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Is this available now? Is there a PDF with it?You can order it now.
You only get a free PDF with it as part of a Pathfinder Chronicles subscription, but if you want to pay extra, you can get it once the book hits stores.
Of course, if you start your Pathfinder Chronicles subscription now, you can still start with this volume, and so get the free PDF...
How if at all is this Campaign Setting going to be affected by the release of the Pathfinder RPG rules next year? Will an update to the CS come out with rules changes to match the Pathfinder RPG rules set?
There should be very little impact on this book by the release of the PFRPG next August. The main changes that affect the PCCS hardcover are the domain powers and the NPC statblocks in the back. Otherwise, it should be pretty good as is. That's one of the many benefits of the PFRPG being so compatible with 3.5OGL. :)
I just checked Amazon and they say this book comes out in Sept 2008 and is currently available for PRE-ORDER. So, to everyone that has actually picked this up, have any of you actually purchased it from Amazon or has everyone gotten it directly from Paizo?
Thanks!
it takes about 3-4 weeks to get from paizo through diamond distributors and to the store's warehouse
Zonemind
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The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.
Uhh... you do realize that Paizo aims a lot of its products at people who like the stuff written by the Old Guard, right? "Grognards," as they are sometimes called.
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.
... you do realize that Paizo aims a lot of its products at people who like the stuff written by the Old Guard, right? "Grognards," as they are sometimes called.
I would be one of those to whom Paizo successfully caters.
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.
Okay, but then there's me & mine - the Young-Punk Rabble-Rouser Skateboard-&-Switchblade Regiment, ourselves contributing quite a bit to the book as well.
And it's edited like a DREAM.
My guess is that the discerning RPG connoisseur will be both well-pleased and well-served by the book, specifically by the unique admixture represented in the combination of Veteran Guards with Aspiring Champions.
Okay, but then there's me & mine - the Young-Punk Rabble-Rouser Skateboard-&-Switchblade Regiment, ourselves contributing quite a bit to the book as well.
Preach on brother. I didn't even play D&D till 3e, and I can probably count on a single hand how many 1e books I've read from cover to cover. I'm one of those cant speaking, dungeon-punk loving, anti-grognards in a lot of ways. ;)
Yet...
Let's just say that Paizo's style isn't locked into one demographic of taste and play style. If they can snag onto the old-school renaissance crowd and get me hooked at the same time, they're doing something right.
There are a lot of people on that list much, much more "old guardy" than I am.
And none of them are caught dead in passive voice if they can help it.
Honestly, the direction I got for my small, humble section meant I wrote something very different that I have ever written for anyone else. I suspect the Paizo staff knows how to match writer to section well enough to keep their great fans very, very happy.
As I work in a bookstore/gaming shop, I buy my paper copies of stuff directly from them. I have kinda grown a small happy group of pathfinder devotees here that I'm proud of, and figure that my purchases remain the primary reason for the store's support of pathfinder thus far. All this is said to begin a question as regards both this book, and the pathfinder society offerings:
Is it possible for me to get pdf downloads without purchasing the physical book online? I am planning to run society events scheduled through our store here, but will be managing the process personally, as we lack the space to run them on site!
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.
If you can pick out which sections were written by the Old Guard vs. which sections were written by the umm... Not-Old Guard, then I won't argue with you. But I would bet that you couldn't do it.
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.
G*%@*@n young punks! Always with the insults! Get offa my lawn!
There are a lot of people on that list much, much more "old guardy" than I am.
And none of them are caught dead in passive voice if they can help it.
Honestly, the direction I got for my small, humble section meant I wrote something very different that I have ever written for anyone else. I suspect the Paizo staff knows how to match writer to section well enough to keep their great fans very, very happy.
Good point. In talking about writing stuff, I've had the good fortune or providential blessing to find opportunities offered that are good fits with my strengths, such as they may be.
I wonder if I'm Old Guardy. I feel old compared to in D&D years, but in terms of being a "writer of D&D stuff" I've only been doing that since like 2002. I wonder how you qualify for olde guardiness?
And none of them are caught dead in passive voice if they can help it.
Did you use the passive voice here on purpose?
If I pick this up at GenCon, do I still get the PDF? What about any other Pathfinder materials (modules, etc.) that I pick up at GenCon?
You can purchase pdfs for any product online. Free pdfs are an added bonus for subscribers, and any product that ships to you as part of a Pathfinder sub grants access to the pdf. Otherwise, they are a separate product which must be purchased individually.
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.If you can pick out which sections were written by the Old Guard vs. which sections were written by the umm... Not-Old Guard, then I won't argue with you. But I would bet that you couldn't do it.
Yup. Every section when through the Mike Filter, and most of them went through the Erik Filter and the Jacobs Filter as well. Even though the book was written by a couple dozen talented and EXCELLENT writers, it doesn't feel as though it was written by different authors when you read it from cover to cover. :)
Edit: Thanks AlexBlake! :D
Yup. Every section when through the Mike Filter, and most of them went through the Erik Filter and the Jacobs Filter as well. Even though the book was written by a couple dozen talented and EXCELLENT writers, it doesn't feel that way when you read it from cover to cover. :)
I think he means "it doesn't feel like it was written by a bunch of different authors, it's one cohesive whole."
and not, "there's no way you'd think this book was written by Talented and Excellent writers after I got through with it."
Yup. Every section when through the Mike Filter, and most of them went through the Erik Filter and the Jacobs Filter as well. Even though the book was written by a couple dozen talented and EXCELLENT writers, it doesn't feel that way when you read it from cover to cover. :)I think he means "it doesn't feel like it was written by a bunch of different authors, it's one cohesive whole."
and not, "there's no way you'd think this book was written by Talented and Excellent writers after I got through with it."
ACK! Yes. I'm going to edit my post now.
The stable of writers… well, I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time. But I came to Paizo to get away from Ye Olde Passive Voice Duffers Patrol, luminaries of which august body pepper the credits page like deposits of mouse excreta upon the family silver.
there is maybe one sentence per 'article' that you can read and go "that sounds like X's writing" the rest reads and sounds like a compilation of various voices.
I was wondering, just how much crossover there is between this book and the Gazzeteer?
I am interested in picking both up, but the budget is way too tight to justify picking both up if the amount of shared info is too great. From what I have seen and heard so far, Paizo is not in the habit of gouging their customers by publishing two books of similar material, but need to know in order to justify the expense to "higher"
(my past spending record has brought me to this sad, sad point so no one to blame but myself :( )
Is there actually a pdf of this book? Because if there is I am not seeing it (and after someone points it out I will probably be thinking "Man I can't believe I missed that", but oh well) so could someone point it out
The PDF version doesn't go up for sale until the book hits retail shelves, which is usually a couple weeks or so after it ships to subscribers. In this case, I think I remember Vic stating that the PDF was going to be available on August 14th (I think).
EDIT. I checked on the other thread and yes, it's August 14th.
I was wondering, just how much crossover there is between this book and the Gazzeteer?
I am interested in picking both up, but the budget is way too tight to justify picking both up if the amount of shared info is too great. From what I have seen and heard so far, Paizo is not in the habit of gouging their customers by publishing two books of similar material, but need to know in order to justify the expense to "higher"
(my past spending record has brought me to this sad, sad point so no one to blame but myself :( )
The crossover between those two books is pretty mighty. Think of the Gaz as the Hardcover Lite.
Has the CS book gone out to retailers yet? My FLGS has it in their computer but no release date is posted. Will it be possible to find on the shelves later this week?
I try to keep my purchases to the FLGS (with the exception of my AP sub).
We've shipped to distributors; hopefully they've shipped to retailers. The street date is August 14.
We've shipped to distributors; hopefully they've shipped to retailers. The street date is August 14.Has the CS book gone out to retailers yet? My FLGS has it in their computer but no release date is posted. Will it be possible to find on the shelves later this week?
I try to keep my purchases to the FLGS (with the exception of my AP sub).
WOO HOO!! Can't wait!!
Just having skimmed the book at a friend's place, I can't say much. It looks great, and the new classes I think make it a brilliant resource for players and not just DMs. I wonder if those classes will also be included in the new Pathfinder RPG????? Any info available yet????
Just one minor bit of criticism... I was looking forward to reading the prefaces by Rob Kuntz and Bob Salvatore, since I'm a great fan of both authors. But it's pretty clear from having read their little prefaces now that neither of them had the complete product to look at and comment on. So what we get instead is generic remarks from them one might stick into ANY campaign setting, or even, if you will (sigh) into the 4th edition DM Guide. Which is a shame. This hardcover rocks, so why preface it by words of people who haven't read it????? (Please note, I'm just saying it READS as if Rob and Bob hadn't read it. If they have, mea culpa.) So my 5 cents of advice are. When you make Monte Cook write the preface of the PF RPG, please make sure he's commenting on the actual ruleset. Obviously he knows bits here and there, being an advisor, but what would be awesome is getting his *global take* on the PF RPG ruleset. I find there are few people in the industry who're capable of giving such a synopsis of a d20 based ruleset. Monte summing up in a nutshell what this revised version of 3.5 is all about would be a real selling point :)
I'm surprised the map locations in Appendix A top out at August 2008, meaning the book will be out of date in a month or so. Aren't the Pathfinder APs known at least 4 to 6 months in advance of their release month? It would have been nice if the book had been published with the PAP locations through to early 2009 or so. As it is now, it seems like just a sort of advertising blurb disguised as something more useful. Looking at it a year from now will be odd, showing adventure locations from the distant past.
I'm surprised the map locations in Appendix A top out at August 2008, meaning the book will be out of date in a month or so. Aren't the Pathfinder APs known at least 4 to 6 months in advance of their release month? It would have been nice if the book had been published with the PAP locations through to early 2009 or so. As it is now, it seems like just a sort of advertising blurb disguised as something more useful. Looking at it a year from now will be odd, showing adventure locations from the distant past.
Please don't take this a rudness, but ...
Huh???!!??
I'm surprised the map locations in Appendix A top out at August 2008, meaning the book will be out of date in a month or so. Aren't the Pathfinder APs known at least 4 to 6 months in advance of their release month? It would have been nice if the book had been published with the PAP locations through to early 2009 or so. As it is now, it seems like just a sort of advertising blurb disguised as something more useful. Looking at it a year from now will be odd, showing adventure locations from the distant past.
Please don't take this a rudness, but ...
Huh???!!??
Seconded. I'm confused.
Of course anything that talks about other products is going to be out of date in a month. There's nothing we could have done about that.
If the gang is feeling spunky and finally invented that 25th hour in the day, they might periodically go in and update the PDF of those pages, but I wouldn't ask them to do that and nor would I hold my breath.
Of course anything that talks about other products is going to be out of date in a month. There's nothing we could have done about that.
Paizo knows where at least the next 8 PAPs will be located on the map of Golarion. It wouldn't have taken an extra hour to the day to add them to the map as well. That is all I'm trying to say. It would have been nice for the map in the book to show all the PAPs instead of just those already published. It would have made the book seem 'fresher' until well into 2009.