metod to download it

Aaron Whitley,

Coin avatar

ermac25 wrote:
i would love to try it out if i find the metod to download it

At the top of the page will be a link call "My Downloads". Click on that link and it will take you to a page with all of your downloadable content from Paizo. All you need to do is personalize the file and then download it.

Taldor Pax Veritas (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

Rust-monster avatar

ermac25.
1. Create an account.
2. Click on add pdf to cart.
3. Follow the process like you're buying something.
4. You'll find the document in your downloads.

Try it. Return here if you still have questions.

Iziak,

Scribbler Hires avatar

Quick question: I just got my copy of this and the cover paper seems to be much lighter and flimsier than that on the Pathfinder APs and Chronicles, and on such a long book it's kind of annoying. Don't get me wrong... I love the contents, but I'm just wondering if this new cover quality is just for this (probably since it is only supposed to last a year and to keep costs down on the Beta) or if all Pathfinder books will be switching to it.

Thanks!

Cheliax elnopintan (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Cards Subscriber),

B 5-Treerazer avatar

Mine arrived to Spain today!!!

Paizo Employee Lisa Stevens (CEO),

Lisa's avatar

Iziak wrote:
Quick question: I just got my copy of this and the cover paper seems to be much lighter and flimsier than that on the Pathfinder APs and Chronicles, and on such a long book it's kind of annoying. Don't get me wrong... I love the contents, but I'm just wondering if this new cover quality is just for this (probably since it is only supposed to last a year and to keep costs down on the Beta) or if all Pathfinder books will be switching to it.

Thanks!


We used a different printer to print the Beta. The rest of our books are still going through our regular printer so won't be affected. The final RPG hardcover will more than likely also go through our regular printer.

-Lisa

Shifter,

Courtesan avatar

Hi Guys,

I am new member to the society and have read the guide to the society and part of the beta test book.

First, I love what you have done with the classes in the beta.

Question: In the society guide it mentions that there is a 20 point system used for character generation. The old 3.5 system is somewhat broken and you have compensated with the new class description in beta but 3.5 version is still weak on character classes and you have lowered the points allowed for char. gen. What compensates for the weaker stats in the Society char. gen?

Shifter,

Courtesan avatar

How many scenario's are currently aviailable for Society home games?

Shifter,

Courtesan avatar

Never Mind I found them, currently there are 4 what is your planned release rate on society scenario's?

Lilith (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber),

Chess-final 2 avatar

Shifter wrote:
Never Mind I found them, currently there are 4 what is your planned release rate on society scenario's?

I believe it's two a month, except for convention months (June and August), where it's 4 a month.

Also, the Beta rules are not used in Org Play.

Paizo Employee Vic Wertz (Technical Director),

Vic Wertz

Shifter, welcome to the boards!

You'll get better results with mechanical questions over in the Pathfinder RPG forums and with Pathfinder Society questions in the Pathfinder Society forum. (Though the answer to your question is that most months, we plan to release two scenarios, as Lilith noted.)

Iziak,

Scribbler Hires avatar

Lisa Stevens wrote:
We used a different printer to print the Beta. The rest of our books are still going through our regular printer so won't be affected. The final RPG hardcover will more than likely also go through our regular printer.

-Lisa


Thanks for the reply!

hopeless,

TSR 95053-25 avatar

Where do I post questions on the beta?

For example even though the wizard in the 2nd adventure path has a limited list of spells what spells would be listed ina 1st level wizard's spellbook.

In 3.5 it would be any 0th level spell they can cast barring forbidden schools and a limited number of 1st level spells.

Can't find any info on this in the beta and was wondering what the ruling on this is?

Taldor Zootcat (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Planet Stories Subscriber),

A 10-Glorio-Arkona avatar

Shifter wrote:
Hi Guys,

I am new member to the society and have read the guide to the society and part of the beta test book.

First, I love what you have done with the classes in the beta.

Question: In the society guide it mentions that there is a 20 point system used for character generation. The old 3.5 system is somewhat broken and you have compensated with the new class description in beta but 3.5 version is still weak on character classes and you have lowered the points allowed for char. gen. What compensates for the weaker stats in the Society char. gen?


Point Buy in 3.5 starts at 8. In PFBeta, Point Buy starts at 10. You CAN have Ability scores lower than 10, however. These scores are valued at a negative cost. So, in a 20 Point Buy, if you lower all your 10's to 8's, buying back those points... guess what? You now have 32 points to spend on Abilities. Conclusion: PFBeta's 20 Point Buy = 3.5's 32 Point Buy.

Waldo.be (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber),

Greyhawk-dragon-2 avatar

Did any of you know when the printed version will be available in Europe (Amazon,...) ? Customs discourage us to buy oversea...

hopeless,

TSR 95053-25 avatar

hopeless wrote:
Where do I post questions on the beta?

For example even though the wizard in the 2nd adventure path has a limited list of spells what spells would be listed ina 1st level wizard's spellbook.

In 3.5 it would be any 0th level spell they can cast barring forbidden schools and a limited number of 1st level spells.

Can't find any info on this in the beta and was wondering what the ruling on this is?


Okay found it, only goes to show i really need to get a print copy to avoid making the same mistake again...

Paizo Employee Vic Wertz (Technical Director),

Vic Wertz

Waldo.be wrote:
Did any of you know when the printed version will be available in Europe (Amazon,...) ? Customs discourage us to buy oversea...

Because it's a low-profit-margin item for us, we're not selling it in significant quantities to the book trade (including Amazon), though we sent them some to cover preorders.

We are selling it through the hobby channel (that is, game stores) worldwide, though; I'd expect European distributors should have it by now.

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