Zowie! Two Pathfinders in one month. This, I do like (except for the hit my Visa is going to take...).

No Player's Guide for Second Darkness? I'm bummed : (

No Player's Guide for Second Darkness? I'm bummed : (

tdewitt274 wrote:

No Player's Guide for Second Darkness? I'm bummed : (

It's pathfinder companion #1, which is free to Pathfinder subscribers (and twice as long as the earlier ones).

Can't wait to read the pdf. Just finished the Companion, and it was awesome.

Hilarious joke in the Foreward. I feel like an idiot for not catching on right away, but when I did... man.

Yep I saw that too :) Hee.

Just wanted to drop a line and say wow! I get on to see what's new and end up downloading not only issue 12 but the Second Darkness PG and issue 13 too!! Keep up the good work guys; haven't completely digested everything yet but what i have read so far is certainly not disappointing :)

Can't wait to read the pdf. Just finished the Companion, and it was awesome.

Do each Pathfinder Adventure Path start the PC's at 1st level and work the PC's up to 20th, as the Adventure Paths in Dungeon did?

Do each Pathfinder Adventure Path start the PC's at 1st level and work the PC's up to 20th, as the Adventure Paths in Dungeon did?

Oh and can I just say...I needed an extra cup. Second Darkness is AMAZING!!! I love what Paizo has done with the Drow. It's more than I could have asked for!!

Do each Pathfinder Adventure Path start the PC's at 1st level and work the PC's up to 20th, as the Adventure Paths in Dungeon did?

OK listen, I'm not a regular forum poster and can't work out these BBCodes for spoiler alerts so I will be as vague as possible. No idea where the brackets and /spoiler line should go to affect the text...sue me, I'm an old man.

Asking for some errata:

The PCs can find the deed to a piece of property and it mentions that a discussion of the ramifications of this for the party will be discussed in the Concluding the Adventure section. The deed is not mentioned. Could you perhaps fill us in online?

OK listen, I'm not a regular forum poster and can't work out these BBCodes for spoiler alerts so I will be as vague as possible. No idea where the brackets and /spoiler line should go to affect the text...sue me, I'm an old man.

Asking for some errata:

The PCs can find the deed to a piece of property and it mentions that a discussion of the ramifications of this for the party will be discussed in the Concluding the Adventure section. The deed is not mentioned. Could you perhaps fill us in online?

I'm confused... Is the cover really by WayneR?

I'm confused... Is the cover really by WayneR?

Hugo Solis wrote:

I'm confused... Is the cover really by WayneR?

No, it's Steve Prescott

I'm waiting for my copy to come in a little while, I'm personaly hoping for a new member of the Vancaskerkin family to show it's head.

Just got this today, It is the first pathfinder product that I have purchased. I'm very impressed with the quality, and the information contained inside. Well done Paizo

Just got this today, It is the first pathfinder product that I have purchased. I'm very impressed with the quality, and the information contained inside. Well done Paizo

More needs to be written on the key NPC, I don't see enough there too hook them without just railroading them into accepting the premise of the events of the first adventure.

I just received my delivery and had to leave a post after looking over the mags.

These are top quality, everything from layout, graphics, content, development. Nothing has been spared.

It is well worth the price and finding the companion included was as sweet as a confirmed critical sneak attack. Yeah baby!!!

Thanks again Paizo, you have my continued subscription.

So, whenever you see this episode title, does anyone else start hearing in their head that INXS song 'Guns in the Sky?'

So, whenever you see this episode title, does anyone else start hearing in their head that INXS song 'Guns in the Sky?'

Hi, this is my first post....so be gentle!
This is really a question for Paizo and while it is not really a spoiler I suppose the answer could just about be construed as one, so here goes:
I notice that in the sample characters given for Second Darkness there is no arcane spellcaster and no one with any rogue pick lock/disable trap type abilities. Does this mean that it can be reasonably expected that a party will be able to get all the way through all 6 modules without either of these abilities and it won't cause insurmountable problems for them later on or not. Having partly played through Rise of the Runelords I have been inspired to get Second Darkness to run & was wondering if it was worth prodding the players towards including an arcane and/or trap disabler among themselves or if it won't really matter if they don't.

ABUSE THE NEWBIE!!! j/k! Welcome onboard, Plop Goldfish!

Welcome to the boards Plop Goldfish.

Seltyiel, will be the "iconic" multi-class fighter/wizard.

As for the task of disabling traps and opening locks. You don't really need a rogue for that job. Any character can use those skills, the rogue is the only one who can disable/search a magic trap though.

Welcome to the boards Plop Goldfish.

Seltyiel, will be the "iconic" multi-class fighter/wizard.

As for the task of disabling traps and opening locks. You don't really need a rogue for that job. Any character can use those skills, the rogue is the only one who can disable/search a magic trap though.

Lazaro wrote:

Welcome to the boards Plop Goldfish.

Seltyiel, will be the "iconic" multi-class fighter/wizard.

As for the task of disabling traps and opening locks. You don't really need a rogue for that job. Any character can use those skills, the rogue is the only one who can disable/search a magic trap though.

OK, thanks for that - and thanks for the welcome Sharoth :-)
Looking forward to contributing more to the posts in future, but for now I am gonna have to go as (assuming you are on US time) I am about 5 hours ahead of you over here in the UK.

Hello! I just bought my first PF Adventure Path book (PF 13/"Shadow in the Sky") and PF Companion book (Second Darkness). They both look interesting, and I'm psyched up for PF 14 and all the Void-related stuff which it's supposed to contain.

But I have some questions ...

Will all the extra goodies that have appeared in the PF adventure paths and the companions, such as new monsters, prestige classes, spells, and faith descriptions, re-appear later in other source books?

For example, if I want in-depth write-ups of certain faiths, must I track down all the adventure paths, etc. in which they appear, or can I just wait for PF Chronicles/Gods and Magic?

If I want a stat-block for the goblin snake and reefclaw, must I track down and buy PF Adventure Path numbers 1 and 7, or will a collected bestiary be published at a later point?

Will a Cyphermage prestige class ever be printed?

Hi, this is my first post....so be gentle!
This is really a question for Paizo and while it is not really a spoiler I suppose the answer could just about be construed as one, so here goes:
I notice that in the sample characters given for Second Darkness there is no arcane spellcaster and no one with any rogue pick lock/disable trap type abilities. Does this mean that it can be reasonably expected that a party will be able to get all the way through all 6 modules without either of these abilities and it won't cause insurmountable problems for them later on or not. Having partly played through Rise of the Runelords I have been inspired to get Second Darkness to run & was wondering if it was worth prodding the players towards including an arcane and/or trap disabler among themselves or if it won't really matter if they don't.

That said! One of the goals for an adventure path is to INCLUDE every class, and to avoid situations where you can't proceed along the adventure if you don't have a particular class or skill in your group. We generally try to include multiple solutions to situations (a lock can be unlocked with Open Lock, bashed by damage, or you can steal/take the key to the lock from an NPC elsewhere in the area, for example), which helps to encourage players and reward them for choosing characters THEY want to play, not what the game expects. Sure, there are points where an arcane spellcaster or a lockpicker can help in any Adventure Path... but if there's an encounter that can't be solved without a specific class or skill... that's a failing of adventure design and one we're trying to avoid.

Will all the extra goodies that have appeared in the PF adventure paths and the companions, such as new monsters, prestige classes, spells, and faith descriptions, re-appear later in other source books?

For example, if I want in-depth write-ups of certain faiths, must I track down all the adventure paths, etc. in which they appear, or can I just wait for PF Chronicles/Gods and Magic?

Eventually, once we have large Pathfinder-style writeups for all 20 core deities, we might consider compiling them all into a big book, but that book's still several years away at the least.

If I want a stat-block for the goblin snake and reefclaw, must I track down and buy PF Adventure Path numbers 1 and 7, or will a collected bestiary be published at a later point?

Will a Cyphermage prestige class ever be printed?

CLOSING COMMENT: We've been hesitant about doing TOO much in the way of extra stuff like new spells, new prestige classes, and new crunch (with the exception of monsters), since we're switching to the Pathfinder RPG next August. Each month that goes by between now and then, we're closer and closer to seeing how these rules will look, and as a result it's easier for us to include crunch in our products that will be cross-compatible between 3.5 and PF RPG as a result. Once we switch over to the PF RPG, my suspicion is that we'll be doing a bit more crunch in our products, including the possibility of compilations that pick up some of the more popular things from older books. Particularly as older books go out of print or become obscure, we'll certainly want to keep the more successful parts of the older products readily available. Not EVERYTHING will be reprinted. Players who remember the 1st edition days and how some things "graduated" from modules or Dragon magazine into new hardcovers should find this process familiar.

Thank you, James, for your informative reply.

That said, it's a bit of a disappointment that the longest deity write-ups will be those in the Pathfinder adventure paths. I _had_ hoped that PF Chronicles/Gods and Magic would be bigger, but I also understand that page-counts limit things to a certain extent. Anyway, I'll just have to possess my soul of patience until the "big book" comes out in a few years' time!

The main reason why I asked about the goblin snake and reefclaw in particular is that they appear on the Riddleport Random Encounters table (PF 13, p. 79), along with the notation that their stats can be found in PF 1 and 7, respectively. That seemed like an odd way of doing things.

As for the Cyphermage, I might mimic something like that with a Geometer from the Complete Arcane sourcebook.

Cheers,
Bellona

Lets not forget PDF never goes out of print ; as long as Paizo are selling them you can still get electronic back issues...

Not as nice as dead tree admittedly, but a godsend to those who missed out
(fortunately I have all the pathfinders in print edition, but I missed out on another publishers stuff thats now all out in pdf)

There's commentary about "gray" and about "torture porn" out there with a vocal outcry desperately clinging to "black-and-white" D&D values of censored heroism, where magic is almost scant, and encumbrance rules rule the day.

I feel shame that my only and primary hesitation for not snatching Paizo's very first AP after the fall of Dungeon and Dragon magz was my petty cling to my love of psionics and Paizo's lack of love for it.

To date, as vocal as I am to indoctrinate psionics into AP's, I still revel them despite their love for psionics, and this first chapter of the 2D reminds me of just how deep my initial shame feels for this begins in a dramatic, mature, and exciting beginning to an AP that delivers on its promise of creating fun for those that don't have time for home brew.

This isn't for kiddies, but it can be modified for them. I was inspired to craft a Golden Goblin battle map, and I plan on putting my player through hell in Riddleport. Simpletons beware, for they will be eaten with mustard and ketchup.

I am mostly impressed by 'Shadow in the Sky' but have noticed a few issues which are somewhat irritating.

Okay okay, I admit I'm whinging a lot here, the problems are very easily fixed and certainly nothing to worry about. Otherwise, the adventure itself is well written and thought out. To be honest, this is easily one of the best written adventures I've read in a while (and easily beats a lot of the WoTC products).

Just my 2 cents.

I am mostly impressed by 'Shadow in the Sky' but have noticed a few issues which are somewhat irritating.

** spoiler omitted **

Okay okay, I admit I'm whinging a lot here, the problems are very easily fixed and certainly nothing to worry about. Otherwise, the adventure itself is well written and thought out. To be honest, this is easily one of the best written adventures I've read in a while (and easily beats a lot of the WoTC products).

Just my 2 cents.

Unfortunately, I can't seem to locate that thread and can only view 101 of the 198 threads that it says exists, so I don't know if my computer is messing up or its some kind of boards snafu. Maybe Gary or Vic or someone can retrieve that thread if it's not currently viewable in order to help you (and others who are just now getting to Second Darkness) out.

Hi Neil. Shadow in the Sky had a fair amount of rushing due to the frenzied pace of getting stuff out for Gen Con last summer, and unfortunately it had several of these types of bugs creep in. There are others as well. To address them, I created a "Shadow in the Sky Errata" thread down below in the Second Darkness portion of the message boards. It tackles all of the things you have mentioned and more including some map issues with the Gold Goblin and tunnels beneath.

Unfortunately, I can't seem to locate that thread and can only view 101 of the 198 threads that it says exists, so I don't know if my computer is messing up or its some kind of boards snafu. Maybe Gary or Vic or someone can retrieve that thread if it's not currently viewable in order to help you (and others who are just now getting to Second Darkness) out.

The thread you're talking about is here.

Awesome. Thanks, Vic!

Neil, those should help you some on your questions.

I just rooted through the archives a bit and found a couple other threads that address errata questions. I went ahead and bumped them for easy access.

Thanks for the diligence Mr. Vaughan; no rest for the wicked. ; )

The message board community would do well to link the errata threads for SD, like we have been doing for the earlier APs.

no rest for the wicked.

Le Cacahuète Galerie wrote:

no rest for the wicked.

Heh, heh. I like that. I should use it as a sig line.

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

Le Cacahuète Galerie wrote:

no rest for the wicked.

Heh, heh. I like that. I should use it as a sig line.

As you plaufuly twirl your mustache.

Ah, thanks for the link. I'll be sure to keep my eye on the thread.
Cheers.

Wanted to do an Eberron Conversion discussion on the forums for this adventure path, but was wondering if that would be against forum rules, especially the copyright ones. Please advise.

-Nicole