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Taldor (Pathfinder Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber)

Nice! Even if I wasn't planning on joining the Taldor faction in the Pathfinder Society, I'd still be really looking forward to this. Can't wait!

Andoran (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

It's good that we throw the poor subjects of that scarred and bitter land the occasional bone. Small reminders of their long-past glory days should at least keep them placated.

I mean, if we don't use soft power to keep up their morale, we'd eventually need to invade and liberate the poor bastards before they killed themselves.

You know how it is.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Andrew Turner wrote:
I mean, if we don't use soft power to keep up their morale, we'd eventually need to invade and liberate the poor bastards before they killed themselves.

That is what we will do with your country and Taldor eventually!

Freedom is overrated. People need rules and those who enforce the rules. And only Cheliax can provide both!

Taldor (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

Off course what you peasants don't realise is that our natural superiority will eventually lead to our regaining our preeminent position on the world stage.

Oh and I would like to complain about our language being referred to as common


Ah, the squabbling of children. And the benevolent father watches with a smile, egging them on. As usual, age and experience trump youth and enthusiasm.


Wellard wrote:


Oh and I would like to complain about our language being referred to as common

Ah, my dear Wellard, it is like the old Taldan proverb - "Common sense isn't terribly common." The sophisticated tongue of Taldor is admittedly widespread, no doubt due to its mellifluous tones and insightful syntax, leading to those more primitive, immature nations associating it with their common-as-mud inhabitants.


As an Oppara-trained world-class actor, I must say that this tome is long overdue. Taldor was once an empire not because of its military might, its powerful clergies, or other material trappings. No. It rose to lead the world because it was the center of the arts, the written word, and philosophy. When high culture meets the primitive, the primitive wants to learn and yearns for enlightenment.

Taldor crumbled because our leaders put their trusts in the hands of men led by greed, thirst for power, or military expansion. Instead of working hard at remaining the center of enlightened humanity, Taldor was overcome with sloth and relegated active involvement and control of the land to others under false pretenses of superior philosophy. One's fortune cannot be hoarded under lock and key, but must be put to active use in sponsoring other worthy ventures. To sit and wait and hope that existing assets will grow of their own accord is madness!

So, with every role I take and every script I choose, I take pride in my Taldor, and attempt to show its many, many glorious aspects. The people of Taldor need to be inspired into excellence once more, and cannot afford to accept the second prize anymore. Aroden came, showed us the way, and we now have it in us to replicate his great works, or nay: achieve new heights of glory by ourselves!


Theodric de LaMontagne wrote:


So, with every role I take and every script I choose, I take pride in my Taldor, and attempt to show its many, many glorious aspects. The people of Taldor need to be inspired into excellence once more, and cannot afford to accept the second prize anymore. Aroden came, showed us the way, and we now have it in us to replicate his great works, or nay: achieve new heights of glory by ourselves!

Exactly, Andoran, Chelaxian ... these are merely wayward members of our great family. They are just a bit distant for now, but with the right amount of persuasion ... they'll eventually come back to us.


If those lesser nations could ignore their jealousy before, they'll find it much harder to scoff at our resurging glory now in full color.

*clap clap* Bring me my afternoon tea!

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber)

A question for the Paizo staff: does this Companion include details/info about the noble households or factions within taldorian nobility, and eventually the related rivalries-alliances-secrets?
Also, does it have some geographical infos about provinces/feudal domains other than the usual (excellent) section about cities and notable spots?

I'm currently putting the final details on the general plots of a short campaign of mine, which at high levels will be set in the royal court of Taldor (thanks, Dynasties & Demagogues!) and at low levels is set in the southern border with Qadira, so any "Pathfinder canon" data about it shall be highly useful.

If so, waiting for a couple of months for the Companion is really not a problem, as I still have a boatload of groundwork to cover up (thanks, Toolbox+Ultimate Toolbox!).
If not, it's time to be creative and jut down the details *evil_grin*.

Thanks!


Vendle wrote:

If those lesser nations could ignore their jealousy before, they'll find it much harder to scoff at our resurging glory now in full color.

*clap clap* Bring me my afternoon tea!

HA! Your petty decadence and empty boasts shall be put to test this year, when the TRUE glory of Cheliax shall be unveiled! Beware, as the secrets of our glorious nation will be unleashed on the unsuspecting world! You will quiver in your boots as Hellknights and unspeakable horrors shall tread the land, and sacred rites of Asmodeus shall echo from all the dark places of the world!

Our time is coming... and woe to all who deny our rightful claim to greatness!


Very cool - this one looks really interesting!


Theodric de LaMontagne wrote:
Taldor crumbled because our leaders put their trusts in the hands of men led by greed, thirst for power, or military expansion.

Sounds like someplace else I know.


golem101 wrote:
noble households or factions within taldorian nobility,

Taldan Nobility, thank you, please. You wouldn't very well like it if we referred to your Chelaxian nobility, would you? Taldor very generously provided you devil kissers with a mother tongue, please endeavor not to abuse it.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

I've updated the cover to match the finished product. If you see more gold than blue, clear your browser's image cache.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales, Battles Case Subscriber)

Great cover.

Paizo Employee (Technical Director)

I've also updated the description.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

Nice cover!


I... kinda liked the old cover better.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

The old cover was a painting from Skeletons of Scarwall (PF#11).


cappadocius wrote:
I... kinda liked the old cover better.

No, this one suits you Taldorian dandies better... and, of course, the marvelous companion describing *OUR* mighty empire will have a cover that will completely blow your minds (and drain your souls, naturally)!


We went all-out on the Taldan heraldry; notice that the two knights on the cover have different emblems. For the interior art, there are at least three different combinations of the heraldic emblems, indicating different noble families and such. They care about that sort of thing, and a knowledgeable person can look at another's heraldry and realize, "oh, you serve so-and-so, who is descended from the third son of king-blah-blah-blah; too bad most of that side of the family went mad, and they were left with nothing and have no real chance at ever gaining the throne...."


I SO want this!
Absolutely no doubt about it.

Taldor (Pathfinder Superscriber)

Not long now!

I normally wait for the hard copy to arrive before reading anything beyond the contents page, but I'm not sure I'll be able to restrain myself this time.


I have a question on a Religion trait...

Divine Warrior (Iomedae):
fluff removed for copyright sake
Your divine spells gain a +1 trait bonus to melee
weapon damage.

How does this work? Spells gaining a bonus to weapon dmg?


Um, isn't that obvious?

;)

First, take a pen and cross out the words "melee weapon" from that sentence.
Second, read the sentence again.
Third, wag a finger at Sean for stealing too much of Jason's beer and letting that happen.


While you squabble amongst yourselves we are finding ways to poke through your defences. Be weary of the stalker of the desert

Cheliax (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Phoenix1990 wrote:
While you squabble amongst yourselves we are finding ways to poke through your defences. Be weary of the stalker of the desert

Go on and stalk the desert while we harvest this overripe fruit in Amsodeus' name!

Taldor (Pathfinder Superscriber)

Tharen the Damned wrote:
Phoenix1990 wrote:
While you squabble amongst yourselves we are finding ways to poke through your defences. Be weary of the stalker of the desert
Go on and stalk the desert while we harvest this overripe fruit in Amsodeus' name!

The fruit may be rotting, but that is a necessary step for the seeds of a new age of glory to take root!

It's typical of the young and naive Chelish to mistake a temporary wane in power for the apocalypse. It was after all, their gross overreaction to Aroden's death that allowed Asmodeus to sink his talons into that wayward colony in the first place.


Calixymenthillian wrote:
Tharen the Damned wrote:
Phoenix1990 wrote:
While you squabble amongst yourselves we are finding ways to poke through your defences. Be weary of the stalker of the desert
Go on and stalk the desert while we harvest this overripe fruit in Amsodeus' name!

The fruit may be rotting, but that is a necessary step for the seeds of a new age of glory to take root!

It's typical of the young and naive Chelish to mistake a temporary wane in power for the apocalypse. It was after all, their gross overreaction to Aroden's death that allowed Asmodeus to sink his talons into that wayward colony in the first place.

*clap!*


Sean K Reynolds wrote:

Um, isn't that obvious?

;)

First, take a pen and cross out the words "melee weapon" from that sentence.
Second, read the sentence again.
Third, wag a finger at Sean for stealing too much of Jason's beer and letting that happen.

Thanks for the clarification. At first, I thought the bonus only applied to Holy Sword, Spiritual Weapon and similar spells.

Cheliax (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

OMG!!!!!!! Christophe Swal must have done his Sarenrae holy symbol research on the Pathfinder Wiki....... O_o... Check Sarenraes holy symbol cape of the guy on the back cover!!! :D

Spoiler:
I made that one!!!


Um...

Is the Lion Blade prestige written for 3.5 or for some version of Pathfinder I'm unaware of? Its skill block looks more 3rd edition than pathfinder.

Was this intended or just something that slipped by?

Qadira (Pathfinder Superscriber)

Sighter wrote:

Um...

Is the Lion Blade prestige written for 3.5 or for some version of Pathfinder I'm unaware of? Its skill block looks more 3rd edition than pathfinder.

Was this intended or just something that slipped by?

Everything will be in 3.5 until the Pathfinder rules are released at GenCon in august.

It has been said the the final version of the rules will be closer to 3.5 than to the beta, so it shouldn't be very hard at all to convert.


David Wickham wrote:
Sighter wrote:

Um...

Is the Lion Blade prestige written for 3.5 or for some version of Pathfinder I'm unaware of? Its skill block looks more 3rd edition than pathfinder.

Was this intended or just something that slipped by?

Everything will be in 3.5 until the Pathfinder rules are released at GenCon in august.

It has been said the the final version of the rules will be closer to 3.5 than to the beta, so it shouldn't be very hard at all to convert.

Ah. Thank you good sir! I did not know that.

Yes, its very easy to convert, considering that its just some skill things. I just figured it was better to ask and know, and knowing is half the battle you know.

Osirion (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Companion Subscriber)

Have the pdf and am really happy with this product on a skim through. Art is fantastic. Oppara looks incredible (and a map!!) and like the 1300s-1400s Byzantine feel (even with Northman guard no less)...

Thanks for this work.

(Pathfinder Superscriber; GameMastery Cards Subscriber)

Silly detail-obsessive question:
in the Companions related to one of the PFS factions (Osirion, Taldor and the upcoming Qadira, Cheliax and Andoran), why do some of the covers include the nation's coat of arms in the art while others don't?

Osirion doesn't (maybe because it was the 1st one)
Taldor does
If the covers are final, Qadira won't, Cheliax will and Andoran won't.

Any technical or practical reasons? Having the coats for the whole series seemed sleek and cool!


Andreas Skye wrote:

Silly detail-obsessive question:

in the Companions related to one of the PFS factions (Osirion, Taldor and the upcoming Qadira, Cheliax and Andoran), why do some of the covers include the nation's coat of arms in the art while others don't?

Osirion doesn't (maybe because it was the 1st one)
Taldor does
If the covers are final, Qadira won't, Cheliax will and Andoran won't.

Any technical or practical reasons? Having the coats for the whole series seemed sleek and cool!

Quadira is a far-flung satrapi of the Padishah Empire of Kelesh. Its coat of arms is as a child's scrawl before the awesome designs of the Empire!


This is going on my "want" list.


Andreas Skye wrote:

Silly detail-obsessive question:

in the Companions related to one of the PFS factions (Osirion, Taldor and the upcoming Qadira, Cheliax and Andoran), why do some of the covers include the nation's coat of arms in the art while others don't?

Osirion doesn't (maybe because it was the 1st one)
Taldor does
If the covers are final, Qadira won't, Cheliax will and Andoran won't.

The covers you see on upcoming products are almost always placeholders. The final cover usually isn't done until a couple weeks before the product is finished.

I just checked, and the actual Qadira cover in the file we sent to the printer does have the country flag on it.


cappadocius wrote:
Ah, the squabbling of children. And the benevolent father watches with a smile, egging them on. As usual, age and experience trump youth and enthusiasm.

Methinks that was Age and Treachery...

Taldor (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion Subscriber)

Ah Byzantium...a watchword for backstabbing, treachery and doing your equals and betters down. I love it...throw in some gratutitous religious persecution a seething underclass too disorganised to raise a revolt without outside prompting and a superiority complex worthy of Justinian himself and you have a powderkeg waiting to explode.

I still think its Golarions version of Aquilonia though.


I just got this the other day. It defintely has all sorts of possibilities, especially with the Lion Blade PrC. Plus, the idea of elephant cavalry is rather cool.


Tharen the Damned wrote:
Phoenix1990 wrote:
While you squabble amongst yourselves we are finding ways to poke through your defences. Be weary of the stalker of the desert
Go on and stalk the desert while we harvest this overripe fruit in Amsodeus' name!

Well, as a Chelish thee should know about dominions rotten to the core. At least Taldor has a small chance to redeem itself. Indeed, my Taldan "friends" would be wise to except responsibility for that Devil-worshipping mess, and maybe Osirion might assist Taldor in keeping Qadira, whose power we've both broken, permanently stuffed back into its lamps and bottles...

PS: the Taldor Companion was a very informative reading! I enjoy its strong medieval-european-flavoured background and the potential politics.


Zeugma wrote:
Andreas Skye wrote:

Silly detail-obsessive question:

in the Companions related to one of the PFS factions (Osirion, Taldor and the upcoming Qadira, Cheliax and Andoran), why do some of the covers include the nation's coat of arms in the art while others don't?

Osirion doesn't (maybe because it was the 1st one)
Taldor does
If the covers are final, Qadira won't, Cheliax will and Andoran won't.

Any technical or practical reasons? Having the coats for the whole series seemed sleek and cool!

Quadira is a far-flung satrapi of the Padishah Empire of Kelesh. Its coat of arms is as a child's scrawl before the awesome designs of the Empire!

BAH! If you want to talk about impressive heraldry, there's nothing on Golarion that compares to our majestic Empire's glorious, awe-inspiring, feared and immortal colors flying above a contingent of proud Chelaxian forces! Why, my eyes moisten at the mere thought of such a sight!


Asgetrion wrote:


BAH! If you want to talk about impressive heraldry, there's nothing on Golarion that compares to our majestic Empire's glorious, awe-inspiring, feared and immortal colors flying above a contingent of proud Chelaxian forces! Why, my eyes moisten at the mere thought of such a sight!

Well, all that smoke and brimstone from Cheliax would make anyone's eyes water!

;-)

(Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber)

Here's a quick legend for the numbers listed on the map of Oppara on p. 15. The information is incorporated into the location descriptions, but I feel it's useful to have it grouped for easy reference.
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.
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Famous Locations in Oppara
1. The Senate (p. 20)
2. The Imperial Palace (p. 19)
3. Basilica of the Last Man (p. 19)
4. Seven Towers (p. 18)
5. Statue Garden of Porthmos (p. 20)
6. The Shining Obelisk (p. 20)
7. Memorial Arch of Prince Jalrune (p. 20)
8. The Serpent Column (p. 20)
9. White Hall (p. 20)
10. Oppara Arena (p. 20)
11. Rhapsodic Colege (p. 20)
12. Grand Bridge of the Empire (p. 19)
13. Kitharodian Academy (p. 20)
14. Lionsgate (p. 17)
15. Crownsgate (p. 17)
16. Central Canal (p. 18)
17. Central Canal (p. 18)
18. Canal Row (p. 17)

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

I know this is an older product, and the new campaign setting guide's coming out soon, but I recently picked this up and as I don't really have a good eye for mechanics and such I was wondering if there are any suggested mechanical adjustments (other than the obvious dropping of XP costs for creating the magic items listed)?


Pricing magic items didn't significantly change from 3.5 to PFRPG.

(Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber)

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Pricing magic items didn't significantly change from 3.5 to PFRPG.

I meant more along the lines of 'crafting costs' (since in Pathfinder you don't have to pay XP to craft magic items any more). But what I mean is that I'm just wondering if the feats and prestige class in the supplement need any sort of drastic adjustment aside from some tweaking to accommodate skill changes.

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